The New 2020 Toyota Supra TRACK TESTED! - One Take 

Hahaha especially since half my feed is everyone that did the audio podcast last week on smoking tire lol

Where the hell I'd the Porsche?

Supra reviews. Supra reviews EVERYWHERE. Lol

Baaaaadly. Watched this one first though.

I literally just said this

Unusedcheetah29 hahahah

Sameeee lol

Just buy one used from the factory bucko

Unusedcheetah29 this is the best comment I’ve read!! Looking at the bright side out of all the hate

it's kinda fugly I don't like the side profile and fake vents ugh

Nice reference. What's the retail on one of those?

@@texasBMXer More than you can afford pal.

haha, smoked the Ferrari and they didn't even hit the NOS.

CockatooDude I mean it really is, 50k is a lot of money for the supra.

@@kaziadz Wtf no its not a MK4 was around $45-60k at its time. Take into inflation its even more expensive now.

Lol. Nice reference.

JZA 80 tho

Lmao 😂

I was scrolling down to see if someone had already payed hommage. Too late. #mastadriva

Samz Bkam lmao

Right lol

right.

I fuckin hate it. I pay RU-vid so I don't have to waste my time watching stupid ads, and I support good creators on patreon so they don't have to pull shit like this shill. I'm only here by accident because I'm likely to buy a supra and am watching all the reviews. Thanks for reminding me why I unsubscribed from the smoking tire. Ps. I do otherwise like Matt he's a good guy.

Haha "plug into your GERMAN car" lollllllll hahahahahaahhahaha

Why?

@@kendall9758 because a turbo frs/brz/86 would be around this price and be able to perform about the same? I am not stating facts, only telling my thoughts.

No, it doesn't.. the idea of the 86 was to be a well-balanced, responsive N/A engine.

@@MrZachthezman The engineers from toyota once said they would have to design a new chassis and gearbox capable of coping with bigger forces and more rigidity if they would increase the power, and re-engineer the vehicle dynamics. I saw chris Harris compare the 86GT to the nismo 370z and he preferred the underpowered 86 because it is a better designed driving experience. more power is not always more fun or value if the driving experience suffers.

@@Dave.S.TT600 you are right.

embargo lifted mon

@@alexander1485 Yeah that wasn't my issue, just a lot of reviews all covering the same car to watch. Hah

another boring toyota, 335 hp out of a turbo engine is NOT that great.

@@alexander1485 it's closer to making that at the wheel and you can snag a jb4 and tune the car up to 415-420 at the wheel for not much money. And it should be obvious this isn't a drag car and far nice than any Mustang or camaro.

Id still take an infiniti q60 over this

I always thought Sasquatch but I'm not a professional zoologist so I could be wrong.

Matt "Stats and statistics" Farrah

Bob...I like your work both in print and with primates.

Matt would throw out his back picking up a roll of paper towels, certainly not great ape tier.

hi trolling dickheads. i like comments on so maybe find another dumping ground

Toyota has said that if the demand is great enough after a lil while they will consider it

That and the fake vents are the real disappointments for me, not the BMW hardware. Hopefully a refresh adds a manual and refined styling

They are considering it

I hate that these all come in automatic. Such a disappointment for a sports car much as so with the Dodge Hellcats and Demons. I get it... But I don't like it.

Jacoby Jupiter some hellcats come manual

Aww baby misses their manual milk... shh it’s okay.

You're going to trigger little paper bench-markers who don't know how to drive manual. They might call you a "geezer!" That being said, the ZF is a great trans.

It’s not like you’d buy one if it had a manual option

@@Thyrion07 ya he'd trade his yaris in for this with 1000 dollar payments for like 300 months

you cant afford anyways

Same, I must have watched 8 vids already

David As a BMW driver, I actually find it pretty refreshing to see a B58 with toyota quality control hahaha (not that BMW engines are actually that bad on their own)

@@Sandia49 Shit is bmw QC worse than toyota / bad in general?

