Actually, the eye contact thing is true. As a guy, whose caught his guy friends being flirty with girls, that's exactly what's going on. Prolonged eye contact does, most of the time, mean interest.
This is honestly a gendered double standard. I've seen women absolutely demolish men's self esteem. Also, in my opinion the worst is when women judge other women. Idc what men say, but other women, that ish hurts the most. I get this was about telling and sharing your experiences with men. But, they need to stop basing their worth on what men have to say about them. You dont like it, walk away and forget about it. You also need to get some new friends if they're letting people treat you like that. I'm getting tired of all this gender based ish, can't we just admit that people can be bad regardless of what sex they are.
Lmao imagine guys made tik toks about how girls treat them for not being conventionally attractive 💀 the comments would roast tf out of us....social suicide
@@seeksolace2059 then… make TikTokss lol? You still have men commenting under everyone of these type comments starting trouble. You’re gonna get backlash either way so just go for it.
Then...guys should make TikToks about their issues instead of trying to invalidate womens' negative experiences with saying "mEn Go ThROuGh tHe SaMe ThINg".
@@hawaiianrussian1047 Feminist also fought for their rights in the past? Why complain if your not gonna put work in. Why would people call you an incel if your actually sharing your experience and not being offensive about it. Most of the time where feminist bash men is when they act insensitive while providing their opinion and it sounds bad.
She's not lying she said that she gained the weight back in the video meaning that she worked differently before and so she got treated differently but now that she's gained the weight back she's being treated the same as she was before
I've never seen myself as ugly. The only time I've seen myself as unattractive is when I first gained weight. I never felt my face was unattractive but I hated my body. My weight has fluctuated over the years and as you get older it's alot harder to lose. I've learned to ACCEPT my body for where it is right now and when I motivate myself it will be because I want to FEEL HEALTHY not because I have a banging body. When I was small i was slim. Nice curves but no ass. Well a little. But no one can ever tell me I'm ugly because I know I'm not. They can call me fat all day long because I AM. That doesn't bother me. The fact is though that everyone is unattractive to SOMEONE. It's a matter of taste and what each person finds attractive.
So I’ve been conventionally ugly my entire life. I’m talking since puberty at 11yo. Fat, thin hair now, acne well into my 30s…and for me, it’s not what has happened but what HAS NOT happened. Pretty Privilege is incredibly real. I’ve worked with actual models at my day job (at a restaurant) and seeing how people treat them (women too!) makes me so damn envious. They get yelled at less, complimented on a good job way more, better treatment overall. Zero interest in me. I’m part of the decor at this point. Like yo it isn’t my fault I was born ugly 😭
I used to hate Dee, back during D&B, turns out I just wasn’t ready for an honest reactor. Now she’s the only reactor I watch for for her reaction and personality, unlike other who I watch for the video they are reacting to.
Mannnn yall have no idea! Being the gay friend basically means any guy that talks to you, is only talking to you to get close to your pretty bestfriend. It sucks so much but it's whatever.
What yall don't realize is the "pretty friend" does not want to be bothered by these ashy, dirty fingernails, bad breath men. They just want a free drink and to dance with their friends. While others are out what scoping for men that are out for a 1 night stand? Wild.
I think that most people aren't raised with a strong sense of self. If you're not raised to feel like you look good then other people's opinion of you can either build you up or tear you down. But if you already have it in your mind that you're attractive and not just on the OUTSIDE people will find you attractive. Confidence is VERY attractive. The people who are very confident in themselves, no matter how attractive they are, always attract attention because people want to be around that. Alot of people need to work on themselves so that the only opinion that matters is their OWN.
Okay but if you confidence and you know ur not attractive, ppl just gonna clown you, and say stuff like ‘you act like that and ur not even cute’ etc…after hearing stuff like that how you still have confidence
@@user-rn2sn4fj4z If you're a confident person then people clowning you shouldn't bother you. But when you're truly confident you don't surround yourself with people like that because they're so miserable they want to bring you down to their insecure ass level. Never have people like that in your circle and stay off of social media if that's where you're finding alot of negativity.
I thought it was hilarious how one year at school guys thought i was ugly because i wore glasses and didnt wear makeup. The next year i got contacts and wore ONLY eyeliner and all of a sudden those same guys started hitting on me. Haha. I laughed in their faces.
