The Losers Won - Star Wars Is Never Returning 

Andor is the only saving grace but how long until that is corrupted? 🪦

@@undergroundfro9653lmao, how can anyone even stand ANYTHING disney put out? You’re more of a rare breed than the Disney blowhards 😅

About as much hope as captain rhodes had there

Star Wars IS "retuning" ironically...to fit the liberal Disney and Lucasfilm idea of future entertainment. "Return" won't happen because according to Disney and Lucasfilm, the Jedi never really left in the first place.

There will be hope when Disney goes bankrupt, and is forced to sell Lucasfilm to a non-American investor who'll then try to make the franchises PROFITABLE again.

Some say it was their plan from the start,kill SW to prevent it from falling on other studio and competing with Marvel.

Naah, Microsoft can do that just as well. Look at halo and gears of war. Or EA with battlefield, medal of honor, need for speed, mass effect. Sometimes it's just better to let something die gracefully instead of watching it's mangled body shit itself on it's deathbed.

Disney bought a golden goose and put it on a spit roast xD

Now look at the unity engine

It's what happens when you girl boss one of the most popular boys franchise ever. You alienate 80% of your fan base you get what you deserve.

You said taint. 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️

That is very good advice. Thank you.

The tainted must be cleansed in fire. Burn away the Sequel Trilogy, 'Star Wars Resistance', 'The Mandalorian' Season Three, 'Obi-Wan Kenobi', 'Andor', 'Ahsoka'...

Well said

Spot on. I only need the original 3. And Rogue 1.

Except the mandalorian andor Ashoka rouge one and the big tie in movie that's coming

@@ASHEN_ONE_GAMES No, including those. Maaaaaayyyyybe not Rogue One, but I am VERY iffy on that.

What about Andor?

@@tcraigh1 what about it?

'star wars' porn parodies have more love and respect for it than anything di$ney has done or ever will do.

Please up the video quality to 4K60fps!

i had this conversation with my cousin how what me and him grew up watching a decade apart was 5 times more mature then what they have now for 'adults' or 'young adults' like everything these days is so dumbed down it's insane to me.

Even modern shows intended for kids are better than modern shows and movies intended for adults

Batman the Animated Series was brilliant for this. It was gritty and just dark enough and handled all the character's (even the lesser ones) with reverence. It never preached anything to the audience and there were times where Batman could have easily failed. Any modern interpretation can't hold a candle to it, the plot armor is ridiculous.

Yep. They're actual NPC's. Have you seen Grizzy's videos about Disney shills' reactions? Absolutely hilarious!

Yep

NAILED IT @@Antonio-Gransci

Thankfully those morons are a small group with relatively small income.

They don't even use William's score. Its a crime.

I agree. The Prequels would have been so much better if Lucas let someone else direct, and punch up the dialogue. Lucas was always terrible at dialogue, but amazing when it came ti the big picture.

He was much better at dialogue than these Ahsoka showrunners. I think that really says a lot.

​@@01What10 Always? Who wrote Palpatine's monologue in the Senate, "your focus determines your reality", "you were my brother, Anakin", "this is how liberty dies - with thunderous applause", "I am a Jedi, like my father before me"?

@@user-xx6vy9ri8pas Said before that is big stuff where Lukas is good at but small dialogue has problems

@@01What10 Remember, for Attack of the Clones, George enlisted help from Carrie Fisher for dialogue. Princess Leia was responsible for the cringe dialogue.

I've been a Star Wars fan for longer than most of the people whining about the Disney stuff have been alive, and I like it just fine.

​@SomeOrangeCat no one tells you to dislike it. Just like you have your thoughts on the Disney SW, so do we, and a good chunk of us don't like the new SW.

This is depressing, and I do not want to be depressed about Star Wars and Star Trek for the rest of my life! Some original fans and their kids like Rogue One and Andor, so maybe old Star Wars fans and new Star Wars fans share more than you think. I was born in 1998, but my mom still helped me watch all six Star Wars movies before we watched the seventh one.

Not even the nursing home cafeteria biscuits?

@@mars4105 He assumed to speak for ALL OG Star Wars fans. You whiny piss babies speak for yourselves and that's it.

"He Vadered" really does sum it all up, doesn't it?

