I was set on getting the Rise and was planning how to slacken and add travel, but as soon as this launched it basically did everything I was planning. Definitely worth a few pounds.
bought one, it fell apart like a clown car.I now own an ornament and after Orbea abandoned their customer have to take the company who sold it to court. It has done 700 miles, my specialized has 35 times the milage. they now have the same ammount of faliures, only the orbea did this riding mainly along a canal. When things go wrong, you find out what the company is really like. Just wanted a relaible bike.
@@anthonywalters7434 Wow... if that's a pattern I'm gonna have to cross them off my short list. If a company can't stand behind their product, there's just no way I'd ever do business with them.
Really considering this, just picked up a fs Occam carbon, and thing is a SHREDDER. I can just imagine how good this WILD will be! looking at this at the shop soon!
Awesome bike! You guys should also consider for your next shootout that Unno Mith, same travel, mullet, and with a 750 battery at 49.6 pounds. Seen it in flesh, the design and the quality are out of this world. Waiting for your proper review on the Orbea!
@@topspot4834 I live in Europe and the availability here is quite great. My LBS alone has already sold 4 Mith and has 2-3 on order to be delivered within February or on March at maximum. The pictures don’t show how impressive the frame is
I'm 5ft and have a 2020 H20...with a few adjustments, I've made it fit me. I LOVE 29ers! I love the internal battery for 2023. I never take my battery out anyway. Mine is still going strong so I'll just save $$ to get something in a few years.
Hello, i ordered my wild on 18/03, still waiting... Is this normal for Orbea? Should i start looking for another bike? Just mad the best of a summer without a new bike... hope that i can rode it by next year!
I am in the same boat as you with a xl rail, my problem with the Trek is that the seat doesn't go down as low as I want but paying closing attention to the video doesn't seems that this Orbea will solve my problem, steps in Laguna are really step.🤣😂 Any suggestion anyone?? Cheers!🍻
@@DanTheMan_75 have you tried a large rail with a longer stem and maybe some riser bars? I’ve ridden an XL before and know what you mean about the seat tube being pretty tall. I’m 5’11” and I ride a large. I also have a friend who’s 6’2” and rides a large rail. It can fit a good range of people.
Hey Drew and Robert, any thoughts on how the new Wild rides compared to the Gen 3 Turbo Levo? I've had an S-Works Turbo Levo for a year and am intrigued by the lower weight and full-29er aspect of the Wild. Help me decide if I should swap my TL for the Wild! Thanks much guys. 🙂
Wow, that is a tough one and two very awesome bikes (of course our time on Orbea is limited!) From a "riding and descending primarily, perspective, the bikes have very similar feels from suspension platform. From there you start looking at Bosch vs Specialized motor, price, parts, customization and dealer support/value. When bikes get really close performance wise, those end up being the determining factors for us anyways. You'll have to stay tuned for the long term review or the Shootout and we'll know more then!
Nice intro review Drew and crew! How did the Wild feel at Syncline compared to the SC Bullit? Similar feel or Wild more nimble in the rocks up and down?
Thanks for asking and to be totally fair, it's a bit early for us to make that call! We only rode this bike a short while to film this video, BUT, it is very promising. Arguments could be made very easily for both bikes depending who you talk to, but as of right now, Drew and Robert would likely go with the Orbea for the terrain and riding style they prefer.
I would take a serious look into Orbea's customer service before doing business with them. I'm not saying they're good or bad, I really don't know, but I did a quick Google search after reading a couple negative reviews, and Trustpilot was full of people having similar experiences. That said, I wouldn't think people go out of their way to leave a review if they're not having any issues, so people are more likely to write a bad review than a good one. Plus that's the only review site I went to, so take it with a grain of salt. Worth investigating though, and I'd personally get the 160e ... Love Orbea's color customization but that headset cable routing is an automatic deal breaker for me.
Drew, I have a 2021 Orbea Wild in large. I'm looking to get the new 2023 Wild but am on the fence with which size to go with due the change in geometry. The reach on the 2021 large is 455cm. The reach on the new 2023 medium is also 455cm. The reach on the 2023 large jumps to 480cm. On top of that, the wheelbase is 6.8cm longer on the new large. That's pretty significant. I ride mostly trail and enduro. I'm just a hair under 5'11". I see you're 5' 11". What size did you test ride? Would you recommend going with, the medium or the large and why?
@@fzr1000981 I sent the same question to Orbea support and didn't get a response either so I used the R.A.D. method and went with medium. I'm still waiting for my bike. I'm keeping my fingers crossed I made the right choice. I hope they have better response record on more critical questions.
@briangoedland9097 I'm going L because the previous gen Wild was too cramped and I fit in the L window on the Orbea size chart. Let me know how it works out for you
I’m really curious to know why @orbeabike, the leader of light eMTB market, decided not to design an “Enduro Rise” with the EP8 RS motor but the they left the lightweight enduro category to other players such as the Specialized Kenevo SL and the new Transition Relay. @the loam wolf, can you ask this question to Orbea designer and product manager?
