The Making of the 2022 Subaru BRZ® 

Yeah that thing fell flat, HARD

Amen

Lol right !

They did.

@@travisrose2277 you gotta stay true to the driving enthusiast front engine rear wheel drive high Erving naturally aspirated engine no nonsense interior just what is useful and top with the 6 speed manual trully a legend of a car

was looking for this comment

Just dont track the vehicle....spirited public roads no problem with oil pressure

@@tone3560exactly. people thinking they are race car drivers acting like they are gonna take first place in whatever the fk race they imagine taking part of. just drive the car on your roads and have fun. its amazing. got to find something to hate on I guess

Agreed a lot of what people complain about is 1st world problems and minuscule inconveniences decades ago wouldn't have even came to fruition. In essence it is repulsive and disgusting people need a new hobby. @@thatanimator2724

@@thatanimator2724you do realize the Toyota model offered 1 year HPDE experience and advertised it to be on a track right? So it would be logical to expect an oiling issue seen on track..to be handled at a manufacturer level. But yes for the streets it is probably just fine

You're one of the lucky ones my friend

I don't know if they have oil squirters like every other car in the world nowadays but if they don't that is probably why they blow up

The car is fine for daily driving

@@growingup4487 Yup that's true. I think most of the issues are being caused by money shifting. But who really knows.

​@@CrazyCat229 its well documented that right turns at speed (especially right turns involving elevation change) cause the oil pressure to drop significantly. Footage shows oil pressure dropping from 60 PSI all the way down to pressures in the 20's. It seems every FA24 engine has this issue, it's scary and crazy they're shipping "cars great for the track" with an issue like this that can easily result in catastrophic failure.

Was the point of my comment.

This car only rival is the mx5 and no turbo 4banger will drive like a true sports car.

I think they did, that's why their race team BRZ(GT300) use an EJ engine.

@@Align700nitro I hope that is rule book related and not oil system design related.

@@MarkJCarruthers I sure hope so too, coincidently, the toyota GR86 race car also uses a 2UZ-FE engine. So both teams ditched the FA motor.

@@Align700nitrothe GT300 car has always used a EJ. All Subaru race cars use EJ20 (WRC cars, the GT300 cars, their Nürburgring attempt cars, their endurance race cars, their isle of man car, the US rally cars, etc) because it's the best engine for race applications. The platform has the most R&D and mass money already invested behind it. The parts, supply chains, R&D, etc is already there, and it's already race proven. These are highly specialist EJ engines, built for the sole purpose of racing. The other engines they use are EJ2.3 etc for some of the US cars that Vermont have made also, for hoonigan etc. Like I said, EJ platform has like 30 years behind it (including in professional motorsport). The FA platform stock vs stock is a better engine, but the EJ is better to build for legitimate race applications and always will be, since cars are moving away from petrol. So the poor FA will never get the same chance and racing investment behind it that the EJ did.

Whose Mike? Do you get about the same mileage as your 1st gen? Brz owner here and looking forward to some day buy the new one. Cheers

@@saulespino2510 c’mon, typo/autocorrect LOL **Can’t wait to drive mile after mile. I think the old one had better mileage. I don’t baby the car too much has wise so I average about 20.5mpg. The car feels great but some people are losing engines. Maybe wait til they figure out why right handers are dropping oil pressure into the 20 range.

@@ryanrebensdorf5116yes on the right hander question! This engine was designed for cars less likely to take higher g-loads… This should be addressed with at least SPT parts for track driving!?! More ideally a redesign and recall for oiling properly under spirited driving conditions- the intended use of BRZ’s and 86’s.

@@ScottoGrotto absolutely! There was a statement made by Subaru about them standing by this engine as it’s in use in thousands of vehicles across their lineup. However, like you pointed out, I don’t think they considered the application in the 86/BRZ situation. There’s no way they could have. From what I’ve seen, even the baffles aren’t working. It seems like a design flaw that should be addressed. It sucks to live with the thought of this car having an engine failure as a current owner.

Don’t foresters have turbo? Cause my dad’s forester had a turbo

@@smileypaper5589 Subaru only offered the turbo option on the 1st & 2nd Gen Foresters, not the 3rd.

@@chrisb9478 there is definitely more than 3 generations of foresters...

Yeah, Teddy’s right. I think Gen1-3 offered Turbo. 4 & 5 do not. Although Japan has a new 1.8Turbo in theirs.

same here

I keep losing my mind thinking I haven’t watched it when this video keeps appearing on my feed

The engine is fine, you guys just love to complain about the nothing. It's literally .00001% of the new BRZs that have dealt with any engine failures.