Yep. I recently found a channel called Grizzy. His videos show me these absolute NPC's reactions and I can't believe it.

I just started watching him to it’s hilarious people like melting down crying over seeing some key jangling trash

@@klxnone1014 Cheers!

They are laughable

Star Wars WAS my childhood....none of these weeping fat snowflakes could have been affected by anything as much the as 5 year old me was seeing that Star Destroyer going on forever on screen back in ol' 77...

Jon Favreau is much better than all of these, probably Disney fucked up BOBF which might be the reason he now doesn't give a fuck about the writing

John tried to do the right thing. His first 2 seasons of Mandalorian were a good start. The constant crap made me not watch andor and make it feel like a waste of time. honestly.. pop culture is dead... culture in the usa is dead... we are a totally decadent nation. EPA is after our race cars and we have zero entertainment anymore.

Don't let YMS hear you say that. Remember what Favreau did with his remake of the Lion King?@@johntheanimator4317

@@tyrannozilla To be fair, that movie was horse dung

@johntheanimator4317 You're probably right Jon wasn't _as bad_ as the others, it's probably just recency bias on my part because Season 3 of Mando was SO FUCKING AWFUL!

Who cares Filoniverse is bad and Star wars canon ends with return of the Jedi.

We are supposed to be satisfied by a Leia name drop by C3PO.

Correct answer is : who gives a shit

Jar Jar Abrams told us why years ago.... when Luke enters the room, he takes over the scene. all their new trash cannot compete--and is exposed as inferior to Lucas's vision. And so they try to kill Lucas's vision.

I mean she did go to Luke just before the show takes place. they showed it in madalorian season 3 or boba fett. I can't remember.

Isn't that how things are done? You hand the reigns of a multi billion dollar IP to a guy that's unproven and still learning on the job. Can't see how that could possibly go wrong.

And its so great for the director in training to have a built in audience that will watch any rubbish they put out, right??? ....right???? ......"where are all the audiences?....."

​@@torq21they are doing the same with Walt Disney's crown jewel, Snow White. They don't even have a story or script, but they already shot it and are re-editing every week depending which bimbo is kissing his ass this week

He really should have been an assistant or bene mentored, and not just given 200 million. Because most people struggle to get $2, and then there's Dave.

Rian Johnson bought every other director a lot of cover. It's going to be hard to out-bad TLJ

You jangled??? Is there new new Star Wars already? Is it full of asexual bossgirls with 0 emotion? Is someone coming back from the dead????

Lucky...

@@Banooneri remember by the time TLJ came out, the reviews were so shit I just assumed it wasn’t worth my time. Maybe I should have watched it once but as far as I’m concerned it’s 1-6 (and I liked rogue one too)

@@047Kenny Yeah, some things Disney has done are good. But it's like finding needles in a haystack.

Same! I saw reviews of TLJ and was like "Why is Leia flying in space like Mary Poppins? Who is this purple-haired bitch and Where is Admiral Akbar!? I'm out! This is stupid!"

Same. It was lowbrow, almost walked out. Sheer dreck.

agreed

I agree with this, except when I realise that if they really cared about Hayden, the Lucasfilm team would have made sure he got more work outside Star Wars. I mean Disney has so much power, all you'd need to do is send an email to a casting director and boom. More work.

​@@rubydoo3307 I mean, he has been in quite a few movies outside of Star Wars since the prequels, usually smaller indie-type flicks but it's not as if he hasn't worked since then. He seems to be doing pretty well for himself, maybe he just prefers to live a quieter life on his farm with his daughter and honestly, with everything he probably went through in the 2000s, I completely respect that if that's the case.

That's true, we should respect the life he wants to live.@@Mpiewizard

They pointed the bow of the ship straight into the New Order/Rey Palpatine iceberg. And then destroyed the controls...

​@@CleverGirlAAHand refused to call for Help...

@@supergaugesicht9981and went with an Axe Through the lifeboats

Yep

False. The prequels ruined the character of Darth Vader by making him an incompetent dipshit. Well, even more incompetent than he already was.