Vitoman901 Not necessarily. It depends, really. BMW spends tons of money developing new engines and platforms for each new generation of car. I actually have a theory that that's part of what reduces the reliability, because with a German car, you are an early adoper of some sort of new technology no matter what model you get (but that's beside the point). They also spend millions of dollars making sure the doors open and shut just right, making sure each button clicks just right, the suspension and steering feel just right, and so on. Ironically, they even spend money making sure the blinker stock feels perfect even though nobody will use it, haha. The thing is that BMW's quality control is about the reliability of the car to a reasonable degree, but most of the effort goes toward the performance and the tactile feeling you get when interacting with the car if that makes sense. BMW engines are generally built pretty solid, but there's always those things that they either overlook or engineer to the cheapest degree they can while still maintaining the driving experience. Long story short, BMWs are exceptional drivers cars but little problems will start popping up if the user isnt extra dilligent with the preventative maintenance. It doesn't mean the cars are lemons (the B58 has been a great engine so far actually), but Toyota and Lexus are definitely known to last longer. The partnership pretty much results in a car that will theoretically be exciting to drive and tuner friendly like a BMW, but reliable like a Toyota!

I don't mind the BMW/Toyota combination. I just hate the ugly side profile and the lack of a manual transmission. If I had the money, I'd buy a used cayman.

William Brown I think the car looks a little funky too, and I'm surprised there wasn't more done to make the interior look a bit more Toyota-like. I agree though, I use an automatic myself, but it's still kind of strange seeing BMWs (and by extension, Supras) without a manual especially since the automatic was barely a second thought just a fee years ago. I also agree that however good the supra is, you definitely can't go wrong with a Porsche haha

also body rolling lol

Probably (hopefully) the TRD V6. Toyota has been trying to spice up its line a bit along with the Supra. There's even a TRD Avalon 😂

The V6 one has 300HP! It ain't no slouch, even though it's fairly hideous.

@@McNasty43 I almost lost in a quick drag in my STI he did pull first but I eventually pulled him in but still

@@McNasty43 hideous?? I love the new body. I would argue it looks just as good, if not better than the supra

Wait to see what after market does?

How many 2jz are there even left?!

@@mehmetcan7488 A lot ... considering there were lot of vehicles they put those in

I doubt that, the 2jz is crazy expensive plus finding a manual trans to fabricate in will be a hand full. I would wait till they start modding that BMW's M58 motor. Can easily see 500-600hp with turbo, fuel, and tune.

I think the wiring will deter others. I think the b58 will become a tuners engine

Obviously you don't have a wife

The lack of a manual transmission, combined with that ugly nose will keep me from buying one.

Or it's a manual so she can drive it. I drive stick daily. What's with the prejudice?

Good for you. Here’s a 🍪

Ohh nooo an automatic its almost like every single supercar including the gtr aren't basically all 100% autos aswell lol

I feel like that stupid cop-out excuse is so tired since being used on the Miata since it's creation. It's like they think you can only use 100% throttle or 0%; it's not an on-off switch and if it doesn't add weight it will NOT affect the "balance" of the car. It's been the single most complained about part of the Miata and it's not surprising it will be on the Supra as well. I guess every other sports car on the planet is just "not balanced."

@@cavedog1279 If you can only use 75% of the throttle coming out of a corner versus 100%, it'll absolutely upset the balance of the car. If the suspension, tyres, and aero aren't designed for a certain level of power, that added power will just be useless.

@@cavedog1279 Sorry dude, you dont know much about driving a car at the limit of the suspension & tire.

@@banddude121 so true balance is important.

In fact, Tada San (chief engineer) said it. Power is limitless and very easy to achieve. The most important thing to them is the overall balance of the car.

facts

Why?

@@boatymcboatface666 Turbo and easily modded. Drinks less too if you're not mobing on it.

@@boatymcboatface666 Power, toruqe tunability. The 86 would be awesome with the BMW 4 cyl but I doubt it would ever happen

or a VW 4cyl into it

Quadcore14 people are getting 600hp stock on the bmw motors. They’re very capable but people are stuck in the 90s and don’t want evolution. All the new Supra needs is a manual option for the purists.

@@zolphdiggler Manuals are great but even when you look at the mk4 supra numbers auto were really popular so... also that ZF 8 speed box is going to be great for 99% of buyers and therefore no accountant is going to allow a manual to be developed.

