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The Legacy Standard Bible, Handy Size Edition 

R. Grant Jones
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A review of the Legacy Standard Bible (LSB) Handy Size Edition, the slate gray cloth-over-board hardback (ISBN 9781636640563).
The LSB is a conservative update to the 1995 New American Standard Bible. It contains the 66 books of the Protestant canon.
This edition features a 9.5 point text arranged in a single column, divided into verses. The text is usually line-matched, but not always.
The text block is sewn and lies flat in Genesis. The wide inner margin keeps the text far from the gutter.
The 32 gsm paper is reasonably opaque, so that show-through (ghosting) is usually not distracting. The paper displays some specular reflection (sheen).
This edition of the LSB does not include text or translation notes, nor are there any references or maps. A concordance is not included. However, 46 pages of dot matrix paper, useful for taking notes, are present.
From about the 13:23 point, this video focuses on the character of the LSB as a translation.
Contents
00:00 Introduction
01:23 Page layout
02:40 Font size and print quality
04:31 Text features and navigation aids
06:50 Paper qualities
07:54 The material in back
08:35 Ribbons, cover, sewn binding ...
10:26 Title and copyright pages, foreword ...
12:16 Font comparisons
13:23 The LSB is relatively literal
13:56 The Old Testament is based on the Masoretic text
14:30 Agreement with four Greek New Testaments
17:21 New Testament renderings
25:03 Observations on the Old Testament
27:05 Summary

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9 июл 2024

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Комментарии : 97   
@timwildsmith
@timwildsmith 2 года назад
Thanks, Grant... I always enjoy watching you analyze a new Bible!
@judgehenry4157
@judgehenry4157 2 года назад
Simply a fantastic and very thoroughly done review and translation comparison. Nobody in Bible videos, does it better than you Brother. I could literally rave all day about you and the work that you do with these videos. Please do not ever quit. God Bless you!
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thanks very much for the positive feedback, Judge Henry! May God bless you and yours as well.
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 2 года назад
Mr. Jones's Bible reviews are the BEST on RU-vid and his commentary is excellent.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
@@hassanmirza2392 - thank you for saying so, Hassan! I'm honored.
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 2 года назад
@@RGrantJones Welcome. You are our theology teacher. I always recommend your channel to other people ^_^
@TheBibleQuizChannel
@TheBibleQuizChannel 2 года назад
Excellent review. I just came across your channel and was happy that I did.
@hoc1992
@hoc1992 Год назад
Thank you for this. This is arguably the best REVIEW of the LSB since its release. Especially with the text. I love the LSB, i have a couple of them so far
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones Год назад
Thanks for the kind words, hoc1992! I agree with you - the LSB is an excellent translation.
@Bellg
@Bellg 2 года назад
Just want to stop by and say i love all your videos. Hope 2022 will bring us many more
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thanks for the encouragement, Belg!
@judgehenry4157
@judgehenry4157 2 года назад
You are the king of thorough Bible reviews.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thank you for the encouraging comment, Judge Henry!
@bstring3967
@bstring3967 Год назад
Thorough is an understatement
@RyGuy8989
@RyGuy8989 2 года назад
I received the black Italian cowhide edge lined edition for Christmas. My Bible for decades to come!
@abrahamelgin4620
@abrahamelgin4620 2 года назад
As a translation, I rather like the LSB. Sometimes I have trouble making sense of KJV, but I also do not like the tone of translations like the NLT. LSB, to me, is a nice mix of the two, where it is respectful of the original text and respectful to the 21st century reader.
@PneumaticTube
@PneumaticTube Год назад
Such a wonderfully detailed analysis of this LSB. Thanks for all the detailed information regarding the translation differences.
@edjiang
@edjiang 2 года назад
Thanks for this excellent review. I’ve been looking forward to it. Wish you a great 2022!
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thanks for the kind comment, edjiang! I hope we all have a great 2022!
@fumastertoo
@fumastertoo 2 года назад
Another excellent review, and hope you have a great new year!
@zachtbh
@zachtbh 2 года назад
Great video! Hope the translators watch this video too! I'd expect them to do some editorial revisions/polishing after a few years..
@podgorneyjohn
@podgorneyjohn 2 года назад
Fabulous review! Bravo!
@stephengilbreath840
@stephengilbreath840 2 года назад
Been waiting for this one
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
I hope you found the video worthwhile, Stephen. Thanks for commenting!
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 2 года назад
A very detailed review. Learned a lot about Bible translation history.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thanks for commenting, Hassan!
