The Jamestown Crisis | For All Mankind 

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I read that comment before that part in the video and genuinely thought that's an interesting bit of trivia. XD

I was just about to say something.... You should just re-edit and reupload.

@@highlander723 Over a detail like that? Thats just a waste of time

LOL ^_^ I've never watched the show, despite its intriguing premise, so I wondered if this was some kind of joke the show made about the character. That being said, Thanks for summing up the show in this bit. I wish I had the time (and money) to watch all the shows I would like to see, and this one just didn't make the list. I will have to find a wiki, though, because I wonder: did the Cuban Missile Crisis not happen in the 'For All Mankind" Universe? This Jamestown Incident seems to be the 'stand in' for that one (almost causing WW3).

Soviets actually legit were working on combat spacesuits. There's a picture of one and there was one on display at a museum, but i don't remember the name of that museum. There were even blueprints for a rover designed for combat

Oooh, got a link for those ones?

Tib Sun GDI was p dripped out too

@@sebleonard8273 This means they thought a Space Conflict with the US, most-likely over the Moon was a serious possibility..

the fps game boundary has some cool spacesuit designs

The second reactor was going critical. YOU DIDN'T SEE IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE! Wait... this event probably never happened in this timeline.

so, if we ever needed a massive payload sent to the moon... there's a *chance* we could still use this idea?

@@Name-nw9uj Yes, there is a chance but because of constant budget cuts from the us gov to Nasa it's improbable

@@hadiox7087 space x will eventually start creating rockets launched from underwater

That and it was designed to be made out of submarine nickel-steel, they wanted to build these in submarine dock yards, the first stage could also be recovered via parachute.

@@kp-legacy-5477 Lol yeah sure

No it’s not.

I see it more as the power of propaganda harnessed for the good of the many. The Space Race was about developing navigation, surveillance and weapons satellites with global reach. But the U.S. had to _sell_ the space race as a peaceful contest of science and exploration in order to maintain public support. In the end though, inventions like GPS, computers, miniaturized computers and vacuum-sealed food have utterly changed our societies and led to even greater technological breakthroughs. Humans need a great challenge - typically, we find it in war. But we can also find it in searching for a new home.

@@arryn786 "no its not"🤓

@@madlad8035 …Did you think you were doing something or? Are you just a schizo :/

@@arryn786 “no its not” 🤓

“We came in peace, for all mankind.” was the motto of Apollo 11, well before the meaninglessness of Apollo-Soyuz. Since the RW Soviet Union had abandoned the race, it is possible that the US was, in RW, a bit more altruistic than it might have been in the series

@@Egilhelmson Yes, but not in the universe of For All Mankind. The second half of your comment explains why you're wrong about the first. There's no way in hell Apollo 11 would have used that motto in the For All Mankind universe. Also, Apollo-Soyuz was not meaningless, it was the literal start of what would eventually become the International Space Station.

@@yaltschuler Actually, purpose of ISS was primarily used to keep rocket scientists and engineers at Roscosmos employed in order to prevent proliferation of ballistic missile technology. Of course, it has countless many other benefits, but the primary political motivation is to prevent ballistic missile proliferation. Since Congress hates NASA just like when it killed Saturn derived vehicles, tried to kill Space Shuttle (which caused USAF gaining design control over shuttles), and was also hostile towards space station.

@@Egilhelmson The Soviets never "abandoned" the space race. They led the space race until the US moved the goalpost and declared that "going to the moon means we won the space race". Up to that point, the soviets had beat America to the punch on every space milestone. They maintained their own space station until the US' Skylabs burned up in atmosphere, then they collaborated with the rest of the world on the ISS, fielding the crew modules used to ferry astronauts to and from the station.

@Denver Beek the Soviets made it to space, but their goal was to the moon same as the US. So lets look at this in context. As for the space race the germans beat both and won when they launched a new v2 from Peenemünde, and became the first known man-made object to reach space, traveling 118 miles on October 3, 1942. The soviets made it to space first and conveyed aspirations to the moon. The soviets won the orbit race with Yuri Gagarin. The US however beat them to the moon. And their first station was a catastrophe. April 19, 1971, the Soviet Union placed into orbit Salyut, the world’s first space station. Salyut hosted the crew of Georgi T. Dobrovolski, Vladislav N. Volkov, and Viktor I. Patsayev. The flight ended tragically when the crew died due to the sudden depressurization of their Soyuz 11 spacecraft shortly before reentry into the Earth’s atmosphere. That left the US ahead with the first successful space station, skylab which lasted May 25, 1973 to February 8,1974 kept astronauts 84 days, a record at the time over the soviets and when tests were completed for the Saturn v phase tests it was allowed to fall back to earth. Now if all that plus the moon landing isn't enough to show the US was ahead in most areas of space exploration, the ussr lost cosmonauts in space accidents when the US didn't.

