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@@emgimeer8212 All this talk about the future doesn't matter because we're in the present. And in the present, yes the Metaverse, NFTs, and Crypto looks like a bunch of scammers. Because it's only a bunch of scammers or a bunch of rich people riding the trend. Unless you can show it's value and worth as a system (beyond being a shittier way of doing things) NOW, there is no reason to even consider "oh the representation will clean up later" or "NFTs will be in the background" because that does very little right now. Like Eddie said, "but what are they offering now?"
Topic for next video? I report whenever I see them, but it comes so quick. The "new" thing is verified accounts that copy and paste totally harmless comments, so when I report it's spam, I'm _sure_ the YT doesn't understand why.
The Metaverse sounds so depressing to me. A bunch of people never leaving their chairs, just soaking up whatever garbage Zuck approves of. I love gaming, love technology but find Mark's vision very isolating and alone.
@@dws49 damn you beat me to it. was gonna say Mark probably watched/read Ready Player One ten too many times and is trying to make it real, but kinda failing.
Seeing somebody else finally say out loud “hey isn’t living our entire lives on the internet kind of scary?” is honestly such a relief. I feel like I haven’t seen anyone emphasize that enough, that shit would really suck.
God, teen me would've loved this. But also I was a kid with depression, anxiety, divorced parents, had just moved to a new town and undiagnosed ADHD. So of course, I would've loved this idea. But now, in my mid to late 20s, I'm just like... this sounds like a fucking nightmare. I don't want to be on the Internet everyday, but due to Covid and such, it's the only thing I have right now. It's just, yeah, it is a scary thought.
After coming out of almost 2 years feeling like I was trapped on the internet and couldn’t leave. I know for a fact that going to a physical bar, being able to see my family face to face, hanging out with my friends in person is always going to win over any virtual expirience
@@evolicious What are you going to be drinking, cyber beer? Or are you gonna be drinking your own beer at home, in which case, why not omit that part if it’s not part of the VR experience itself?
@@realleon2328walkabout does it well. It gives you the ability to play minigolf in places where minigolf cannot be played in real life (like on a space station, or under the ocean, or in an MC Escher painting) with up to 8 people, no matter the distance. I moved last year and Walkabout has been a great way to do something with my friends from afar without being able to be in their area and without tying me to siting at my PC, which I have to do all day for work. The problem is people are treating VR like it’s trying to take over real life experiences, when right now it excels best at supplementing existing entertainment choices.
i'm pretty sure a majority of ppl feel the same way and i deff think it's because that's exactly what's going on. or like an intelligent extraterrestrial being who was sent to whatever the fuck ivy league to learn human behavior and more importantly social connection and he got too cocky too fast so dropped out and became successful in human and/or his species' societal role/purpose quickly but without all the fundamental pieces of authentic human interaction, he believed facebook would suffice for collecting the vital information and knowledge of blending into the human species. but now zucky is in the shit too deep and now slowly the facade is starting to fall apart especially taking into account earth's oxygen which is probably fucking up his extraterrestrial biological functions or something. or he's just like, a deep fake or clone or some shit idfk alls i do know is zucky is so extremely uncomfortable to witness.
the second he said "you can virtually go to a concert and buy merch" it was clear that the whole point was to sell stuff and expose us to ads every second of our day
I'm thankful that most of the music I like is by hobos for hobos, I'll never have to feel like I'm missing out on some chucklefuck hatsune-miku-nightmare-zone 3-D TV concert ft. Ads.
@@edaj1990 I recently came to a realization that customers at retail stores don’t read signs anymore for that exact reason. We’re forced to just block out anything that even _looks_ like an ad.
Mark wants to sell experiences that are free to us. Like hanging out with friends, having a gaming night, and more. Mark literally wants to capitalizes on social experience.
… I wonder if he would have rights to the experiences and products thereof… he could delete photos/videos if at any point, they violate terms and conditions…… he could sue for royalties of music and art created within the metaverse…
The no legs thing is extremely lame. We have a population of people who are a lot more sophisticated than a pre-schooler. Did they refuse to pay their modellers/animators for more than a couple of days work?
It's funny, because it sounds like they *want* to add legs eventually, which is why the models just have empty space below them as opposed to something like Rec Room, they just...don't want to at the same time, I guess?
@@damienearl8302 As a modeler, and someone who knows about character creation, and animation, it is utterly, UTTERLY ridiculous not to just include the entire avatar from the beginning. Did they just fire the team too early and expect the last worker to quickly tidy up? Or are they so childish that they believe avatars don't exist from the waist down? It makes no sense at all.
