The Most Controversial Watch Ever Made | Watchfinder & Co. 

We know you want more watches…. click here: linktr.ee/watchfinder

I swear you guys could make a video about a store brand block of cheese mesmerizing.

Not a huge Bremont fan, but I do love the rotor on this watch. The incorporation of the Wright Flyer fragment is a neat touch.

"...better best not peel back too many layers...." Love it.

It's mind-boggling that 66 years after the Wright brothers man was walking on the moon .20th century was a remarkable one in every way

The Bremont detractors on here are hilarious. There is no “faux history” from them. They actually market themselves on their recent history and their engineering. Those who don’t know about the brand really shouldn’t comment. A price comparison is Tudor for the majority of Bremont’s range. This Flyer is a limited edition exclusive that doesn’t represent any of the majority of their sales. Tudor for instance will make and sell probably 10 times the number that Bremont make (around 8000 a year), will be using relatively rudimentary technology and piggybacking off the Rolex knowhow, will also, until very recently, he using ETA or Valjioix modified movements, and are worked and sold off the back of celebrity endorsements and the like that, in my opinion, cheapen them somewhat. I like Tudor, don’t get me wrong. But they are on a price parity with Bremont and economy of scale would say that Bremont themselves are actually good value, especially when you learn properly about the numbers, the technology that is in them (the Triptych case, the shock resistance, the extra hardened steel and sapphires, the over doing of the anti reflective coating and so on), they are very good value. On top of that, they have a modern but also traditional look rolled into a very distinctive look. Yet people still are hugely derogatory about them yet they, other than this faux pas, have done nothing different to any other manufacturer, with Tudor being a very good comparison. So, yes, I am a fan. Yes own one. And no I wasn’t suckered in by their present history and so on. I liked what I saw, did the research and it was a Bremont vs an Omega AT. It was a close call, I have to admit, but I liked putting my money into a home brand and Bremont won. Haven’t regretted it once. I adore it. Always will. And couldn’t give a monkeys about resale value. The value is it’s meaning to me, what it represents to me (a tribute to both my late father and late father in law) and the knowledge that I have something on my wrist that is easily an equal to anything similarly priced out there in terms of engineering at least. Carry on criticising.....it does show people to be opinionated, not knowledgeable. It’s very funny

At 4:40 Watchfinder once again proves they are the best at closeups!

Hey watch elitists, Rolex movements have always been made by Aegler watchmaking company. This changed in 2004 when Rolex acquired Aegler, thus making their movements "in-house". I hope you don't have a crisis with this information.

That is a beautiful watch nevertheless. I am thankful to Japanese watchmaker's to allow people like me to buy and collect automatic watches without spending an arm and a leg.

I like the brand, and the aspiration, the pricing isn’t right, but it’s not a volume brand, and it’s tough to climb down to where 2nd hand prices are. I wear a Solo everyday as I like its simplicity, and I want an MBII and I have more time for Nick and Giles approach than Rolex’s tricks to limit supply,

A "hair under £18,000" for a Bremont? Er, no. No Thank you.

Am I the only one who think it’s a beautiful watch? 😂

This is obviously an Out house movement.

I don't care what any "purist" says....that could be a Sea Gull movement as far as I'm concerned....The fact it has a piece of the Wright Flyer in the rotor is absolutely amazing and an Arnold&Son movement is beyond outstanding in my book. I don't care what company owns who or who actually put the thing together, this thing is a serious slice of HISTORY!

"In-house" seems to me an odd criterion for evaluating watches. Quality can be assessed independently of that.

Please review BALL watches. I am quite intrigue by their design. They will be introducing in house movements with 80 hours power reserve and 80k anti magnet I think.

Panerai PAM 318 Special Edition "Brooklyn Bridge". Is that perhaps even a bigger scandal?

Really like that watch. And that shot through the ruby.... bravo. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Everything about the English brothers seems fishy. From their landing in Mr. Bremont field to deals with the Military seems dodgy at best. Instead of selling themselves as a watchlover’s watch, they have their marketing strategy completely wrong. The English brothers need to take a step back and let watch men run the company... oh, and it I mention their prices are massively too high?

The ébauche has been a feature of haute horlogerie for decades. The holy trinity of watches, Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, and Vacheron Constantin, have all used the same Jaeger-LeCoultre movements. Indeed, arguably the finest movement ever made, the V.C. P1008/BS, was based on a JLC ébauche. This is an accepted practice. Why this should cause a furore is beyond me.

I find it quite distasteful to be cutting up history like that to just place a small fragment in a watch. How much canvas did they acquire? How and where from?

The voice of breathy boy is pure affectation. It grates on my sensibilities but it seems fitting to recount the mock heroic story of those English boys. And of course it complements the monumental folly and pretence of the watch perfectly.

Worst then the Brooklyn Bridge debacle ?

Lovely and very informative video as always especially for an unknown brand (at least to me). Please review the titanium/platinum limited edition AP with blue on grey dial from 2017 🙏🏻

If they lie about the origins of the movement, how do we know they don’t lie about this piece of material?

