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The Martez Grudge Against The Jedi Is Dumb | Writers React to TCW S7E7 

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Rafa and Trace's beef with the Jedi still makes no sense and Ahsoka's still an insufferable, selfish b*tch.
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@mr.finesser6303
@mr.finesser6303 4 месяца назад
Ahsoka: "you can't profit off of suffering" The Kaminoins with the clone program: ...
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 4 месяца назад
Oof, that comparison never occurred to me, but it's another example of Ahsoka's hypocrisy. She literally never criticized the Kaminoan cloners or the Jedi's use of the clones. Ugh 🤦‍♀
@mr.finesser6303
@mr.finesser6303 4 месяца назад
@@imyouralibi6208 exactly Ahsoka fought in a war where the Republic profited and then helped Bo Katan profit off war and suffering by deposing Maul as Bo Katan in novels killed surrending unarmed and unarmored foundlings and never calls Bo Katan out on it you're so right about her morals changing either each scene or for the plot
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 4 месяца назад
@@mr.finesser6303 "Bo Katan in novels killed surrending unarmed and unarmored foundlings" It is absolutely mind-boggling that Filoni thought he could just suddenly paint Bo as a hero without ever addressing the absolutely *horrible* things she's done. That is literally the equivalent of trying to paint Anakin as a hero after he killed younglings. It's beyond twisted.
@mr.finesser6303
@mr.finesser6303 4 месяца назад
@@imyouralibi6208 yep Filoni is an idiot that breaks his own canon and novels he's a bad writer the sad thing is even in his own show the mandalorian Bo Katan was responsible for losing the dark saber to Moff Gideon and having the home world of mandalore destroyed with Ahsoka being just as morally bankrupt for supporting her as she gives Din Jarin Ahsoka s location after she used him
@hehu4025
@hehu4025 5 месяцев назад
I think a stronger argument for the death of the Martez sisters would be that Luminara abandoned them and never returned to check if they needed any help. Plus, the Jedi indirectly caused Cad Bane to shoot and put everyone's lives at risk. From the perspective of a witness to such events, this argument would be good, especially since it's personal. Unfortunately, it wasn't emphasized well.
@russianoverkill3715
@russianoverkill3715 4 месяца назад
It's not just Martez' grudge, Dave Filoni himself for some reason creates all this hаte for jedi among the fans, remember when Ahsoka was accussed of tеrrоrist attack, even though she was at the battle, yeah it's Dave trying to bend reality for his own agenda against jedi.
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 4 месяца назад
Yep, and we saw more of the same in his Tales of Jedi series. The most frustrating part is that fans fall for it hook, line, and sinker and help spread this bizarre notion of the Jedi, smh
@JDog2656
@JDog2656 4 месяца назад
It does seem like he’s trying to exacerbate their flaws in a way that I don’t believe we’re initially intended in the movies. Some flaws are fine, but it does seem like they are going above and beyond to make them worse beyond basic logic. Granted part of the prequel hate is that characters like Anakin were not fleshed out enough, so that’s part of it. But yeah it does seem like he was pushing the writing far more than necessary. In the case of S7 that’s mostly Disney writing, but the rest was long before any of today’s garbage influenced it.
@JDog2656
@JDog2656 4 месяца назад
@@imyouralibi6208well they just released the trailer for Tales of the Empire with Barris Offee, so buckle up
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 4 месяца назад
@@JDog2656 Yup, I saw that. As if Filoni didn't ruin Barriss' character enough by turning her into a terrorist, now he's going to turn her into an Inquisitor 🙄
@russianoverkill3715
@russianoverkill3715 4 месяца назад
@@imyouralibi6208 look how they massacred my muslim coded girl😭
@MrSupertallblackman
@MrSupertallblackman 5 месяцев назад
A great question that should be asked more is "what exactly do you want the jedi to do?" When exactly did the jedi become the galaxies social workers? They're responsible for every horrible thing that happens to people?
@jelanispencer584
@jelanispencer584 5 месяцев назад
No, keep on going because I am low-key watching this video that’s you are explaining how Luminara character is because I want to thank you for that because I was low-key confused about this hate train 🚂 between Luminara in it tho because she was my favorite when I lay my eyes on her at season one of the clone wars
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, it confuses me too sometimes. TCW fans seem to have a bizarrely twisted memory of this show and the characters in it; they'll recall things that never happened but completely forget about things that did. And because of that, fan perceptions of the characters are so off base.