@Mechtrekica
@Mechtrekica 2 года назад
This is a pretty nice bible. Like they kept omitted verses (left in brackets) instead of deleting them. I'd like to see larger print versions as time goes on and foot notes. Nice review R. Grant Jones!
@Mechtrekica
@Mechtrekica 2 года назад
a complaint I do have is the paper wrinkles far easier than any of my other Bibles.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thanks for the encouraging comment, IG 4WDI! I'm interested in the fully annotated reference editions, which may be available before this time next year. So far, the print and paper quality is encouraging.
@dino575
@dino575 2 года назад
Thank you for another wonderful review! So helpful and fascinating also to listen to you work your way through this. Your work is appreciated !! ++
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thanks very much for the kind and encouraging comment, DinoDino!
@artistocracy
@artistocracy 2 года назад
Thank you, Grant, for your thoroughness, particularly the page and text measurements. I appreciate knowing this while I compared it with my KJV Schuyler Treveris. I do have an LSB in Shamar goatskin on its way to me, here in Australia, right now, which is why I am so interested in learning about this bible. Mine is leaving LAX airport about now and aught to be here well before end January, after which I shall be doing an unboxing, and later a review which is what I do with all my bibles.
@samueljones5421
@samueljones5421 2 года назад
You're videos are always great, I would love to see you just talking about your favorite bibles (if you haven't already and I've missed it somehow lol)
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
I like the white space so makes it more readable I think. The Italian leather patina cover is nice to hold. I will also get the new one in spring. Less bold print seems easier to read over time. I think this is my FAVOURITE bible today.
@MinisterRedPill
@MinisterRedPill 2 года назад
I do appreciate the reviews you make. I wish there was a perfect a translation.
@micahwatz1148
@micahwatz1148 Год назад
Cant wait for the lsb with definitions and references to come out
@Mike-pz6hz
@Mike-pz6hz 2 года назад
Great and thorough review as always. Thank you. Would you consider doing a comparison between the NASB 2020 and the LSB? I'm a big fan of your comparison videos. I know the LSB was done to counter the NASB 2020 and they are siblings to each other and children of the NASB 1995. Similar to the ESV and NRSV. I was just curious as to how many of the literal renderings in the footnotes in the NASB 2020 made it into the text of the LSB. Trying to decide if it's worth purchasing as I already have an NASB 2020. Thanks.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Legacy Standard Bibles may be purchased here (when they're in stock): 316publishing.com/collections/bibles . The companion unboxing video may be viewed here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5zghcu85dP4.html .
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
@@bodaciouscharmer - I've seen that one. There are several worthwhile videos about the LSB on that channel. Thanks for commenting!
@poplarmeadow
@poplarmeadow 2 года назад
This was another great review! I owned the goatskin version. It would be a much better bible if had larger fonts, cross-references, and translator notes. I have used the Accordance Bible software to compare to other translations. There are many notable changes when comparing the NASB95--all for the better.
@nottechytutorials
@nottechytutorials 2 года назад
Very thorough review! Thank you for showing us what this bible looks like. Right off the bat, it looks like its a good translation and is very literal. My only qualms, judging from a glance, is that even tho the translators focused on the original author's intent and not focusing on the reader, they still kept to the traditions. Like they kept chapter and verse numbers (maybe they can do a reader's edition? but it being off on the side of the margins is fine), they did verse-by-verse line breaks (paragraph form would look nicer), and kept the references to Deity with capital letters (they can keep it as God but not words like You).
@SimplyAwesomeOriginal
@SimplyAwesomeOriginal 10 месяцев назад
Amazing review.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for the kind comment!
@edwardgraham9443
@edwardgraham9443 2 года назад
I've grown really appreciate single column paragraph Bibles. Having been a reader and user of the NKJV for most of my life, paragraph setting had already been ingrained in me, it makes, in my opinion, for better contextual reading and for studying too. Verse-by-verse, on the other hand can lead to broken up thoughts and lead to poor exegesis, again in my opinion. Single column also works wonder for poetic setting sections of the Bible. It brings out the beauty and multi faceted nature of the Biblical writers and their different styles. This I believe make understanding and reading the Bible a bit easier, to me at least. I think we have have good, even very good English translations already for a new one, what I think is for publishers to focus on better Bible productions, especially in terms of paper and font and also layout. I've not yet read the LSB so I can't about the translation. Thus far, and I don't see it changing any time soon, the ESV is the one for, it might not be for everyone, but it is for me. Great review Grant.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thanks for the kind comment, Edward! I tend to prefer verse-by-verse for in-depth study, because it helps me read slowly. But I like the paragraph setting for devotional reading. I'll be interested to see how the LSB fares over the next few years, particularly against its relatives (the '95 and 2020 NASBs).
