Viego: that a nice tree you got there brother, Yoink! (For real tho, dude keep stealing peopke stuff wth, why can't you make your own things like our good man Mordekaiser did smh.)
since his plants actually harms humans, maybe Maokai doesn't care ? like : Viego *take Maokai's plants* Maokai : oh no Viego *uses them against humans* Maokai : so anyways
@@litoflores805 I mean I see your point but he hates viego so much because of what he did, I think his plants being ruined and is Literaly the reason why he even hates humans to begin with
He hates humans because nature got ruined by some pretty human drama (I know Isolde's death is tragic but their life is a fleeting moment compared to a tree's)
Necrit became the historian of Camavor, nice. Might be rad if his character is still somehow alive in lore or he has a whole library in the lost kingdom of Camavor where the characters could somehow find in pursuit of finding the weakness or contents of Viego's ancient sword.
@@todd5640 I really want him to make an appearance when Viego is going to die like the sentinels cornerned him and in the middle of Viego's talking a big metal hand grabs his neck and then Mord will show himself laughing at everyone and then consumes Viego's soul.
According to a voice line from the retired reckoner when he meets the Thorn of the rose, the latter had her form altered. So canonically, female Minotaurs are supposed to look like the ruined Minotaur.
you know what would SUCK if isolde doesnt love Veigo. for story to make sense and stand out be its own story isolde NEEDS to love him but still fight against him because of what he has become and what he has done
@@ethanv.a.t.exclamador4030 if they go with ''oh she never actually loved him'' story everything about The Ruined King Story line just falls flat like any other quote on quote tragic love stories. like that a sterio type that riot doesn't go for
The writer confirmed that she did love Viego. "They were very happy, until they weren't". Isolde did love him, but bc of Viego's selfishness, the relationship started to fray.
Viego kinda threatens the entire runeterra. Watchers want to wipe out entire universe, every single atom in existence. Viego is Ultron, Watchers are Thanos.
Honestly ,they already have a good thing going on, hope they don't screw up. Viego already received some hate from fans who expected Viego to be "big bad overlord", making him an abusive boyfriend would remove any of his redeeming qualities.
Still don't get why people are so upset about his design when we already have Mordekaiser to fill the role of the big evil undead warlord of the shadow Isles, a second one would've been boring as hell. He may not be what everyone was expecting, but I sure am happy with how he turned out lore and design-wise
@@McSandrone I think the part that makes me dislike his design at least is that it doesn't feel very "kingly." He feels very generically edgy and not at all commanding in his kit, personality, or visual design. So it doesn't really feel like he's a "ruined *_king"_* as much as just "ruined Romeo." IMO they also made him *_WAY_* too powerful in lore. This is something I'd expect from the likes of Mordekaiser who's pretty much conquered three worlds by now, not some love sick pretty boy from a cursed island.
@@BoopaKing that's the point, he wasn't supposed to be a king. The appearance of something or someone doesn't measure the things they can do. I mean Look at Veigar , he's very powerful despite looking like an imp cosplaying as a necromancer. Viego's design isn't a problem the problem is how the league community expects things, we never had a context on how the ruined king will look like but people always put their expectations up so high which always ends up in disappointment. Also making look like mordekaiser is even more generic than his current design.
@@zeroace4746 I don't get where you got that he wasn't supposed to be a king from. That's not something I've seen in any discussion regarding Viego. Veigar only _looks_ like a smol boi cosplayer, but everything else about him is spot on for what he's supposed to be: A supremely powerful mage that no one takes seriously. His looks are actually in on the joke. Viego doesn't do that at all. Viego feels like some vigilante or assassin, not a "young ruler" like what was told to us before his reveal.
i really do hope they dont do the "isolde never loved viego" theory i honestly think it takes away from viegos character like as much as he is an evil maniac if he genuinly just wants her back it makes him sympathetic to me like as much as i know what he is doing is wrong it makes me think about what would happen if he actually got her back and she was happy with him, then they leave and be the ruined king and ruined queen of the shadow isles, i think that would be really cool but i dont think that would happen. Just hope isolde actually did love viego and it doesnt turn into a "if i cant have her noone can" story, it would makes viego way less apealing to me.
It’s pretty much already confirmed if you go through the event. Isolde doesn’t want to be captured by Viego, as confirmed by Isolde keeping a tiny piece of herself inside of Senna (even after Viego tried to take it out). I think Isolde prefers to be dead, as it is the one thing keeping her away from Viego.
