The Nintendo Cinematic Universe is a BAD IDEA 

I feel like a shared multiverse would work better, that way they can crossover, without having to share a universe

What people is calling "Super Hero Fatigue" is really more likely "Cinematic Universe Fatigue". A traditional Film Series you'll at best get one every 2-3 years perfectly manageable. A Cinematic Universe getting like 3-4 Films a Year plus all the TV Shows because it is all important to the Big Crossover End Goal and any competitors trying to do the same with their own. Cinematic Universes are a huge time commitment. Still can do Movies on all Popular Video Games Series Nintendo or otherwise, but let them be their own continuity.

I just want a MARIO cinematic universe as in movies that take place within the MARIO universe.

That's not even mentioning that several franchises have their own multiverses. Zelda is infamous for it, but Marth and Lucina are thousands of years apart on top of Roy, Ike, Corrin and Byleth each residing in completely different worlds.

I agree, it's a very bad idea. Each game has its own genre and atmosphere.

Letting Hollywood bosses and investors get their grubby hands on all of Nintendo's IPs is one of the worst ideas ever.

I agree. That would be way too much to try to pull off. I'd more so see this as a shared universe of Mario related properties as opposed to Nintendo properties as a whole. I could see adaptations of Luigi's Mansion, Donkey Kong Country, Super Princess Peach, and Yoshi's Island, but Super Smash Bros.? Hell naw.

I don't necessarily want a shared universe, but I'd still love for a Smash Bros movie to happen. Have it work like a TV Special crossover like the Jimmy Timmy Power Hour. Have them team up for the movie, and then all return home at the end never to speak of it again until the next Smash movie. Either that, or just have the Smash movie be a completely separate entity. Maybe Master Hand just creates the entire Smash world, characters included and it all takes place there. Maybe they could even set it up by having Master Hand viewing the worlds of the various movies as he's crafting it.

they are better off as their own films instead of being a shared universe even smash bros is it’s own universe, it’s just a bunch of toys/trophies coming to live, the characters aren’t even canonical size

Also the MCU is made up of movies that are entirely PG13, it would be weird if Metroid for example was made into a PG movie, like Mario was. I'm also kind of tired of everything needing to be a cinematic universe. DC tried it and it went terribly wrong, and Scoob tried it and I doubt the Hanna-Barbera Cinematic universe will be all that good. Mario and Metroid and Zelda, all have vastly different stories and those stories don't seem to mesh well together.

Is it fair to say I don’t want more than the Mario Movie? Cuz they’d homogenize the shit outta those movies. I don’t want a homogenized semi-adaptation of like six Zelda games.

I laughed a bit when you mentioned Kirby possibly fitting in illumination, despite the fact that Kirby has more messed up things than most Nintendo franchises, as well as having complex lore that illumination would completely butcher.

I don't want a super Smash bros crossover movies 😖

Worth noting that Nintendo now has their own film studio called Nintendo Pictures after they purchased Dynamo Pictures a couple years ago (the guys who made the Pikmin shorts). I assume Nintendo did this to consolidate a studio for game cutscenes, but it would be really cool if Nintendo managed to develop feature films in-house. They have the money and talent for the animation. As for the script, get some writers from Intelligent Systems, HAL & Sakura, or even the Splatoon guys, Hisashi Nogami and Shintaro Sato. They all know how to write really well done PG stories.

Nintendo bought their own movie studio so that there won't be other studios in the future that make the movies

I feel like stand-alone movies with little to no crossing with other Nintendo movies, but if Nintendo ever felt up to it they could either A. have the characters but in a different version(dolls, toys, etc.) do the cross-over, could work very well for smash type thing. Or B. Keep the crossing over with other series to a VERY self-contained, going back to Smash it could be Sephiroth and Galeem working together to get the strongest Nintendo fighters to revive some true God or some, I don't know just spitballing ideas here, overall just don't make them CONNECTED, make them CROSS-OVER

Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if a smash movie would end up being extremely watered down due to the sheer amount of characters, even with just the original 12, thats 12 potentially main or side characters trying to be blended in with 90-120 full minutes to spare.

No… just… no… I don’t want a film adaptation of World of Light. Not only is it a sparse last-minute Avengers: Infinity War/Endgame knockoff, but who even wants to watch it? The opening alone initially had me scarred for life, but sometime immediately after that, it makes no sense at all, not to be taken seriously, and it shouldn’t matter. It’s just a drag that went on for too long. Having a build-up for story and characterization is not a way to go. No seriously, who wants to watch an Inkling girl crying and wailing thinking all hope for a doomed universe is lost? Who wants to watch Princess Zelda expressing doubts about the chances of defeating Galeem and Dharkon after failing to stop Galeem during the fighters’ first encounter? Who wants to watch Mario giving a Braveheart/Return of the King pre-battle speech? ………………… Didn’t think so! I don’t even know why people want this and I frankly don’t even want to envision it! I can envision anything Smash-related in any shape or form, but nothing overarching and disturbing as this!