@edwardgraham9443
@edwardgraham9443 2 года назад
@@RGrantJones I understand that quite a few people give the ability to read slowly and navigation as the reason to prefer verse by verse over paragraphs, but I find personally that with paragraph setting, I'm able to control my own pace. If I want to speed read I can and if want to read slowly I can, just like I do when reading any other book. Literature was a subject I absolutely loved in high schools because I had to do a lot of reading and I did read quite a bit of Shakespeare and other poetry and also much prose, so it helped shape my reading and understanding of what I read, when you saw the different writing styles and genres. The first Bible I read was the KJV and it being verse by verse, I did struggle somewhat with the verse by verse prose sections, it was difficult to seen the transition from one genre to the next, especially in places like Ecclesiates a d Jeremiah. Reading Shakespeare was some help in reading the KJV, but I soon started to use the NKJV and that has one of, if not, the best layout of any Bible I know, I found my Bible layout, all be it that time it was double column paragraph and not single column. I don't find single column paragraph difficult for study. Some say it's hard to find the verses but I haven't had that difficulty, at least not in the one I have. I'm hoping to get the ESV Preaching Bible some time this year but I'm going for the paragraphed one because it has the poetic settings while the verse by verse option is laid out like a KJV, it does have a concordance that I wished the paragraphed one had. But I'd choose the layout over the concordance even though I'd really would have liked it. If the verse by very edition had the poetic setting I think I'd choose it instead, but I want to read the Psalms, Proverbs, Isaiah and the rest of the poetry like poetry because that is how I believe they were meant to be read. It must be a reason why it was written as poetry in the fiery place. As to LSB, let see how that one goes. A lot of people have expressed interest in it so far and there is a following already. I just don't know that their will be much difference between it and what was already there. Unless there is going to be some faith defining changes due to some archaeologicsl or lexicographical find or they suddenly discover the original manuscripts that the Bible authors pen, then I just don't see the need for a new English Bible translation.
@jimmu2008
@jimmu2008 2 года назад
@@edwardgraham9443 I agree with you about paragraph vs. verse by verse Bibles. However, I think there have been some studies that have shown that wide paragraphs can interfere with reading comprehension, and I have noticed that myself. Whether I prefer a single-column or a two-column Bible depends on how wide the column is and on the font size.
@edwardgraham9443
@edwardgraham9443 2 года назад
@@jimmu2008 That is my own position as well. If the paragraph is too wide then it makes tracking from one line to the next somewhat fatiguing and you can easily lose your place. The optimal for a paragraph on a single column layout should be 9 to 12 words per line, but most single column Bibles have 14 words per line. Poetry is where single column Bibles shine the most and since a lot of the Bible, especially the Old Testament is poetry, it makes reading for me a bit easier. My intention when I pick up the Bible is to read and understand so that I can make applications to my life. Some say they read verse by verse because it makes them read slower, but I find the verse by verse often breaks up the author's train thought and often at the wrong place and that can affect understanding and interpretation. I can speed up and slow down my reading when I want, I'm in total control with a paragraph setting. With verse by verse, I have a lot more work to do to get the meaning and context of what is written. Reading prophecy in paragraph layout let what is said flow freer than when broken into verses. Another place where the paragraph is absolutely helpful is in the epistles, especially when one considers that each epistle is actually one single letter, however long or short it might be. I'm having a little battle dicphering between double column or single column paragraph, but I'm learning more toward single column. I just need to find an affordable ESV that fits this desire.
@edwardgraham9443
@edwardgraham9443 2 года назад
@Adam H Well if I could afford to get one it would be the ESV Preaching Bible or the ESV Omega, but the Preaching Bible more so but these are very expensive Bibles, way too expensive for me, it would take me maybe a couple of years to save enough money to get one. If they are available in Trutone covers, I'd take that too.
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
It complements my 1995, 1977, 2020 NASB BIBLES. FOR NOW MY FAVOURITE TRANSLATION. I HAVE 2 NASB 95 BIBLE S IN ALMOST HANDY SIZE IN 12 POINT FONT. Double column. Easier to read for me.
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
THANKS FOR EXPLAINING BASELINE TO BASELINE MEASUREMENT..
@DanS-kh4tc
@DanS-kh4tc Год назад
They have a red letter text available now. I’m to receive one with the blue linen next day or so.
