The Legend of Vox Machina - Table to Screen - Baroness of Whitestone 

The only thing the animated version couldn’t keep was Travis’ excitement 😂 captain of the perc’ahlia ship forever and always

-dispite your relationship with her, do watch your manners. (PERCY'S BEST QUOTE)

Laura: This is a belt buckle why are handing it to me.... Liam: Shh we are playing pretend.😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

Love both versions, but the animated one serves its purpose better, in my opinion. Percy's goals for bestowing the title were as follows: 1. Let Vex know he has her back. 2. Stick it to Vex's dad. He accomplishes both in both scenarios, but in the animated version, Vex's dad is so much more annoyed, and Vex has the opportunity to return the favor to Percy by then defending him from her father's petty remarks. Therefore, since the father is more bothered, and Percy/Vex's relationship is that much more reinforced, this is the most meaningful outcome for PERCY himself. The game version is also awesome, but it focuses on catharsis for the players who are rewarded for roleplaying in the game well. The game version is less focused on developing the actual characters themselves and is more so a congratulatory concession for Taliesin's cleverness. In the animated series, the players are no longer factors in the experience, so I totally believe the character oriented direction was the correct move. Either way, I'm VERY glad both exist.

There is A LOT of interesting conversations around the adaptation of this moment, I think the change is totally justified, but I also can understand people being a bit upset, because it was one of the more iconic moments from the stream. I think one important difference is that in the show it was the first time (I assume) twins met their father after they left him, in the campaign twins already had their first awful interaction with the dad (granted it was before the stream), so I think it was important for the show to clearly establish just how much of a dick Syldor is (and I remember him being a bit more soft in the campaign) so it would make Vex's conflicted feelings even more interesting. Also in the campaign twins pretty much resolved their arc with the dad with this interaction, but in the show we clearly going to get some kind of resolution later.

And we were all that guy near the front row with his hands over his mouth.

Damn that scene was so impactful in the show I had no idea it was originally performed in front of an audience holy shit!!!

This animated series has a lot of moments of: what the DM wished he would have said, if it wasn't all improvised. But then again, a lot of things actually worked out in the table game.

The most important part of that whole interaction in both the campaign and the show has always been what the title meant for Vex and Percy, not Syldor. Changing his reaction to suit the pacing of the show is totally reasonable and loses nothing in the meaning of the moment.

Animated Percy failed the Deception check.

Lord Grog Stonejaw Strongjaw, Duke of the first house of peanut butter, eater of the crunch, thanks you for your service.

Now get in a canoe.... 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

I love that we don’t get the satisfaction of him amending it. It is a bit of an obvious move

Only thing I didn't care for was the fact her father didn't have to initially choke it down and change it right then..lol.. so much more satisfying than they having to come back again to get it amended.

I wish Syldor was shocked and surprised like in the original. This moment was a big cathartic moment and we didn’t get that in the animation

I always thought Matt Mercer and Troy Baker sounded alike and this only compounds that idea. Thought it was Matt voicing him in my first watch.

The show lessened the impact of what Percy did by having Shalador not be surprised or caught off guard. I'm glad we have the livestream because the show failed to do this moment justice.

I did kinda miss Vex's excitement with the title in the show. In the campaign, she hugs Percy and even kisses him on the cheek. Then when Percy loses memory of giving the title, Vex is visibly upset because she lost a moment between the two of them (later regained). I get not adding the excitement in the show. Made sense she was in a somber mood after confronting her dad. And I liked their moment in the Feywilde. But I do hope we get the see their relationship really bloom so when they get to a certain moment with Percy involving R (👀) and Vex realizes how much she loves him, it'll feel totally earned.

sIGH this makes me miss live shows so much (even though I've never been to one yet

I really don't get why some people are dissatisfied with how they portrayed this scene... it's perfect. The only reason they are disappointed is because there isn't an audience to whoop and holler. This is exactly how it would have played out, their father is a horrible person, and he isn't just going to let them have this moment over him.

Yeah, They made their father more of an asshole, in the game he was just emotionally unavailable and slightly embarrassed by them but you got a sense that he did care in some way but struggled to show that because of his pride and ego which I think was more interesting than him just being an arch token bad guy.

They made him MORE of a dick in the show than in the campaign, I didn’t think that was possible 😂

This was Percy proposing to her.

I forgot this was live. This vid will do well for you (except for the people who think you put a laugh track to CR and drop (like I almost did.))

I wish they'd have kept some semblance of surprise or embarrassment from her father. The dismissal was so unsatisfying 😞

They made much more a point about her father being a total ass in the show, as opposed to the stream, so it made more sense for him to be dismissive. They are trying to set up a 'character growth' moment for Vex, instead of Percy essentially handing it to her in the form of a title. In the show the father completely dismisses her achievements, of which there are many already in the lore (and the show), and I would probably expect to see a "I don't need your approval moment" or "I will help my father no strings attached, unlike you" moment to show this. When you think about it for a moment if his approval had just been given after hearing a title, from a city he's never heard of (or knows is corrupt), it would have been so flat. Why would he have? Who is Percy? What even is Whitestone to him? And why would that title matter? Giving Vex a change to grow and Syldor a chance to come to a realisation, in the face of overwhelming evidence, he was wrong is the right thing to do for the screen imo.

