The USA defined the policy between Russia and Ukraine and now Ukraine's problem is Europe's problem? Ukraine was the third country with the most nuclear weapons and handed them over to Russia at the hands of American policy.
Polarisation implies that there are two extremes, but the reality is that you have 'sane' vs 'delusional'. There's little you really need to say to Democrats - they are informed, the things they believe are largely true, they understand the importance of democracy. MAGA, on the other hand... are absolutely insane. There is no 'equal but opposite' here. It's not 'polarization' that's the problem, but the bad-faith actions of one side in particular.
A general comment regarding the situation we find ourselves in: It's not US policy to help Ukraine win. It's US policy to help Ukraine survive until the political mood in the country changes. This is frustrating enough, but as the internal political crisis deepens, the country's commitment to defending its allies and international law in general is growing weaker as well. I'm Finnish. It's in our national interest that Ukraine wins. That international law prevails. We're used to navigating these kinds of threats alone. What really gets me is that the USA is starting to block European initiatives. Why? The USA wants Europe to do more, right? Well, yes, unless that means going against a nuclear power like Russia. Then, all you can do is duck and take cover. This is very short-sighted but not unexpected from the point of a view of a nation that's been in the situation that Ukraine is in now.
Once Finland agree to our foreign military bases on it soil, it lost it's sovereignty I understand your frustration, however you must understand your are our vassal now. As a Vassal state you have no national interest & If we want your opinion we will inform of it beforehand.
(FWIW I strongly recommend James Ker-Lindsay's presentations. I never comment on them because I always watch them on my kitchen screen thing, first thing in the morning, after they come out.)
I must give admiration to Pyotr for his statements about President Biden after the assassination attempt. I see Biden as a lifelong statesman which gives him a good grasp of gravitas. This ability is invaluable, and completely beyond Trumps vulgarity.
Calling Biden a statesman is absurd. He's always been the dumbest man in the room. Re Ukraine, he's slow rolled needed defenses and weapon systems to Ukraine because his fear of Putin's huffing and puffing. Unfortunately, Trump's statements on Ukraine call into question his judgment and moral clarity,and may have even been worse. The US is in a bad place.
If the thought of another Trump presidency without judicial guardrails this time sends chills down your spine, then your instincts are in proper order.
Putin spent his time in the KGB as a counter intelligence specialist in Dresden trying to catch Soviet’s & East Germans spying for the west. He never caught a single spy and had an unassuming career, he is not the super-spook many claim him he was.
I was thinking recently Scott Lucas would make a great guest for Silicone Curtain, lo and behold here he is.I do think that the Trump incident would give the Democrats some sort of explanation if sticking with the Biden bid for presidency fails in the end result,thanks gentlemen.
Did I miss it, or was there not much in this discussion about how a Trump presidency might affect Ukraine -- the subject indicated in the title of the video?
Professor Lucas is a favourite guest for sure, up there with keir Giles and Sir James Sherr et .al. He's also the only one I have heard since this incident to point out that Trump peddles this politics of violence, the guy that said he could "shoot someone on the street and get away with it". But the poor Don, he is reaping what he sowed and now he''s the "victim".
I am not so sure he is right. Praising the US military strength is meaningless if the military cannot be used. Fact is at least 2/3 if the support for Ukraine comes from Europe. From this 61 billion only 17 goes directly to Ukraine and even this is questionable when. Not a single F16 comes from the USA.
That's a ridiculous statement. Trump was far harder on China than Biden. He renegotiated trade deals the previously allowed China to screw us. Biden reversed those immediately upon taking office.
I was watching live. I do not think this was staged. However, what I saw when trump got up and told the Secret Service to ‘wait, wait, wait’ and the fisted and yelled ‘fight fight, fight’ while the SS stood there! There was zero concern for their wellbeing, or trump’s or the crowd. They didn’t know there was a shooter so they had to assume there might be another. There was ZERO hurry and it just looked like a Reality TV episode set up for ratings. At the RNC, the crowd is now fisting, yelling ‘fight, fight, fight’! This is not defiance. Defiance would be getting the hell out of the situation, trying to protect others and then talking about it afterwards. It’s marketing! Please help others understand this.