@@graysonallen8723 Its supposed to be funny to me. So yes. They want to treat me like shit and like im ugly and bully me one year then the next try to fuck me.. yeah its fucking hilarious. I dont care what your opinion is on this because you didnt live my life.
People date who they are attracted to, simple, I don’t understand why they call men trash, beautiful women do the same thing to unfortunate looking men
It’s completely fine to go after the person that you’re attracted to, that would be the most logical thing to do. But like a lot of these girls explained, I’ve seen a lot of men ignore or disrespect the girls that they’re not attracted to simply cause they don’t want them. But you can’t tell me that you can’t be human to a person simply cause of the way that they look
It's not even about dating or being wanted. But being treated like a person, Like they aren't asking them to flirt with them , just the bare minimum of courtesy, like it could even be highly friend zone vibes, but they not even doing that
I feel like men who complain about the same kind of treatment are treated like social outcasts and rejects who we call “incels.” I don’t get why we don’t have any sympathy for them, but we’re expected to have sympathy for the female equivalent. I’m sorry, but I’ll say the same thing that I say to incels. Get over it. No one owes you attention or acknowledgment. If you’re being disrespected unwarranted that’s one thing, but if you’re being ignored, then welcome to reality. Move on with your life.
There’s a difference. Incels are usually going after the woman, pursuing romantic interest. This is about being treated subhuman just because of what you look like. E.g Imagine your in school, working on a project with a girl and another dude. Your trying to work with your group, but the girl is completely ignoring your input and only talking to the other guy who’s better looking. She’s talking about splitting the work into parts with the other guy, but doesn’t even look at you and cuts you off. You’re not trying to hit on her or anything, just get your work done. Yeah lol. You can brush it off but you can’t say it’s not wrong. Funny you mention incels, have you ever been in one of their sites or communities? Just disgusting content. Incels are by definition, people who can’t get sex. These girls aren’t looking for sex, their looking for human decency, yeah some of them were doing to much, but in general treating people less human because of their looks is wrong
@@remi427 Incels don't pursue anything, if they did, they probably wouldn't be incels. If you've ever listened to any of them talk, they complain about the EXACT same things that you're talking about. They talk about being ignored and being social outcasts because of the way they look/status, etc. Not being able to establish human connections. They aren't just looking for sex, and that simplification/generalization is the exact dichotomy I'm talking about. We have zero sympathy for them and typecast them as all sex-fiend rejects with zero nuance into how they actually think. I disagree that ignoring someone is treating them as "less human." The truth is, if you're attractive, you get special treatment not human treatment. So, using the attention that attractive people get as a basis for the way you think all people should be treated is foolish.
@@biggrimdog8825 I mean, they would have to had pursued something to feel that way? The actual definition of incel is what I said, so that’s why I used that. You disagree that ignoring someone isn’t treating them less human? I agree, that’s not what I said. But shouldn’t incels take that into account too then? Who are they being ignored by? If I’m being honest most of the guys seem to have been rejected by girls and blame it on the world and become closed off. Shouldn’t they also take your last bit of advice? Also the part where I said to look at their sites… you really should. Maybe then you’d get why we label them as bad people.
@@hawaiianrussian1047 Wanted to get my point across. Most of the guys you’re talking about start arguments in a place where it wasn’t needed and do it under literally every comment, that’s why the get bashed. The guy I’m talking to asked a question, so I’m answering.
@@remi427 I’ve seen the subreddits and sites, and I do think they should take my advice. I have very little sympathy for them, which is why I’m saying what I’m saying. Have you seen FDS or other female spaces like that?
I feel like the first girl probably curbed alot of guys who may have been genuinely interested in her because of an isolated event or two. I've had larger friends that were more on guard because of their weight and the perception but she had alot of guys that def were into her, and she was approached a lot, and it seemed beyond some idea of fetishism, she had an awesome personality. Be careful out there, not everyone is out to get you
@@roxassora2706 not what I said I personally haven’t had it done to me, but there are girls who become friends with guys and then inch towards their better looking friends and even sometimes siblings. It’s messed up but it happens both ways.