You do mean frak, right?

@@williamhumes7332 Oh! Yes, I do. Apologies. I wasn't yet fully awake... need more algae coffee in the morning

I had the same feelings watching the scene.

the only thing is that, that is not how orbits work.

Imma be honest, the slow buildup in season 1 makes sense. Wars aren't started overnight, it takes years of planning and rising tensions to trigger it. And we see things gradually progress from "Oh, just the 1960's" to "HOLY FUCK IT'S WARHAMMER 40K"

thanks! the added maps and animation takes a bit more work, glad to know it went over well

@@TemplinInstitute Hey can you consider doing the Cabal Empire from Destiny at some point in the future? Also I'd love to see the Master's Unity from Fallout 1!

As per usual; damn narrations are a true work of art, often.

@@TemplinInstitute 100% worth it. It makes following the logic of a battle a hundred times easier when it seen visually: its a really common trait among historical channels that do things like this for real-world (our world?) battles. And personally, I think it really fits with this channel's quality over quantity aesthetic.

Nothing special. It's the same stereotypical nonsense (good Americans, bad Russians), just relocated to another battlefield.

What is this show? I really wanna watch it

@@josephstalin322 For All Mankind

@@cowmoo5596 thank you, Comrade!

Best show on TV IMHO

It isn't even "near-future"... The third season is set in the 90s.

Apparently their radios were on different frequencies.

The russians weren't stupid. This was likely the exact result that they wanted. They felt threatened by the Americans militarizing Jamestown, so they looked for a reason to shoot back but not to shoot first. So they put these cosmonauts there to provoke the americans. I don't think the cosmonauts were on board with that, which might be why one of them asked for asylum in the US despite getting shot by an american. Mother Russia literally put him there to die, just so they can save face.

@@adanfuenets3148 i think he meant someway who spoke english well, not having to rely on the books

The Cosmonauts are shot as they go to reach for their own book of English phrases, the American soldiers thinking they were reaching for guns. The Americans also had translated phrases, but they were just a handful of phrases, and not sufficient to communicate with the Cosmonauts.

TLDR: Grunts go brrr

seems like this game went under radar back when

Just be careful the Soviet’s don’t find the Promethian Technology to make furies lol

and than the Blackdogs and the Chinese start fighting

Maybe someday we'll get that battlezone video lmao

@@creatorsfreedom6734 it has a remaster some years back: battlezone '98 and Battlezone 2. I haven't played the remasters but they look cool

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proof of how durable duct tape is though!

Has anyone cosplayed this ?!

@@Bondoz007 you would be kicked out of keneddy space center so fast

Casually ignores the Soviet astronaut killed by the US :T

@@Pabloski483 shouldn't have been there.

Hey if you like Alternate Realities with space-colonization focuses, check out Prey from 2017! JFK survives his assassination attempt, has 2 terms and heavily pushes for the space race! A Menshevik Uprising causes a violent Coup of the USSR!

It’s kind of frustrating that so much of the show gets dismissed by viewers because they expect it all to be in space. The relationships of the characters on Earth are used to explore the culture and politics of the era in each season, which is important for a historical story.

Ep 1 is out!

then this show is for you.

Didn't they though? The firefight in the hallway just before the MacGyver Inc. space suits sequence? Or if you were saying you just wanted to see more of it, well... yeah I kinda did too lol

@@quinnsoutar2196 The prop guns were some kind of AKM variant with east German stocks. I was hoping for actual AK74s

@@quinnsoutar2196 No, they had 7.62x39 AKM variants. It'd be more correct and tbh cooler to see the cosmonauts with AK74s in 5.45x39. I enjoyed the scenes anyways... lol

Out of curiosity, did you watch the show? I think they did a pretty good job of explaining why this conflict occurred.

@@JosephVozzo they did yes, sort of the ideological disputes, plus the killing of the soviet and the wounding of his partner. Resources tho should’ve never been the focus, there’s plenty of craters they could’ve used, those being next to each other was more about a pissing contest.

