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Buffy Sainte-Marie's claims of being adopted through the Sixties Scoop came into question during the now-viral CBC investigation into her supposed Indigenous ancestry.
The news hit hard for survivors who once found kinship through the shared experience.
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@JD-cd5sq
@JD-cd5sq 8 месяцев назад
Her state of Massachusetts, birth certificate is on her Wikipedia page. It is a sequential birth certificate, and is signed by the doctor present at her birth. Her relatives have been refuting her false claims of being indigenous for years. If she really wants to prove her claims of indigenous ancestry she would take a DNA test.
@robertgaunt59
@robertgaunt59 8 месяцев назад
She won’t do it ..I can’t tell you now ..she will retreat back into her mansion and wealth ..the biggest story to break in Canada for a while … The letters she sent shows what kind of person she really is ..fame and money will make people do some delusional things …what a way to go out ..I think her career and reputation won’t survive this ..but again her net worth is over ten million dollars ..she will be ok …but her people may not fair so well ..sorry are they her people anymore…the real question is do the ends justify the means ?
@ValleyoftheRogue
@ValleyoftheRogue 8 месяцев назад
She can't because her sister already did and the sister and her son are blood relatives. Game, set, match. Her family is European. The end.
@robertgaunt59
@robertgaunt59 8 месяцев назад
Will never do it .. she will keep denying and fade away from public view .. just watch
@bevmacdonald9008
@bevmacdonald9008 8 месяцев назад
Refuting? Not quite. Btw, Buffy never claimed to have been part of the 60s Scoop. She always said she was playing guitar around Greenwich Village, Soho, etc.. The issue of her indigenous identity was settled a few decades ago. She told her birth story according to what she knew from the parents that had raised her. There is 40+ years of history published that shows what she said and tells the history of how events unfolded that led to the Piapot Tribe claiming her. This Fifth Estate episode is a shameful substitute for journalism, imho, and airing it was either incredibly irresponsible or incredibly ignorant given the incriminating tone of it. They should have recognized that they were into the territory of violating her mother's and father's privacy poking into their intimate affairs, as well as likely creating a racially charged national rift. The shame belongs to CBC, not Buffy.
@deneenhill5913
@deneenhill5913 8 месяцев назад
@@robertgaunt59 all the nations she claimed to be should sue her for defamation or misappropriation and take every dime she made
@DarkstOfficial
@DarkstOfficial 8 месяцев назад
as an First Nations Artist, This is completely wrong, she deserves to be stripped of everything, who cares who adopted her.
@Hypatiaization
@Hypatiaization 6 месяцев назад
No one adopted her. She’s white Italian. Period
@perlindell1305
@perlindell1305 6 месяцев назад
​@@Hypatiaization, except that there are no native Italian looking like her.
@BasedRanger
@BasedRanger 4 месяца назад
​@@Hypatiaization I believe OP is speaking about her being adopted, as an already famous adult, by the Piapot tribe.
@user-nn3lw1pl7e
@user-nn3lw1pl7e 3 месяца назад
Lack of belonging impacts the prefrontal cortex which drives our moral and ethical behaviour. now you have responsability
@charlesbeardsmug1553
@charlesbeardsmug1553 8 месяцев назад
Just because the truth hurts, doesn't make it wrong. I'm sick of living in a post-truth world where facts are 'offensive.'
@Flat10squirrel
@Flat10squirrel 8 месяцев назад
when lies become truths. Trudough
@Michelle-gj7em
@Michelle-gj7em 8 месяцев назад
@@Flat10squirreltru-d’oh!
@MegaDonzee
@MegaDonzee 8 месяцев назад
It's not the truth that hurts but rather the shattering of illusion. Still hurts though.
@clevelandplonsey7480
@clevelandplonsey7480 8 месяцев назад
What did the COMMUNITY want? Time to cover it up and shield Buffy?
@UnPluggingThePlayer
@UnPluggingThePlayer 8 месяцев назад
​@Flat10squirrel When lies becomes truths... World Health Org... World Economic Forum... CDC... NIH... etc. Etc.
@Decedo
@Decedo 8 месяцев назад
A paternal DNA would clear this up. The fact that she hasn’t done this is very telling.
@TheSuspira666
@TheSuspira666 8 месяцев назад
Exactly, just do the dna test and it will all be settled
@sr2291
@sr2291 8 месяцев назад
An Ancestry DNA test would show who the grandparents are on each side. A 23andme test probably has more NA markers than Ancestry but it would give her MTDNA Haplogroup and also show who her close family members are.
@aldosigmann419
@aldosigmann419 8 месяцев назад
It has already been done by a relative and she is related - impossible if she were 'adopted'.
@lauranapl1982
@lauranapl1982 8 месяцев назад
which testing company was this dna test done with?@@aldosigmann419
@UnPluggingThePlayer
@UnPluggingThePlayer 8 месяцев назад
​@@aldosigmann419 ah yes, in another recent aptn upload Buffy claimed she and her sister were part of the scoop. She claimed the Piapot found her sister first and then her. That means both should have the same Cree DNA, and not Italian DNA. A simole test.
@jayc4562
@jayc4562 8 месяцев назад
As an indigenous person I do not understand why any person would defend Buffy's lies. I suspect that more people in Canada knew the truth but they didn''t want to rock the boat against a celebrity.
@francessimmonds5784
@francessimmonds5784 7 месяцев назад
The people defending her are racist, as is she. They don’t care about indigenous peoples. This is the first I’ve heard of pretendians, and I find it sickening. If someone can’t prove they’re native they should have to do a dna test, and there should be serious consequences to lying. That she’s got rich by claiming to be Native American is terrible, no one should defend that.
@jinglebell9424
@jinglebell9424 7 месяцев назад
I agree. She should have all her life awards achieved through deception revoked. She is a talented person who was respectful to the native community, but should have been honest about her life.
@digital6string1
@digital6string1 7 месяцев назад
I'd say she was totally disrespectful to native comunities all over North America.@@jinglebell9424
@Hypatiaization
@Hypatiaization 6 месяцев назад
I hope that more like you will speak out against her lies!
@jenniferhampton5171
@jenniferhampton5171 4 месяца назад
She is a woman full of love for her indigenous heritage. She is a loving woman and beautiful artist. Why try to destroy her?
@marycahill546
@marycahill546 8 месяцев назад
The 60s scoop started in 1951. Buffy St Marie was born in 1941. There is no birth document anywhere in Canada, or indeed any person stepping up in Canada to say that Buffy was born in Canada. She is not Canadian, does not belong to any band, and she has to pay full taxes on goods like any other White person. Neither do any adoption documents exist. Being informally adopted by a family later in life does not change her birth. Let's face it, some people simply don't want to accept the facts in this case. There is a valid birth certificate for Buffy in Stoneham Mass. giving her date and place of birth and St. Marie parents' names. It is valid. Buffy St. Marie is an American citizen based on that document. Further her St. Marie relatives who she grew up with say she is a St. Marie, and they never heard anything about her being adopted. Her uncle and brother did go to the press to try to challenge the lie and tell the truth, but she silenced her brother with threats of legal action. Buffy's Indigenous heritage is entirely her own creation. It's time to accept that and move on. In future for any award, scholarship, academic or other job, based on race, people will have to be properly vetted before taking advantage of alleged Indigenous background. There are too many PretendIndians around these days benefitting from grants etc. They often speak for Indigenous people when they have no right to do so, neither by birth nor by growing up on a Reserve.