@DanS-kh4tc
@DanS-kh4tc Год назад
Just got it in the mail.
@stephensmythers2961
@stephensmythers2961 2 года назад
Nice review! The map on your desk, is that a mat or is it just a map laid out on your desk? Thanks.
@bertrodgers2420
@bertrodgers2420 Год назад
Thanks Grant! Very insightful as usual, I'm really having difficulty picking a translation to to a full read of next, I currently deciding between NKJV, LSB or NIV (as I've already read through the ESV), would you mind sharing your recommendation or any advice please?
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones Год назад
Thanks for the question, Bert! I think any of them would work well. But as a general rule, I like to take on the hardest job first: So I recommend you read the LSB next.
@bertrodgers2420
@bertrodgers2420 Год назад
@@RGrantJones ha, thanks, that's a good rule to follow. I think I will go for the LSB, cheers!
@alanhowe1455
@alanhowe1455 2 года назад
Trouble is, it's sold out! Another point: do we need yet another translation?
@terencealbertmcbain8041
@terencealbertmcbain8041 2 года назад
Grant, thank you for your review, but it seems like their are some major verses missing and that they do nor know if we actually have God's words because of preservation.
@London-Lad
@London-Lad 2 года назад
Can you please review for us the Anglican BCP 1661, and point out useful texts within it such as The Prayer of Humble Access on page 255 or the 21st Collect for Purity which the lay can say for absolution. You have a scholarly and informative perspective and intuitive knowledge that would be a wealth of information not found on youtube and would be a shame for your viewers not to be able to garner. Kind regards, AJ, UK
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thanks for the recommendation, aj! That's a good idea. I own a relatively new edition, still in print (a large-print burgundy hardcover from Cambridge University Press). I think it's photogenic enough for a video.
@London-Lad
@London-Lad 2 года назад
@@RGrantJones Many thanks for considering my suggestion, it's going to be a video that I'm eager to view 🙏👍
@CAVEDATA
@CAVEDATA 2 года назад
Might you be able to recommend a well made bible for Catholics? Smyth sewn etc? One that isnt progressive in its translation if possible? Thanks so much if you can. Finding it really hard to find one.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
The closest approximation to a premium Bible for Catholics I'm aware of is Schuyler's RSV Quentel. It's in the 1971 RSV, not the RSVCE or the RSV2CE. But it includes all the Deuterocanonical books, along with a few others. Smyth sewn and goatskin cover. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LxICiv-G5JI.html . The Augustine Bible in the ESV-CE is sewn. As far as I can tell, it's available only in paperback and imitation leather, but you could have it rebound. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rp37KfaRoI4.html . If you don't mind using an older Bible, you may be able to find a Jerusalem Bible Reader's Edition in sheepskin. The problem is, it has a tiny font (around 7 points). ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W9WMChIlR0Q.html . Ignatius Press produces an RSV2CE with a sewn binding. The paper is beige and the print isn't very bold. The cover is imitation leather, but it could be rebound. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xhjpMT3-8FQ.html . I created a Catholic Bibles playlist that may be useful to you: ru-vid.com/group/PLdWirNxcjOaspcaRdsvXoXfvYrUGHquob .
@CAVEDATA
@CAVEDATA 2 года назад
@@RGrantJones oh man. What a great answer. Thanks so much for this.
@scotte2213
@scotte2213 2 года назад
In your summary you say you have no issue with translating LORD to Yahweh and with bondservant to slave; after seeing those words/names translated properly I now find myself having a harder time trusting the 95 (and most other english translations) which don't follow the same pattern. Any insights as to why LORD or GOD are rendered instead of Yahweh in prior english translations?
@edhieeeee3
@edhieeeee3 Год назад
LORD is how the new testament authors quoted the old testament, so the translations into English mostly followed that pattern. Bondservant, servant or slave are are contextually appropriate renderings. My wife speaks three languages it can be rough translating especially carrying over or preventing connotations of the words.
@cesaresp101
@cesaresp101 2 года назад
I like the translation a lot but i don't like that they use the masoretic text so much over variants
@Jesus_Saves_66
@Jesus_Saves_66 2 года назад
Hello 👋 so just asking again, would you consider reading the scriptures? Maybe proverbs or Psalms? 🙏
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thanks for asking, God's Child. Yes, I have a cold at the moment, but once that's cleared up, I'll try to record the book of Revelations, as we discussed. I'm not sure whether to post it at this channel or to start a second one.