@jelanispencer584
@jelanispencer584 4 месяца назад
@@imyouralibi6208 yeah which I totally agree 👍🏾 with that
@JDog2656
@JDog2656 4 месяца назад
Well in the case of that episode with Anakin I would think it’s a 2 sided issue. On the one hand yes, Anakin does hold onto people too tightly and that is part of his problem. However, Luminara is indicative of one of the Jedi’s flaws that they were too quick to forgo attachments to the point that they were detached from everyone else. Anakin held onto hope that they were alive and didn’t want to give up on them, whereas Luminara was quick to accept their death. This does seem rather cold and detached to some, and if it was up to her would have resulted in abandoning them. It’s a thin line, but it does mean the difference between life and death. Like how Luke did not give up on Anakin
@jeezed2950
@jeezed2950 5 месяцев назад
I've been looking forward to this...
@jeremyallen5974
@jeremyallen5974 5 месяцев назад
The Clone Wars is one of those shows that seemed decent upon the first watch but repeated viewings bring all the annoying deviations to the surface
@bluedolphin291
@bluedolphin291 5 месяцев назад
Perfectly said
@DeerBoy736
@DeerBoy736 5 месяцев назад
Luminara-jedi. That's it. That's all the reason Filoni needs to trash on a character who's not even his.
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 5 месяцев назад
Apparently so 😞
@mariusmaximus2072
@mariusmaximus2072 4 месяца назад
Great review once again :3 These reactions really show what is wrong with Filoni and Star Wars writing, especially Filoni's golden goose All these facts are presented in a very entertaining and highly informative package Keep up the good work!💙
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 4 месяца назад
Will do! And thank you so much for the support! 🥰
@Tehillim29
@Tehillim29 5 месяцев назад
Ahsoka Tano sure is selfish like a Sith
@nutbutterlover1040
@nutbutterlover1040 5 месяцев назад
But it's okay when she does it - Ahsoka fans, probably...
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 5 месяцев назад
@@nutbutterlover1040 Lmao!! Yeah, that's accurate 😂
@vaggos2003
@vaggos2003 5 месяцев назад
Huh, did our previous conversation inspire this video? If so, then, you're welcome, I guess.
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 5 месяцев назад
Which conversation are you referring to? Because if it was recent, then I'm afraid not, lol. This reaction was recorded several months ago.
@vaggos2003
@vaggos2003 5 месяцев назад
​@@imyouralibi6208We had a comment discussion under your exactly previous video where Luminara was briefly mentioned. Although, judging by your statement, it was just a coincidence.
@BlueSniper-nv2tx
@BlueSniper-nv2tx 5 месяцев назад
I gotta know something. Did George Lucas create and write the Clone Wars 2008 series, or was it Filoni?
@bravestraven4650
@bravestraven4650 5 месяцев назад
Apparently George just pitched the ideas. It was Filoni that was in charge of executing those ideas. So TCW is Filoni’s show.
@BlueSniper-nv2tx
@BlueSniper-nv2tx 5 месяцев назад
@@bravestraven4650 Thank you so much for that response. Everyone keep saying that George Lucas is the "Creator" of the Clone Wars 2008 series. But something just didn't seem right about that. Anakin never had an apprentice, till they retcon the whole narrative. Anyways, I agree with ya. TCW-08 series is Filoni's show.
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 5 месяцев назад
@@BlueSniper-nv2tx George is officially credited as the creator of the series, even though, as bravestraven said, he basically just pitched ideas (and also bankrolled the series), something which Filoni himself confirmed. Not to mention, he grew increasingly hands-off as the series progressed. Unfortunately tho, the creation of Ahsoka was George's idea (though again, the final result was clearly Filoni's).
@BlueSniper-nv2tx
@BlueSniper-nv2tx 5 месяцев назад
@@imyouralibi6208 Thanks A-Sisters. That gives a lot of clarity on the subject.
@auditect950
@auditect950 5 месяцев назад
Okay, theory time! Rafa secretly has a crush on Luminara - that's why her description of her sounds like something out of a love letter, and she stays away from the Jedi because she's really shy. But for real, I think the fandom makes the mistake of taking everything Rafa says for granted - not that I think she has a reason to deliberately lie here, but due to her being angry about losing her parents, it's possible she may be misremembering things.
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 5 месяцев назад
I suppose that's possible 🤔
@ECSOrder66
@ECSOrder66 5 месяцев назад
Outside universe, this explanation is completely valid, but we need this to be shown or told (I'll take either at this point) that this IS what is happening in-universe. Even something simple like "Forgive me if I misremember a few details"
@imyouralibi6208
@imyouralibi6208 5 месяцев назад
@@ECSOrder66 Or maybe even having Trace correct Rafa. Or have Rafa realize/admit later that she misremembered.
@ECSOrder66
@ECSOrder66 5 месяцев назад
@@imyouralibi6208 That works too!
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