@christianb8228
@christianb8228 8 месяцев назад
Stop mentioning status damn it my wife is indigenous and doesn’t have a status card look up enfranchisement and you will understand why…there are people walking around with status who aren’t even indigenous so please stop it a status card doesn’t mean 💩
@jonquiogue6755
@jonquiogue6755 8 месяцев назад
Sorry but u not sorry, u sound very racist... Its not only White people that live in Canada and pay taxes... Born and raised in Winnipeg, Manitoba in 1975 and I pay my fuukin taxes and Im a Canadian Citizen and my culture is Filipino.. For u to say that " she has to pay full taxes on goods like any other White person" ... that sounds so ignorant... if ur Canadian u should know by now how diverse we are and not racist like the states...
@ValleyoftheRogue
@ValleyoftheRogue 8 месяцев назад
She made it all up. She didn't want anybody to check the truth, so she made up a lie-purely for monetary reasons-about having no birth certificate. Virtually EVERYBODY had birth certificates issued by 1941 in the US. The scandal is that she got away with this fraud for decades and still won't own up to it.
@joeluisishere
@joeluisishere 8 месяцев назад
Thanks
@user-sc3ph4qd5f
@user-sc3ph4qd5f 8 месяцев назад
Hear, hear! Thank you.
@Benesii
@Benesii 8 месяцев назад
BS. she made a mockery of our ( not her) trauma. She should be apologizing to all of us for dressing up in both dress, song and history.
@swainsongable
@swainsongable 8 месяцев назад
Yes, this is the crux of the issue.
@HuemorDGAP
@HuemorDGAP 8 месяцев назад
Narcs never apologise, she will swear until her dying day that her mother cheated and she is half (insert Native Tribe here)
@Ozworldz
@Ozworldz 8 месяцев назад
Hear hear.
@roen6800
@roen6800 8 месяцев назад
Why does anyone need to be consulted when investigating fraudulent claims to an Indigenous identity? There is a name for people like Buffy Sainte Marie, "Pretendians."
@ValleyoftheRogue
@ValleyoftheRogue 8 месяцев назад
Right. Her real background is unassailable. Congratulations to the Fifth Estate for digging in and fact checking to the eyeballs the TRUTH BSM LIED about her origins.
@deneenhill5913
@deneenhill5913 8 месяцев назад
Buffy doesn’t have to colour her skin and hair anymore
@deneenhill5913
@deneenhill5913 8 месяцев назад
I’m indigenous and agree, thank the investigators!! Someone on our side for a change. Huffy wasn’t on our side, she was a predator
@bevmacdonald9008
@bevmacdonald9008 8 месяцев назад
Buffy's birth story was told to her by her parents. She did not make it up. She has been a public figure for at least 50 years. Her indigenous identity was challenged during the rise of the racist Reform Party and the family connection was found in the Piapot Tribe, they formally claimed her, settling the matter. At this point, the circumstances of her conception is nobody's business, and with this malicious presentation of this lone fact of the birth certificate, the CBC has only disclosed a wife's secret indiscretion Not any fraudulent activity by Buffy. Buffy's told her adoption story the way she had been told it as a girl.
@roen6800
@roen6800 8 месяцев назад
@@bevmacdonald9008 First off, it isn't racist to challenge one's supposed Indigenous identity. Second, the statement that she was apparently taken in by an Indigenous family is entirely moot because she has stated consistently that she has Indigenous ancestry. Her real family is of American-Italian origin. She lied by saying that her real family was her adopted family, and then when her biological brother had the temerity to reveal the truth, she threatened him with a law suit, and accused him of molesting her. I'm not saying it didn't happen but she doesn't have a very good track record with the truth. She then lied that she was Algonquin. She lied that she was Mi'kmaq. Then all of a sudden she's Cree through adoption? I mean which one is it, Buffy Sainte-Marie? All of these cannot be true at the same time, lest we dispose with simple laws of logic like the Law of Non-Contradiction.
@franyafranya
@franyafranya 8 месяцев назад
The handwritten letter she sent her brother years ago, threatening to claim that he molested her as a child if he continued to tell people of her real origin, which accompanied a less spiteful but nonetheless intimidating letter from her fancy California lawyers, says it all. Why would she threaten her brother if what he said wasn't true?
@LikwidSnake
@LikwidSnake 8 месяцев назад
Agreed, that one was unforgiveable. & whoever this person is being interviewed and questioning the 60s scoop obviously didn't watch the report on how "Buffy" was born in 1941 and not during the 60s scoop.
@beverleyjohnstone2045
@beverleyjohnstone2045 8 месяцев назад
People who lie will go to great lengths to cover their lies especially when it affects their career
@marshabailey1121
@marshabailey1121 8 месяцев назад
Precisely
@ellen4956
@ellen4956 8 месяцев назад
Did you read the letter? What it actually said was that she would speak out about what he did to her. He knew what he did. Her brother was trying to wreck her career because he no longer had control of her. He went to great lengths to say publicly that "she is caucasian, from caucasian parents". Why was he so threatened by her? Because he is racist.
@marshabailey1121
@marshabailey1121 8 месяцев назад
@@ellen4956 I read the letter. If i was true, then why didn't he destroy it rather than leave it to be found by his daughter? If he was guilty he'd have destroyed the letter and never told his parents. She was blackmailing him because he was telling the truth about her,American, not an Indigenous Canadian. This is another facile lie she concocted to save her butt.
@steverogers2635
@steverogers2635 7 месяцев назад
They're not allegations, they're stone cold facts. It's astounding she intimidated people her whole professional life into keeping her lie. And she was born 10 years before the scoop.
@heidihinter4961
@heidihinter4961 8 месяцев назад
No indigenous experts consulted? Did this woman not watch the documentary?
@two-sense
@two-sense 8 месяцев назад
Translated: "I wasn't consulted. Attention government, just let me know where to send my fee schedule."
@jimmcconnell7328
@jimmcconnell7328 7 месяцев назад
I don’t get her statement either. Wasn’t it an indigenous woman who began to research into Buffys background?
@fanofthedog
@fanofthedog 8 месяцев назад
These folks should be angry at Buffy and not the truth tellers. Buffy is the one that owes the apology ESPECIALLY to the people who to endure the pain of having this all brought up all over again
@adelaidebeatricelaing4498
@adelaidebeatricelaing4498 8 месяцев назад
Could we just spare a thought for her parents, especially her mother who had to endure silently all these years? They were the original people to suffer. To love, support and raise a child and then be publicly rejected is sad and cruel. Buffy Sainte-Marie is the person to blame. Truth telling is important no matter who is telling it.
@jenniferhampton5171
@jenniferhampton5171 4 месяца назад
Her indigenous family love her. I feel she is deeply connected to and committed to her native heritage. She's contributed so much with a loving heart. Why try to destroy her.
@texasrefugee7888
@texasrefugee7888 8 месяцев назад
A DNA profile is needed I cant believe she attacked, disowned her family.
@sounsure9108
@sounsure9108 8 месяцев назад
Are they that specific now my understanding was some indigenous peoples show as eat Asia and I knew one grandma who test 9 percent but was born a band member
@ValleyoftheRogue
@ValleyoftheRogue 8 месяцев назад
No, it isn't needed at all. Her sister already did the work. Her sister looks just like her, and she is European origin through and through. Both sisters were delivered by the same doctor. There is a paper trail a mile long proving beyond all doubt Buffy's real origins. There is nothing more to prove.
@ValleyoftheRogue
@ValleyoftheRogue 8 месяцев назад
Europeans also have angular features. Stop going by appearances alone.
@BlackGuardXIII
@BlackGuardXIII 8 месяцев назад
Her Massachusetts birth certificate is solid proof of where, when, and to whom she was born. The doctor who delivered her signed it.