I hope we get a Smash Universe where they all get their universes thrown together by ROB for the subspace emissary but everyone is from their own place obviously but return to their own after with maybe a hat as a souvenir for the background

I feel like you’re assuming it has to adhere to a exact copy of how marvel has created it’s universe. But no, it doesn’t at all. I don’t see any reason why every movie could stand completely on his it’s own, or even headed by a different studio. A “Smash Bros” style crossover movie doesn’t have to logically come up with reasons why every character comes together, they didn’t feel the need to do that in the games, and judging by the Mario movie, Nintendo doesn’t really care to follow a ton of logic either lol. Every movie doesn’t have to convolutedly tie into each other like Marvel does, I could absolutely see a fun crossover movie working, as long as you’re willing to suspend your disbelief a bit.

I'm still surprised there aren't anime adaptations of Xenoblade or newer Fire Emblem games like Awakening or Three Houses. Or even a lot of official merchandise, for that matter.

I think foundation is very important here because while Marvel builded up and designed as an interconnective universe, Nintendo's games were made to be self contain. Not even the individual games from the same series are connected. The Zelda timeline was forced in and few games have a bigger story, like F-zero and Splatoon. Fire Emblem is vast but each game is so far apart time wise that it doesn't really matter that much. This style of canon is just as good as an idea as a cinematic universe because the ultimate strength of separate canons is that you don't have to follow the story and experiment on new lore and mechanics, not worrying about past entrances. I think the Super Mario Movie benefits from that it didn't seem odd because it wasn't canon to the games so it could better express itself as a movie.

I think you misunderstand the shared rights between Marvel, Sony, and Universal. This is not similar to Nintendo. When Marvel nearly went bankrupt in the 90s, Marvel sold the X-men and the Fantastic Four to Fox, all versions of Spiderman and his villains to Sony, and Hulk and some others to Universal. This is what causes legal problems for Marvel when they want to adapt these characters in Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). Nintendo does not have these problems, for they have retained all the rights to their characters as far as I am aware. Nintendo can license different studios to make their Cinematic Universe while retaining the rights to their characters. Like how Sony has a deal with Marvel to allow Spiderman to appear MCU while retaining the rights to Spiderman. Furthermore, Nintendo just bought itself a movie company (Dynamo Pictures, which has now been renamed to Nintendo Pictures). This could mean that future Nintendo movies will be made directly by Nintendo themselves. They probably had the Super Mario movie made by Illumination to free themselves of the risk that comes with making movies, especially video game movies that have traditionally not done well. Now that the Super Mario movie is on track to make over a billion dollars, there appears to no longer be a risk. This means that your fear of shared rights is not a concern.

Less than 1k?! This was a really good vid! Very underrated

I wouldn't necessarily want a shared universe or movies for something like Xenoblade, but I think it could work great as an anime series. I'm surprised Nintendo doesn't do more anime series for the games that already have that kind of style.

I think that each of these own universes are big enough on their own in the first place. I can think of like at least a dozen original movies that could come out of just a Super Mario Bros. cinematic universe, with stuff from only the Super Mario series. There is so much material, from the spin offs, to the Super Mario Bros games, to the RPGS, and so on and so on...

The music in the game needs to give koji kondo more control for longer scores rather than Easter egg music it would give it such a more Mario feel same thing when Zelda comes out transition music of the ocarinas, the music in general.

Super Mario movie made more money than any Disney film. I think it’s kinda cool that I get to see not just Super Mario but also other Nintendo characters getting a movie. But not in a way they will all soon meet each other and have an infinity war against master hand lol 💀

Don't worry it's not going to happen because Nintendo and Sony are making a live action Zelda Movie I think that proves that they don't want to make a NCU.

Given how we only have Pokemon and Mario movies, cant see an NCU happening……unless they made Mario and Sonic at the Olympics the movie 💀

your videos are great, keep it up

Although i don't need it but if we get a cinematic universe (and if its done well) i'd love to see it

True, Super Mario Bros and Detective Pikachu were made by different studios, but I heard a rumor saying that Universal was in talks about buying Warner Brothers. You never know.

