I live in the EU and we seem to get so many more cars compared to the US, and if they are not available from the dealer we can always get them trough 'gray' imports (like the US trucks that aren't sold by the dealers). I really don't understand it.
The Prelude design is a home run. It’s absolutely sexy. The Powertrain is promising too, but the important factor is price and availability. Toyota, Nissan, Subaru, and even BMW can’t seem to sell enough sports cars. I have high hopes for the Prelude though.👍
Lets be a big btxh and cry about what people like lol god forbid we get an affordable 2 door ya know what people have been wanting for years yall just cry @aurorajones8481
It really doesn’t. Similar front doesn’t make the whole car look like a Prius. It’s a sporty looking coupe. A 2 door Prius would still have that dorky cheese wedge shape
@@bearclaw5115It’ll be awesome is the Prelude could be the spiritual successor to the affordable CR-Z. Then I think it would be really popular. The problem with sports cars is their slightly expensive price. The Supra and Z are too expensive.
I would like to see 276hp combined power from engine and electric motors , under 3,300lbs, priced under $50k before insane markups, offer a 6 speed manual as an option, and make some damn steering feel and I will buy one
If the First gen insight, civic hybrid (briefly), and CR-Z had manuals as hybrids…. …The new Prelude can have it too. If it doesn’t have a manual, then Honda is making a mistake.
Those all used the IMA hybrid system, which was much simpler and less efficient and only helped the car get off the line. The current Honda e:HEV hybrid is a two clutch system. Not sure how they'd integrate a manual into that when it allows the 2nd drive motor to drive the front wheels alone. I think this may be where development of the electronic manual shifter comes in.
Well Prelude and Civic don't really compete. But could explain why they killed the Accord Coupe. 😡 But ig Accord coupes did kill Preludes back in the day. 😂
@justdashie1132 Yeah but how there's like 30 near me. Everyone made was sold and at a higher price than the 4 doors. So I don't get how the lost money. Especially with the 2 Door 8th and 9th Gen Accords 🤝 everyone of them sold off a lot in less than 6-7 months.
@@TheBasher-_- Switching the factory line from their Sedans causes pauses in production taking away from their better-selling sedans. I prefer coupes either way. Honda couldn't make enough civics to satisfy dealer needs a few months ago.
I've got my Thin Mints and my Coke Zero and I'm buckled in !!! Let's go !!! At 12:19 - Who here would like to see Honda make a "retro" Prelude with a modern hybrid drivetrain, offered with both automatic or manual transmission, an analog gauge cluster, and with simple, easy to use manual switches and knobs? What I don't get is why in 2024 is a simple analog car considered a big ask?
This Prelude will be a low volume technology demonstrator for the next gen hybrid system which will eventually be incorporated into Honda's current V6 models. It will be sold at a premium due to low volume and I wouldn't be surprised if it's shelved after a few years. Honda will use lessons learned from issues consumers have with this powertrain to incorporate into the next gen Pilot, Ridgeline, Odyssey, and Passport, which will be built in much larger volumes.
Imo, for this car Honda should completely skip the 1.5t and hybridize the 2.0t. The 1.5 has a bad reputation among many. Regardless of any recent updates to it.
Will it be a Prelude in name only? Every car company regurgitates names but the resulting cars have little to do with the originals. For instance, the Ford Mustang Mach-E. The glass is half empty, not half full.
@davidhunternyc1 Ford still builds and sells the Mustang. The Mach E is a totally different vehicle that is meant to cater to a different demographic. This new Prelude looks like it should still have the same coupe formula but with a more modern power train.
@curtfox91 At 20 years old, it was my first car, and I drove mine pretty hard often, too. That AWS was awesome. I sold it to a buddy of mine for $ 5000 CAD, and I regret doing it ever since.
Prelude never got Type R treatment... how the hell is Honda marketing this as supposed performance flagship (I think that's their marketing intention...)? They are repeating the same mistake they made with CR-Z. Only proves that Honda doesn't know what they want, nor what customers want. As much as CR-Z was an interesting car, it was utter failure for good reasons. I think every company is forgetting what "sports" car is in the middle of SUVification era, and Honda is definitely a forerunner in that.