Anyone have a problem with the Bosch speed sensor? Mine failed, and it’s annoying such a little part makes it unrideable! Under warranty but still a fail. I bought it because the Bosch is supposed to be the best unit out?
on the previous generation bike, you could take a second battery with you for long rides, but here you are limited. also on the previous generation, no one complained about the lack of frame rigidity
WTF I just noticed that after reading this. That's an automatic deal breaker ... And why would they do that on an ebike? Maybe cause it appeals to older riders who don't know any better or think it looks cool?
@@TheLoamWolf interesting, thanks for the feedback, tbh I think I’ll go spectral if it’s the more playful of the 2. I’ve got a 25kg trance with 800wh that takes me anywhere, so looking for more of a hooligan 😁
Take it with a grain of salt...Robert is 6'2 and Drew is 5'11. They each had different feelings on which bike is more playful, likely due to reach and the weight of the 900Wh battery. Either way though, it's safe to say we'd both likely opt for the Wild.
Looks great, but the bike has one significant drawback: the clanking motor. I like the bosch for its climbing but hate when it runs downhill. I've sold the bike with bosch for that clunking sound.
Not sure, but we would safely assume the base alloy model to be 5-7+ pounds heavier than the M-LTD model we tested. We'll reach out to Orbea though and see if we can't get a definitive answer.
I'm just curious, why it took half a decade !! for Orbea (other brands too, however new Wild is 2 years behind Specialized Turbo Levo gen3 !) to create ebike with decent geometry ??? (comparing to my analog bike from 2018, which is quite similar). Is it because ebikes were targeting (were designed for) sunday warriors/MAMILs before and not for racing/professionals/aggressive riders ? and now, when ebikes started to be more popular among fast riders, it's time to make them more aggressive ? Controls looks way better than before, but still not as smooth as on Levo
@@fzr1000981 not true, recently Levos were on massive discounts. And Levo has WAYYYYY better feeling, more natural. Bosch delivers power in very abrupt way. and integration....what integration???? look at Purion !! device from Star Trek from 80's.... this is f#$^$% joke ! on mountain bikes in 2022-23 ..... this is 10y behind Specialized ....
I'm so annoyed about the decision not to include adjustable geometry. Even if you don't want to mullet the bike why would you not want the option to slacken or steepen it for your specific trails? I can almost guarantee there will be a mullet option in the future. This is a great way to have a change to market for the next model year. I was really into this bike but I'll have to pass until there's a mullet link available.
Thanks for sharing Nick, and interesting to hear you are that into running a mullet it would take you out of contention for this bike. We're also big fans of mullet ebikes for a few reasons, but in our time aboard this bike were quite impressed. Only long term will tell. What aspects of your riding/trail make a Mullet so necessary? Thanks
You really like mullets that much? I'd prefer the option of given the choice, but wouldn't be a deal breaker. I kinda think they're just a trend and won't stick around much longer.
@@TheLoamWolf they're just so much more fun to ride. I like to be able to push the rear end around, which I can't do easily with a 29er. And I do get the occasional crotch buzz on big landings and steep rough trails.
@@topspot4834 absolutely. I've been mulleting my dh and Enduro bikes for 5 or 6 years. I used to machine custom eyelets for coil shocks. But I haven't needed to do that for my last three bikes. I don't want to go back to having to do that. Mullets certainly aren't for everyone. But I think thre will always be a segment of riders that want lots of front wheel traction and lots of rear wheel drift.
@@TheLoamWolf there's supposedly a bunch of mid 40 pounders coming out this year too. So the wild might not be as special in a few months as it is today.
I have a carbon wild and love it. I'm sure I would love the new one if you could change batteries or add a range extender. I'll keep my old one with 2x 625wh. I'm 85kg and deristricted, so I need more battery capacity, shame. As a mechanic, I can see the World Series mechanics hating this design. Changing batteries out will be a pain in the butt.
I have a question for Orbea. Why would orbea abandon a customer who dropped 6,000 on their product, supply something damaged that only works for half the bikes 700 mile life while peces keep breaking and falling off? It was purchased as your product ncluding warranty was said to be on par with spesh. There is now an ornament in my house that is gathering dust. It should have 5,000 mles on it now.
@yetti423 I chipped my seat stay in a crash and Orbea is replacing at reduced cost (they don't have to). Maybe your LBS didn't do their part in helping with your issue?
The new Wild was presented in November. Availability till today: None The new Rise was presented in December. Availability till today: More then the wild. You also see much more content about the rise, then the wild. More testes etc. Why?
Here in Spain there is already some delays for delivering the firs units. Some shops made the order april 2022 and they were supossed to arrive during this february but there are already delayed until may.... hopping to get mine at least before summer....let's see...there's nothing to do but wait or look for something else
Unno has the biggest availability so far for the Mith. I live in Greece and my Lbs have already sold 4 units and they wait for more to come on February and March.