@@davidbowles7281 A. He wasn't Darth Vader then. B. He wasn't incompetent?? He was an intelligent brave child that won a horrific pod race, destroyed a Droid ship, then he grew up and trained becoming legendary and known across the galaxy as a hero, he fought Sith defeating Dooku, thousands of battle droids, became one of the greatest star fighter pilots in the galaxy, RIZZED a Queen, wiped out the Jedi temple, killing Mace Windu, then fought Obi-Wan and almost won. He was the most promising and potential filled young man that accomplished so much but eventually turned to the dark side as he was still overly emotional and these strong feelings were manipulated by the most evil being in the galaxy at the time. C. His character was hotheaded but still had some wisdom and discipline. He was just unconventional due to his insane talent. Everything that occurred was within a reasonable character. D. All of this emphasises he was the chosen one meant to being balance to the force, they show his potential and power, as a hero, then his fall, and it makes the 6th movies ending so much better because you see Anakin really was the chosen one and destroyed the Sith including himself and brought balance to the force ending the story... until disney.

@@thirsty7281 Using the point that he "rizzed" a queen when that is one of the most memed complaints about the prequels is just ironic. "Anakin really was the chosen one and destroyed the Sith including himself and brought balance to the force ending the story... until disney" Sidious also came back in Legends, after Anakin's sacrifice. It's like you people have selective hearing. Legends was canon for its time. And everyone liked it. What makes that one worse is that he came back like 3 or 5 years after ROTJ. They don't waste your time when telling you that Anakin's sacrifice was useless. And they brought him back using the same method and style that Disney Sidious came back with. Yet Disney doing it is the problem. Even after Sidious is killed, there are multiple Sith that emerged after his death in Legends (Lumiya, Krayt, Nihl and more). There's even Darth Caedus, who's basically a discount Anakin Skywalker if he was smarter I don't even like the sequels. But every mf that complains about Disney SW seems to have Alzenheimers because yall forget that Legends had the same issues yet was loved

@@willisstillhere8846 Maybe because they did it better and actually added to the story with better stuff. Not just "somehow Palpatine returned and Rey is now the actual chosen one woo hoo". Also buddy... I've never read Legends and they never got made into movies so how could I have alzheimers if I have no idea what it is about. You just assume everyone knows every book and canonical or non-canonical addition to the franchise? No. That's for nerds. People don't like what Disney did because it was some of the most poorly written stuff in existance. Maybe people liked Legends because it was written well. It's like how people don't mind Darth Maul got brought back in the Clone Wars show because they explained it extensively, showed it had serious consequences, and then proceeded to make him one of the best characters in the show which was awesome even if bringing him back was bs to begin with. You get a pass if you actually do something with it. Not use it to insult the audience.

personally i was underwhelmed by TFA it was a crappy rehash of a new hope, but i kinda let it slide at the time for attempting to introduce star wars to a new audience, but sitting through the last jedi was torture, and i retroactively hate tfa and have had nothing but contempt and disgust for all things disney star wars, never wasted my time with bothering to watch the last one. disney may own the ip but nothing they have made with it is canon to me, star wars will always be everything made before disney bought it

I was there with you pal. I left Force Awakens calling it a load of shit and was moaned at for 'hating everything'. I have long felt vindicated. Sadly I have quite a lot of friends that still really think this star wars stuff is great and watch religiously.

​@@kilajuyI quite liked TFA originally. It took some time for it to hit me that we'd never see the big 3 onscreen together again, but there was still the promise of seeing Luke shine in episode 8. I also handwaved the ANH rehash elements of TFA, hoping that it was acting as a soft reboot of sorts which would introduce new fans to old Star Wars while leaving room for something new & exciting to come after. Boy, was I ever wrong about that.

@@kr00ked1 every once in a while, just to make sure I’m not dreaming, I’ll rewatch the TFA trailer. I remember why people were excited. It appeared promising. But, it was a woke suckfest and I stood by my criticisms. It wasn’t until later after the SW fever subsided that perceptions realigned, and yes, vindication is a great descriptive for that feeling. I’d probably only add ‘grateful’ as well. Grateful people opened their eyes and finally admitted it!

