The Mazemakers of Lorath/ ASOIAF Theory 

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Tiny overlooked Lorath character fact that no one calls attention to: The speech pattern of Jaquen Hagar is Lorathi but only the Lorathi nobility, who pay tribute to the blind religion that took up residence in the maze maker ruins. This means that if Jaquen Hagar is the “real” face of that faceless man, he is a noble... like Arya. And perhaps the house of black and white chooses nobles as acolytes. However, if Jaquen Hagar is not that faceless man’s real face, then this is the face of a Lorathi noble the house of black and white assassinated and took his face. I just think it’s interesting that no one calls attention to the fact that the world of ice and fire dropped the information Jaquen’s 3rd person esc speech pattern of referring to himself as “a man” instead of “i” or “myself” and others like arya as “A girl” instead of “you” or “she” ... is only a Lorathi nobility practice, rather than a common Lorathi style of speech. And as far as I know he is the only Lorathi character in ASOIAF is Jaquen .... so this is almost deliberately giving us the information about Jaquen specifically , letting us know that it’s somewhat important to note that he is nobility

The maze structures also point back to the Minoan Civilisation of Crete, whose palaces inspired the later legend of the Labyrinth of King Minos, where the Minotaur of Crete was housed, and to the large structures of the contemporary Mycenaean Civilisation whose huge palaces were so large later Greeks imagined that they had to have been built by giant cyclopes rather than ordinary men

Omg when Dany is in the House of the Undying, she has to take a right every time, which is literally how you're supposed to solve mazes in real life...

This is brilliant - the Fisher Queens marrying into the Great Empire, it explains how both major features (maze, fused stone) appeared in the base of the Hightower. A maze as a connection to the Old Ones and the Fisher Queens, but built with fused stone via dragonriders from the Great Empire. (The maze in Lorath is blocks, not fused stone.)

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This video legit blew my mind. Love the Lovecraft tie-ins and I am getting so so curious about the oldtown/ Euron plotting in winds.

I was watching a SciShow video on Doggerland - an area of land that used to connect England to the European mainland until it was flooded. This immediately reminded me of the broken arm of Dorne. Doggerland flooded suddenly when the ice containing a great inland lake on North America fell away. I wonder if the disappearance of the Silver Sea is tied to the hammer of the waters.

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In Deep Geek gave you the credit for the most enlightening and complete take on your "Origin of Dragons" videos. My favorite too! Keep up the good work!

Normal ASOIAF reader/Casual GoT watcher: ASOIAF is deep but not that deep Me, having for years followe d channels like the Disputed Lands, Preston Jacobs, the Order of the Greenhand, LmL, Quinn's Ideas etc: Oh, my sweet Summer Child

When I think the lore of A Song of Ice and Fire is already deep enough, you my dear come up and blow my mind once more.

Another amazing video! Well done, you make so many great connections that don't seem obvious but then when you lay it out I think "of course! How did I not see it?" This one definitely deserves a second, third, and fourth watch.

I love that your long format videos are not livestreams. Makes it so good and not distracting at all. Chef's kiss.

An interesting fact about Leng is that it's hone to two peculiar species of ape. One small and clever as a man, one gigantic but peaceful. I've always wondered if these were the progenitors of the COTF and the giants, and that if our "master race" that originated in Leng is not the result of an admixture between the three species: men, children of the forest, and giants.

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Awesome video. So much insight into the Empire of the dawn and now with this connection with the Fisher queens it makes even more sense that oldtown was an outpost of a seafaring civilization. And the mazes, nice.

This ties up so many loose ends. Well done.

that euron nod at the end was a real tease!

Noonas is equivalent to Nuadh who was the Tuath deDannan (equivalent to the Children). He had a magic sword known as the sword of light. He is killed by Balor of the Evil Eye (who is similar to Euron) who in turn is slain by Lugh (who possesses a magical hound).

Our brothers and our bane. The children and the giants. The First Men and the children. The Northmen The First Men and the Andals. The Lorathi and the Ibeneese. The Amerhyst Empress and the Bloodstone Emperor. Gareth Greenhand & the Drowned God. Renly & Stannis. The Sea & Storm Gods.