£18000, if the bought in movement cost £5000+ it maybe worth it, if more likely it cost less than a £1000 then it is a rip-off, unless the Wright flyer fragmment cost thousands.

The base LaJoux Perret is also not fully original. It's based on a Valjoux and the chronograph removed. LJP puts their own bidirectional winding setup in the leftover space. The De-chronographed Valjoux is quite a popular base for other "in-house" movements. Habring2, Demasko, are two notables. The Valjoux 'tells' are the zig-zag jewel train, and the pair of uncentered screws on the ratchet wheel.

Who would be dumb enough to buy a Bremont, there are so many brands & models that are senior, for the same money

A Bremont doesn’t make my heart beat faster. Certainly not at that price tag..

You would have to be MAD to pay this much for this watch, totally off the wall nuts.

Bremont have a shop next door to Watchfinder at the Royal Exchange luxury shopping mall at St Paul London, is this a well executed sinister plan by Watchfinder? Personally I would not buy Bremont at such price point when there are brands with better heritage and craftsmanship.

Not enough history to be asking their stupidly high prices. They haven’t earned the right in my opinion.

For the money I would prefer to own a Grand Seiko with a superior pedigree.

It says "London" on the dial and movement. Pretty tacky.

How do you as a customer know for sure that is a genuine piece of the Wright Flyer? Since they already have a poor track record with truthfulness in regard to their movement, i'm not sure i'll buy into the Real Wright Flyer gimmick

This guy could sell me a heater in the dead of summer in the tropics of the Philippines.....

That’s a beautiful watch! Overpriced definitely, but it looks great. Amazing video quality and photography too, as always :)

I thought I saw one of those Bremont fellows hanging from the ceiling of the Smithsonian with a knife, taking shavings from the craft. More daring than the featured watch.

"and so when the watch community at large discovered that Bremont had called it 'in house', well...They went apeshit."

£18k? I don't think so (for what you get).

Bremont = awful bang for buck. They charge as if they were an in-house manufacture, when they're not.

Can't say the whole "in house" thing bothers me one way or another, quality is quality whoever makes it! Sweet watch, love the idea of a part of the Wright flyer in it. Cheers 👍👍

Bremont shite the bed a long time ago I don’t understand why we continue to talk about this brand as anything other than a fashion brand of Hollywood action films. The British renaissance of watchmaking is not coming through Bremont. In fact, Sinn and oris offer a better watch at a better price.

When you can't add real value, bring the bling!

Cut-off numerals is instant no for me..

Never really liked them. Overpriced and a bit up themselves.

Seiko ❤️ In house. Affordable. The same went for hmt until they died. :(

It’s been two years since this video, and eight years since the Wright Flyer debacle, and Bremont has still not recovered. Their disasterous Hodinkee damage control interview where they feigned ignorance at what “in-house” meant, was the inspiration for Prince Andrew’s similarly disasterous “I can’t sweat” interview years later

Great vid. You could do a similar story about the Panerai 318 Brooklyn Bridge limited edition

Junk. This is a waste of a brand. Move on. Nice video mate

I really want to like Bremont, but it’s a struggle. What they’ve achieved in a relatively short time is very impressive. And it would be great to see a British watchmaker making a serious mark on the horological world stage. But somehow there seems to be something a bit too smooth, too glib, about the way they market themselves and their pieces. The brand seems a bit contrived, as do some of their watches, and the ‘in house’ movement debacle was obviously a blow to their credibility. Anyway, cracking video, as usual.

Love the video, not keen on the watch, or the brand, even more so after watching this.

Watchfinder: please, what is the music in this video! I've been looking for years!

Bremont i pathetic to be honest. Thanks for not letting people forget.

Is this an in house movement, NO. Did Bremont lie to the public and state that it was, YES. The end. Trust this company with your money accordingly.

My "ETA inside" watch is an accuracy monster! I don't know how much more accurate I could expect a watch to be, short of atomic accuracy.

Awesome imagery , very well narrated and a must see every Wednesday and Friday.

I swear, not only is this my favorite RU-vid channel, but I could listen to you read the phone book.

For £18,000 that piece of cloth must be the shroud of Turin.

Love it as always! I‘d love to see a video covering the watches of Philippe Dufour! This man is a living legend.

Narrate my life, please.

Clickbait title. A nothing brand is not going to hold the title of "The Most Contraversial Watch Ever", in a modern sense that title would belong to the Apple watch, a device that really does divide opinions. The Audemars Code 11.59 would be a close second.

4:19 Piss poor finishing and they're asking THAT much for this? Unbelievable. I've seen better movement finishing on $2000 watches.

I really like the looks, but too highly priced...I go with Farer

Let's face it, the only thing that would make this watch remotely worth the asking price is that fragment of muslin and that's if the provenance is impeccable (as in would one of the major auction houses accept it). That said, why is it on the back? This is just a disaster of a watch all around really.