@@toddmcintosh2685 many still won't admit it though...in fact the best I've gotten IRL, from those who were in denial, was a tepid 'yeah they weren't great' years later after loving them when they first came out. Propaganda and goodwill to an IP can be a hell of a drug. It repeated again when the Mandalorian came out. A very, very mediocre show that people inexplicably loved. I still know girls that worship at the altar of baby yoda. 🙄 God help us all. Moving off Star Wars, there's a similar problem with the terrible, terrible, terrible Harry Potter movies (except the 3rd one). It's like the Emperor has no clothes. Good books. Terrible movies.

At least it was ONE, coherent trilogy that invented a lot of positive things for the SW universe.

The prequels were a kick in the nuts from behind. Disney Wars was a kick in the nuts I at least saw coming

@@_eggers I don't know? More like Disney came to you speaking sweet words about the original trilogy and promising you they will bring the same to star wars. Then when your thinking about it, they suddenly kick you in the nuts repeatedly, laughing at you and screaming' The force is Female!'. The Prequels was just Lucas accidently knocking you.

Episode III was awesome, as good as the original movies.

The mandalorian worked at first because it was a complete side story that had little to do with the main events of the films or the cartoons and they should have kept it that way. Then they went for the Star Wars MCU and started mixing things up making a mess.

They do hold a candle to the OT. They even tell a better story than the originals. If it wasn't for the PT, Star wars would just be a good vs evil story with little depth to it.

Speak for yourself the prequels are masterpieces.

Except Rogue One and the final arc of Star Wars: The Clone Wars I would add

The thing is, it is ok to be fans of many eras of Star Wars! I LOVE the OT, I also love ROTS. I may not be in love with the first 2 of the prequels, but that are very important to the story as a whole. Also, those animated shows he bashes are AMAZING! However, the sequel trilogy is utter trash, and at least the first 3 episodes of Ahsoka are trash as well. The other episodes are decent at best. They striped so much personality from the characters. And, even though I am a huge fan of Rebels, there are a LOT of people who never watched it. Filoni is 100% catering to Rebels fans. My mom and I watched all of Rebels and understood a lot of the details, my dad, not at all. The best aspect of Ahsoka is Baylin Skoll! Unfortunately, these episodes will be it for the character given Ray Stevenson's unfortunate death. Sure, they could replace him with a different actor, but they would need to capture lightening in a bottle twice to be able to pull that off

For some reason people can't speak for themselves. I love the prequels. No mixed feelings.

Agreed, loved the show for similar reasons but fit with the established continuity is a bit of a stretch.

Wow didn’t think I’d get hearted by the one and only, what’s up and thanks 😄

@@user-dv5py8ri1y Nice job mate 👍

@@THEDEVIOUSDEATHTROOPER it's 100% a stretch, but they at least tried to keep it at a minimum and kinda succeeded. And I always liked that they had room to play. I'd even say it was weird in the prequels that Anakin never had a padawan as someone that thought he was good enough and wanted to join the jedi council

He only had a supervisory role in it, still, a kids cartoon/ animation is not something that should be the springboard for your shows, which Disney/ Filoni decided it seems. I also don't think Filoni is anywhere near George in writing capability. I did watch the Clone Wars out of curiosity though, it has it's good ideas, but I never got attached to it like most Filoni fans. The cartoon Anakin is very contradictory to Revenge of the Sith.

The movies pre buyout are 100% George, nothing else is.

The belief that the Clone Wars series was 100% a George Lucas story is a common internet fallacy, Lucas famously disagreed on many things about the plot and was straight up not involved in others, such as how he wanted Ahsoka to die (since her existance beyond Episode 3 is utter non-sense) and yet Filoni still kept his OC alive. Clone Wars is NOT a George Lucas story, it's just a bunch of his ideas reshaped by another person, and Filoni's ego has grown so huge his OCs are taking over the actual main characters' spots.

@@Nemesis_T-Type thank you for this, trying to tell Filoni fans this is like debating religion, over a cartoon. They even try hard to clain it's not a "kid show" when back in the 90's, I grew up with way better storytelling and subtle mature themes. It's a kids show and one not created by Lucas. Robot Head's views on prequels i where I disagree with him though.

Or the throne room scene from Return of the Jedi.