The Dosh Khaleen seems to be the the legacy of the Fisher Queens as well! A reminecense of a matriarchy.

This jus blew my mind i looked deep into the fisher queens last year and concluded they were the progenitors of the rhoynish but this is amazing and well put together the biggest trigger for me id the blindness opening the third eye when the kindly man blinds arya and she wargs the cat i believe that was his intention jaqen also wargs a dog in harrenhal and says he gave it basilisk blood which unless he can magicall hide items like the coin would be impossible for some one who was just a prisoner then recruited as a soldier he would be searched for sure and basilisk only exist in westeros within the neck

Great video but U forgot 1 maze, the 1 under the Great Pyramid of Meereen where Dany chained up her dragons Rhaegal and Viserion.

Another amazing video, Amanda. 😀 You don't put out a huge quantity of videos but your quality of videos is among the highest of the entire ASOIAF community. Keep up the good work. 👍👏

The crypt of Winterfell are also maze like and so are all the hollow hills and weirwood caves in Westeros. And they are everywhere!

I dont know if it's already said or discussed (recently discovered this channel), but could the Andals not have been related or something to the Sarnori or the mazemakers? I think that Huhzor and Hugo as names for legendary first kings are a bit to similar. The facts that they originate of the Axe (which lie somewhere in between Lorath and Sarnath), their first king of Sarnor Huhzor Amai assimilated the Zoqora, who are described as pale haired (Andals?), the fact both the Andals and Sarnori fought against the Hairy Men. Could be a stretch, but I think it's a maybe worth a look.

WE OUT HERE Gahh George is apparently getting ever closer to finishing Winds, I gotta brush up on my theories

At. Last. It finally all makes sense. You have finally answered my most burning questions. I think that I've finally got to the bottom level of the mythology.This was the missing piece. I am forever in your debt.

Giant men that used black stone(shade of the evening wood).Which means they probably had relations with the woods walkers.was it just the essos version of the alliance of children and the giants?if so,by the looks that the lorathi blocks are black stone,would it be far fetched to say that the wall might actually be werewood(with an added ice glamour,if melisandre can do it,others can too.otherwise why would it ever stop the others?

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Nefer -nine tenth under grund! From Wiki of Ice and Fire: Nefer, referred to by travelers as the Secret City, is the capital of N'ghai, and the kingdom's last remaining city. Nefer enjoys a sinister reputation as a haunt of necromancers and torturers. Nefer is a port city located in the Further East of Essos, at the mouth of a river which ends into the Shivering Sea. North of Nefer are the Thousand Islands, while south of the city lie the Plains of the Jogos Nhai, the Bleeding Sea, and the Cannibal Sands. To the east stretch the remnants of the kingdom of N'ghai and the forests of Mossovy. Nefer is the only northern port east of the Bone Mountains known to maesters. Shrouded by fog, Nefer is surrounded by tall chalk cliffs. When seen from the harbor, it appears to be no more than a small town. Nine-tenths of Nefer is said to be beneath underground, however, giving the city its nickname of the Secret City.

There are mazes in Scotland. So I am impressed with the wall, mazes , Titan of Braavos, basically how much ancient marvels and history has found itself in Ice and Fire Story.❤❤

Odds that Malora the Mad Maid has a full on open third eye?

Seems like an obvious reference to Elric of Melnibone to me. The Melniboneans had a labyrinth to protect their island from invasion by the sea. The ships would come in, and be surrounded and attacked in the labyrinth, destroying them. Since GRRM uses the worldbook to reference many inspirations and pay omage to older authors, I figure this is just one of the handful of Elric references he put into the series. The story of the Mazemakers is the same too, once a globe spanning empire, who were slowly forced back and eventually disappeared from the world. Alot of the weird races GRRM includes are probably references to Conan. Basically, the entire worldbook is mostly just a giant book of references, and probably not really that cogently connected except to perhaps share some themes with the main story.

Great Theory as usual! One of the best ASOIAF channels. GRRM should hire you to help him finish the next books.