@@PsychoKilll42 i know that isolde prefers to be dead hence the reason she stabbed him when she was brought back but that doesnt necessarily mean she didnt love him it could just mean that she doesnt love what he has done to get her back i would like that if it was done right i just hope they dont do the cliche she never loved him bit its getting kind of tiring tbh. ( dont mean to sound like an asshole if i do just a geniune thought)
@@OneJokiBoi it’s more the toxic side of the relationship that is the problem for her. While yes, she loved him, his love for her was too much. Viego is the kind of person who, if someone didn’t bow to Isolde as soon as they saw her, he’d bash their head in. At least that’s what the lore makes him sound like.
Honestly, same. I do really hope it’s more of a “I love you but I can’t forgive you for what you’ve done” because that has so much more emotion and feels more compelling. My ideal end would probably be Isolde coming back as a ghost or something, tell Viego to let go of his hate, and let them both die together in peace. I doubt anything like that will happen for game purposes, but I still don’t want it to just be “oh she never loved him”
Wait.. isn't piltover technology centered around using those "Soul crystals" that Skarner's people reside in? If that's so, does this mean that those crystals are being corrupted as well?
I mean, Viego's Black Mist was able to resurrect the Aspect of War that died in Atreus, as shown by Pantheon's ruined skin. If the Harrowing can resurrect a godlike being, then I'm confident that it can ruin the Brackern's inside the crystals.
But the swap bot could be using a synthetic hex crystal, which is different from the original hextech crystals discoveredin Shurima. Synthetic hex crystals DON'T have the souls of the Brackern inside them. If the swap is using a synthetic one, then the Black Mist could just be corrupting the magic inside it.
I feel like the more necrit says isolde didn't love viego the more likely it becomes that riot will go with that, I really hope it isn't the case haha why can't she have loved him and just hate what he became rather than being a demsel for a thousand years
that would mean all the hexteck gems would be corrupted as well as they are all the souls of the dead brankern os in away this could be the way skarner could get his revenge on piltover
@@zileantimekeeper7464 True, but the swap bot could just be using a synthetic hex crystal, which DOES NOT contain the souls of the Brackern. The Harrowing would only corrupt the magic inside it.
@@ayviondenar3461 dont worry by how riot made tresh it mostly will make skarner a sexy guy and yea most likely they forgot about the brankor souls again and they would come up at all even thow there are hundres of dead crystal scorpions in sharima close to pilover and close to the mist where the mist would have gotten to
It's not the case, and Necrit literally just needs to look at Twitter. Jared Rosen has said time and time again 'Isolde loved Viego, he loved her', things were complicated, but that's to be expected. Things are complicated now, too.
@@sovereigncharm288 well it's safe to assume that she probably wasn't as much in love as he was, I don't think she would have commited genocides and ruined her own country if he was the one to die ...
@@MindokInAh Oh, that's definitely a fair assessment, but that's not uncommon in relationships (Differing levels of love, not genocide.) People are also in relationships for different reasons, realistically speaking.
honestly it would suck if isolde didnt love him back like all these years we've known that the ruined king was someone who caused the ruination because of losing his wife. It would ruin his theme of the tragic lover if he was just another abuser to add to the list
not necesarily an abuser, if they go this way they could say that isolde was in love with another man in the village, but as the soon to be king met her, she was, without Viego threatining her, to say yes to a marriage. yes, it may be a kind of abuse, but not because viego wants to hurt her, as necrit says, he maybe shows a lot of love and maybe isolde just doesnt wanted it.
@@raulbrenes778 for his story to work she has to love him back or he did all of this for nothing. A better idea would be Isolde did love him but she could see that he was a shitty king and would push him to do better for his country because she knows what it's like to live as a peasant. But because he only wanted to be with her and not rule she died which makes it double his fault for not listening to her.
Honestly ,they already have a good thing going on, hope they don't screw up. Viego already received some hate from fans who expected Viego to be "big bad overlord", making him an abusive boyfriend would remove any of his redeeming qualities.
I kinda hope, that Isolde loves him and Viego gets an Redemption Arc, where he trys to stop what he have done. I dont want that he is Pure evil and just a greedy little baby, which crys when he dont get what he wants. I mean he said about Himself that he died when isolde died and the ruined king was born after that. So maybe She killed Viego cause she knew that its not him Anymore. That would also Explain why she dont want back to him.