@raymondpierotti8414
@raymondpierotti8414 8 месяцев назад
Then why are you doing the same thing you are accusing others of, Valley of the Rogue bot@@ValleyoftheRogue
@O.S.R.C.
@O.S.R.C. 8 месяцев назад
The Truth portion of Truth and Reconciliation is a bitter pill for some. You can't handpick the truths you want to be true, and you cannot NOT report on it.
@timothyj1966
@timothyj1966 8 месяцев назад
TRUTH & RECONCILIATION $CAM Nationwide... just means... GIVE U$ MORE GENERATIONAL WELFARE $$$$
@lordbrennanofsealand5772
@lordbrennanofsealand5772 8 месяцев назад
Exactly.
@brianbagnall3029
@brianbagnall3029 8 месяцев назад
Me thinks they aren't interested in truth at all.
@O.S.R.C.
@O.S.R.C. 8 месяцев назад
​@@brianbagnall3029 Nope., they're not. Money. It's always about money. And, no matter what the concession is, there's always a hand out looking for more...
@bradpaul8576
@bradpaul8576 8 месяцев назад
Precisely.
@Lemmingadventures
@Lemmingadventures 8 месяцев назад
So claiming to be indigenous seems to have given her a life of "privilege".
@sr2291
@sr2291 8 месяцев назад
Ironic huh.
@coolcreamykiwi
@coolcreamykiwi 8 месяцев назад
Truth journalism does not need permission or editing from groups with a bias, that would be what folks describe as insane
@kristinegallagher6437
@kristinegallagher6437 8 месяцев назад
I don't understand why the spokeswoman feels she and her community needed to be "consulted" about the Buffy situation. The story was about Buffy's grift, not the scoop survivors. They should be happy that a liar was unmasked. She was just grifting off y'all.
@Blindlight736
@Blindlight736 7 месяцев назад
fake publicity is better than no publicity?
@rebeccac4751
@rebeccac4751 8 месяцев назад
The show did talk about adoption, her birth certificate included 2 sheets with matching numbers and the signature of an attending doctor (present only during live birth), therefore she was not adopted, she had a live birth. Plus, she was born in the 40’s, before the scoop. A DNA test would solve it, and her refusing to do so, will also solve it 🤷🏻‍♀️ And….. a First Nations person is the person who brought her concerns about Buffy to the media.
@bevmacdonald9008
@bevmacdonald9008 8 месяцев назад
Buffy did not claim to have been taken from her family in the 1960s. People need to stop saying she did. Buffy was working on her music career in New York, and her history through the 60s, 70s and onward is well documented. There are many sources of reference. The harms from the horrible treatment of the Indigenous people ripple through the community through relationships and resonate through time; we are all hurt by it. But Buffy does not deserve to be diminished for having been misled by her parents, as this shameful CBC hit piece is trying to do
@nickcarroll5034
@nickcarroll5034 8 месяцев назад
@@bevmacdonald9008 She wasn't misled by anyone. It was all an act. You have to be delusional to write the kind of crap you do.
@rebeccac4751
@rebeccac4751 8 месяцев назад
@@bevmacdonald9008 Buffy was not “misled”, she lied about who she was, plain and simple. It was not a “hit piece” either, it was factual.
@bevmacdonald9008
@bevmacdonald9008 8 месяцев назад
@@rebeccac4751 she did not lie. Albert and Winifred had more than half a century of opportunity to contradict her and set the record straight. The birth certificate did not include a paternity test. Buffy told the origin story she was told by Winifred. There is ZERO evidence suggesting she had been told anything different than what she said. She did not claim to be taken and adopted in the 60s , she has always acknowledged she was busking around Greenwich Village. This info is easily found in multiple sources published over the decades with a simple Google search . The Piapot Nation established her connection and formally claimed her
@bevmacdonald9008
@bevmacdonald9008 8 месяцев назад
@@rebeccac4751 the only "fact" is the birth certificate, which as I stated has no paternity test, the rest is hearsay, gossip, innuendo, and incriminations. The issue of her indigenous lineage was investigated and settled by the Piapot First Nation decades ago. This "news" only muddied the issue, casts dispersion upon a good person, and stimulates racially charged arguments and calls for her public humiliation. That is why I call it a hit piece
@reejan8109
@reejan8109 8 месяцев назад
Does the lady from Victoria not know what happens to birth certificates when a child is adopted? The original birth certificate is filed away/sealed and an amended birth certificate is issued. The amended birth certificate has the adoptive parents names BECAUSE those people are now legally the child's parents. The original b/c still exists and that's how adoptees are finding their birth parents (well, the records and dna testing) in places where the records have been opened (all of Canada, I believe). In the 1940's crossing the border between Canada and the US was recorded and that data base is available on Ancestry - btw, no record of the Santamaria/ Sainte Marie / St. Marie family crossing the border. Continually saying records were destroyed, records don't exist, etc doesn't negate the fact that a birth certificate exists in Stoneham, Massachusetts. It was Buffy herself who brought up the '60's Scoop, although she called it the Big Scoop; it's Buffy herself who has said she has no birth certificate; it's Buffy herself who claims records are sealed (nope, they're not). As far as the Piapot community not being given a "heads up" - why didn't Buffy give them the heads up? She certainly knew it was happening (or she wouldn't have released her statement the day before, would she?). Why does the CBC owe anyone an apology for investigating this issue? If Buffy is not who she claims to be, be angry with her. Maybe feel some empathy for the family & community (Italian) she continues to deny. It's not okay to say she's been claimed therefore it's all good, move on, drop it etc without addressing that for one community to gain a member, another community lost one.
@StevenOsburnHollywood
@StevenOsburnHollywood 8 месяцев назад
Yes, and when adoptive parents who are Native tribal members get the new birth certificate they enroll their adopted white kids ( or whatever race they are) into the tribe. No way to know that’s an amended birth certificate.
@franyafranya
@franyafranya 8 месяцев назад
Not true @@StevenOsburnHollywood, it is not an amended birth certificate. The hospital, the time of birth, etc. all details are there and verified. It was all made very clear on the Fifth Estate. In addition, she signed her own marriage certificate stating she was of white extraction and giving her birthplace as Stoneham Mass.
@gregmatthews6544
@gregmatthews6544 8 месяцев назад
Same thing happened to me. Great comment on part. It is the bane of this modern technology age. Someone sees something on mass media and resides to believe it and further comments, and gets on a bandwagon about vilifing the person the original story was about, all of this without taking time to do proper research into the facts.
@theresenydahl9531
@theresenydahl9531 8 месяцев назад
I agree a 100% with you.
@ValleyoftheRogue
@ValleyoftheRogue 8 месяцев назад
Stop making excuses for a FRAUD. The birth certificate is original and in sequential order. There was NO adoption, understand, EVER. Her sister is her BLOOD relative proven by DNA.
@KStewart-th4sk
@KStewart-th4sk 8 месяцев назад
Independent DNA testing is the only course to clear her now. The scoop started in 1951, "Buffy" would have been about 10 years of age. The Santamaria family showed video's of "Buffy" and she appeared a lot younger than 10. What about her allegations and threats against her own brother to keep quiet?!! You make it sound like CBC's Fifth Estate consulted no one other than those who agree with your stance. That is not true either. There was an Aboriginal Professor and a Metis lawyer on CBC's Fifth Estate talking about Pretendians. From what i saw on the program it is a lot more than just "allegations" at this point. If she was born in Saskatchewan, why are there no records to be found? As the show claimed, she has made multiple statements over the years that don't seem to be backed up with a shred of evidence or truth for that matter. She has claimed not having a Birth Certificate, yet they had no problem getting hers from the Town of Stoneham, Massachusetts---Beverley Jean Santamaria who somehow transformed herself into Buffy Sainte-Marie!!! Change of name also has to be done legally. What about that?! Seems to me an APTN Investigates is in order.