So many iconic moments and their favorite scene is Anakin randomly turning Vader and fighting Ahsoka? Why does he even become Vader there? Makes it seem like in the movies he could just snap with ease. Palpatine didn’t need to spend 10-15 years of grooming Anakin and playing both sides for a war. He could just bring in a box of donuts to the Jedi, they all eat them without Anakin, Sheev tells Anakin they didn’t save him one, then boom Anakin’s Vader. It just makes it seem like he could’ve done that because Ahsoka exists. Thank you Disney. You made stuff not matter. As long as it looks cool, then breaking canon’s fine.

Best scene for me - "I am a Jedi, like my father before me."

@@dannik9932well there was also technically that scene in TLJ. But we don’t talk about that God awful movie. 😐

@@Bird_Manukilla Luke only tossed away his lightsaber once. I know naught of this TLJ. Is that some sort of non-fanfic?

You know why TCW still holds up? Because George was still involved. People give Filoni all the credit for that series, but he was just one of many people working with George at the time. I think it's starting to become apparent that he wasn't the apprentice he's made himself out to be in public.

@@ioncewasmikey Yeah, to be honest I don't even know what Filoni even did to make the series, seems like he was more of a hands-off director, which invalidates the entire purpose of having a director.

@witherwolf3316 For Ahsoka, you mean? He's credited as sole writer for every episode and is listed as director for a couple episodes if I remember correctly. He definitely has directing credit on ep5, might have done the premier as well.

Cheers!

lol, very true. I love the AT AT crush, I know i'm in for a good time!

💯

Couldn't agree more

Too bad he's a prequel hater, the original losers who led to Star Wars being owned by Disney. It's why groups like Red Letter Media loved TFA when it came out, they just wanted George to keep redoing the original trilogy.

The EU is the only true Star Wars after Return of the Jedi.

Old school fans should find a place to congregate and continue Old SW on their own. Leave Disney by the wayside and move on. Wouldn't want a future timeline where the Star Wars Trek didn't happen! Or the Star Trek Wars.

Truth!

I appreciate that you called it. EU and not the fake name that the usurpers have given it. It is the EU not legends. The fact that Disney has money does not convince those of us who have loved it for years that it no longer counts as real Star wars. especially after the rancid maggot filled crap that they have served us and called that real Star wars

''If one is to understand the great mystery, one must watch all its aspect. Not just the dogmatic narrow view of a weeb and soyfan.

I'd wager the people praising his appearance in Ahsoka are not the same people who dislike his addition to ROTJ.

Yeah. Even if that kid is Force sensitive, I assumed Ahsoka was on some kind of different plane of existence and shouldn’t be able to hear the fight. Maybe a Jedi master could, but that’s it.

Meh, I feel that analogy would be more complete if you factor in free updates that screw up the core gameplay loop in various ways, making even the base game harder to enjoy. that sameyness can be enjoyable, so long as it has a solid gameplay loop and doesn't get too high on it's own farts.

Same for Leia as well. She's supposed to guide the New Republic which has been formed newly. Why did it turn out to be the same mess as the Old Republic? Why are all the Councillors so dumb ? What is Leia doing to improve the state of the Galaxy, since clearly she's doing nothing

In the next TV show they will have someone explain that Luke was too busy searching the galaxy for students to attend his Jedi academy.

Probably too busy stocking up on green milk and thinking about murdering his own nephew in his sleep cause he had a few bad thoughts.

Because Luke is old, no one wants CGI Luke.

So the New Order can be a thing. Their destruction of the original trilogy will desecrate the entirety of the original series, so fanboys can pretend this was all planned and is some new visionary masterpiece.

Exactly. Filoniverse feel fan made and cheap. Andor is far better than Filoni crap.

I am watching it right now and Wow! It dosent even feel like a Disney StarWars series it is ssooooo different and adult

Andor, even with its slow parts, is miles above any other Disney SW show.

@@kylekatarn5964 The thing is even when the show is slow something is HAPPENING! we get more character developement or more world building etc .

@spaceman2517 Agreed. There could have been a bit of trimming, IMO, but I didn't think it was fatal to the story or character building at all.

Have you seen the stocks for we have reduced Disney to one of their noticeable low points and so we have done more damage to the Disney parasites then ever before and Kathleen Kennedy's legacy will be that of absolute failure.