When I pass to a group of guys, weather I’m buying groceries or at the mall with the family they started avoiding me and laughing. Tbh it made me feel less about myself. Tho some group of woman do that to me too so I’m just ugly
not me, ive dated women all sizes. but it comes down if i dont like you, i dont like you. you can be super model hot, if i got no intertrest, dont hate
As a guy I've known and been around chicks who blame shit on being fat or ugly why guys over look them or not being chased..... But sometimes those chicks be downers.horrible attitudes, no personality
I mean Idk, Im a bigger girl, but men still hold the door for me, or go out of their way to help me without asking. IDK if her size was the reason, it could have been her confidence.
Oh please. Stop doing the pick me think just to pretend other women are making up a UNIVERSAL experience. Men never do it back for women. So just stop.
idk why people don't know the most guys will look at appearance first when approaching someone. they not gonna know anything about personality or views of a person until they get to know them.
The thing is you don't have to treat people badly or unkindly cause you aren't attracted to them, all men aren't bad, these ladies were just talking about their experiences.
8:17 if y'all don't understand what she means by that like if you've never felt that pain before, I'm happy for you. It's a different feeling over there
The point is not about being desirable it's a fact that people don't treat people who are unattractive or who they find to be unattractive with basic human decency kindness or respect at all Basically it's like what Melanie Martinez said "don't be dramatic it's only some plastic no one will love you if you're unattractive "
Lol this is called life yo.. these things happen and it’s worst for men cuz we’re expected to experience rejection and infinite insults before we ever get a girl and accept it..
Rejection shouldn’t be the problem. There are nice ways to reject people. In this video, women are talking about being rejected in an extremely messed up way. Men acting in an inhumane way to someone just because they don’t find them attractive, as if they’re someone who gets a kick out of being rude to someone they deem lower-valued than them or what they want. On some real, weird, sadistic shit. The same would apply to women who don’t reject people nicely (excluding when a mf is trying to press her into ‘giving them a chance’ of course). That’s the issue.
@@efesamueligbudu2241 ignoring someone is rude. And did you not read anything that I wrote? 💀 clearly not. Idk why you’re explaining about women acting trash when rejecting men despite the fact that I addressed that and held them to the same standard, so your point? Get your reading comprehension up
I don't know why women complain about this so much, YALL GOT IT EAASSSYYYY dealing with MEN. Nevermind the fact that men have MUCH lower standards generally, and don't go to HR for unwanted flirting from women we find unattractive, or that Men don't have corporately backed movements like #MeToo. But Men are USUALLY nice and very mature if a woman he finds unattractive approaches him, WOMEN on the other hand can get very SADIST1C when they reject men they find unattractive....like Im talking IGNORING you while you're talking to her AT BEST, and PUBLICLY humiliating him at WORST (like Im talking GOING OUT OF HER WAY to try to break the guy's spirit because he dared to try to talk to her).......count your blessings, yall don't realize how good yall got it.
@@Gummybearkillerr i was just about to say that, he probably is another incel woman hater. As if men don't have the whole #mensmentalhealthmatters movement. Don't get me wrong I understand about women being extra when it comes to rejecting someone. But let's not sit here and act like if a mediocre girl or fat girl said they were interested in a guy he wouldn't do the most and reject her, only to then openly laugh about it with his friends too. Men literally hit up fat chick's when they're horny because he couldn't get the girls he actually wanted, as she probably rejected him. So he's relying on the fat girl to have low self esteem and considers her an easy beat. What he flat out implied was, women should just be grateful with men giving them attention regardless. When 90% of the time the attention men give to women is superficial, no where near genuine and IS for convince💀. Unfortunately the game is the game, both sides are partially guilty. Now go have a seat son🤫
@@vibez.no.cartel with your logic even fat abs ugly girls get human connection with the other gender but a lot of certain men can’t even get one feel to look their way.women experience is much easier when it comes to dating than guys .
@@efesamueligbudu2241 LOL. If you enjoy being lied to for the man's sexual gains and only their sexual gain. Then feel free to identify as a woman, it's 2022. You can come out the closest, we not judging💀🤫🤣
The key point I’m picking up is a lot of the women are saying hot guys. They not talking about the average dude which I know pay women attention, also it depends on what a guy is looking for at the time maybe there just wasn’t a connection or vibe doesn’t mean they don’t find those women unattractive it just means there was no connection
No trust me, even the ‘ugly’ guys don’t got to ‘ugly’ girl because they think they are better and ugly give never lower their standards, compared to women, there so many pretty girl with average/‘ugly’ guys, you’ll never see the opposite
Yoo its really not that serious. As a guy, try walking up on a girl who doesn't find you attractive. That shit will ruin all your self esteem. Most of the time, women just wait for a guy who is interested in them to come along, and he will, but as a guy, you have to make things happen and being shot down maybe 10 times in a row can be disheartening
Beauty standards are different in certain communities because black women (especially ones growing up around white people) have a lot of experiences of being ignored or treated less than.