@@rdsasuke1 honestly I talked to a friend about a topic similar to this.... tl;dr in the end. Viego is an undead person, a shadow of who he was, ruined by grief plus the magic waters of the blessed isles and his sword... wraiths have their worst traits/obsessions exponentially pumped, not only canonically in runeterra (as seen in most of blessed isles champions as well as Pyke), but also in the folklore of multiple cultures from our own world. So, yeah, Viego is doing some crazy shit and is trying to forcefully subdue a world that doesn't belong to him because he thinks it's right........ in his crazed, obsessed, grieving undead man head. Meanwhile, Noxus has 3 (Arguably) sane and conscious people assembling legions and armies to trample nations who want none of their violent expansionist bullshit that solely thrives because they think Being Strong Enough to Trample and Eat Kingdoms In Union is Good Because After That we Will See the Strong Survivors as Suitable to become our Equals, Regardless of Whether or Not their Previous Rulers were Bad. I also have a theory that perhaps Viego wasn't as much of a spoiled baby as Riot is trying to make us think he is. The fact his brother was killed, as well as Isolde, forcing a person who was never raised/prepared/meant to become king into a power he seemingly never asked to have makes me feel like there was a bigger power play in Camavor than meets the eye. Necritos apparently wrote that in post Viego era, and history is written by the winners, so ofc Viego would be written as nothing but a crybaby by someone who saw (with help of some propaganda) what the kingdom became in the hands of a more capable ruler, who enjoyed being in power and studied what kings should do. Vlad wasn't the heir either and wound up sold to Darkins, so I'm guessing Viego was also neglected and seen as equally disposable by his family since he wouldnt be first in line wasn't for the fate that met his brother... I think the only thing Viego required to push through a life he despised was the right to be with his beloved.... who was brutally taken from him right before his eyes when his annoying ass life finally took a turn for the best. Idk about y'all but I got ptsd from a part-time job and losing a pet is enough to mess me up. I think I woulda gone as crazy in his shoes too... maybe not murderous-wraith-crazy but probably stuck-in-grief-crazy as he's shown to be in the Sentinels comic. TL:DR: Viego bad? Yeah, but he's bad because he's out of his dang mind. Noxus is much worse imo because they're consciously hurting others for not sharing their beliefs. I also think Viego's brother and Isolde as well as Viego himself could have been victims of a bigger power play/coup taking place in Camavor that is being kept out of our eyes for now. Edit: typos.
@@rdsasuke1 You know Darth Vader ? He killed thousands of people and still got the Redemption arc. They actually Share a lot of things. Both lost the Love of there lifes. And both searched for powers to keep there loved ones alive and both failed. Viego is actually the Darth Vader of League of Legends.
The name Dracula comes from the historic figure Vlad Tepes the Impaler or some times refered to as Vlad Dracula/Dracul which is actually the direct inspiration for Vladimir, Viego's uncle, Viego is inspired himself mostly by the Tristan books since even his wife's name is taken directly from there, Isolde.
In all fairness, dragon wings would still be a references to the Transylvania stereotypes. Dracula means “Son of Dracul,” or more literally, “Son of the Dragon.”
Necrit, I really love that you give us so much content right now. But pls watch you're health! There's so much work and quality in you're videos and i think i speak for all if i say that you also need to have time to lean back and relax. That aside... Noice Video like always! ^^
Now that we know the ability of Arkshan's grappling, I really think that Arkshan will kill Isolde after she will be resurected. Since the last personn she killed was Viego, killing her will resurect him, and so will put an end to the Black Mist
shyvana wasn't locked in the mageseeker building. It makes more sense to the story that she was there fighting back the mist since it was the place the mist was converging on and that she was helping defend it only to be called a monster by vayne causing her to ruin. Also doubt the mageseekers can just lock up the dragonguard leader that has the blessing of J4.
In the canon event, which may not be a reliable source of information, she was locked in the mageseeker compound after the Sentinels beat the mcshit out of her, instead of killing her. Much to Vayne's dismay
I think Shyvana is supposed to be there. The sentinels story shows they locked her back up but this means she was still ruined. The card shows Virgo exiting demacia, not invading, so this is him leaving with the people he claimed..
i think necrit didnt notice (or didnt care xD) that the ruined reckoner is a female minotaur, but a not a skinny one like thorn of the rose , this looks like a great female minotaur to me
either thorn of the rose was so heavily backlashed that they changed it or a good in lore reason i found is that since the black rose is all about being secretive, she was just born skinnier and was able to help in covert missions
@@averonisgaming9023 One of the Retired Reckoner's voicelines towards the Thorn of the Rose was how she is twisted beyond recognition. Perhaps the Thorn did change her body into an attractive, skinnier one to conform to Noxian high class customs which also helps with espionage and the Reckoner criticized her for choosing to look like it. Not only did she throw away her minotaurhood but also chose to be that way and be associated with Noxus which he hates.