You didn’t lose, this is an opportunity to walk away from escapism. They simply will not let you escape so it’s time to change the real world. It’s not just Star Wars, it’s the entire media from sports, games, movies, and TV shows. It’s controlled by propagandists who want good ESG scores.

No. It survives in fan projects. There are many fan films in which it still exists. Even the ST is rebooted already.

If the predicted end of world had happened in 2012...

Plastic wide grith toy with very poor glow.

You should really try Ahsoka, though. It´s so exceptionally atrocious, lol. In comparison, even Tremors are fantastic production. LOL

​@DArtelius I keep running into people that suddenly are always talking about Ahsoka 😂 definitely all normies but wow they're insistent it's so good lol

So you're 60?

@@thecaptainfalcon3316 then they are not normies but zombies, lol, since Assoka is unbelievable trash. Even not funny in a bad way...

I feel bad for the younger generations, they get spoonfed a lot of misinformation from woketards and leftoids and femcels and that shapes the way they see the world.

We all have certain point of views and biases. But we have to understand each other. May be Star Wars and Disney will change when the entire world itself is changed. “If it makes you happy, then it's good''

Making it past TLJ is a feat in itself.

@@thisisfyne And I watched that abomination 3 times at the movies. I was hoping to like it better after the first viewing. Safe to say, haven't seen it since.

@@thisisfyneThere is a star wars paradox. I watch it because its star wars but since I watched it, disney thinks I liked it so they make more of it. Hard to break the cycle.

Interesting

which even in the prequek still holds true. Everyone has the force, as the force is the source of all life forms. However, some people can manipulate the force more naturally (same as some people are naturals in some domains). the jedis are just an order composed of a few of those naturals. the sith is another order, and there are other (the nighe sisters, the weird episode in clone wars where jar jar has a gf...)

The Force is the might of Life itseld and the meaning of the universe itself. It's more than some magic system.

The Disney fans are retarded. To be an old Star Wars fan you appreciated the quality of the movies, the mythical meaning of it, and to be a true nerd you would know all the lines and intricate details of the characters, planets and plot lines of the books. Now the old EU has been nuked by Disney, and they are pandering to the cartoon raised kidults, it feels weird to have all that knowledge tossed aside. It feel like us fans of the old material have got the Alderaan treatment lol. Now all you have to do is remark upon how cute Baby Yoda is and how great Ashoka is (which she is not). Literally you just have to repeat back exactly what you see on the screen with fake enthusiasm - 'omg thats thrawn!!!'. The movies deliberately killed off Luke Leia and Han and any offspring to completely erase any meaningful connection to the original films. So there is really no reason to care about Star Wars anymore.

This from the guy who hated Andor.

Filoni has done his role well in Clone Wars. I just think he has become obsessed with the idea of elongating the story and stumbled. Same with Sequel trilogy. It elongates unnecessary even after the Chosen One has fulfilled his destiny.

Ahsoka simps are weird

I've noticed this, too. I think the guy is so obsessed with his characters, that he sold his soul to Kennedy to have them in live action.

Daves smart, he knows the company isnt big on the legacy characters because the execs need something to claim as their own. At the same time he is turning EU material and George's ideas he never got to put in the movies into canon. He really loves Star Wars and is making gallons of lemonade with the giant lemon that Disney has handed him after nearly destroying the franchise with terrible sequels.

Yep

343 defaced Halo, before they made the horrible show. I feel the same about Halo as I do about Diablo, Star Wars or Marvel: I really don't care anymore, and I couldn't be happier.

Me too, at least some of the books are good and a bunch of the lore is, but 343 has sloowly been like Lucasfilm, they even have their own Filoni.