Not impressed by this watch brand at all

At a hair under $1800 it would be a bit of a bargain. Wait- what? 18 thousand? Pounds??? Nevermind.

While the movement is in-house from Arnold & Son, the dial design was ripped off in-house by Bremont from A. Lange & Söhne 😂

They should have called it a 'town house' movement.

I don’t mind Bremont, they do make some outstanding watches no doubt. This one looks superb, especially with the fragment of the original Wright bros plane. This makes it a very unique piece indeed. Arguably a better buy at around £18k than a gold Omega or Brietling say ?

The fragment inside the watch is also a rip-off of concept. In the case of Romain Jerome, it understood that since the brand was so new as to lack any patrimony, or heritage (a ridiculous point of pride in the horlogerie game) it would put 'history' inside its timepieces instead. I would be very curious about the origins of the textile, since RJ encountered controversy when attempting to explain the provenance of the moon rock contained in its limited edition collection - that it hadn't been stolen, or wasn't the genuine substance. The chain of custody would be interesting to verify, right down to each number in the collection. The idea is gimmicky to be sure - but even more so when the brand is Bremont and not RJ. Bremont is representative of everything wrong in the world of luxury timepieces - a gutsy enterprise producing gutless iterations, one after another.

Closest thing to Bremont controversy is them acting like they're an important brand. Or that the owners are good pilots. Or that their father was.

If you can't believe that it's an in-house movement, then can you believe that's a real piece of the Wright Flyer in there?

What is the significance of the still camera. My eyes all ways lean towards it for a few seconds before I stare at the fabulous watch on show!

I saw that watch with Concord pieces into the movement and the price ? 18k !! They need to tone it down

There's no chance in hell that's actually a piece of THE Wright Flyer. Maybe a Wright plane but not the one they made their first flight with. I'm pretty sure the Smithsonian would have noticed if someone had cut a chunk of fabric off the wing.

This must be the best watch related channel in RU-vid. Thanks for the stories you bring to us!

For £18,000 I think my personal favorite would be a JLC. This is a pretty watch, but it’s just priced too highly.

I'm never going to be able to afford a watch like this, but I really like the styling of the hands. It's quirky without being totally out there and having an actual piece of the White Brothers plane as part of the watch is amazing. And as high end watches go. It's a good price.

I thought it was a Vostok K-43 Classic on the thumbnail. They sell for around $110

Amazing watch... however the price is just too too much

As always, great video. The story about the formation of Bremont is not quite as you tell it. It’s beginnings are born out of a real tragedy. Possibly a slight disservice to Nick and Giles to glibly tell a story about them being forced to land a biplane in a French field. Look it up.

Who cares about in house movement as long as the watch is working fine and looks stunning.

Controversial or not, I like it.

The most controversial watch in history will be the Parnis Daytona. Fight me.

After listening the rumblings of politics and the talk of scoundrels in power, you listen this program and ten minutes later you are back to some sanity, works better than Valium and glass of champagne. Marvellous that such uploads exist.

4:39 - love the timing and the camerawork on that "blurred" jewel shot :-)

Craig Hester, the guy who sells crap Vostok Europe, sometimes develops theme watches. Right now they have a Berlin Wall watch with some grafitti copied from the wall on the dial and some small pebbles from the concrete of the wall fixed in the crown. It's crap, cheap crap, but still crap. Bremont is expensive crap imho.

The Bremont clearly is of higher quality than other watches and that's what they should have focused on than gimmicks. I have more respect than a Christopher ward than this brand.

Beautiful watch, hands, dial just beautiful. But for 18.000 £ a bit too much. Rather take a. Lange or patek. But gorgeous it is, and rare.

18 grand? Hell no You could pretty much buy 3 speedmaster with that money

Who cares the watch looks amazing. lol I do not understand the whinny controversy of it. Love the pilot's watches, and this one really stands out to me. I wish IWC would shrink the Big Pilot into a 40-42mm version with 100m water resistance and the same screw-down crown. I would love such a pilots watch with a price tag of 3-4K.

how do you make a watch more desirable ? slap another zero or 2 on the rrp.

Bremont Belle End is an overlooked timepiece

who else is tired of this guy's clickbait titles

Not for me. I’ll stick with a Rolex in house movement.

I'd like to see a enicar watch reviewed plssss🙏🙏🙏

Superb commentary. Interesting watch n the history warped into it, could listen to you all day.

LINDO Ê ÓTIMO RELÓGIO, BRASIL OK.

Two things irk me about Bremont, firstly although the watches are undoubtably of a good quality, there is far too much emphasis placed on selling them ‘as a piece of British history’...putting a bit of Concord/Spitfire/Wright into the watch infers the watch is both historical and British which which clearly isn’t true, further to that the factory in its new incarnation is placed in one of the most expensive areas in England, if it were to be re-located up North and the prices dropped accordingly then they would be more competitive against stiffJapanese/Swiss competition.