Most of these people are conventionally attractive so it makes it seem like they just guys weren’t the guy’s type. Obviously you should acknowledge the girls but I feel like it sends the wrong message to be super friendly to all of the friends if you’re only interested in one of them.
I used to use their silence/ignoring/not wanting to make eye contact to steal their leadership role from them and if they were upset being usurped I would point out their anger to the hottest girl there in confusion so it ruins his chances with her and spreads to the others before he can react. Then his is beta'd and lost all prospects. Sometimes he will even come back around to you as an opener back into the group. Ignore him like he ignored you :)
The prompt should be “Unconventionally attractive “ …. it’s current setup is self-deprecating and not cool to the participants . Interesting experiences tho!
1:00 She’s really gonna be hurt when she find out that her friends are in on it. And have been expecting her to play that role for their benefit for as long as it’s been working for them. But I understand, females perspective , validate, all that good stuff
@@mikedabeast360 It's not funny to joke about someone that went through lung cancer😐 If that was your mother, would you call her a transformer as well? Do some research please!
@@oOOOo33-q5q How was I supposed to know that person has lung cancer? I'm just calling what I see & hear. U attacking me like u know me, yet others in the comments joking on the 3rd person too. So don't judge me like I'm the only one GTFOH!!! 😠
@@hawaiianrussian1047 you sound bitter and angry for no reason. Where not talking about imaginary people who you claim to exist ,where talking about what's going on in the comment section. Noone else is making this a men vs woman situation,and when is being gay bad?
@@hawaiianrussian1047 mkay have a good day sir. You clearly can't focus on this comment tread to disprove my original comment. Your too focused on what people are supposedly doing on other sites,have fun.
some people here gave me a headache, making no sense, they have to be high... Olivia stop being petty haha like, i dont think the situation was all that... that one delusional girl making conspirancy theories... omg...
TBH this whole vid sounded a bit like a pity party. I 1000% understand the disheartening thing personally but...we gotta start looking inwards, at the end of the day why are these things so important to you, why do you hold in such high esteem the attention that a man pays you, or should I say does not pay you? Especially since these women are referencing these scenarios about "hot guys", "semi-attractive men" etc...not to say it never happens, but I didn't hear from any of these stories where the guy goes out of his way to randomly and vindictively attack the woman personally, only one I felt off with was the "friend" who had no reaction to her being harassed. But think...do you yourself just pay special attention to people you don't find attractive or are not interested in or don't have some established relationship to?
Most of these women you can tell they’re extremely annoying who wants to continue talking to that. Especially the ones who get the “I’m the fat friend” mentality they’re usually the mean or angry looking ones so men find the friendlier face
i can tell you're annoying as well. How can you judge someone based off a small clip of them expressing their hurt? Its also not a mentality but most likely reality for them in their friend groups
the ones who were saying they were fat were the black ones. Just say it, you hate how black women look. They have a right to not have the friendliest face. Its called get over it, be a man and have balls.
@@hankorhenry9156 I'm convinced you're trolling cause you are really just saying anything just to be seen and heard. Ion know how you pulled a random assumption from 8 words but sure 👍🏾😂. And you're whining in a RU-vid comment section about women. Grow a pair and have a nice day
My BF accidentally misgendered a guy at a fast food drive-thru a couple of days ago and we had to awkwardly pull up to the window and get our food. I just know he spit in our food lol
Ain’t that a scary thought lol it’s not being rude that gets you paranoid bout your food but accidentally misgendering someone I had that happened once dude was mad I didn’t wanna eat my food anymore just in case he was that mad
Women are shallower than men, stop playing these games. Men are concerned with looks and weight. Women are concerned about looks, weight, penis size, height, the car he drives, where he lives, the job he has and how much money he makes, can he take her on expensive dates, can he take her on vacation, can he take her shopping, can he pay to get her hair/ nails and feet done etc.
The video was a question and they stitched the video and answered. So yes the point is to talk about your personal problems. Nobody asked you to go fix the problem