I was hoping for some considered assessment but was treated to the youtube equivalent of a bunch of old women hand wringing for 27 minutes. At that point I gave up.
I have a question for Dr. Lucas. Since Russia invaded Ukraine, a great deal has changed in terms of global economics, not just global security. Prior to the war, the EU offered Russia a very sweet economic deal, NATO was dwindling in terms of actual armed forces and was really more of an economic union. Now Russia has effectively been kicked out of economic dealings with the EU, and the US has benefited hugely, most especially in terms of oil and LNG sales. Could Trump really convince the US to shutter a huge portion of its industry and give it all back to Russia along with a chunk of Ukraine? It seems unlikely.
@@Cruzeoc101 Another Russian troll. So pathetic. The US is now the major exporter of both oil and LNG while Russia is tumbling into debt and nobody trades the ruble at all. India now buys oil from the UAE.
To me the biggest issue of the Assassination attempt was the total break down of the secret service that was supposed to be protecting Trump. If competent people were running the show the attempt would have never happened. I don't think that the secret service is incompetent, and that is very concerning.
@@maritaschweizer1117 This is exactly right... there's a lot of 'very human' reaction, to this event... that there must be someone to always blame. Sometimes... it comes down to a local 'provincial' police force just not being thorough enough.
I've heard someone say Dump hand-picked what people were allowed to be his Secret Service security detail based on irrelevant factors I don't remember (political views, I think), which might have led to less capable people protecting him. "The best people" and all that.
@@norwegianzound Yes it is Mr Norwegian, If the security did there job properly this would have been a non issue, and the innocent victim would still be alive. I need to spell this out for you? Wow!
A Trump presidency will be horrible for the USA, but keep in mind that Trump was moving troops from Germany to Poland, Trump did authorize the assassination of the orchestrator of Iran's malicious foreign operations, he did criticise Germany for Nordstream 2. He's given plenty of cause for dread in regards to Ukraine, but for what it's worth, I look at the prospects as unpredictable.
NATO has allowed the US to pay for everything for far too long and now with American isolationism rearing its head, is terrified...typical and not very far-sighted. Europe frequently has difficulty looking beyond its nose. France and Germany dealing with the Chinese and Russian hydrocarbon dependence in the case of the latter is an example. The same happened before with Iraq, as all the Europeans had backroom deals with Saddam, ignoring all of these threats and depredations. The USA has not really had a real long-term foreign policy since George Bush Senior. Trump began a long-term policy shift against China, which Biden has carried on. Economically, the US is refocusing on the Americas, bringing industry back and with them supply chains much closer to home. Biden, is non compos mentis. Whoever is running the Executive, it is not Biden but non-elected persons. Biden has no expertise or depth in foreign policy or anywhere else.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1892">31:32</a> "biden is obvioously ... biggest suporter of Ukraine outside of Ukraine". That's just laughable / ignorant.
Financially and militarily wise he is the biggest one indeed, no matter honestly or not. Joe Biden has no single reason to support Zelensky personally since he initiated five criminal cases against Hunter Biden who was a board member in some Ukrainian company.
I think it would have been even more interesting to have this discussion with people that were a little bit more nuanced about and perhaps a bit closer to trump. Scott Lucas was the dems camp speaking. Better talk to the source than its opponents. I think this very important topic then would have been discussed in an even more correct and precise way. Which in the end is more helpful for ukraine and its supporters. 🇸🇪🇺🇦
@@Trompunitalphapropan Not sure, but American public opinion is with Ukraine; the senate vote on military aid proved its a 25-75 split. Trump is not perfect but he is far from stupid. If Trump wants to join in the fascist invasion of a free democratic people and the continent where the vast majority of his allies are his career will not survive it.
@@migproductions4045 what if Trump removes all sanctions on Russia. Wont the western military industrial complex have a green light to sell to Putin again?
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2295">38:15</a> "people like to simplify it as black and white. Anyone who does is either naive or has malicious agenda". So is our guest naive or has bad agenda since he just simplified all people into black and white :))))
That first hits opening monolog is total nonsance. Thatwas just narrative creating. Total manipulation. Both sides do it and pisses me off. There is no honest fact based dialog from either side. This why I can't stand American politics.