@Jesus_Saves_66
@Jesus_Saves_66 2 года назад
@@RGrantJones that’s great to know 😆 I’m looking forward to hearing your readings 🙏 I’m sure others will also enjoy it… maybe you can open a second channel? So one is dedicated to Bible reviews and the other to Bible reading 📖 but I hope it’s soon 😆
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
@@Jesus_Saves_66 - Here's the book of Revelation: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7Lp9tTLHYRE.html . Let me know what you think. If it's too loud, I could process it again at a lower volume.
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
Look forward TO 10.5 FONT IN WIDE MARGIN IN SPR8NG 2022. COWHIDE IS MY PREFERRED COVER. FEELS GRIPPY.
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
GREAT REVIEW. I THINK YAHWEH POINTS TO ONE GOD.
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
I LIKE THIS BETTER THAN 2020. VERSIONS. 1995 IS MORE AVAILABLE AND IN MORE STYLES..BIG FONTS.
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
Bolder print WOULD BE NICE. BUT WHITE SPACE MAKES IT READABLE. CAMBRIDGE USES BOLD FONTS . MAKES SMALLER PRINT MORE READABLE.
@stephengilbreath840
@stephengilbreath840 2 года назад
Looks like they used the same format as the preacher's bible
@rowland1023
@rowland1023 2 года назад
It would be better if the LSB just inserted the tetragrammaton "יהוה" with a list of probable pronunciations that follows Biblical Hebrew grammar instead of "Yahweh" in the text. Just my opinion.
@edhieeeee3
@edhieeeee3 Год назад
No taking the Hebrew letters would reduce readability. I think YHWH would have been better. Just my opinion.
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
I like miles in 1995 more than stadia in LSB.
@daveperryman291
@daveperryman291 2 года назад
John the Baptist would have preached better if his leather girdle was goatskin, preferably light grey.
@sergiuskovalski444
@sergiuskovalski444 2 года назад
Hello Grant! How are you? Is it snowing in your place now? By the way, could you review "The October Testament" (it's better to exam a paperback). It's Tyndale's New Testament in modern English from Baruch Publishing House. It's interesting, what is your opinion about quality of this edition's modern English language /I'm not native Eng.speaker/ and covering of the paperback (the hardback is very good there). Imazing, Tyndale's NT (and his OT) is much better, stronger, much more clear and accurate than KJV is (nothing telling about NIV and it's "friends"). KJV and other ENGLISH versions rearrange☝️ passages inside the Scriptures! Tyndale does not...
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thanks for commenting, Taras! No snow here (yet).
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
I will continue NASB 95 UNTIL BIGGER FONTS ARE AVAILABLE IN LSB BOTH ARE MORE CONSERVATIVE AND ACCURATE THAN 2020 NASB. I THINK.
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
I like idea but too small FONT MOSTLY. I UNDERSTAND MACARTHUR USES 1977 WITH END 9F VERSE REFERENCES AND 11 POINT FONT. . IN HANDI SIZE. RED LETTER. 9.5 FONT SEEMS TOO SMALL FOR HIM TOO. .
@thedon978
@thedon978 2 года назад
Catholic or Protestant bible?
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
It's a Protestant Bible.
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 2 года назад
I LIKE BLACK LETTER.
@frankyancy1347
@frankyancy1347 2 года назад
This Handy Size does say in the intro that it DOES HAVE FOOTNOTES, but it does not have footnotes!!! See "Mondern English Usage" in the intro. No where does it say the Handy Size lacks these. Nowhere is this stated.....buyer be warned.
@blubberknuckles
@blubberknuckles 2 года назад
that intro is mostly the standard nasb intro that i have read in certain variants of the nasb that don't include the full notes. However the lsb does have additions in its own intro that make me wonder why they left the information about notes intact.
@OmegaSaiyanPrince
@OmegaSaiyanPrince 6 месяцев назад
So compared to the KJV is this is a faithful and accurate translation to the original text? Followers of Christ should not get misled by poor translations or authors opinions
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 2 года назад
I'm not a fan of single-column verse-by-verse formatting. It feels like I'm looking at a menu.
@RGrantJones
@RGrantJones 2 года назад
Thanks for commenting, M.A. Moreno. Single-column verse-by-verse isn't my favorite by any means, but it seems to be well-liked by NASB readers -- or the publishers think so.
@edwardgraham9443
@edwardgraham9443 2 года назад
Me neither, I much prefer the paragraph format. It actually looks worst than a menu to me and more like a list. It makes whole Bible seem like a concordance to me.
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