@liddlemountain7245
@liddlemountain7245 8 месяцев назад
I know several people who were collecting information for this, it even saya in the expose that the guy who got her birth certificate is an adoptee. There were of course many people in the making of this and they certainly were not all white. Hello, Kim Tallbear has been on this all along. People are ridiculous.
@theresenydahl9531
@theresenydahl9531 8 месяцев назад
Exactly! And did you see the photograph of her elderly white haired Italian mother in that Fifth state reportage - Beverly aka Buffy looks exactly like her, in fact I thought it was her.
@DrLeroyArch
@DrLeroyArch 8 месяцев назад
The family name was changed, presumably legally. Even if it wasn't people are allowed to use stage names.
@icanpreptoo6673
@icanpreptoo6673 8 месяцев назад
This is the problem with activist organizations as a whole, they are more interested in feelings than facts which skews all the data. We need to seek and honor Truth in order to have Reconciliation. Buffy let us down. What I cannot get passed is the fact this birth certificate was so easily found. Did she ever really search for it at all or was she content just rolling with the story as concocted? And just because she is accepted as a member of community does not make her indigenous, this again skews the data.
@clevelandplonsey7480
@clevelandplonsey7480 8 месяцев назад
She had to have had access to a birth certificate in order to get a marriage certificate. City Clerk 101.
@raymondpierotti8414
@raymondpierotti8414 8 месяцев назад
I believe you meant "past," rather than passed. Please think before you post.
@meincotu
@meincotu 7 месяцев назад
Many cases of fraud go unreported because the victims are too embarrassed to admit they were conned. Denial isn't the answer.
@raymondpierotti8414
@raymondpierotti8414 7 месяцев назад
Who could possibly be embarrassed by this, other than BSM. You are all accepting the word of a bunch of liars, but i guess that is now that American way. The reporter on the story claims to be Indigenous, I believe BSM more than I believe him as a First Nations person. The reporter he relies on is a mistake prone clown who completely blew the attack she aimed at Sasheen Littlefeather, because she was lazy and careless. Who are what is meincotu? Is this a real person?@@meincotu
@BasedRanger
@BasedRanger 4 месяца назад
Well said.
@firstlady3674
@firstlady3674 8 месяцев назад
To portray herself as Indigenous all these years, she deserves an Oscar!!
@firstlady3674
@firstlady3674 8 месяцев назад
@@orlandominichiello 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@1954F
@1954F 8 месяцев назад
So egregious!
@martytrueblood5902
@martytrueblood5902 8 месяцев назад
Grey Owl the new generation
@EthantotheMax
@EthantotheMax 8 месяцев назад
And let her take away more awards from more deserving people? Nah she's got one already.
@princesskenny5270
@princesskenny5270 8 месяцев назад
Savage!!!
@JessJArt
@JessJArt 8 месяцев назад
The reality of her lies is a horrible thing to discover. Specifically the claim of being caught up in the Sixties Scoop is very painful for me. I was taken from my family due to a lie of abuse against my father. Because of the irrational and illegal behaviours of a social worker who didn't care to investigate properly, motivated by a furor to remove a child from a home where abuse was being claimed I was taken and put in foster care. My parents had to fight so hard to get me back and they were the lucky ones. I was a lucky one. I did go home but the damage was done. It damaged my entire family. I was taken and I am not Indigenous. So many Indigenous children had been removed from their families and will never return and the ones that were returned are damaged and changed forever in ways even I cannot comprehend. I am shocked and saddened and my heart as always goes out to Indigenous People who are healing from the wounds inflicted against them.
@kellieturner404
@kellieturner404 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing your story, I think of people like you and your family - genuine and beautiful despite horrid trauma. In the face of your, and so many others similar Native/Social Worker experiences, it's so cringey to listen to her giggle and claim to not know her birthday etc...
@JessJArt
@JessJArt 8 месяцев назад
@@kellieturner404 Thank you Kelly, I really appreciate it. I do find it so uncomfortable to hear her say she doesn't know who she is from. I'm really hurting for the Italian community who have been cheated out of the accomplishments she earned that would have been attributed to her Italian/American heritage and I am heart broken for her brother if those allegations are not true.
@triciat2855
@triciat2855 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing your story. I was born into foster care in the late 60s, and although I am not Indigenous, I can empathize deeply with survivors of the 60s scoop because I also grew up without knowing who I was, where my ancestors were from, as well as always having a profound sense of abandonment and loss. It hurts to listen to someone lie, and claim to have lived a similar story (and laugh about not knowing their birthday); it verges on cruelty. I share your shock and sadness. I don't know how someone could lie about something like that.
@bevmacdonald9008
@bevmacdonald9008 8 месяцев назад
She never made that claim !! She always said she was traveling around New York playing guitar in places like Greenwich Village during the 1960s. Look it up. Please. The unfounded criticism is out of hand. She told the story that she knew of herself, of course she only knew what she had been told by the parents that raised her. Her indigenous identity issue was settled decades ago. It's like everyone has lost their minds, too eager to swallow lies and believe the worst, too eager to turn on their fellow human being
@JessJArt
@JessJArt 8 месяцев назад
@@triciat2855 I don't understand either, I cannot rationalize why someone would behave this way. Thank you for sharing your story and I am sorry for the struggles you went through. I appreciate the compassion and I hope you are in a better place.
@eileendoonan
@eileendoonan 8 месяцев назад
why on gosh earth would anyone from the 60's scoop NEED to be consulted in the 5th estate episode? Honestly, the truth is right there in the files in the US, that little town 20km north of Boston...she is NOT Canadian, she is NOT indigenous, and the article had NOTHING to do with the 60's scoop...the show NEVER once indicated anything about the terrible time in our history was false...it showcased that the lies that Buffy has told for over 6 decades was allowed to grow, live, and even when the truth was highlighted all those years ago, it was allowed to silenced...which is exactly what we DONT want to tolerate any longer.
@VictorLionsTV
@VictorLionsTV 8 месяцев назад
Also the 60s scoop did start until 1951, I mean theoretically speaking a 10 year could be taken in the scoop, but there is no evidence of her living anywhere OTHER than Massachusetts the first 23 years of her life.
@SharpCinema
@SharpCinema 8 месяцев назад
She is a pathological liar. She used every trick she could to keep the lie going for decades. Her claims all contradict themselves.
@rylanddiome1286
@rylanddiome1286 8 месяцев назад
Nothing excuses the fact that she pretended to be Indigenous and had created a whole career for years based on that “fact”. She was claiming to be native long before she was adopted by the Cree’s. Spray tan. Dyed hair. The way she dresses. Even the way she sang were all red flags. I’ve been raised on a reservation and I don’t know a single person that wears feathers or chants outside of a ceremony. There are a lot of elders in my community who already knew she was not born Indigenous. No one knows each others business more than a native, take my word for it. Also using her lawyers against her own father and birth family… I don’t even want to go there it’s so disturbing. She’s now using her lawyers to try to get Fifth Estate episode taken down as well… I think what bothers me the most is the clip she put out the night before the Fifth Estate episode dropped. Anyone who’s taken 1 acting class knows that video was not only rehearsed and read from a teleprompter but it was a performance. Clearly the biggest award she never received was for her acting ability.
@reneedoiron7560
@reneedoiron7560 8 месяцев назад
Well put! So she's using lawyers again instead of simply taking a "controlled" DNA test.
@msch7620
@msch7620 7 месяцев назад
She’s half Italian. Doesn’t necessarily take spray tan and hair dye. I’m half Sicilian and the people where I live in Canada are of British and German ancestry. My hair is fuller, thicker and darker.