Where are you getting 10 mpg from? If it weren't a hybrid, it would likely be in the realm of the GTI or Civic Si. Those cars get around 30 mpg in mixed driving. Christ, even a 20 year old V8 powered Corvette gets 20 mpg in mixed driving.
I’m ok with hybrid done right. If done correctly it is better than all the cookie cutter EV’s. The significant increase in price is what is going to suck. This car is already going to be marked up outta my reach any though. 💩 🤷♂️
If this is marketed just right it will sell like hotcakes .. We need cheaper coupes, coupes are dying and its sad because not everyone wants an SUV and not everyone wants a Sedan .. We literally only have 3 coupes under $50,000 and thats sad
Honda made the 7th gen civic hybrid with a manual. I had a 2005 and it was a blast to drive with that little bit of extra torque. Plus the 50-60 mpg was always nice.
Agreeded. If honda is using all the same stuff as the accord, then it's not a prelude for the future. Honda needs to step up their game for the new sports cars. Sure, they have the civic type R, but it's a 4 sedan. Bring back the coupe and the three door hatch sports cars.
Honda had the 90s: CRX, Civic Si,R, Del Sol Si, Prelude Si, S2000, Accord Coupe V6 MT, Acura Legend Coupe, and NSX... that's 9 exciting models that were built for enthusiasts and beloved by enthusiasts. Honda 2024: Civic Type R and its sister the Integra both the same car and we still had both in the 90s you could round up to 10 cars if you count the integra as a separate model. Thats 9 cars down to 1 left. Pathetic.
I have the Prius Prime. It shares most things with the Corolla Platform, like the M20 engine and suspension. 100hp over the last Gen, same MPG, and full independent suspension, but performance wise the Prius has famously uncrackable ECUs. Honda Hybrids on the other hand have been cracked and tuned. This thing has the potential.
I wish Honda would built big engines like V8s & V10s fuse there hybrid technology into 1, that why we could have high performance cars and full efficient at the same time
Last week i took my old Honda to my local dealer (change oil,safety check, & all that good stuff) Pacific Honda Beretania St, Honolulu Talked to the service advisor a little about the S2000, so i asked him about the Prelude, He said it's a 2025 model, & because it's a hybrid, it will be sent to N America (& hopefully that will include Hawaii) let us pray
My money is on them giving it an electric turbo like the new 911…they had previously stated that they would be the first to bring that tech to mass production… looks like Porsche beat them to it but that’s my guess
My first Honda was a Prelude, then 2 Legend Coupes, then 2 CL-S 6 speeds. I've slowly had to give up coupes, manuals, 6-speeds and Acura. The new Integra doesn't work for me, don't want turbo. I hope Honda brings it with the new Prelude tho I will probably not go back to small coupes now. Also, I enjoy your reactions but I find less enjoyment of your Honda reactions, vs the mighty Toyota and your Camry crush. But I guess I'd agree; for me, Honda will never match the fun of the Acura coupes at those ICE price points but they had the best shifters I ever drove.
Honda US seems very off lately with lack of availability and dealers not caring much competing with Toyota anymore. The timeline for these is 2026, by that time we will have Celica and MR2.
When can we expect Honda to announce the official power numbers for this new Prelude? Honda said this new Prelude will be a joy to drive, so this cant be only 204 hp. I'm guessing it will be between 225 - 250 hp.
I wish they would make a fun hybrid with like 50 miles on pure EV mode and remaining on gas with regen that way the electric motors can give you instant torque to make it fun enough to get a sporty feel while being able to switch over to hybrid mode later on
Presenting a Honda Prelude Concept with Brembo brakes make me think that it's gonna be +280hp but this is confusing because they want to keep the 2.0L NA...
Im thinking curb weight will be around 3,000-3,300 lbs, 2.0T with a hybrid and FWD. All that should put it in the ranks with the Elantra N and Mustang Ecoboost(speed wise). Around 225hp would make sense (250+ would be fun.). 0-60 in around 5 secs. Probably will drive like an Audi TT
To make things interesting and to hearken back to the the Mk3 Prelude, I would love to see a four-wheel steering system re-introduced. It was a super popular option on the 1988 model. And getting it to work seamlessly with the rear e-AWD? Piece of cake.
I’ve always had a soft spot for Preludes as I had a first generation, which unfortunately rotted away to oblivion. I’m not warming to this one, perhaps because preludes were notchback coupes and this one with its lift back design, looks very Toyota Prius-ish. Maybe when I see it in person I might like it more.