@@Emanon... Halo was the first story I ever truly fell in love with. The first trilogy of books were the first books I ever read for fun... A part of me really believed that the Forerunners were real, part of our ancient history and I wanted somehow to go out and uncover the lost history and solve all the mysteries... That was pretty intense for me as a kid. In a way today I recognize it as a reflection of reality. It was based on the biblical accounts, the Flood, the Ark, the rebirth of civilization, we have lots of that in our real world history, like Atlantis. When I look at actual history I do get the feeling that something similar to it really happened and that this is just a vague retelling of things we know that were long buried in our genetic memory. 343 entered the scene essentially rewriting 99% of all world building and canon. Joseph Statin who was the lead story teller had a plan to end the series in H2, but they didnt have the time to finish, so it was stretched into a trilogy. I saw the original storyboards, and the forerunners were indeed human. This was a major revelation for the Arbiter at the end of the series. But then Statin opted for mystery, because often a fans mind is more entertained with fan theories then knowing the facts. Then a bunch of assholes come in and totally redo everything from scratch and done care. the H3 terminals said that the flood was 'extra-galactic' the forerunners didnt know where it came from. but then they turned around and so bleh, the forerunners made it by betraying the not-forerunners... retards... they were so uncreative that they essentially told the same exact story a second time while shitting on the first...

@@ArgentWolf95 343 rewrote 99% of everything... making the forerunners non human basically eliminated the human covenant war because the prophets realized that humans were living forerunners and how it would descend their whole social order into chaos. so they moved to have all humans killed... you cant change that one little detail without changing ALL HISTORY within a story... and its disgusting that lazy, untalented, unworthy people always get control of things they never earned...

Genndy wars is the only animation worth a damn

Jar Jar, the over reliance on CGI and blue screen and some of the dialogue really holds those movies back. overall I think Star Wars gained more than it lost with the PT. cant say the same about the Disney universe, which continues to alienate its core fanbase and devalue the 6 original movies at every turn

@@martinh1309 I agree . Also , over time Iv grown pretty fond of the whole Sith Lord Jar Jar theory . That should have been a realized thing ! Hahaha .

Same bro

​@@martinh1309 And OMG....Disney is completely directionless.

I took that personally

My wife bought me a Yoda Funko Pop and I had to tell her p!ease no more. At least Yoda has a sculpted head most are just indistinguishable lumps of plastic.

grown men collect 3.75" the heritage scale

God the punk pops... people are just refusing to grow up. I feel both sad for those people, but even more for their parents.

​@@KathleenKennedyFanI think you meant "real men." 😉

Huh? What best moments in cinema have they produced? The line about sand being annoying? Please tell me because I can't stay awake through any of those movies to know.

The hypocrisy is these prequel haters overlook the problems with the original trilogy and deify The Return of the Jedi, but somehow think the prequels are bad. It's no wonder most of them liked TFA when it came out, a New Hope rehash.

​@@marsoh7972 I remember some people loveing Disney for disrespecting and ignoring the prequels. Killing off the Geonosians in Rebels, killing off many characters from Clone Wars. If there something from that era, it had to disappear forever.

​​@@HiddenHandMedia It's not like Anakin ever called Obi-Wan a "stuck up, half-witted, scuffly looking nerf herder."

​​​​​​@@marsoh7972 It just proved that the obsession of those OT super fanboys/George Lucas haters clouded their judgment to the point where they had to look themselves in the mirror and take responsibility for their actions by the end of the sequel trilogy. Whether they want to admit it or not, Jar-Jar Abrams was the ultimate manifestation of who they were; an OT purist who thought that he knew Star Wars better than George Lucas; rejected his outlines and input to give the people what they thought Star Wars should be.

RoTS dragged a bit at the start but then it just got really grim and dirty. The Order 66 scene was one of the best. Return of the Jedi at the time was panned for caring more about Muppets. Even so you still have the scene with Luke, Vader and the Emperor. But they all pale in comparison to the best of the whole lot: Empire

​@@michaelcorbett4236Weren't the "cute teddybears" prepared to eat, what were clearly fellow sapients?

@@hellacoorinna9995 Yeah I think that was in the movie. At the time though and for some years after the Ewok silliness bits grated on a lot of people. But then it was a kids movie.

4-5-3-6-2-1 is my order of best to worst Jar jar…

Perhaps because it's the last movie he made! Original Trilogy is a much simpler yet truthful story for a simpler times. I love them both trilogy equally.

They even showed Ahsoka helping Luke building a school...

then they are just following the EU and they need new actors for all those character. That is messy and would have been fine over time but noo they need "Rey Sue". There own Luke. The Mandalorian proves they could have told new Star Wars stories it doesn't have to be prefect it just has to be good without ruining old characters.