As a Canadian, I very much view Trump as an existential threat. Not only to American democracy, but for Canadian politics (which Trump's nonstop cavalcade of bullshit has completely polarized), and for Ukraine's very survival! You have NO idea just how much American politics affects us all! If America goes down, you WILL drag the rest of us down with you! So quit with this "both sides are equally bad" nonsense and take the threat seriously!
@wills9732 TROLL INCOMING "not allowed an opinion" Actually back in not so great mother Russia do try not to tow the Kremlin line and tell us what happens next. Big difference, Ivan. You enjoy the freedom here on online channels in the West which you only dream back in Russia.
it's kinda sad/bad when you hear the news, and your immediate thought is (beyond "i hope everyone is fine" as you watch the video...) great, just what i/we needed 😥... Trump seems to be way too high on power and can't get enough of it (not to mention he's also likely to go to jail for the rest of his life if he can't win. NOT saying he's 100% a bad leader potentially! in theory! (smh! though i did pretty much lost all hope in him after his EXTREME first term disappointment :(.)) and his followers have drank the whole pool of Kool-Aid and are completely mesmerized by ... what ever it is he talks (well, ceaselessly whines :(.) about all the time. which is a horrible lose-lose generally. for a healthy democracy. in a sense, yanno, if you spend 100% of your time trying to piss half the country off for no real reason other than pandering, that's ... risky business. :( what happened was ugly and not what ANYONE needed, but this topic (yours lol!) will be an extremely fascinating topic to follow. :) his stance on NATO / global defense in general was one of his policies i pretty much agreed with 100% and was much due. let's hope he doesn't mess up too bad on the Ukraine/Russia/China stuff if we get there :) thanks Jon!
I can’t believe you are having this discussion immediately following the most serious presidential assassination attempt since 1981! Jonathan, I have been listening to you for years. I am shocked and sadly disappointed. Shame on you! You have betrayed your profound and elemental bias
On the other hand, this distracts from the endless sensationalist news coverage of Biden's age. Also, it's a short-term reaction. The election isn't until November.
@@SiliconCurtain With all due respect, your statement is moronic. Biden compared Trump to Hitler. I subscribe to your channel because you are usually insightful and measured in your analysis. This is far, far, below your usual level of discourse. In all the criticisms of former President Trump, I heard broad brush negativity. Not once, unless I am wrong, did I hear the phrase, "For example..." Unless I am wrong, it is President Biden's fear-based, feckless, foreign policy that has strung this conflict out, resulting in needless Ukrainian casualties and destruction. Biden's "gifts" of out-of-date weapons from the DOD war surplus store, priced as though they were new, together with his failure to state a goal of Ukrainian victory, or at least one of Russian defeat, have been insufficient for Ukraine's needs and tragic for Ukraine. Trump's presidency was marked by widespread peace and progress toward the resolution of long-standing conflicts. Ukraine deserves friends of better quality than is has in Joe Biden.
I am surprised that otherwise very sofisticated Silicon curtain program in this issue goes down the path of hate speach against Trump. If you critisize a candidate supported by half the countrie's voters you should be able to show concrete exsmples of wrongdoings.
Nobody has the time to list the endless reasons Trump is unfit for office. Who are you, Rip van Winkle? Where have you sleeping? As for why so many americans support trump, it is an endless frustration first described by Mark Twain - how easily the public is fooled.
@@marinmarinov6663 "The drama" There is one and only one drama you Kremlin trolls are paid to make the West, your declared enemy, forget. The drama of the impacts of your illegal military invasion and land theft of Ukraine. Your genocide and your refusal to accept any responsibility for it. It is always someone else's fault. Never yours. You blame everyone, past wars, Nato. It's your job.
If you want to understand the right please interview Andrew Klavan or other Daily Wire people, Megyn Kelly, Dennis Prager, Lauren Chen, etc. listening to leftists about the right is a dangerous slanderous, waste of time.
Consequences for everyone and you should be worried.you talk like your disconnected to Europe. Gear up.This will get ugly.Forget America you are probably on your own.