Nice video once again! You made me think about a parallel I was not aware of before, but which might have been discussed in the fandom before: Might Azor Ahai's three attempts to temper Lightbringer all refer to the same person? Given that he and the Bloodstone Emperor are variations of the same mythical figure (which I also believe), the Amethyst Empress might stand for all of it: 1. water = reference to her Fisher Queen's heritage 2. lion = her role as a tiger woman from Leng 3. Nissa Nissa as his wife I've alsobeen wondering why the Amethyst EMpress stands out as the only woman among so many male rulers that came before her, and your theory and comparison to Dorne and the Rhoynar definitely makes sense. However, this would mean that the marriage to the "original" tiger woman that changed the rules of succession must have happend previous to the birth of the AE and the BE, if we stick to a more literal interpretation of the legends, otherwise the AE wouldn't have been prior to her brother in the line of succession. If the BE married a tiger woman, and this tiger woman refers to the AE, then this would not only mean that they practiced incest (which wouldn't be surprising give the links between the GEOTD and Valyria), but would also put the AE in a position in which she could fulfil at least the roles of sacrice #2 & #3 quite easily. Sounds like something LML might have already discussed, but honestly still trying to catch up with his theories due to his super long videos and podcasts. Yours are much more concise! Anyway, I would be interested to hear your thoughts about that! :)

One unrelated fun fact : Sarnath is a place in northern India (near Varanasi) where Gautam Buddha first taught the Buddhist religion (Sangha). @crowfood' daughter: excellent and well researched video as usual

Great to see you back, I'm sure many of us thought you had gotten too busy again, I know it's difficult raising a family and trying to make videos, glad to see you back, you always make great content!

Wait, a serpent god and a spider godess fighting an eternal war . . . Reminds me of rhohor and the great other. With dragons, winged serpents, as beeing of fire beeing rholors Champions and the others, riding in ice soiders the great others champions. Controlling the dead like manipulating a marionetts strings, something cold and old and sceaming . . .

Wow! So many have given theories but this channel gives evidence. Bravo young lady. Bravo!

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Such a great video, excellent points and very interesting. You deserve more subs, been watching alot of asoiaf videos for years, definitely youre one of my favorites. Keep it up!

I love this video and the connections you have made between the maze makers on Lorath and the Sarnoi and the civilization of Leng. If I recall correctly, when GRRM was first starting to write the books, he had intended on the Targaryens/Valyrians being more like pyrokinetic people that were able to perform pyromancy with mind control. He credits a female friend of his with giving him the idea to include dragons and use this as the source of the Valyrian’s control over the element of fire. Since I believe that the Valyrians and their dragons do share a type of psychic connection, I think a great deal of what you are saying makes sense. I believe through genetic manipulation and fire magic, Valyrians were able to “take on an aspect” of a dragon, which is what gives them some of their peculiar abilities such as being much more resilient to disease, being more resistant to heat, and being able to combine/join their own personal wills with a dragon they have bonded with or claimed. This makes the Valyrian individual and the dragon’s will one and the same and is how they can control them without making dragons their “slaves”. That’s why their bloodline is important and why dragons withered and died once subjugated and locked away. The rider and dragon are stronger when near one another and weaker when apart. When you mentioned the warlocks opening Danaerys’ third eye and her consumption of the shade of the evening, it reminded me of the same type of reaction and effect that occurred when Bran was fed the possibly cannibalistic weirwood paste and when Arya first enters the house of black and white. Since Euron used the shade of the evening to open his third eye and also used it to force Aeron to open his, it makes me wonder about the true meaning of the test that is administered at the citadel to maesters seeking to earn their chain in the higher mysteries. According to the books, they lock the acolyte in a pitch black room and see if he can “light” the candle. Unless there is more behind it, I believe the maesters have the right idea, but are going about lighting the Valyrian glass candles the wrong way. Since Marwyn and Lady Dustin both believe the maesters do not have room for real magic in the world they are shaping, perhaps this is why the test takers fail. Only since the return of magic and fire made flesh by Dany’s dragons, have students of “magic” been able to open their psychic third eye and “light” the candles. Marwyn and Quaithe have mastered this and perhaps more can do so with the right knowledge, which Marwyn’s group and Bloodraven seem to have access to. This allows them to influence people and events. I have yet to watch your video on the weirwood trees and the ebony trees of Essos, but I will be doing so shortly. Could the oily black stone and whatever properties it carries that seem to have destroyed Ashhai and its landscape, as well as keeping the jungle from reclaiming the city of Yeen , possibly have been a source of corruption within the weirwood network that seems to spread across the planet through all the underground tunnels, etc. The Ebony trees and the shade of the evening seem way too closely related in their appearance and effects on those who consume their sap to be just a coincidence. Perhaps the shade of the evening and the trees from which they come are a result of some corruption in the land and tree network dating back to the fall of the oily black stone. This corruption could have been cultivated by the bloodstone emperor as it is by the warlocks and Euron. I would love to hear your thought on this. Lastly, GRRM uses many allusions to Norse Mythology, and the description of those like Dany, Arya, and Bran who have consumed shade of the evening or something closely related, the tastes of meat and honey made me think of the stories in Norse Mythology where people or gods would enter into agreements or tempt one another with the consumption of meat and mead, which sounds much like the meat and honey these characters smell or taste that start almost rancid but become euphoric. It lowers their guard and allows them to be open to persuasion and psychic manipulation. I just finished your azhor ahai video and there’s a line in the world book that I am always drawn to, but it doesn’t see, to get mentioned often. I cannot remember which eastern Civilization it was, but one tells the story of how the long night was ended by AA/the last hero/etc was able to bring the dawn back to the world bc he was able to convince all the more powerful and lesser gods of the world to sing a song together that ended the long night. Your breakdown of the Fisher Queens, the Rhoynar, Leng, and the Sarnoi made me think that this is the truth behind the ending of the long night and it will take a great hero or heroes to bring all the powers together to stave off another long night. Your videos are bringing a lot of questions I had together for me and it’s fascinating to listen to! Thank you so much for your videos and the time and effort you put into them!