@@ethanlackey8048 If the human species was reduced down to two people, somebody would still want someone dead. Humans are space orcs.

Theoretically yes, but the expense and time of travel means people still want the closer options for colonization.

@@fifthcolumn388 true true, and that’s just shortsightedness leading to conflict

And its a shame. Its concept is really interresting and would have worked

@@Tomlar147 combustion instability

@@kalpakwadettiwar9487 if they had tried to pursue that road maybe it would have been solved

@@Tomlar147 there was no need for such big payloads back then, but perhaps the design could be revisited in the near future

@@toxicg3100 you are right. They could use it to deliver parts of a new space station or Luna mission with it. And if you take in the advances in compomnants and alloys mabye even build the rocker bigger or with a heavy pay load

Watch this show just be revealed as a prequel to the expanse.

Good news, the showrunners announced a seven season arc, the fourth is already in development.

@@SHVRWK I can't wait to see year 2132 СССР/soviets lol

@@gifyifhkhmcucyk6865 Which is my problem with the show. The Soviet Union is bound to collapse from the day of its inception. Their politics and economical system are unsustainable, they would always collapse in every alternate universe.

@@SHVRWK In the show, Gorbatchev was successful with his economical reforms, transforming the USSR into the equivalent of modern day China with state capitalism.

Renewed for season 4 too.

i got a heart? i dont see it..but thats epic!

Especially when Gordo's arc was actually quite interesting and good.

The family drama was great for exploring and critiquing the family dynamics of that time. It addresses the reality of people from that era (and even still today,) not having emotional maturity and rejecting therapy when they desperately need, and the show then demonstrates the consequences those societal pressures can have on relationships. The culture of the time is just as important as the politics and science of the era, and the show makes sure to cover as much of it as it can.

god damn it, I think you're right

I did love the video though!

@@TemplinInstitute He's right, I was just scrolling down to see if someone else caught it. Sally Field is an access, best known for starring opposite Burt Reynolds and also as Andrew Garfield's Spiderman's Aunt May.

The hair kind of gives it away

The sheer irony.

I doubt For All Mankind being a Star Trek Prequel, as the writer of Star Trek was a pro-socialist guy and I dont really think thats the message of this show.

@@jakespacepiratee3740 being pro Soviet is not the same as being pro socialism. Or so I am told by every single Socialist I meet.

@@NGCAnderopolis I know there is a difference between the Soviets and Socialism as a whole.

For All Mankind is more of a sequel to The Expanse than it is to Star Trek.

Sounds interesting. You have a link or maybe a reference for a search?

Link?

I didn't like the fact that drama things are sprinkled randomly throughout episodes though but still it is pretty good show

@@ruskiwaffle1991 The Karen part still gave me PTSD

It gave me something of an "Outland" vibe.....

Trespassers? They got to the moon first they have as much right as the US to mine Shackleton.

@@L154N4LG4IB Nope. The US had established a claim, jumping it is an act of war. In our world, no one can claim territory on the moon due to treaties, but that doesn't exist in their world.

Bro Season 3 already has 2 episodes💀

@@shbenbapiro686 WAIT WHAT!?! ..... '-' I actually didn't know! I haven't checked! Edit: Holy Scheiße!! YOU'RE RIGHT! I'm dumb.... i'm sorry. ;-; And thanks.

It wouldn’t be as disastrous as it would on Earth, but the fact it’s occurring at the base itself is fatal to all that’s there If things failed, both the Soviets and Americans at the colony would have been killed and may have escalated the conflict The sacrifice done to prevent it saved the lives that was there and was a factor in defusing the conflict

On one hand you don't have wind to carry the radioactive dust far. On the other hand, you also don't have rain on the moon to wash the radioactive materials away. Overall it still better that the radioactive dust stay near the blew up reactor.

@@minhducnguyen9276 you'd get "wind" from the steam escaping the destroyed reactor at explosive pressure. What you *wouldn't* have is any atmosphere to create drag or to dissipate the heat in any substantial way.

theyre wearing space suits, i think that can block out radiation...

@@gasmaskalan1771 it depends on how much and more importantly the kind of radiation, its not like their suits are lead lined or anything

It’s both realism points, and adds to the aesthetic of the show, that both the USA and USSR didn’t build their moon bases for war

@@myownspace9666 I wasn't wanting it to be a War vehicle, rather an easy transport vehicle that could reach places more than say a Lunar Rover.