@@129das And then Mandalorian ruined Luke, Boba Fett, Bo-Katan...

Well yeah? Basically no one had contact with Luke in that time period, Thrawn was beaten when Luke was like 9, and he had no proof Thrawn was still alive, I’m sure had Thrawn returned Luke would have come to save the others and stuff.

@@BarneyisJehova Um, what? Thrawn is registering as a threat and is said to be by Ahsoka, the only other Jedi around who has been shown to be in contact with him. Your argument is ridiculous. Luke would have every reason to be involved. You could argue he shouldn’t go outside the galaxy (as stupid as that idea is by itself; the Star Wars galaxy is plenty big), but before then, there’s no reason for him to not be helping prevent a major threat from returning. Your argument also shows the general problem with the show. Thrawn doesn’t come across as a big threat because he’s not done much in Disney Star Wars, whereas in the EU where he originated, he was well known for being competent and proves it really quickly. That doesn’t justify Luke not helping (since the person that would be saying Thrawn is dangerous is Ahsoka), but it does show that the whole story is more than a bit contradictory.

Dang. Nice catch. I thought that whole lightsaber duel scene was weird.

Jumper was pretty fun. Fun concept

Jumper was great. Sad it didn't do well enough to have sequels in this age of milking cows pdow00d has dissolved itself.

What exactly should have been executed better and how?

@@Willowy13 they had a short lived tv show, but it was awful.

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p for that, I'll refer you to red letter media's criticisms. For me, I haven’t really watched this movie too much. It doesn’t really hold up for repeat viewing.

Yep.

Dave filoni too

For the damage she did, I'd say she is the Merkel of Star Wars. Angela Merkel destroyed the whole Europe.

@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 'Dave Crony'

Wow

What is wrong with Christensen being back?

@@GameWiz2428 Jangling keys.

@@GameWiz2428 It’s not about Anakin, it’s about Kennedy. She was so against prequels. Then her trash came out and they began milking George’s ideas whilst still pretending to hate them.

@@matthewjh138 First, don’t respond 10 times. Second, I can’t post website links on RU-vid. You are a content creator. You should know the rules. Third, do your own research. I am not writing a doctorate for you. I don’t need to site my sources on a RU-vid comment. My time is valuable. Don’t waste my time. Fourth, she said it several times in 2015 and 2016. Rumors of cameos started circulating about Han Solo and Anakin returning for Rogue One. She said he will never be returning BECAUSE they wanted NEW characters. In 2022, she backtracked and stated it was a tough decision, but she decided to bring back Hayden for Anakin for the Obi Wan series. Fifth, your lack of knowledge in these facts is not my problem. If you cannot find this information, it’s not my fault. Sixth, piss off and go watch you little pony videos. Stop spamming comments.

this is what's so hard to understand. 90% of their movie fans has never seen or heard about Ahsoka or TCW, so it makes absolutely no sense to make the people who grew up watching the Clone Wars (people born after 2003-04) their main demographic to pander to. and the ratings show it. also doesn't help that they've already tried to alienate most of their fans by pandering to a female audience, an audience that has never cared about Star Wars

Nah man, they already massively shit the bed with TFA. JJ Hackbrams only had to make a road map for 3 movies. He's like Midas, but instead it's beloved franchises that turn to shit.

I didn't mention George referencing other films. "Objectively" hasn't got a place in this conversation

​​​@@RobotHeadYou did say though there's no gold for fans of film. I took this to mean things like references to other films and the layers behind them. There's a lot of depth and layers behind the Prequels as there's a lot of influence from history, religion, mythology, and more. They like the Originals aren't your typical 'blockbuster' of the time. Nevertheless we do agree the Disney stuff is bantha fodder. Haha

Nailed it right on the head, pal.

whats member berries? I think I can guess what key jangling is..

Same

I love it when Vader, Vader's all over the place.

He Vadered!!!!! -some Disney shill lady (I don't know her name)

@@GREENHOUSE_LIGHTSHOW I loved it when Vader made his entrance and said its Vading time and just vadered all over the place. I clapped and cried when the sexy alien padawan, never mentioned or alluded to in the Star Wars saga took a central and integral role in this universe and replaced the OTs main characters place.