Quadcore14 idk about 99% probably about 60% of buyers want a auto

Anthony mean while you can get 800 bhp with stock internals with the 2jz But thats not the point people are annoyed about, people buy a Toyota because they want a Toyota and not a bmw. I just wanted it to be a manual :-(

@@Chris-us8yq yeah I may have been a bit generous with that figure but you get my point. When it comes down to people with the money to spend, it will probably not be the major deciding factor after the test drive.

Yeah, the bad thing is that they actually tried to implement the concept's design with all the wrong proportion. It is too short with too short wheel base and too high. Looks hideous in my opinion.

Here's what I don't understand; how is it supercars can look like literal science fiction shit from the future with some of the craziest front and rear ends AND be street legal? There was absolutely nothing about the GR concept that couldn't be done on a production car that was somehow so insane that it beat supercars in what's "street legal." People keep saying front and rear collision requirements or whatever bs, but you've got the '19 ZR1, or the Ford GT, with ridiculously pointed front ends or gaping vents. Hardly anything that could even be considered a "front bumper." Anywho, aside from my distaste for a high percentage of actual BMW part numbers that can be found all over this Supra, what Toyota ended up making is a car with visually odd proportions (zero mention of performance). From any angle it just looks like things were either shrunk, or pulled all to fit within some arbitrary "box," rather than keeping AT LEAST the proportions of the GR. Which by comparison those proportions were sleek, attractive and actually cohisive bringing the entire design together. This is not that.

Hell it does look pretty close to the concept - more so than alot of concepts and productions we see. They did a great job transferring that concept into production i think as far as styling goes..

Loopsrainforest say that on Reddit and they will come for you with torches and pitchforks

Everyone says they want one until it actually comes to buying the car.

@@CockatooDude FAX

Its terrible. I mean, its a great Z4, but a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE "supra".

@@maybelive765 Why though? It's a lot better than the last Supra was both value wise and performance wise.

Imagine when going e85, 500+ hp

@@jreydelacruz engine cant handle that

you better believe it. 420-435 WHP just from a flash and map is gonna be the first thing to happen on every Supra sold lol. Mission Performance has a B58 at 630WHP with just a bigger turbo and injectors/meth injection support. 630WHP in a car this light gives you a better weight/power ratio than the hellcat redeye. Give it a year or two and the scene is going to get real interesting

@@1994SHOtime I'm a v8 american muscle guy, but this car had me drooling🙌

@Peder Hansen links or false

And if he's sitting in the middle?

Most likely coming at some point later aka few years.

@@Rentta Most likely not. BMW are fully out of the manual game and living that slushbox life.

@B. C. We care

buckleyjteams you could call up Quaife or Samsonas.

Its marketing. Manual will come later so you can trade in your auto for it.

Be careful what you wish for if you can grow hair on your bicep you could weave an Indian rug with your ass hair

Clutch Carabelli 😂😂😂😂😂

No you don't.

And pubes.

Matt pharra will be on sale at the bed bath and beyond welcome matt area

and doesnt bitch out with no manual

Uriah Siner that’s not going to happen obviously but sad af

@@sir2honda oh great another stick-shift whiner. theres a reason most cars don't have manual anymore, y'know

They dont have an inline 6

@@Dawood4 News in the last few days is theyre planning/working on one

Wow, when you put it that way it sounds blasphemous. I’ve just downgraded my opinion of this car. I guess that in order to justify the business case on this car they had to partner with BMW. Shame. But it does sound good!

2.5 tfsi would make an s2k a rocket. eveyone needs to chill and be more open minded.

ibanezmetal16 id be open minded about the s2k if it comes with a 9k redline

@@medogabr9952 That sounds closed minded to me.

ibanezmetal16 i drive a 340i. I love the b58. I truly desire the mk5 supra and cant wait to see the supra tunes come out cuz im totally gonna use them on my car

I thought of the z4 as stubby and boring until i saw it in person. Looks long and clean as fuck inside and out. Although it doesnt have much of an identity. If this supra looks anything like the z4 then it def looks very good in person.

Preference I guess, I like it a lot

Someone already did it and its awesome

Even if you had the money would you pick it over a Stingray, GT350 or Cayman? If you can afford this Supra then you can afford any of those other cars.