@reneedoiron7560
@reneedoiron7560 7 месяцев назад
@@msch7620 True. DNA works in mysterious ways. My full sister has very dark, thick hair and can tan very, very deeply, and it comes from our English side. My father, mostly French Canadian, with a small percentage of Indigenous DNA, had lighter hair and he stayed white- or else burned- all summer.
@jimmcconnell7328
@jimmcconnell7328 7 месяцев назад
Well said! She was a Hollywood version of an indigenous woman.
@sallylapradd2900
@sallylapradd2900 8 месяцев назад
She was born in 1941, how was she adopted in the 1960s scoop. She would have been minimally 10 years old , & up to 19 years old. She's a liar.
@philipnorris6542
@philipnorris6542 2 месяца назад
No she isn't.
@roseharvey2664
@roseharvey2664 8 месяцев назад
60s scoop, she was born in 1941. I get the show didn't go into indigenous issues that are very important. But the doc wasn't about that, it was about a white person that coopted their experiences. I think she's quite convincing and feel sorry for her actual family which she silenced. Particularly her brother who was threatened with her claiming to expose him as an SA perpetrator, just because he challenged her cliams to be Cree. Why doesn't she just do a DNA test and get her family to teat as well. There aeems too much evidence against her claims. I can imagine the shock for indigenous people, but this is surely not okay with them.
@redqueen5738
@redqueen5738 8 месяцев назад
A DNA test would solve this. But I highly doubt she would do it.
@franyafranya
@franyafranya 8 месяцев назад
There is no need for that at all. The birth record is unassailable. Also she signed her own marriage certificate saying she is white and born in Stoneham, Massachusetts. And nothing is more revealing than her threatening letter to her brother.
@JDoe-gf5oz
@JDoe-gf5oz 8 месяцев назад
She'll end up having less Native DNA than Elizabeth Warren.
@justinfendelet8675
@justinfendelet8675 8 месяцев назад
Buffy Son did DNA biologically related to her sister 😂 ...this is over BUFf not born Native
@nickcarroll5034
@nickcarroll5034 8 месяцев назад
@@JDoe-gf5oz she has zero native dna
@bigvrocks2480
@bigvrocks2480 8 месяцев назад
@@justinfendelet8675 Game, Set, Match...!
@Ukie88
@Ukie88 8 месяцев назад
Claim. The birth certificate proves she is Betty Santa Maria. Born and grew up in the states. It’s in the record. Altered documents is a side issue to the facts in the record.
@douglaslloydbuchholz
@douglaslloydbuchholz 8 месяцев назад
BEVERLEY JEAN SANTAMARIA (not Betty and not Santa Maria) LOOK at the birth certificate. She's had nearly 2 years to seek any such adoption records from the state of MA, and I am sure as a Order of Canada recipient she assuredly could have found the immigration and naturalization records etc. For 60+ years she's claimed she was born of a Cree woman. Where is the objective evidence of that?! No DNA testing which MUST be taken in a controlled setting, due to her lying and manipulations, and such samples must be taken while being video taped from mouth to Postal shipping. Without any such hankypanky going on, where she could alter the results to imply anything. TRUTH 100%
@shellybailey7762
@shellybailey7762 8 месяцев назад
Beverly not Betty
@Ozworldz
@Ozworldz 8 месяцев назад
@@shellybailey7762 Beverley
@Ozworldz
@Ozworldz 8 месяцев назад
Beverly
@douglaslloydbuchholz
@douglaslloydbuchholz 8 месяцев назад
BEVERLEY JEAN SANTAMARIA actually, according to her birth certificate AND her Supplemental Record of Birth as well, because the parents were notified to NAME their child after Winifred had given birth their daughter.@@Ozworldz
@loudenlaffnite246
@loudenlaffnite246 8 месяцев назад
2:05 This narrative that the birth certificate isn't the original has gotten absurd. As the Massachusetts record keeper stated: (1) Buffy's birth certificate is in a numbered sequence of deliveries by the same doctor, at the same hospital, and that doctor also delivered all her white brothers and sisters, (2) The birth date on the certificate is1941, a full decade before the Scoop started in 1951, and (3) as the Massachusetts record keeper stated, if Buffy was adopted out of Canada, there would be adoption records & a record of immigration in her file. And a bonus (4) she claimed over her life to be Algonquin, Mi'kmaq, and Cree, all by blood, on opposite sides of the country. If you want to deny one of these 4 points, then okay? But to deny them all is insane. And all of this is moot anyway: Buffy herself has now LITERALLY said she wasn't scooped, has now LITERALLY said she is not Piapot by blood. She abandoned her old narrative as the CBC piece approached, so why are these people still clinging to it? Listen to Buffy herself two weeks ago, calling what this APTN guest is propagating an "urban legend": "I’m always trying to clarify the urban legend stories because some of them are just not true and others are confusing. I think there’s been confusion regarding my Piapot adoption, for instance. I was adopted into the Piapot family - not I was adopted out of Piapot Reserve.” - BSM on the Terry David Mulligan Podcast, Oct. 14, 2023
@valross4886
@valross4886 7 месяцев назад
Too late now to change the story. The harm is already done. She, at one point, claimed her mother must have had a sexual tryst with an indigenous man ("I was born on the wrong side of the blanket.") I don't know how much lower a person could go in casting about for a defense of her grift.
@tailrj
@tailrj 8 месяцев назад
Fifth Estate investigated and they uncovered her birth certificate and it was shown; she was born in Mass. to white Italian parents. Im indigenous and it is hurtful to me and to our people. Taking away from our people's again like colonialism again 😢😢😢
@liddlemountain7245
@liddlemountain7245 8 месяцев назад
Not only that but on the hospital records is shows she was born there in Mass...
@anthonybartlett6924
@anthonybartlett6924 8 месяцев назад
italian born father u.s born mother of english ancestry. don't see much native blood there somehow. i can see that claiming to have been scooped would be hurtful to the people that were, other than i don't see her delusions matter that much as a lot of famous people try to reinvent themselves. biden & warren to name but 2.
@tailrj
@tailrj 8 месяцев назад
@@anthonybartlett6924 Absolutely, and she was not even part of Sixties Scoop because she was born in 1941!
@paddlefar9175
@paddlefar9175 8 месяцев назад
@@anthonybartlett6924How has Biden lied to reinvent himself?
@jenniferhampton5171
@jenniferhampton5171 4 месяца назад
I think she contributed much more than she took away from anyone. She obviously dearly loved and is committed to indigenous people and her indigenous family that shaped her as a person.
@user-rn1hp9wy4j
@user-rn1hp9wy4j 8 месяцев назад
Facts don’t care about your feelings
@sympaticosympatico
@sympaticosympatico 8 месяцев назад
It's hard to let go of a hero. But look at all the evidence that was presented and it sure looks like a giant scam has ben conducted.
@user-uq5db4rk1c
@user-uq5db4rk1c 7 месяцев назад
It's no longer appropriate to say she "may" not have been adopted. She wasn't. Her sister's DNA is related to her son's DNA. Case closed.
@user-ck2hr5vn8e
@user-ck2hr5vn8e 7 месяцев назад
What about the "born on the wrong side of the blanket" explanation?
@JDDM21
@JDDM21 8 месяцев назад
How can you call her a 60s scoop adoptee when she was born in 1941, me who has a father that was was part of the 60s scoop this saddens me to the core that she’s is being defended by my own people. She is an American Italian. Not hard to tell and American Italian women can pass extremely easy as a First Nations person.