@@TiffyVella1 I almost feel like they're just trying to make people believe these things are harder than they actually are, and are absolutely failing in the process
Facebook literally just capitalizes/profits off of human social interaction, that’s their entire business model. By putting a piece of tech in between you and your friends/family, they essentially gain full control of everything you do and say with them in ‘private’. It gives them unprecedented access to relationships and people. This is an actual dystopia.
Well it would be if it was working but it’s cratering still in the present and metaverse is now a place people go as a meme. Any normal people get run off pretty quick by the weirdos wanting the meme. If you haven’t been on I highly recommend. I have laughed harder on Vr meta than anywhere else due to sheer absurdity
But it’s a nicer room than the room than I’m in, and in VR I don’t have to go to the bathroom, because there’s no module for it yet. I’m not sure what happens IRL, but as long as I stay in metabubble, I’m sure everything will be fine.
I'm convinced that Facebook's (I guess Meta's now) marketing team is intentionally sabotaging the company for laughs. These dudes literally made the pitch for the super bowl ad like, "Hey, people aren't taking Meta very seriously, so I think the perfect way to fix that (and really connect with those youths) is with a gritty five nights at freddy's redemption arc ad!"
It's not that they're doing it intentionally, it's just that the kind of people who work in marketing are fundamentally the kind of people who don't understand the internet or young people in general.
The message I got from the ad is that meta views its prospective users as goofy, broken garbage robots who have (or will have) no lives. Its strongly implied that as is, we users have outlived our usefulness and will be forced to use meta in the future to eke out anything resembling a livelihood
I'd never actually seen footage of Mark Zuckerberg until this video, and I gotta say, I see the whole robot meme now. Also the Metaverse idea absolutely terrifies me
I feel like they really bronzed him up for the meta verse video too. Probably a calculated decision to make him look less like the subject of a cursed painting.
Mark's biggest mistake was using himself as the face of the Metaverse. Does he not realize nobody trusts or roots for him? This is a game, not a lifestyle.
do you think people are seriously going to buy/sign up for metaverse? i garuntee you that there will be like a 100 trolls at best entering servers for few months before the meme dies and they move back to Vrchat.
The timing couldn't be worse either. We've all just spent the best part of two years being unable to properly interact in person, go to live events, or hug our friends. We are acutely aware of how much we want those things, and here's Marky Fivehead telling us to carry on doing it all remotely. Get in the fucking sea mate.
honestly, they were probably hoping to drop the idea earlier, but the legal issues and fine probably set them back. $5bil? why do you think it looks like knock-off apple memojis? 😂 now he's likely capitalizing on people's fear of going outside. i know of more than a few people who have developed some agoraphobia due to lockdowns.
My thoughts exactly! I can't wait to NOT video chat anymore and actually meet people in real life! I don't want to shop online, I want to go to shops and flea markets and yard sales and whatever! I want to travel and experience things in real life that make me forget to check my phone!
This metaverse thing is what happens when CEOs don't listen to their design team or their user researchers. Or don't keep people on that is telling them their making the wrong decisions and fires them instead.
I love how almost nobody has ever actually defined what “metaverse” is even supposed to mean. It’s so blatantly a borderline-meaningless corporate buzzword, and I feel like I’m getting gaslighted every time someone talks about it as if it’s supposed to be a product with any distinctive meaningful features. It’s selling the very idea of buying something valuable-never mind what it is. Fucking gross.
Metaverse is a term that comes from novels and the main antagonist in almost every story the antagonist is a Megacorporation trying to gain a monopoly thats why "Facebook's Metaverse" is such a dystopian concept
The word metaverse is widely believed to have first appeared in the book Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson in 1992! So it definitely did start out to mean a cyber dystopia and basically still means the same thing
One sucky part is that "metaverse" was already a word before Facebook rebranded as Meta. So not only is this them cheaply attempting to distance themselves from the shitty things Facebook is known for, but they're also naming themselves in just such a way that "Metaverse" is now a brand name that they own, and any other virtual world thing either has to be specified as "lowercase-m metaverse" or we need a new name for them. Basically it's just dumb and the pinnacle of megacorp and I hate it.
Mark’s behavioral characteristics are on the extreme end of antisocial mindset. This difference in personality is why he thinks the Metaverse will work while everyone else can see the uselessness of it.