I think the quotes of Necritos implies that what Viego really wants, is just to be loved. He loves Isolde so much, but we never seen from her point of view if she loved him back just as much. When someone in a relationship gives you overwhelming love, it's hard to give back the same amount. Even worse sometimes, the person giving so much, wishes to get that much back and can pressure his/her partner. That's maybe the reason why he wants to ressurect Isolde so much, because Viego wants to be loved.
I think it would be so cool to have a game of thrones style show about runterra where there’s stories with a different characters going on all over the place and they all work together to make up a bigger world
Necritos would have a great story in lore, where he escapes the kingdom of Camavor before it gets corrupted, goes on to become a light sentinel and then move to piltover to create the new cereal brand “NecritOs”
I really hope leblanc realizes the threat of the black mist and hailmarie's mordekaiser into the realm of the living as a final last effort. Rly wanna see him chad stride into the shadow isles and show viego who's boss.
I think many people here are making a mistake in what Necrit is saying about Isolde, he IS NOT saing that Isolde never loved Viego just that she may not have been absolutely massively OBSESSED like Viego was.
That female camavor solider looks very good Also it would make sense that Viego has dragon conpect cause isn't him and his kingdom base on King Arthur and Camelot P.s. This story of Viego and Isodle reminds me of Haunted House
Viego is confirmed League Dracula, Dracula himself earned the nick name "The Dragon", He even has parallels to Castlevania dracula even though both (at least for one of them) was used as a reference
Wasn't Vlad Dracul II known as the dragon, while his son became known as the impaler (and became the inspiration for Dracula)? Or was there some actual (non-RL) Dracula stuff I forgot?
@@yvanthepcgamer7993 No, And I can prove this, The only similarities Dracula and Vlad share is that they run off of blood, However if we talk about Castlevania's Dracula the parallels are in your face it hurts, Dracula lost Elizabeth and set his wrath on the village where his wife was burned to the steak, Viego sent the mist through runterra in search of his wife's missing pieces while also setting his wrath wherever he goes, The thing that really kept dracula alive through the whole series was Chaos itself, What keeps Viego running is the mist itself so if we run the timeline what happened to Elizabeth, Although it might be different obviously what happened to Isolde (not burned at the steak) but assassinated or worse, it's just a theory on her behalf and how everything would go from then onwards and let's not get started about the parallels between Lucian, Senna, Saifa and Trevor, although the events themselves are not the same the parallels are indeed there
@@ChrisPhelior The dragon was a second name he earned when he became a member of the order of the dragon, I could make the connection that the iron legion is probably a reference to Vlad's army.
I think riot it keeping the possibility open that there are many more lands on the part of the globe that we can’t see, for future map and lore expansions, so odds are the seas at bilgewater don’t connect straight to the seas of demacia. Even viego’s kingdom is uncharted to the viewer off somewhere to the east of the map we have
I wonder about the mist in Noxus. Doesn't the mist set Mordekaiser free or unleashing him onto runeterra once more. It would be really cool though if riot has Noxus's fall cinematic featuring the return of Mordekaiser but I don't think Mord would want to be Viego lackey he might want go on his own.
Can't wait for mordekaiser to come and get viego under his eternal ruling. Beat him down to assert dominance and then teach him the true powers of the death realm.
Oh by the by. Not sure if anyone went over this yet, but I wonder if the black mist is spreading so far so easily because of a certain type of Yorlde magic. Thought of this after seeing a certain Yordle and hearing about their certain mission.
If most creations are imbued with the essence of the person who crafted them, couldn’t Gwen tell the sentinels about the true nature of Isolde and Viego’s marriage? She does carry with her pieces of Isolde’s essence after all
im calling it now, necritos sailed away from camavor and ended up in valoran and managed to join the sentinels of light since they could use his vauable knowledge
I wonder what will happens when Viego meets Mordkaiser (I wonder if mord will lock viego in his death realm until viego give ups his power to him or absorbs Viego's soul)
I really hope Necritos makes an appearance in the card game. He could be a Camavor scholar that lives in modern day Camavor or he could be a ghost created with the black mist.
To your last point, what if that is shyvannas mother? Isn't shyvanna an orphan who appeared in demacia? Maybe she's from viego's homeland as well, due to dragons? And so maybe she was someone involved with viego's army which hasn't been revealed yet? I hope there's more dragon hybrids, that would be super interesting!