@siddaye
@siddaye 8 месяцев назад
You actually cannot change an original birth certificate
@VictorLionsTV
@VictorLionsTV 8 месяцев назад
Yeah not only that, the hospital she was born in was listed, and its the SAME doctor who delivered who she calls her "adopted" siblings. She could not have been part of the 60s scoop, because it did not start till 1951, and in the documentary they proved that ALL throughout the 1950s she was living no other place but Massachusetts, and that there is footage of her as a child living with the Santamarias.
@liddlemountain7245
@liddlemountain7245 8 месяцев назад
These people assume that only non natives and non 60s scoop and non adoptees worked on this expose because it aired on Firth Estate - on the contrary, they just don't want the public to know because of the backlash. Also as explained, Buffy was born in to her "adopted" mother in Massachusetts and that's found in local documents not just her birth certificate. ALSO she's genetically related to her cousin, her son and her cousin match on Ancestry DNA. There were many people consulted on this and its ridiculous that they assume otherwise. This has been decades in the making. ALSO Kim Tallbear and many Indigenous people lead this!!
@VictorLionsTV
@VictorLionsTV 8 месяцев назад
Exactly, and in the same documentary they even say they asked the Piapot Cree First Nation if they wanted to be part of this, and they declined. Now if they are so upset, they have every right to make their own documentary and rebut it. Buffy is alive, and she can defend herself.
@sr2291
@sr2291 8 месяцев назад
How come nobody else has come forward to say they have seen their DNA accounts and are related to them.
@joriley6502
@joriley6502 8 месяцев назад
whenever I saw Buffy she reminded me of my friends UNCLE VINNIE from ITALY
@franyafranya
@franyafranya 8 месяцев назад
It's true, similar here.
@kpax45
@kpax45 5 месяцев назад
😆
@r.b.johnson5269
@r.b.johnson5269 8 месяцев назад
23 and Me and Buffy Sainte Marie!
@sandrabuck3677
@sandrabuck3677 8 месяцев назад
She needs to apologize to the world as a fraud, her awards takin back. She's mental and should be charged.
@orlandominichiello
@orlandominichiello 8 месяцев назад
60's scoop ? she was born in 41?
@IamTuxedo
@IamTuxedo 8 месяцев назад
Thats messed up and disrespectful to the Native Community. Especially after all they been through including their ancestors..
@chuknorth
@chuknorth 8 месяцев назад
Truth is truth. Harm comes when running from it.
@nunawatson4307
@nunawatson4307 8 месяцев назад
As a individual, I feel very betrayed, I go walking every morning, I listen to a lot of First Nations singers, including Bluffy … to keep me motivated and walk a little faster…I’m 71, what a betrayal! I feel for all the families she violated. Let alone Canada and USA, someone said she should win a Oscar…indeed
@lesleyhunt7557
@lesleyhunt7557 8 месяцев назад
“Bluffy”!!! That’s a great! Freudian slip or autocorrect! Either way it’s perfect!
@samdafoe4817
@samdafoe4817 8 месяцев назад
Creator has given you air to sing and fire to ignite your heart. Keep dancing and singing. Don't let her snake eyed ways corrupt your joys. Those songs aren't written or sung by her, they're written and sung by Creator - she just stole the credit. 🩵✌️
@doubled3962
@doubled3962 8 месяцев назад
Remember Iron Eyes Cody , no one made a fuss about him
@bigvrocks2480
@bigvrocks2480 8 месяцев назад
The only 'Oscar' Buffy should receive is; Oscar the Grouch, the Muppet character created by Jim Henson and Jon Stone for the PBS/HBO children's television program Sesame Street.
@hummingbirdofgumption3263
@hummingbirdofgumption3263 7 месяцев назад
Bluffy. That should've been her name.
@marleneskinner
@marleneskinner 8 месяцев назад
It's obvious Buffy was not adopted.......She is the spitting image of her birth mother Winnifred Santa Maria. Her cousin Heidi's DNA also matched Buffy's daughter which could not have happened if she was adopted.
@karentilley4356
@karentilley4356 8 месяцев назад
Buffy’s daughter? I think she only has one male child.
@Ozworldz
@Ozworldz 8 месяцев назад
And she looks exactly like her sister as well.
@_S-O-S_
@_S-O-S_ 8 месяцев назад
Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive… liar, liar pants on fire…
@nunawatson4307
@nunawatson4307 8 месяцев назад
Her career was falling so she jumped into being a First Nation and her career took off. We’ve been packing her all these years, she’s heavy!
@beverleyjohnstone2045
@beverleyjohnstone2045 8 месяцев назад
I totally agree
@georginachambers
@georginachambers 8 месяцев назад
🤣🤣🤣
@Guido33336
@Guido33336 8 месяцев назад
All the bleeding hearts will come out now a liar is a liar
@Art_of_Delphi
@Art_of_Delphi 8 месяцев назад
Give her 2018 Juno award to Kelly Fraser, a talented Inuk musician who tragically is no longer here, after her award was stolen by this woman
@CastleMc
@CastleMc 8 месяцев назад
Yes, it truly is shocking and I can understand people being confused and sad. But the investigation wasn't shoddy and seems convincing based on legal documents like the birth certificate and the history that was pieced together. As in so many "pretendindian" cases, BSM's own family denies that she was adopted or that they have any Native ancestry. I don't understand why some people feel that the potential impact of the story on Native people who were adopted should be as important than the focus on BSM. Her fraud doesn't invalidate or minimize their experiences.
@shebelieves9650
@shebelieves9650 7 месяцев назад
Truth must always be embraced rather than feelings.
@Enlightement369
@Enlightement369 8 месяцев назад
Imposter and an embarrassment to her actual country. Insidious and evil woman to suggest the things she did towards her brother to hide her true colors. Disgusting and should be boycotted into retirement.
@johnpatterson4272
@johnpatterson4272 8 месяцев назад
Oddly she announced her retirement only a few months prior to these 'facts in issue' being made public. Obviously Ms. Buffy knew what was coming.
@nuxkamina
@nuxkamina 8 месяцев назад
You are free to continue to not purchase any of her art. You are free to continue to not listen to her music. Your attitude towards strangers you never met, never supported, and don't understand is really weird. Boycott hate. Boycott racism.
@MissEAG
@MissEAG 8 месяцев назад
I understand she won many awards deemed to go to 'true' indigenous artists. Those awards certainly could have helped others project their career. Wil she be asked to return those awards now? Although I don't think she did a disservice to the indigenous community, it is all based on a BIG lie. It's one thing to support a community, but to pretend to be someone you're not to gain something, and for so long, is definitely not going to go over well in this cancel culture we have in the world today.
@Ace96x10
@Ace96x10 8 месяцев назад
You really think her big lie isn't damaging to the indigenous community? Really? That is amazing.
@MissEAG
@MissEAG 8 месяцев назад
@@Ace96x10 Please explain. How her lie was a disservice to the community (before we knew it was a lie)?
@Ace96x10
@Ace96x10 8 месяцев назад
@@MissEAG That you need to confine the issue to "before we knew it was a lie" is interesting. But ok.. She stole, for decades, awards, grants, accolades positions and recognition that would have otherwise gone to other people. On top of that harm, it makes fools of all the people awarding and celebrating her for all that time when all they had to do was a little research. It's a bad look.
@MissEAG
@MissEAG 8 месяцев назад
@@Ace96x10 You haven't mentioned anything she did to harm the community before it was known it was a lie - and that is my point and why I wrote it in past tense - if you didn't read it that way initially I can see how you were confused, but it is written in the past tense, because that was always the way I was insinuating the point, which I think many others understood. Now, that it is known it was a lie.. ok, yes, we can see the problem now, as I pointed out in my own initial comment, but what did she do that was a disservice to the community, before it was a lie? I would still like to know.