So, I recently graduated after spending 4+ years making VR programs and I had an internship for a government division. They floated around the idea of using our XR division to check out the metaverse and see if we can use it to our advantage. This was about the time when they announced that legs would be coming into the metaverse. I told them not to bother but they went ahead anyway. I hope my boss decided to abandon the project after all this time.
What a weird time to be pitching this too. After 2 years of being separated from friends and family and not being able to go to social events, this is the last thing the majority of people want in any demographic.
Maybe banking on pandemic getting worse. That or the conspiracy theorists are right and they actually control all of the vaccines, and shut them all off to promote their terrible VR platform
Meta is fucking stupid, but if anything the pandemic supports the case for meta. The ability to more closely simulate the social experience of hanging out with your friends, or working in an office, or whatever it happens to be without having to be socially distant would be a massive benefit.
I personally haven’t tried VR, but I have been told it does a decent job of fulfilling the social need to interact with someone who is embodied in space, so I think they are hoping people will latch onto it as a substitute for physical social interaction because everyone is pretty alienated by the inadequacy of video calls which people have been forced to use the last few years. Personally I hope it flops so that there are fewer excuses for people to prolong the ‘new normal’ indefinitely.
It's pretty interesting that we've reached a point where people reject new tech, not because it's "new and scary" but because it's just not what we want anymore
I'm pretty happy about this new development. It feels like people are slowly growing wise to the fact that just because something is new and shiny doesn't mean it's an inherent good.
The entire video is about how none of this is new though, so I’m not sure I get what you mean. The reason no one cares about this is BECAUSE it’s not actually new.
It's almost like that $100 billion was not actually spent on this metaverse product and instead was laundered for paying for other things............ Especially when we see college kids with $0 make a better virtual social platform over a weekend in unity or unreal than meta could ever make. Fun fact, the new Quest Pro is 100% from Microsoft, it's MS software and hardware, literally the Hololense3, but with a meta sticker on it. w/e Meta is doing with hundreds of billions of dollars, they are not making software or hardware.
I think he does, but just wants to make sure people will tie the name Meta into exactly that from this moment on to make absolutely sure no one ever remembers that it was not Facebook creating the idea...
this is very integral to a lot of Sillicon Valley guys, actually. Uber or some other idiots were like "WE'RE GOING TO REVOLUTIONIZE THE WORLD. Imagine UBER, but its CHEAPER.HOW? They have set stops and you can get on or off at those stops." motherfucker, those are BUSES. they thought they invented BUSES 😭😭😭
This is how I see this playing out: I’m out shopping, I find something I really want but someone told me amazons meta verse has it cheaper and I can price match. So I leave the place, go home, ignore my family, boot up my headset. Probably spend a few hours in the verse cause Amazon will probably just make a gigantic factory so it’ll take a while to find the item. It’ll probably littered with Amazon video and music ads. Once I find it cheaper I then take that item to my canon printer metaverse where after another few hours I can print a physical copy. I drive back to the store and I price match my item. Then I realize I’m not sure if I have enough money in my bank account so I have to do this whole thing over again to check my balance with chase and their metaverse. The future looks so awesome. I can wait for this crazy inconvenience.
tbf, when it comes to getting money from a customer, they do everything they can to make that experience fast and easy. There's no way you would need to do anything but use your AI-based visual camera to ID a product (or scan a QR code), and then hit the buy button and the item gets to your door in 2-5 days. It's when you go off the norm and try to find something obscure and not part of your usual algorithm while using preferred third party channels is what you are referencing. Point of sale systems are deliberately nightmarish to work with in that context. The convenience you are referencing doesn't work like that and never will. Because the experience I described isn't about some future system, you can literally do that, right now, at any store. That's a system light years more advanced than the system you have described. The future would be using AR/XR devices that will scan an item you are looking at using eye-tracking, then depending on your heart rate, the item gets added to a wishlist or instantly bought. Better yet, for extra dystopian-vibes, you can only buy an item with specific social credit scores. Not enough social credit, and you won't be able to buy from a brand that you gave a low rating or you publicly bad-mouthed them on social media. China has a similar system right now but only for government and public use. Seeing a similar system get applied to retail would be a total nightmare That's a scary future to live in. Luckily, it's not entirely inevitable for all of us.