​@@moldyrefrigerator you're *literally* making up statistics. There are less than 10k 2nd-gen BRZ sales. Considering there has been 1+ reported failures, it is *literally* impossible for only ".00001% of the new BRZs that have dealt with any engine failures"

Agreed. Cost of the s2k aside, at this point, the only major benefit of the s2k over this new brz is that its a convertible but if you are a performance/track guy, you wouldn't want a convertible's body flex so thats mainly a preference thing. The other minor benefit(some will argue that its major but this is from a stock-to-stock perspective as modified cars have too many variables) and that is: S2K has a more reliable factory engine still, the RTV issue is still present but apparently not as bad as the 1st gen and engine oil starvation issues. But im sure that if subaru/toyota doesn't fix it soon, the aftermarket will(and do it better im sure).

You''re pretty accurate in your estimation 😬

Something was lost in TRANSLATION lol

Their math is backwards. Up from 151 to 184 is 21.85%. If it went down from 184 to 151is a reduction of 17.93% Hopefully it wasnt the engineers that did that math..!!

They were saving that for the next video!

Probably not, it has STI baffling unlike the production car, where it is near impossible to turn right without issues

300, just a guess

Probably not much more then the old one since it’s the same engine with a bit longer stroke.

Oil starvation?

@@SK-tr1wo Yes, significant oil pressure drop in sustained high G RH turn.

Getting there is going to be so easy with basic mods this time around though so they have that going for it

Wont even need 300 honestly. These engines with the high compression and cam profile they have dont really make big numbers with boost anyways. It just makes them a time bomb. E85 tune with some intake and exhaust mods this car will make 250 to the wheels, which I guess is actually pretty close to 300 at the crank. Early dynos show they make about 210 to wheels as is, so they are clearly under rated.

@@boost331 these won’t blow though the rods pistons and walls are twice as thick in the FA24 than they were in the FA24

@@S.E.T.4Life The boosted ones are in the ascent and outback. Doesnt mean the NA ones are.

@@boost331 it is watch engineering explained’s video on it

I was thinking the same thing? Why are they doing this? It was fine the second time but again??

@@A52_E92 In one of the previous versions they incorrectly said that torque is up 15% at 4:58. Now they say it's up 18%... ALSO INCORRECTLY :D

@@TimurIskhodzhanov oh lol. That explains it, but still kinda makes me want to leave a dislike even more now 😅 I won't. Just not getting my like this time

find crashed Ascent and pull header and turbo and tune it lol. because cost and position I don't they are going to do it. That's what STi does.

It will be $50K and you will complain about the price and you will not buy it. That's the truth.

@@mjor6406 You're so sure of yourself. I've had 3 STI's. Wouldn't do without the turbo.

@@barcrrt850 sti is a sedan 400 lbs more than the brz and AWD. You wouldn't be able to handle a 300+ hp rwd 2780 lbs sports car.

@@mjor6406 You know nothing about me. But you love to run your mouth. People like you get into trouble with other people. I do not like you one single bit. Find a lake you are comfortable with, and jump in it.

Sobs in rear end of 2022 WRX

Nah I think it’s great, I like the kinda “blank slate” look they went for. Leaves room for people like you that want a more aggressive look 🤷‍♂️

That doesn’t sound like a bad thing tho

Not quite. Toyota provided most of the funding, the port+direct injection system, and did most of the styling (and a Toyota supplier did the transmission). The vast majority of the critical components (engine, suspension layout, chassis) was done by Subaru's engineers. The suspension is heavily related to the Impreza WRX.

Lol you just don't get it. 🤣

😂😂😂

It was designed and engineered by Toyota you DF.

@@mjor6406 @Trace it's the other way around. Toyota provided most of the financing, styling (or at least major hardpoints like silhouette, windshield points, etc), the dual port+direct injection system, and a Toyota supplier provided the RWD-only transmission. The other major components, which are more responsible for what the car *is*, i.e. chassis, suspension, engine, were all Subaru.

@@jsquared1013 lol Toyota designed the chassis and the injectors. They presented the car to Subaru but Subaru wanted it to be AWD. Toyota said no. We want it rwd. So when the car was done Subaru people couldn't believe how good it handled.

@@mjor6406 subaru did the chassis

@@Jez4prez1 Toyota designed everything. Subaru built the car.

It does not use the fa20 anymore