@@jjsmithlago1234 nobody wants to buy american shitboxes

At this price, it is more affordable that the MKIV was when it was on the market when adjusted for inflation by several thousands of dollars. In 1996 the MKIV Supra Turbo was $50,400. In current dollars, that would be over $89,000. It was too costly for the general public. Just have to wait a few years for the used Supras to hit the market.

I'm shocked Bushido hasn't posted a triggered millennial comment about milk and manuals.

Yep, lifted at 6pm eastern according to Rob Dahms video

Without supra, I wouldn't be a master driver

@@ChrisP576 How the hell did he deserve to drive it? Hes not an automotive journalist.

Sherlock Holmes

What do you mean by embargo

If it was like the Supra it would be dope

Yeah it’s mainly 1 series and 3 series parts inside 😞

What the hell was Toyota thinking when deciding to bring back the Supra?? O lets be lazy and just borrow the design from a Germán manufacturer??😳😳

jj martin what’s wrong with bmw interior? Its miles better than any Toyota interior . Glad they decided to put bmw interior at least it’s not cheap plastic everywhere and it has I drive definitely worth every penny now

FELiPES101 - And a nuts spoiler, hopefully

FELiPES101 in like 5 years I think

Trd with s58 from new m3 😉

@@p00ner1sm itd be cool if they brought back the mk4 supra wing as a throwback

just like we got a TRD 86? oh wait...

You mean BMW nailed it.

@@richpryor9650 BMW certainly didn't, just go find reviews of the new z4.

But who really wants one? Not me

The Truth me!

If i could afford one, I would!

Jesse Graas No, you won’t.

ZF transmission is really good

Define "fucked it up"? Because Its almost sold out globally...

Ya think you're looking for the lfa, its the supra u wanted

M2 will eat the Supra's lunch, but at a higher price.

The comp and the og m2 will eat this for lunch. This supra seems like a m240i tbh. Don’t get me wrong, I love the 240.

Yes! This could be a good option for those who want more sports car and less track car. I think the Supra also looks a lot more interesting than the hopped up 2 series.

M2 Competition would destroy this, that car is M4 fast. Think the standard M2 is a better comparison.

@@tonyb8066 don't be so sure

Yep like the TT 300zx; sport touring. 150 mph sure but drives like a sofa from the factory.

Aha, that’s why many GTR owners swap their engines for 2jz

@@imOJOmran exactly that's why LS swap everthing. Keep the 2jz engine throw away lame mk4 supra. New or old supra is just a GT car 300hp (lame) with F&Furious syndrome.

Yep, Japanese Camaro.

@Dragos BotaEngine is awesome, I was referring to the car. I don't think is a great sports car, F&F movie made it to be excessively glorified all fan boys really. Very similar like with the civic

ah so it wasn't just me who noticed this. lol

Sometimes u need both, especially when reviewing a car that is technically a diffrent car?!?!?!?

@@spick625 stat is short for statistic.

@@charlieaydin1377 yes..... i know. I implied he used both stats and statistics because the supra is also a bmw. U know like a humorous turn of phrase or a joke!

@@spick625 your humor was clearly wasted on my simple mind, friend 😅

Noah Dunn I totally agree. That's why Savagegeese is so cringy. Nobody cares about that kinda stuff and he just seems like he's trying too hard to be a dick to seem manly.

Peder Hansen I half way agree. Chris Harris is amazing

Nah. The cars are just getting smaller.

Luke Becker turgid, are we?

Unsubscribe if you don’t like it

@@theclueguy3388 you can do the same if you don't like my comment lol. A sportier version of this car which might carry a premium cost on top can be called enthusiasts car. It's fine lets se what the others say about this car (Chris Harris)

This has quickly become one of my go-to cars in GT Sport VR. It breaks traction easily but super well balanced so it's easy to play with, a ton of fun, and confidence inspiring which results in quite respectable lap times. Really wish I could swing a 2 seater IRL. This would be way up on the short list.

fondfarewell2 ! - it looks very scary, I’ve never seen Matt slide all over the track like a maniac this much. No way.

You're complaining too though

@Commentor1 his trip was paid, but not his opinions.