It's not that bad. Don't exaggerate too much. You don't need to be addicted in Internet to choose just play a game with friends using VR or talk with a stranger in a virtual city, or even study in a social virtual group, it's fun and it won't be bad especially if you know how to use it properly and not get addicted. It will helps a lot more than you think, it's just about self control. Of course you still should have social life, don't expect a world where everyone is connected, addicted in VR. People have brain (even smaller ones). They have to work, to meet friends, to date someone, to live real life, rhey simply can't live their entire lifes in a world which doesn't exist (I mean youngers, like underages could, because they still doesn't have a much complex life). VR will be just one more amusement to people who wants to have a more immersive experience on things, and there's any problem on it, it's actually a good thing. If someone is addicted to it, that's their problem, it doesn't bother to anyone who build that VR goggle, or to the concept itself.
@@phantomwarrior8686 That is quite a reply to my brief comment. You can have fun with VR stuff but that's different than an all-consuming metaverse in which virtual reality becomes a replacement for reality.
@@phantomwarrior8686 Yeah, I can hardly keep a vr headset on for more than an hour without getting sick. It’s not too hard to not get sucked into this.
Ah yes, my favorite kind of "after-party", the kind where everyone just stands in a room doing nothing except buying shirts and wearing them. So glad Mark is bringing this experience to the digital age.
The only "afterparty" was I've ever been too was mostly just people getting high or taking forever in the process of organizing who's riding home with who, and that involved me guarding the door to the bathroom while a guy I met that same day lost his virginity inside. And I also helped solve the mystery of the night's poop bandit and almost wound up frotting a stranger within a span of like 5 minutes. Not sure what a normal afterparty is like but my personal experience leaves me seriously lacking in any faith a VR experience could replicate it. Which is kinda the whole point. VR stuff like this will never be able to replicate what it's trying to replace. The chaos of humanity cannot be properly expressed when it's so limited. I dont hate VR as concept, it's very cool and I'd love to try it, but trying to use it to monopolize human interaction is a nightmare world
So I managed to think of literally one thing I'd want to use VR for, and that's being out in nature during the winter, like walking through a forest or sitting by a river. I do that a lot in the summer and really miss it during the cold months. But that would require much better graphics to be worth anything, because cartoon trees aren't gonna cut it for that purpose.
I think the virtual concert could be a good idea for people with disabilities or sickness. Like if someone gets overwhelmed with loud sounds or huge crowds but loves a certain artist they can go and have control over the volume and still technically have their space. I mean that’s what I would use it for lol
That's nonsense. Cause a virtual (with avatars, not filmed in 3D-VR!) concert doesn't make the experience better than the music played at your home entertainment. And a concert filmed in 3D-VR and seen with VR will also scare a person who is scared from huge crowds. And why do you want to lock disabled people in their flat? Didn't we just try nowadays to include disabled people into our real live?
you know I always thought it’d be cool to live in a cyberpunk dystopia cuz at least I’d get a cool robot arm. yet here I am, living in said dystopia with a severe lack of cool robot arm
The bit I found the most horrifying, apart from, y'know, all of it, was the idea that when you want to be alone in the metaverse that rather than log off or take off your headset, you would join a room in the metaverse just by yourself, proving that fb hasn't changed at all (cause no shit) and still wants you using their platform for the most amount of time so they can use all your personal data to sell you shit
whos target audience like facebook moms and dads arent gonna trust it, young people already hate facebook(which is why i thought they bought instagram), and then on top of that make mark the main speaker someone who has already lost the the trust of the like everyone, like this was his chance to distance himself, how does he not know he a walking pr disaster
Old people won’t understand it, middle-aged people won’t trust it, i’m willing to bet that some younger people will fall prey to it but most of them realize how trashy it is.
Little did you know that a year later that being able to block people without them being able to pay to bypass your block was going to be a feature for social media
11:28 - 11:46 the Ready Player One movie 😂😂 they’re just using VR headsets That closing gag about the social network had me laughing so much!! I love that movie and Andrew 😂❤
The first time I saw the word "metaverse" was in Persona 5, and it referred to an abstract dimensional overlay that criminals could abuse to enslave the masses. It's odd to me that Zuckerburger thinks that was a good name for his latest doodad.
@@brandonfaddis7443 A fair point, but you'd think Zuck could have taken five seconds to google the word to see if it had been used somewhere else before.
First time I heard the name "Horizon Worlds" I was expecting new dlc or some sequel to Horizon: Zero Dawn and got excited. This tall-headed sculpy monster ruined that dream. The best and kindest words I have for that bastard lizard in a gumby costume is that he is a party pooper.
