The Mormon Roots of Reincarnation & Magic in the Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow Trials with Ron Yorgason 

As a never Mormon this was so informative. I’ve heard a lot of defensive people saying Chad and Lori’s beliefs had nothing to do with Mormonism. Isn’t acknowledging the issues, instead of hiding them, the first step to preventing this type of “doctrine” inspired crime. Have you thought about going on Mormon Stories. It would be a great way to expand your channel, and this is right up their alley.

Just shared to my community wall on RU-vid. Will share on my other socials also.

We need to spread this channel, folks!!

Very interesting! As a never LDS, Been waiting to find someone to break down where these beliefs originated in LDS scripture.

Heber C Kimball taught that spirits were like pottery which could ground up and turned back into clay to be then re-made into pottery.

I am still stuck with what Heather said, in her HTC interview, she was asked if she thought Chad believed it, she said she thinks Chad did the same research she did which made her leave the church, after she found lie, after lie, after lie. She said she didn’t know whether he believed it or not, she seemed to lean in the direction that he didn’t, and I don’t think he did either, he was trying to sell books, because he saw how others were able to sell books, but the difference is, he had no clue how to write. Chad was trying to make a dollar, I think it shocked him when his “we were married in another life” line worked. He was living in lala fantasy land, but I don’t think he believed any of it. He manipulated quite a few people, though. He is sick and twisted. O

I just found your channel, and have followed the Lori & Chad Daybell trials from the inception when the children were missing and Nate Eaton interviewed Melanie Gibb. I am a devout Catholic (please don’t throw tomatoes at me!), and so never-Mo. I live in the heart of Gilbert, AZ. Even though Catholic, I have LDS friends due to living here most of my life. The Mormon religion has always fascinated me, and I have a sincere respect for my LDS friends. I can now understand why their beliefs in reincarnation are so real due to the LDS doctrine and beliefs. My heart has hurt over the fact that the Daybells took the lives of Tylee and JJ after those children were seemed dark. The blend of magic, mysticism, pendulums, castings, and necromancy are where the derailings started to occur, plus the idea of Godhood, and Chad Daybell believing he was James, brother of Jesus in a past life! Thank you both for unpacking the magical history of Mormonism along with the writings and the parchments. Fascinating yet so disturbing to know people actually believe all this! I’ll stick with going to Mass, taking the Eucharist, reading the Bible, and my simple Catholic prayers, thank you! 😊

Those 21 church manuals? I’m curious to know how often the story of Mary Fielding Smith, mother of Joseph Fielding Smith, having to administer to the sick ox was told. And HOW it was told. I swear it was told to me that it she herself who did it, all alone, because her team captain and the other brethren refused to help her- even said they’d leave her behind. Nowadays the version is that she called on her priesthood leaders to administer and they did.

1:02:36 … the story about how, back in the time of Orson Whitney, a question was posed to a bishop: what to do if a man commits adultery? The determining factor on the church discipline was whether it was publicly known. If not known, the offender was just rebaptized. If publicly known, then the church leaders were forced to excommunicate. Gawd. Not much has really changed. My abuser, temple married when he committed adultery with his LDS, temple-endowed married neighbor during his first year of marriage in the 1970’s, only confessed in the 1990’s. His punishment was a quiet disfellowshipment. That is all. But he regretted that confession and hardened against the church. Then he was called into the bishopric BY THE SAME LEADER who’d disfellowshipped him, who was then the stake president. I believe the lax punishment of male predators and the harsh punishment of youth and women is part of the reason nothing will change in misogynistic, uberpatriarchal LDS cult-ure.

I love this channel

This was soooo GOOD!!!!

Please do an episode about the Kabalah with your knowledgeable friends! I want to hear more about hermeticism, Mormon links to Jewish mysticism, etc. 🙏🏻💫

This is fascinating! Thank you both. 💜

It took me a bit to finish this, Daybell trial came back online for a minute. I was bad, who can re-baptize me? I need a cane for stability, where can I get a coffin cane with magic powers, blood and hair attached? I am obsessed with seeing what Chad's pendulum looked like. Melanie Gibb said yellow and pointy. I can't find the Julie Rowe rant where she said Chad needed to quit using his OWL necklace to get revelations. I want a pointy yellow owl necklace please. Maybe a divining rod would be good, I have a lost watch with an apparent super battery that goes off every hour. I have torn my bathroom apart because that is where I hear it. Maybe a magic treasure finding rod would uncover my watch! Let me give my rant. No death for Chad. I don't want him to go zooming back to heaven and grab a new body. I want him to fester in his current body. With his resting bitch face missing that 3 times a day sex with his goddess. Beth and Ron, you two are a hoot. Funny that there is no need to enhance or embellish your Mormon facts because the things you are discussing are straight outta the church history and I sit here with my mouth open listening. Did Chad say whether he texts Alex in outer darkness on an android or an iphone Today in court we heard about a chaddaybell@gmail.com google search on clearing iphone history. I think Chad's texting to the dead phone is an iphone. Is Tammy taking his texts? She went to a different place than Alex so they can't share a phone I guess.