This is honestly one of the very best asoiaf videos I've seen. It draws so many things together, and is highly imaginative while staying rooted in the material. Wish this channel had a larger audience

Gonna have to watch this one a few times to really get all of it. Great job.

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Yayyy!!! So overjoyed to see a vid from ya! Hope all is well with you and your’s! Thank you so very much for sharing your thoughts with us all... love your takes on various area’s that other haven’t considered covering much. 💕

Walking the way of the pattern to wisdom is a reference to the late Roger Zealazny's Amber series (which features a Corwin (a deviation name of a lot of characters) and an Oberon) he also the author of Lord of Light and tends to be referenced heavily by Mr. Martin. I think the maze patterns everywhere are a nod to him in much the same way as all the Lovecraft references.

Definitely a nice way to start a Sunday!

By all the Gods! I love exploring deep lore in The Disputed Lands. And I am *UTTERLY FASCINATED* by the connection to The Hightower in Oldtown! Do you think that Moat Cailan also has any connection to these other megalithic structures?

I checked your channel to if there is a new upload for months and I am very happy now:)

Glad to see you back! Waiting for the part 2 of last video

This so amazing and thoughtfull, I love your videos and ideas, well done, please give us more and more fantastic thoughts.

So happy you're back

Just wanted to say I appreciate you and all that you do for these videos. Love when i see videos from you. Great work!

For several years I've watched ASOIAF theory videos and only last week were you recommend. It is a damn shame it took so long, because these are great.

I'm so glad you mentioned The Fisher King lore because the RiverRuns and the Tully's have always brought that to mind for me.

Yes! Thankyou so so so much for continuing to create such amazing and in depth content. Keep kicking butt :)

Amazing video! I saw on one of your livestreams with indeepgeek that you mentioned that Joramun might be a giant, do you plan on doing a video about that, and d you think it's possible that only a giant has the strength to use the horn properly and that's why it didn't make a sound when Sam blew it?

Maze of Lorath reminds so much of the giant maze in "Breath of the Wild". It would be pretty awesome if it's like an RPG dungeon full of treasures.

I just want to say that Aria is probably one of the strongest people in the entire story and is overall my favorite character, and I can not wait to see how her part plays out. Also want to say that Jon is my very close second favorite, and I look forward to seeing their reunion in the books!

Really good synthesis of the literature 🤙

I'm speechless....the work that you've done is just astonishing

The Sarnor and Leng give me Arnor and Numenor vibes. Tall men from an isle in a southwest bay. This video also makes me want to read some Lovecraft. It sounds incredibly interesting.