As a zoomer who spent a good portion of my entire childhood socializing in online spaces and having the pandemic put a damper in socializing into my young adulthood. You arnt wrong with how dystopian it feels. I don’t want to be sold over priced ugly graphics and fake nft bullshit that some underpaid artist got shillings to make in a dark room. I don’t want to be sold an abstraction of socialization that I could more easily get for free on the “old” internet. All that money and for what? The same old stuff we’ve already had being sold to us at a higher price and more exclusive and even less tangible. I don’t want a new internet, I want affordable housing, affordable education, I want a community that is happy and healthy and doesn’t hide from itself chasing the idea of happiness behind a headset, I want to live. Not pretend like I am living.
As depressing as this sounds, happiness in social environments are something you need to actively seek to cultivate. Unfortunately our society is too selfish to want to foster mutually beneficial and healthy relationships. The type of change you're seeking is going to take a nationwide shift in consciousness which is highly unlikely.
I laugh every time I remember that "we'll have legs soon" was one of Zuck's latest hype points, as though legs are gonna make that boring-ass world any better. VR Chat is free and I can run around as an anime catboy or Grimm from Billy and Mandy or an oddly detailed dragon demon girl, and one of my friends is doing karaoke with me as a lamp. He's pitching this new world to folks who don't already live online and he wants it to be bland and easily monetized instead.
I saw people talking abt selling real estate in the Meta verse and how there'll be fancy clubs and restaurants for NFT bros. Now that's a dystopian future.
I'm really curious how they came up with this idea? Was it brainstorming by committee or was it just Zucc, probably one of the most out-of-touch people, making all of the decisions.
The thought of living my entire life on the internet is terrifying, I don't know why they're trying to sell that when it's obvious nobody wants it. What's actually cool is augmented reality, holograms, all that stuff, but everytime there's a product based around that concept, it's done so poorly that they have to discontinue it a year later. Idk man, let me project a movie from my phone so I can watch it with some friends and family instead of trying to market a virtual room with flying torsos.
I’m only still using Facebook and Instagram (also Twitter) because I am involved in a shit ton of activism. I want to see power hungry (wannabe) dictators like Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, Scott Morrison, Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un and that Xi cunt who took over China all brought down and the people woken up that they are not the people to support!
For me personally, I can only hope this will fail the same way I saw 3D television in all it's forms fail not even a couple of years later after seeing it being predicted to be the next best thing on the IBC in 2010. Yes, it's incredibly cool to look at my models in Blender (which is why I mainly bought a second hand set of glasses) and it can help tremendously well to look at something in a model and have my brain go "Woooow that's completely out of proportion!" whereas in 2D I did not have that feeling at all, but I get motionsick incredibly easy, unfortunately.
It's like he saw all those dystopian movies and said to himself, I want to make my own matrix, I want to be the machines! He needs to take his billions, be thankful he'll never see prison, and take a nap instead of trying to sell water during a monsoon and trying to own rain.
2:42 The first time I saw that Metaverse ad, I was like "hey that 3D model of Mark Zuckerberg looks pretty nice, only a little bit of uncanniness, looks like they're on to something!" before I realized that's the actual Mark Zuckerberg, not the Metaverse model
If you want an even older example, Active Worlds has been doing 3D virtual spaces with avatars since 1995. When the media was going batshit crazy for Second Life, all I could think was, "did they never experience Active Worlds?"
great video eddy, loved the commentary and punchy one liners.... i might as well re-vamp my MySpace account.. which is essentilly what Facebook has become
@@moldyreesescups Honestly, the glassy eyes and shinny skin read as some sort of Lovecraftian amphibian creature. We're beyond lizard man at this point.
it seems like Mark’s preferred audience/user base are those he assumes don’t evolve their internet or online experience outside of what he directly provides them, so i suppose it makes sense that he’s telling them this is new, even though it is not true.
I find it so terrifying that a lot of peoples lives and business things revolve around facebook- even to the point that some phones are sold with facebook already installed!
this is a great point. he can't convince anyone remotely familiar with the internet because the product doesn't make any logical sense, but he has a chance with those who are less in touch, particularly older generations. they might not have the resources to understand that what this is is shitty exploitation. it's super fucked up
Seriously even a goddamn genshin impact has a feature where your character's legs realistically interact with terrain. A DAMN MOBILE ZELDA BUILT AROUND A SCAMMY GACHA SYSTEM GOT THIS RIGHT! (Though thinking about it Facebook is still shittier than this)
Bruh. Unity and Unreal both have IK in-engine support, you just implement it with some drop downs and it's done. Just shows that maybe the $100bil zuck lost was spent on......other things........ Probably protection from the maxwell black book list. Or paying china, russia and the altright/rightwing to influence the US politically towards fascism. Maybe might be something to do with saving face of metric tons of failure and defeat at the hands of millions of users that don't like facebook anymore. Most likely, all of the above.