Great show!

In my opinion, the doctrine of personal revelation is at the heart of all of these Mormon murders. Whenever someone says they can personally talk to God and that they are that special and people follow them. It’s a recipe for disaster.

The bloodstone amulet looks pretty cool, I'd wear that. This series has been really fascinating, there's no bottom to the weirdness of the Chad and Lori cult.

your videos are awesome 🙂

This has been so fascinating

Great info!

Here because difficult research Highly recommended you!

Got my sub! Very impressed…

Thank you. There is nothing more dangerous than a true believer.

It was Melanie P’s children. Chad was the one wanting to zap them with pain. Lori said not yet. In the car on the way to Calif

Eric Smith, a follower of Julie Row and friend of Chad Daybell believes the one mighty and strong is a woman.

Heber C Kimball taught that people were like pottery which could be broken down and then re-made.

Radical feminism is not a thing for me, but then I’ve never felt that being a woman has ever stood in my way for accomplishing anything I wanted. From running companies to being a wife and mother. Establishing your own credibility and confidence, without being bitter absolutely opens doors. And I have never been a doormat that sat quietly in a corner licking my wounds. Yes I pissed people off, but I didn’t care and let it roll off. I wasn’t just “lucky” or fortunate, I worked for it.

GENESIS: As for the first word of scripture, the same exact word was used by Jacob to describe his birstborn son. רוש does mean head, but in Portuguese. In French it means pink. In English it is the rose. It also refers to the beginning of the day when the sky is rose in color. The first word of the Bible is, according to Judaiic tradition, the title of the book. For this reason, REAL Hebrew scholars used the Greek word Genesis, for "in the beginning."--NOT in the head. That"s just damn dumb.

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The question in my mind is did Joseph garner information from some Jew steeped in history and Judaiic mysticism. OR Did Joseph call on any spirit willing to answer from "the grove." Natives of northern America were known to practise pole worship which is a form of ancestor worship. This was practised by ancient sea people like the Phoenicians. We see it in the story of Gideon. "Grove" is a word that appears in context with the religion. "Palmyra" has a meaning related to these poles which are made from the trees. It interests me that some historian saw fit to name the town of Joseph's experience Palmyra...and a nearby town i think is Macedonia? Add to that, Joseph's nighttime spirit is named Mormon. Mormon is a word in the related ancient language which translstes as "nightterror." At least it's honest in identifying itself. Moroni is more difficult, but moron does relate in the sense of the lowest rank of teachable students. Moroni is a word that identifies the captain of the lowest rank of soldiers in describing Satan's army. When enemies attacked Jerusalem and the temple, these are identified in scripture as "the young men that pisseth against the wall." They would be the "oron" and one's captain woule Moroni. The point is that when the tail of the beast is on the wall, the head is in the Holy of Holies. In my opinion, our word urine is probaby derived from the same source as "oron"--the pissants of Satan's military. If you wanted to build an honorable religion, you wouldn't use demonic contacts and Satanic ideas to do it. I'm not actually a scholar, this just happens to be a subject I studied years ago.

1:12:00 FYI, George Q Cannon is a direct ancestor of Jeffrey R Holland

1:21:27 Heber C Kimball’s patriarchal blessing also says he is a direct descendant of Jesus Christ. Thus we see the means whereby Heber was the dependable lap dog servant of whoever flattered his huge vanity. This lineage of Jesus Christ was saved by patriarchs for the elite members of their day. My Kanaka great- grandfather was also told that he literally descended from Jesus Christ. His wife was placed in the tribe of Joseph. No succeeding generation seems to have inherited the lineage. Hmmm. Could it be that they were placed in Manasseh, because they were “just” Kanaka? (Hello, racism?)

Tim Ballard is portal man Joe Murray connection

This would just be very interesting - except that it emboldens criminal con men and women to prey on folks who have this in their religious background. And this has resulted in murders.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12: There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or daughter to pass through the fire, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer; For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord; and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out before thee.

Do you actually smoke that pipe or is just part of the costume? First time watching so I’m a little distracted.

Eli Jah means priest of God. I believe this refers to a priest of the most high God, the triune God in his fullness. John B.ministered in the spirit and power of a special order of priesthood. These like Elijah and Moses have the true ability to pass through space and time. Talmud has an interesting discussion on how Moses managed to run up and down Mt. Carmel in the time it took for the sun to rise (or maybe it was the setting sun?) Special gifts for special people. Elijah and Moses and Jesus may have stood on the same mountain, but somehow came together for a shining moment in time. :)