Hello from New Zealand, it's great to see you're making videos again.

It's taken listening to Lorath been said hundreds of times for my brain to go "ooooh Lorath not Lorax". My dyslexic brains have been thinking its a reference to Dr. Suess all this bloody time

Haven’t watched yet but I’m so excited for this!

I love these deep analysis, I barely seen the hour pass.

You never fail to blow my mind 🤯

I'm not convinced the amethyst empress and the tiger woman are the same person. Bloodstone married the tiger woman when he was emperor and he didn't become emperor until amethyst was killed by him. The tiger woman was likely from Leng so she would have had yellow eyes. The amethyst empress had purple eyes.

No judgment cause it’s a long vid obvs just FYI there’s a media offline screen at about 7:50 :)

New disputed lands vid? Yes please!

Can you believe me if I say I had to wait for a whole day before I can digest this video and write my comment? You're really a great channel with amazing content BTW. The sar/ath connection is great, Cymmeri and Sy Mer connection too. But I couldn't catch if you mentioned Naath. Naath is South and Saath is North which is interesting, are we supposed to flip the map upside down? What do you think about Zoqora and Gipps wives of Huzhor Amai, Zoqora wife rode his chariot so a connection to Dothraki? But Gipps wife seem to do nothing of note, if Gipps wife weren't slain like Amethyst Empress and made into a cloak.

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Very convincing as always

Hyrkoon sounds Moorcockian.

Great stuff, thank you. Will be stopping by this one many more times, I think.

Good morning! Looking forward to the listen.

I'm only few minutes in but they could have traveled land and sea to old town

Perfect video to play while I go to bed, can’t wait to watch it again tmw !

Wow! That was such a great video! So glad I discovered your vidz - I wish I had sooner! Dany's vision quest in the House ofthe Undying reminds me of my bad acid trip when I was 16. If only I had the instructions of always taking the first right, and always the ladder going up and the same coming out!!! ... Maybe I would not have gotten so lost in my visions and would have been more ready for the 'forbidden knowledge'🍎

You cracked the code!! I really think you cracked it!!!!

Hoesntly loved, loved, LOVED this video! I need more of these super in-depth videos from you on some of the other lore!!! because I've watch your your videos and now im obsessed hahaha

My favourite Video of yours so far. Glad you are tackling the more unexplored corners of the lore. Keep it up and thank you :)

This is SO good. It is great to see you back again and making quality content

How the hell did we get to "The Amethyst Empress had to have been the Bloodstone Emperor's wife because she's sorta like Nissa Nissa"? That's a bit of a logic leap and you totally lost me because you've given me no other indication that they were married. Or that The Great Empire practiced incest in their royalty. Also it implies he took his tiger bride after she was dead, so I'm very confused here and cannot agree. I think it's more likely that the Lengii woman who married into the Yi-Tish Imperial family was their mother

I finally got around to listening to this video. It is absolutely fascinating. You make so many connections and point out so many parallels. I can’t wait until you get around to dropping some more knowledge bombs on us.👏👏👏

The word river/sea could easily get distorted as history becomes legend.

Great to have a new video from you. Insightful as always

top notch content and so much insightful food for thought! thank you so much!

Great to hear your voice and ideas as always!

not related to this video but: I'm addicted to this channel! ❤

Just discovered your video. Great food for thought.

Missed you Amanda. Glad to see you haven't been idle lol. Can't wait to see you live streaming soon!

The Gem Stones Emperors were Aliens that came from heavens. They started to genetic breed with the native species on Planetos. They made 3 groups, they took Dragons's DNA and some their own made Dragons Humanoids. 2 group the Ice Wakers, the Cold Ones with Ice magic and with the Native Species DNA. 3 Native species with the Children's DNA made them into Wargs. They made them into a work force for them, but one group thought they were more closer to the Gem Stones Emperors (GOD'S) than the others, they rebel against the Bloodstone Emperor. I think it was Cold Ones and they wanted kill them all and make them into slaves to serve them. The other groups fought back or ran away.

Another gem! Your videos are mind- blowing!

I cant get enough ASoIaF scholarship. awesome.