@@landchannel7688 to top it off, Facebook's new VR device comes straight from Microsoft. Like literally software, hardware, all off the line directly from MS, just like the Lenovo WMR (Rift S). Just put a meta sticker on it and sell it as their own XR device when it's literally just Hololense3 (HL2 was sold to the military and was instantly hated when used in field testing, lmfao).
It literally took me a week to program a functioning full body VR avatar setup in Unity, and while their tools might be more difficult to use, they have infinitely more budget and time
“We’re all about privacy! You can have a private experience in your own bubble!” That’s…… not what privacy is. Not at all. The idea that they could 1984 a word like that so there’s no way to describe their crimes is a pipe dream.
This is a minor criticism compared to Eddy's complete beat down of Meta, but I hate the Rayman-esque avatars in horizon worlds. They look like Mii's and Xbox live avatars rolled into one making it so bland and safe. Eddy brought up VRchat which has a plethora of styles for your character and seeing something like Sora, Kermit the frog, and Hank Hill inside a night club is so much more interesting and funny to see. Not only that but you can see the full characters! Having a 5 year old game looking and playing better than a billion dollar company's "new" product is laughable and I'm glad people are laughing at it.
It's crazy how vrchat also (kinda) supports full body tracking, while horizon worlds, the "new and exiting experience™" is literally incapable of that because of the character designs
i feel like the vr stuff would also be insanely hard to implement to everyday life (like working and shopping or whatever else theyre trying to push as additional vr experiences) because everyone is so different. like the headset would be really disorienting and some people would probably just get headaches/migraines and motion sickness and other stuff, glasses would probably make it hard to wear throughout the day, etc.
The problem with their pitch about the privacy features is that it assumes that what people need privacy from is other users, while what people actually need privacy from is the company itself.
By the way when you first get on ‘Metaverse’ it kindly reminds you “like a neighbor would” that they record your audio for YOUR safety. Every breath, every tone, every sentence you say being sold off to another company of dubious origin. Thanks for keeping us safe Mark!
I think the most depressing thing about this outside of how dystopian it all is, is that Zuckerberg seems to think we all want to live in some sort of Matrix/SAO version of the Internet. Despite, you know, these versions of the Internet are incredibly dystopian, so much so that the whole point of these movies and shows is that people want to escape from these hellscapes. Also, it completely ignores the fact that the general reaction to the last two years has seemingly indicated that people do not want to stuck in their homes living on the internet all day.
Lmao that's actually a great point. What should we pitch after people have been locked in their houses for almost two years and desperately want to go outside? I know! Staying locked in their house and never needing to go outside.
Yeah like as cool matrix is potentially, inm the series and movies, thats very dystopian. Its becaus the world is shit, and its about people waking up from it. And while SAO is not very good at commentary, its a death game, and a terrible game at thatthats only somewhat intereting, because its a death game. So the terrible game design from sao, and the dystopia and being traped from matrix yaaaay.
the fact that so many people realize how dystopian it is gives me hope though,I haven't seen anyone but Meta themselves mention the Metaverse in a positive light.
It's a cliché, but we're basically living in the most advanced metaverse ever called "Reality". Anything they create digitally will always feel like a cheap knock-off.. Like a prison.
I think a lot of people agree with this sentiment considering that we've had many dystopian works like novels and movies that have probably warned us all beforehand, there's also the fact that we've become more cynical and aware of how companies have no interest of the consumers and employee's wellbeing. It's still sort of sad that some people will fall into it and think it's amazing but in due time they will realise that it sucks
@@Cajek2 Funny enough, that's not even remotely possible due to the virtual space being easily manipulated with hacks and exploits. The first few launches of metaverse were all cancelled becasue kids found out ways to harass users, lmfao. They did private launches and then surprise, it was quiet, empty, and boring.
Its ironic that while they keep emphasising the positives of the metaverse, so much of our pop-culture tells us falling for the trap of living in a virtual world is wrong and dangerous and exploitative. They couldn't have chosen a worser brand to invest in because it already carries risky cultural connotations, even more so as we all grow sick of Zoom and online communication. But in terms of the virtual world, almost everyone knows what the Matrix is, let alone other sci-fi stories in either something like Black Mirror or Love, Death Robots and all the older sci-fi literature too that keeps reminding us: don't fall for the promise of a virtual world. And with the memes of VRChat and how VR is still not that much more immersive than it was 10 years ago, none of us are taking this Metaverse very seriously, and rightly so.