@Ace96x10
@Ace96x10 8 месяцев назад
@@MissEAG I think we live in 2 different dimensions then.
@Woodchopper46
@Woodchopper46 8 месяцев назад
She has made a mockery of The Order of Canada!
@midwayer11
@midwayer11 8 месяцев назад
They aren’t allegations if they,re true! Her real family is there to show and tell about her real story and it ain’t pretty. I,ve always had a feeling that she wasn’t legit at all. Ever since I first saw her when I was a child with my class.
@bettyb00p274
@bettyb00p274 7 месяцев назад
She needs to be held accountable and embrace her Italian heritage
@AidaJof
@AidaJof 8 месяцев назад
Thinking all the grants, awards & titles she took under fraudulent identity taking away from perhaps more deserving and legitimate indigenous peoples who are Canadian. As a Canadian I supported her and now I feel betrayed
@MiloCarrete
@MiloCarrete 8 месяцев назад
As a Mexican I can tell who has indigenous ancestry just by sight and I always found her face not very Native American to me, but I loved her music so I didn't cared. Now I feel disappointed and sad. She was like a flag to me, thank you for all you did for Native Americans, but I don't think I'll see you as before.
@sharonmontano4924
@sharonmontano4924 8 месяцев назад
Nariguda
@elizabethstops2362
@elizabethstops2362 8 месяцев назад
​@@sharonmontano4924the Cree from Canada look nothing like the meztitio that claim indigenous blood in Mexico.
@annalyman2616
@annalyman2616 8 месяцев назад
Milo, I'm Mexican too and like most of us am biologically Indigenous. I looked up to her, as she is also older than me. I always knew I was part indigenous and when I had it tested it showed I am 28%, which would make my Mexican father at least 56% . I always saw her as representative of our native heritage, but it all looks like costume and dress up now. She doesn't stand for me anymore.
@MRVISTA-wz7vj
@MRVISTA-wz7vj 8 месяцев назад
First rule of the con, NEVER STOP THE CON.
@amandad6782
@amandad6782 7 месяцев назад
She's born in the 40"s. How are people offended she was caught being a liar.
@MyKrabi
@MyKrabi 8 месяцев назад
Sending love, rage, and solidarity to all 60s scoop survivors and Indigenous friends, neighbours and colleagues
@timothyj1966
@timothyj1966 8 месяцев назад
LMFAO Rez School $CAM for more Generational Welfare Payout$
@digital6string1
@digital6string1 8 месяцев назад
You got that right.@@timothyj1966
@bevmacdonald9008
@bevmacdonald9008 8 месяцев назад
She was travelling around, supporting herself paying guitar in the 1960s, and this is well documented. She did not ever say she was taken in the 60s as part of the big scoop.
@Ozworldz
@Ozworldz 8 месяцев назад
It is she who hurt them not the CBC.
@johndelong5574
@johndelong5574 8 месяцев назад
She was a member of the "talks with hands" band.
@orlandominichiello
@orlandominichiello 8 месяцев назад
too bad you can't see my finger🙂
@davestephenson2586
@davestephenson2586 7 месяцев назад
I'm Tlingitit from Alaska. There are also Tlingit-Haida Indians in B.C, & I'm more familiar with the U.S system, but I'd like to think that indigenous people in both the U.S & Canada would rather not consign ourselves to ignorance regarding a 60-year fraud perpetrated against our people. Members of a group representing Canadian '60s scoop survivors don't speak for all Natives.
@Smithpolly
@Smithpolly 7 месяцев назад
This is way past the stage of : "Her story sounds a bit dodgy but we'll just let it be and not rock the boat". At this stage , it wouldn't be just ignorance but active dishonesty and gaslighting.
@samslick9000
@samslick9000 8 месяцев назад
Buffy should get a lifetime Oscar for her 60 year acting performance
@clevelandplonsey7480
@clevelandplonsey7480 8 месяцев назад
She should get the Racso.
@burninsage7126
@burninsage7126 8 месяцев назад
Delusional. Be mad at the person who lied; not the TRUTH TELLERS. Pretendians harm natives! Thank you to the Saint Marie family who tried to tell the truth!
@RICKRATT1
@RICKRATT1 7 месяцев назад
Bluffy isn't Canadian, Cree or adopted. All according to her family, they should know.
@MeMe-cz6pk
@MeMe-cz6pk 8 месяцев назад
Order of Canada Awarded on: April 17, 1997 Invested on: May 07, 1998 Born of Cree parents on the Piapot Reserve in Saskatchewan, she is a musician of international stature... The Order of Canada should be revoked from this American born Italian decent woman. There are so many Canadian Aborginal Women deserving of the Order of Canada, and its not her.
@everettumphrey
@everettumphrey 8 месяцев назад
Genetic Ancestry testing DNA A family line research is needed, hair (real hair) and cheek swab. Compare with the Niece and her Brother calling her their Sister and Aunt.
@HRHQueenAngelita
@HRHQueenAngelita 8 месяцев назад
I’m furious not sad she should give all her money to our First Nations children.
@BCHunterTV
@BCHunterTV 8 месяцев назад
She needs to be charged... and made example of... to stop others
@kellycolberg5013
@kellycolberg5013 8 месяцев назад
Bluffy Fake Marie
@HolmstromRules
@HolmstromRules 8 месяцев назад
By discounting the birth certificate as a common by-product of a supposed adoption, it appears that either Ms. Strongwind either hasn't actually seen the Fifth Estate story on BSM or is displaying the denial stage of grieving. The documentary provided clear evidence that it was not a post-adoption creation. The county in which BSM was born writes sequential numbers on the certificates for that year as they are processed. If we are to believe that this was a post-adoption certificate that likely would have been ordered by a judge sometime after BSM's birth, then that means that the county clerk's office would have had to go back and hand alter the numbering of every child born after her that year to make her certificate fall in the right the chronological order of her date of birth. It also seems unlikely, for an adoption related birth certificate, that clerk's office would go to the trouble of having the mother's doctor falsely attest on the legal document to have witnessed BSM's live birth.
@two-sense
@two-sense 8 месяцев назад
I think Ms Strongwind would feel better if the government consulted her. I'm sure her consulting fees would not be too much for the taxpayers to cover.
@sr2291
@sr2291 8 месяцев назад
My adoption birth certificate has the name of the doctor attesting that he attended my live birth and also my adopted mother attesting that she gave birth to me. Have you ever seen an adopted person's birth certificate? The only thing they do is switch the parents names ages maybe places of birth and occupations. The rest of it is the same document.
@HolmstromRules
@HolmstromRules 8 месяцев назад
@@sr2291 What you are describing is a court-ordered amending of an existing birth certificate. That's not what the defenders of BSM are suggesting happened. As you describe it, the doctor on your birth certificate is indeed the one that witnessed your birth... just from a different woman and by a different father. All other details are correct. BSM's defenders are asserting that her family's doctor falsely hand-signed a birth certificate that is a complete legal fiction. If her certificate were a court ordered creation, there wasn't any need to involve a doctor and making him attest to a birth he never witnessed. As stated on the certificate itself, the witness could be a doctor, parent, or "other." If BSM's certificate was ordered by a judge as part of an adoption case, all the county clerk would have to do would be to create the certificate themselves with the details provided by the court. When the doctor that delivered you signed your birth certificate at birth, everything on it was true. The filed document was only later amended by a judge at a later date when you were adopted. So, in the case of BSM, what did Dr. Herbert Land witness happen at 3:15 AM on Feb 20, 1941 at the New England Sanitarium and Hospital in Stoneham., Massachusetts?
@sr2291
@sr2291 8 месяцев назад
@HolmstromRules I don't understand what you are saying.