Change I think is a good one adds more weight to the story and tension during the fight with the archfae later on when Vex is under his charm but nice to know daddy dearest wasn’t a complete total dick head in e cmapaign at that point

It is close for me who is the most hated NPC in the CR universe: Syldor or Trent Inkathon

See! It's like reading a book, then watching the movie! The people who played this Wrote it Why are there So many differences!

I was really unsatisfied with her father's reaction in the animated show But it was still really well captured, i was wondering if they'd would animate this iconic moment

The verbal backhand.

Not gonna lie, I wished they saved the bomb later on. I was expecting like either they retreived the bow or maybe after defeating one of the dragons. I'm all for changing a bit from the source material since this just feels a bit non-cathartic.

Having watched the Prime series but not the original campaign, I thought maybe Derolo rolled poorly on a deception check. I liked the campaign one better than the series.

I actually appreciate the change. One weakness from Matt is that the man can't play an unredeemable asshole with a bitter ending. Unless the abusive/cruel/evil parent from the backstory is going to be a central villain (ukatoa/kevdak/ikithon), the relationships all end up repaired and the characters are a lot more chill from how they're introduced. "My father is a hell warlock who murdered a dozen people and tore my family apart and sold me off to slavery..." 20 episodes later, the dad opens the front door, offers them tea and asks how he can apologize for what he did.

I was hoping they'd include the poly machina scene.

I forgot this was during a live show lmao

Unfortunately anyone who just watches the animated series not gonna understand the Grey Hunt part but thats ok.

As a person who never saw the first campaign, but saw this clip many times without the proper context, I was excited to see that scene play out in full and in the end it felt very anticlimactic. I this (and I suspect “my heart belongs to another” line later, because in the show it makes very little sense) indicates a certain weakness with the show - combination of desire to keep all fan-favourite epic moments in the campaign with economical inability to fit the larger context for it. Fans of the campaign would still be excited that its there and people completely new can glance over it, but to someone in my place the mismatch stands out.

Where can i watch the full video of this live session?

liked the campaign version better tbh

Im just sad they cut the content from their little sister. Abbreviated for time.

did he just succeed on the cha roll in the game or was that the main difference between the game and the show? dad's more of an ass but i also like hi int low cha percy he's such a fancy loser

Obviously Percy gets the last laugh in the grand scheme of things (no spoilers) but the one thing Percy's good at is verbal takedowns and we couldn't even get that 🙄

I’m still wondering why LOVM made the choice to add that bullshit from the dad. He was much softer originally and didn’t say anything like that to P at the end. Am I remembering right?

I thought the live audience was added in post

Their trip to the fey wild was really the only thing I didn't like about season 2. This scene in particular, and also I was really hoping they'd animate the moment when Vex and Vax finally stood up to Syldor and Vex talking about pulling his blood from her veins. She still got to say it, but she said it to whats-his-face in the Shademurk, so it didn't hit as hard as it could have.

Why the laugh track?

The only thing I didn't liked it is because, in the animation, their father is just mean for the sake of being mean, while in the show he seems mean because he is to attached to tradition, politics and etiquete. A man like that would not challenge the tittle of a noble in a social visit like that. That's why he amend the document in the show. In the animation he had no reason to act like that. He was mean just for the sake of the character, and it's not a well written thing.

The animated show is so utterly inferior to the campaign in so many moments like this. I really feel sorry for the people who experience the story like this instead of from the D&D campaign. And no, it has nothing to do with changing Syldor's reaction in this moment, but to do with pacing, tone, and impact of the scene. In the original, this is *Percy's moment*. It's not about Vex, or what it means to Vex, or how Syldor reacts. This is a moment that both shows both *Percy's love for Vex* and *his political cunning*. He understands how men like Syldor work, and how fickle their perceptions of others are. That something that PERCY understand to be meaningless - a title - will force someone who takes aristocracy seriously - like Syldor - to change his behaviour, even if just a little. Percy knows he can't give Vex the love of her unloving father, but he can, if just for a brief moment, give her his respect. It is *demanded* by the social rules that Syldor lives by, and he will do it even if begrudgingly, which it clearly is in the original scene. It's a masterful moment and one of Percy's best character moments in the entire show. In the animated series, Percy is made to look like a fool instead. Syldor dismantles him for doing something he calls "beneath him" and it makes it look as though Percy has no idea what he is doing and merely fumbling his way around aristocracy. It makes him look incredibly weak. To make matters worse, Vex immediately then steals the spotlight from Percy, and the moment becomes entirely about her and her father. Percy fades into the background of what was supposed to be HIS scene. The added dialogue is also INCREDIBLY generic and reduces Syldor to a generic "bad dad" and Vex's putdown of him to just saying "you're a bad dad", and the overall pacing of the scene is so fast that we're not even given time, as an audience, to process what Percy has done for Vex, or what it means to either of them. It's cool to see the show brought to life in animated form, but the writing for the show (as in, where they have to adjust things to fit the new format) is abysmally bad. The first series was plagued by this problem as well and it's a shame no lessons were learned for season 2.

Show was better.

Why is there a laugh track......

All I got to say Percy came in clutch for that