Second Life started in 2003. Zucherberg is 19 years too late. His entire pitch is offering things that already exist. Interacting with Virtual friends ✅ Avatars ✅ Virtual Concerts ✅ Buying merchandise ✅ Digital currency ✅ Playing games ✅ Experiencing art galleries ✅ Online learning ✅ The list goes on. Literally everything that Meta is offering is literally nothing new.
IPHONEs weren't knew either. Japan's consumer tech was 2 years ahead, but how a story is framed from the beginning determines how it is understood for decades.
That's the thing with all these 'tech visionaries'. They have one solid idea, and for the next 40 years they feel they have to re-invent things that don't need re-inventing.
I want to congratulate you on the hypothetical scenerio you made at min 11:59. A very smart, even philosophical, point regarding the strange "directionless" of today's corporate technology. Beautiful
Totally agree. The most fun of vrc is the user-generated content and freedom, I doubt metaverse is going to have anything close to the same freedoms. Not only with the kind of content people can make, but also communication. I've had some fucking BONKERS conversations w ppl on vrc that I can't imagine happening in such a corporate plane like meta.
It sounds like essentializing but it's still so damn accurate. There's literally nothing that distinguishes this from VRChat other than the lack of features and customization.
i wish i was in their meetings with share holders so i could shit on all of marks 'new' ideas that is old technology, 5 years old, free and hes pitching as his own new idea. shareholders would realise that hes full of shit.
@@Cobalt985 Don't forget the fact that you have to buy goods and items in Metaverse. Instead of, you know, just uploading your own world like you can in VR Chat.
As a sci-fi nerd and someone interested in VR and the future of it, it's good to see almost all of the VR community reject Facebook's metaverse. I've seen the term "Nexus" thrown around as a community-built version of what Facebook claims to be making. Also the term "metaverse" comes from a dystopian cyberpunk novel called Snow Crash, so they're literally spelling that one out for us.
11:47 You nailed it here. VR is like a worse version of what we already have. It's useful for gaming and engineering but in real life, it's just nahh. I get why people might want it though, it's just bonkers that all of those smart entrepreneurs in the Bay Area have not discovered how to build a nice city yet, all of them cramming into SF or making do with a bungalow in the suburbs. Instead, it would be more useful to repeal most of our zoning codes and planning restrictions so we can be free to build pleasant, walkable cities and have these "VR experiences" IRL.
Hey Eddy, just wanted to say I watched your video and I'm glad somebody is finally brave to admit they are a gamer. I think if we all speak up about this problem, we could heal the wounds and end the stigma
When Metaverse was presented all I could think is "This just looks like shitty VR Chat" and that is exactly what it is. Here is why Facebook wont succeed. This type of technology only appeals to the younger generations or those who enjoy this type of technology. Those who enjoy this technology probably already know that Facebook is one of the worst platforms for privacy and is run by a bunch of money hungry individuals. For that reason alone no one will buy into this metaverse shit. Why give Facebook anymore of your information when you can experience the same thing in VR Chat.
True. And the best way of creating a (real) metaverse is letting the people create and develop it. The metaverse being in charge of a company (and specially Facebook) is the pinnacle of a dystopian future.
They are trying to sell a VR Chat that isn't free and looks uglyier. Sure, a lot of people in VR Chat are fucking nutcases, but a free community will always be more safer and interesting then big business apps
I agree, my fear is that this is going to be sold to businesses as a new “zoom” type of tool to connect people and be able to deliver services remotely but in a more “immersive” and “controlled” environment, and that it makes businesses so dependent on it that everyone will need services/technology that integrate with “the Metaverse” to be successful. Then everyone will be dependent on it in a similar way as to how we are dependent on smartphones now.
Thank god there aren't literally thousands of books and movies about why a virtual world that requires all of your attention/money/time/etc. that's run by a sketchy company is dangerous and a terrible idea. Otherwise, I wouldn't be so excited for the Oasis- oh fuck, um, Horizon Worlds.