@HolmstromRules
@HolmstromRules 8 месяцев назад
@@sr2291 I was under the impression that you were stating that it's perfectly normal for a doctor's name being on the birth certificate of an adopted person and therefore one being on BSM's official birth certificate doesn't mean that she wasn't in fact adopted by the people that raised her. You offered your certificate as an example of that. But your scenario isn't the same as what BSM defenders are claiming. You had an initial certificate filed at the time of your birth, with the doctor who oversaw your delivery listed truthfully as the legal witness. When you were adopted legally at a later date, the original certificate was likely sealed by a judge and an amended certificate was then created that copied all of the details of your original certificate, including the doctor's name as the witness was duplicated with only the names and details of your adoptive parents being substituted for your birth parents. What you say makes perfect sense. But BSM claims that she wasn't born in the US, so there would not have been an original certificate with Dr. Land's statement as a witness on it to copy to a post-adoption amended birth certificate in Massachusetts. I also pointed out that a doctor's signature nor other information from them was required on a birth certificate... so even if BSM's purported adoptive parents in the Stoneham, MA somehow convinced a judge to let them adopt an undocumented baby from another country, they wouldn't have needed the family doctor to fudge their signature on a court-ordered birth certificate in order for it to be issued.
@iracohen3864
@iracohen3864 7 месяцев назад
It's 2023. If St Marie or Santa Maria wants to prove her case, she just does a DNA test. Well, Buffy???
@blackbird5634
@blackbird5634 8 месяцев назад
Ahahahahahaha! Hey a great act is a great act! If she's busted on it today, then that Oscar was well deserved.
@peace-yv4qd
@peace-yv4qd 8 месяцев назад
Throwing your family under the bus is one thing. But threatening your father and brother with false allegations of sexual misconduct in order to keep them quiet is another. What a terrible person.
@wilfredruffian5002
@wilfredruffian5002 8 месяцев назад
Now she says she was born on the wrong side of the blanket. So her mother's a whore now. What a turd.
@davehowe6734
@davehowe6734 8 месяцев назад
Buffy was born in the America. She isn't Canadian, nor native.
@peteincanada8412
@peteincanada8412 8 месяцев назад
Did this woman even watch the documentary?
@nas6587
@nas6587 7 месяцев назад
Buffy is the one that should apologize and give back awards...
@s.v.2796
@s.v.2796 7 месяцев назад
I watched the documentary about St. Marie. There was no hint that the 60's scoop did not occur. It was about the individual woman. They made it clear that St Marie was claiming something she had no right to NOT about the validation of everyone. They also brought receipts. People, there have always been scam artists. That does NOT mean everyone is. Furthermore what about her brother's rights? She made serious always worth zero proof.
@ph8349
@ph8349 8 месяцев назад
I wonder, why her parents kept silent about her "origin", if her claims being adopted were not true. Many couples have secrets their kids dont know about.
@alfrede.neuman8898
@alfrede.neuman8898 7 месяцев назад
This person is totally wrong. Buffy's marriage certificate is on file and gives her biological parents names and her true birth place as Massachusetts. Her sister's birth certificate is on file at the same office. The same Dr. delivered her sister as delivered her. Buffy said on Merv Griffin's late night show that she was raised by some good folks in Maine. She appeared on that show when she was married to her 1st husband Dewayne Bugbee.I made an audio cassette of that show.
@goji-nagamoojibwekwe
@goji-nagamoojibwekwe 8 месяцев назад
I’m very hurt as being adopted out to Ohio by children’s aid society in Wpg from the sixty scoop.She should apologize that hurts us a lot. What next is she gunna say she is residential school survivor and hurt more Indigenous people.
@corce209
@corce209 8 месяцев назад
Buffy apologize to the Indigenous please. It's the right thing to do. Hey, I watched those episodes on Sesame Street when I was a small child and I looked up to her.
@jeannelipham2583
@jeannelipham2583 7 месяцев назад
She as born in 1941, so how could she get "caught up in the '60's scoop?"
@user-ct7ln4qp5p
@user-ct7ln4qp5p 8 месяцев назад
Did she ever identify as an Italian? Think about it!.
@reddiver7293
@reddiver7293 8 месяцев назад
No disrespect to 60s Scoop adoptees, but pointing out falsehoods in BSM's claims is not really about them. Pain and resentment for what happened to said adoptess is real and valid. But does not give them any more authority in this case than anyone else.
@amandad6782
@amandad6782 7 месяцев назад
She used the story of the 60 scoop people to her own benefit.
@akadieliskowich9339
@akadieliskowich9339 8 месяцев назад
It’s simple, she’s a liar!
@mitchbarredo3990
@mitchbarredo3990 8 месяцев назад
I am half Indigenous. I know of her seen a couple performances on t.v. but I never was much invested in her. The truth should come out.
@annette7154
@annette7154 8 месяцев назад
Why don't she just submit dna to clear her name?
@lillianmeyer-tt9ds
@lillianmeyer-tt9ds 8 месяцев назад
Why not DNA ?
@belinda-janekent-brown4494
@belinda-janekent-brown4494 7 месяцев назад
Buffys family were threatened in the most grievous way.Especially if her claims are untrue. Can you imagine what threats Buffy would have made to the investigators? The only thing in this world that is unalterable is THE REAL TRUTH. Sad that it should end this way. She was so good she would have made it just as she is with no frills and pretentions.
@gibtargibberish7389
@gibtargibberish7389 7 месяцев назад
Please take all of her indigenous honours away from her. Please. Absolute betrayal.
@gibtargibberish7389
@gibtargibberish7389 7 месяцев назад
The liar believes the story after a while. Delusional.
@cami-loo108
@cami-loo108 7 месяцев назад
Cant DNA prove the lean of her heritage? If someone is challenging my heritage I would have sign up for a DNA test yesterday
@heatherthomson4697
@heatherthomson4697 7 месяцев назад
The 60's scoop was so deep it went all the way back to the 40's. So she was 60's scooped at 20ish yrs old. Give it up and do the dna test. I had to jump through so many hoops to show my sons status. Dna test settled it all.
@Smithpolly
@Smithpolly 7 месяцев назад
In many of the discussions talking about this , it's as if DNA testing doesn't exist and that they have to depend on the documentation. It's just bizarre.
@user-uq5db4rk1c
@user-uq5db4rk1c 7 месяцев назад
There's no "my truth" or "our truth," there's just "truth" - which in this case is an Italian American who spent 60 years wearing a costume and makeup.
@johng6637
@johng6637 7 месяцев назад
The only mention I heard in the documentary about the 60's scoop is that Sainte Marie wasn't scooped.
@mothersgauri4137
@mothersgauri4137 8 месяцев назад
Definitely birth documents are not always accurate. However, the documentary I saw on this situation sited Buffy's own statements over the years and how they changed......sighting different tribes of ancestry and changing inconsistency. This is a big problem. One can certainly be confused about ancestry for many reasons, but these statements she made herself were too contradictory. and often too vague. This whole thing is really, really sad. If she is who she claims to be, she needs to make a clear and consistent statement.
@SweetUniverse
@SweetUniverse 8 месяцев назад
I disagree. I'm a native american & am very angry that Bluffy continues to stand by her lies and has won awards based on those lies. The Fifth Estate wasn't investigating "the 60s scoop," it was investigating Buffy St. Marie's claims of indigenous ancestry & I believe they got it right. She was born in MA to Italian parents and grew up there, went to school in MA and had siblings. She even threatened her brother that she would scream sexual abuse if he didn't stop talking about their real ancestry.
@Liberty72pq
@Liberty72pq 8 месяцев назад
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