The only thing that concerns me is interior packaging, which granted Honda usually is pretty good about. Since I am fairly confident it's not going to be a hatchback, it's going to need to show me it has a wide-aperture trunk and an easy-access back seat. If so: sale. I don't need peak performance. I just need something that's going to facilitate me sitting in traffic without wanting to off myself.
I thought the nice looking Prius(es) were tuned to be "pretty fun" - electric motors have that torque so people should be able to sprint to the next red light just fine.
I think Honda benchmarked 02-06 Honda Accord V6 Coupe. (Prelude Spiritual Successor) That car had a single overhead cam 3.0L V6 with VTEC connected to a 6MT that was reminiscent of the NSX. Very similar proportions and styling, vehicle weight, expected powertrain figures. I’d like to hope Honda can create a lively hybrid powertrain that can comply with 20 years worth of emissions and fuel economy regulations. I’m fine with the car losing top end torque. There’s no need to have 90 mph feel like a comfortable cruising speed.
I loved my 98 Prelude. I also loved my 13 G37x with AWD & 325 hp. Now I love my Mustang Ecoboost, & I doubt the new Prelude hybrid will have more than 220 hp. Give it NSX power & a decent price, & it would be considerable.
I hope Honda keeps making series hybrids rather than going the Toyota route. I have a new hybrid Accord and love the powertrain. The only thing I would prefer is for the engine driven gear ratio to biased 5 mph higher than it is now.
From someone who drives an Acura Hybrid RLX I can tell you all 377 horses are fun to drive. Nothing quite like it zero to 60 under 5 secs with 340 lbs of torque and still get 30 MPG. Yeah its fun and can scar the ....right out of ya if your not careful.
Mercedes-Benz W206 C300's 48V ISG mild hybrid is really good: 1. hope you get to test drive one on/off screen. 2. Honda can instead do mild hybrid because: A. they will be the only Japanese mild hybrid provider in the U.S. B. They do it like AMG does in F1.
I'm really looking forward to this release. My hopes are high for Honda to get it right. The previous 1.5 litre turbo engine was a huge letdown over on the civic, despite early enthusiasm. I think the hybrid will be great if the old CR-Z was a sort of "rough draft" of such an implementation (used to drive it quite a bit and enjoyed it).
Prelude was always a funnel of tech from the NSX that way it could go to the masses. Examples Vtec was developed on the NSX but Vtec was put in the Prelude first so the average person could have. The first car with SH that helped develop Diff technology. Hybrid can be fun if done right
14:00 Honda's series hybrid system definitely makes for worse fuel economy, but I don't think it's the reason for the responsiveness issue. Toyota's hybrids have the same issue, and it's that the engine just keeps shutting off and the battery will only give you about 40hp instantaneously. You can keep the engine running in a Prius by putting it in B mode, and it makes the throttle response noticeably better.
Great job on this video, I think you spotted a few very important aspects about this car's development and role in Honda's line up. A showcase for Honda's new technology. Awesome.
There was the crv hybrid build challenge not to long ago, where they basically pushed the limits of hybrid engines, its definitely for racing but that means there capable of doing it
The new Civic hybrid sounds pretty fun (...for a run-of-the-mill hybrid). Could this be a precursor to the next gen Civic Si (hybrid)? I'm happy to see the industry evolving into fun efficiency!
A 7 second zero to sixty is in line with the standard Civic isn't it? The hybrid power train must really handicap it's torque and horsepower given numbers are more inline with the Civic SI rather than the standard Civic platform.
Do you recommend a 2023 Rc 350 or this car. I really like the RC exterior, but hate the mpg. I would love to see the replacement for the Rc and Lc, but I feel it will likely be out of my price range if it’s over 55k when it comes out. also thoughts on the Rc 350 v4 turbo vs v6 for longevity, past 10 years. Thanks.
Sans the 11g Accord, the new Civic Hybrid seems very promising in terms of fun, too. More power and torque than the old L15CA, and a great chassis to begin with. Honda knows how to make their cars fun to drive in general, I reckon. I wouldn't be afraid of the Prelude not being fun. The 11g Accord Hybrid I heard handles well in the corners, it's just the lack of power that made it more of a miss than a hit.