@@wilymuppet8941 to be fair, considering that the world became nuclear wasteland, it's very nice of robots to actually keep humankind alive. And some humans (or maybe just another robots in disguise) know how to repair human bodies in order to adapt to real world.
honestly when i first heard of it, its just a copy and paste of imvu but with vr. but imvu has massive problems with iso individuals if they dont feel comfortable in someone elses room and then no one comes to your room if you do create one. Like its been done a good handful of times that model of chat room and it never works out. They think there different cause there facebook lol
As someome who casually plays Vr chat on a headset for a few laughs and to socialize for a couple hours. The metaverse geuinly terrifies me, because I have met people on there who spend every waking hour on the app or in virtual spaces. Stuff like this preys on very emotional, vulnerable, people who cannot face reality at all and do not ever want to leave. It is the most dystopian thing I have experienced and its extremely depressing.
Yes. I've never done VR chat, but I've been online for some decades, and I don't really know how to put this into words so I'm going to butcher it just to get it off my chest. By all measures, I'm supposed to be the one who doesn't know how to socialize, is quiet, is awkward, is socially stupid, and yet I've come to repeatedly realize I'm NOT that.... because I actually grew up. I'm willing to accept failure and fear and look at other people like they are human beings in existence too.
THANK YOU Your the only person I’ve seen so far to mention this We’ve always supposed to have been the socially awkward but you know we’ve grown up when we realize that the following sounds depressing Spending all your time online, and it sounds even worse with the new meta verse letting you basically do everything but eat and drink on it
It's both good and bad to know that my fears about the metaverse weren't unfounded. It's good that I'm not alone in seeing how dystopian the world is becoming as technological advancement depends on sanguivorous billionaires who just want to take advantage of vulnerable people and capitalise off of mental illness and even su*cide among young people. But it's bad (or rather, explicitly evil) that vulnerable people are taken advantage of in the first place.
It's ridiculous how for years gamers have been saying microtransactions are ruining video games, but somehow NFTs are different and actually a good thing to want in games? Make it make sense
the difference is microtransactions only make profits for game companies, while your average Joe can make money from NFTs--key word can. you're more likely to be scammed by NFTs than actually make money but you can also make a lot of money
@@MaskedMammal obviously, the nfts are so hideous Like seriously, if you're going to put some horrendous monkey on your profile pic you might as well embrace your inner furry and pay much smaller price for an actual art from a real artist
Dude the idea that Mark only implemented avatars so that he can give himself boobies in the Metaverse is hilarious. I imagine his species doesn't lactate so none of them have mammary glands so boobies are like a whole new thing to him
It's weird that metafacebook gets fined $5billion for misusing and abusing peoples privacy rights and the victims don't see a dime of that money. I just... don't understand that at all
So 5 billion over 2.9 billion monthly users. Let's say that it only concerns US citizens, so about 100 million. That's what? 50 bucks? Is it really worth the administrative labor to send every citizen 50 bucks? Maybe they could do it as a tax write-off if you have a sufficiently old facebook account.
@@ashleydavis3318 it's more than possible to payout that money. Many class actions in the past have sent out checks for literal pennies on the dollar and not all the 100mil users will sign up to claim the money, increasing the individual payout for everyone else.
My dad and I wanted to get a VR set, so we looked at them found the Oculus Quest and were like "oh this is under $400!" but then saw it was made and owned by FB and that you had to use FB for it to work, so we bought the Valve Index instead. My family spent an extra $700 just to avoid Facebook. edit: some people are saying that we made a dumb decision to spend more on the headset (if valuing privacy is dumb, then sure). I should also clarify that the Index and and Quest are not really even comparable in terms of quality and power. I have a very high-end gaming rig so I also kind of wanted to be able to take advantage of the Index's superior capabilities. Trust me the extra $700 was *worth it*
i like how every feature of the metaverse he advertises (working, learning, seeing friends) is something you can literally do irl and for fucking free, it's absurd but also pretty evil that they are trying to market things that we already have to us, and it's even worse that a lot of people will probably end up buying into it
they should be investing in games and instead and stuff we CANT do irl like i can go bowling with friends irl but i obviously cant go flying dragons with them
One thing I have never understood from the beginning of this metaverse concept is how Meta is expecting stores to exist and sell clothes online. Not just NFTs, but like modeled clothes that you can "try on" before buying it. Like a previous commenter said, it would be impossible to have all those items modeled. 3D modeling isn't easy. Most stores (especially local and not corporate stores) cannot and will not hire someone to model everything just for a few people to see. I am really convinced that the Metaverse is just a scam and a crappy VR game.
Fr, if I wanted to put on a VR headset to interact with other people in VR headsets, I would just get on VR chat. At least that game won't sell all my personal info lol.
Zuck's 3D model character looks more lively than actual Zuck and that's frightening. Zuck's cheeks are not meant to be that rosey nor are his eyes supposed to be that filled with life.