Mario has an incredibly unique world that doesnt really compete with any type of movie that is made. Almost all of the other nintendo IPs that are popular enough to get their own movie would have a "Warcraft" problem, where they are competing in a massive arena with similar movies with similar worlds. LoZ is competing with fantasy adventure titles, which is oversaturated. Metroid competes with action sci fi. Fire Emblem would compete with medieval political dramas like Game of Thrones. Even if they would be good movies in these genres I doubt Nintendo's extremely conservative leadership is going to risk their IPs on projects that arent 100% surefire investments.

I actually think it would be a great idea. Donkey Kong Country, Luigi’s Mansion, and Sunshine should definitely be the next movies they do. Or if they want to use the entire IP then maybe Zelda and Starfox? Idk, there’s a lot of potential. I had a blast watching Super Mario and I think a cinematic universe could work really well.

Funny how you said Kirby at 5:40, cause that could actually be a really hard adaption to pull off without getting the fans really mad.

I can give some folks who want an Nintendo CU two solid reasons why it isn’t a good idea, because it’s more than just “not knowing how to make it work.” 1. Many of Nintendo’s big hitters have enough material to stand as their own cinematic universes. Mario, Zelda, Fire Emblem, and even Star Fox can stand on their own without needing to cross over. Mario has plenty of stories and side franchises like Luigi’s Mansion, Donkey Kong Country, Wario Land, and the Mario RPG games. Zelda and Fire Emblem have massive timelines taking place across multiple eras and different heroes and villains and lore that reside in those eras. 2. Many franchises have tried and failed to do cinematic universes. Universal Monsters? Failed with its first film The Mummy. Spider-Man? Failed the first time and is still desperately trying. Valiant comics (yes there was an attempt to do that)? Failed with their first film Bloodshot. DC? I think you know the answer. Godzilla/Monsterverse is really the only one that’s somewhat successful but there’s hardly any real consistent push from it that not many will really talk about it to the extent of Marvel. How about instead of a massive cinematic universe leading to Smash bros crossover. How about an alternative? Maybe a Smash Bros animated short? It can last 5-10 minutes and have the characters duking it out before master hand shows up and they all team up to fight him. The short can even end with the reveal of a kid playing with toys the entire time.

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I think a Luigi's Mansion movie would be good, and a Star Fox movie could be interesting movie idea. Donkey Kong movie Is an idea, though it probably wouldn't earn AS MUCH in the box office compared to the Mario movie. I would love a Legend of Zelda movie, and Kirby doesn't speak (at least that I know of) so a Kirby movie is perhaps out of question.

i'm not so sure if i want an EarthBound movie made by Illumination ngl

Well, Nintendo did planned for next movie. There is no Zelda or Metroid 2/3 of Nintendo flag ship reference in Mario movie. Possibly they might go with 3 ncu

Just watched the video and good points were made but I disagree. First off, I don't think anybody thinks if it happens they should be in the same world cause people instead believe it should be a multiverse, like you mentioned. But while it was mentioned Marvel is struggling with their multiverse storytelling, I disagree as probably the best film and tv show this far from Phase 4 of marvel are No Way Home and Loki, two multiverse based projects whereas more grounded projects like Falcon and Winter Soldier and Eternals have seen less success. You can mention Doctor Strange 2 or Antman 3, but Doctor Strange had very misleading marketing for the scope of multiverse exploration and Antman wasn't even a multiverse movie until a post credit scene. Considering No Way Home was the film to break the $1 billion mark in the covid era and people criticized the film for story while saying it was still a ton of fun, all we need for these crossovers is fun. These are rated-PG movies for the most part where people just want to have fun watching them like they did with Suoer Mario Bros Movie, so I do think it would work as a multiverse, especially since they even teased it with Peach saying she doesn't know where her actual home is. For the other point of Illuminatiin shouldn't run every project, I 100% agree which is why you have Dreamworks working next door to you that can do the more mature projects like Zelda and like Metroid. So I see the points being made, but don't think they are valid excuses to say a Smash Bros Connected Universe is a bad idea

I personally don't want an NCU, just... more movies Really only mario movies (other universes are fine, but like, I totally would love to see more Mario style action with different plots (not "plots" like the actual story being interesting, but plots as in new surroundings, new characters, etc. that bring out more of the mario world)

other studios did a cinematic universe thing and the only one who succeeded was early phases marvel I can see this is a bad idea

I’m a Metroid fan and I have always wanted to see Metroid on the big screen but I don’t want to see be turned into a kids cartoon because it’s not kids don’t know what Metroid is and letting a company like Illumination make a Metroid movie would be horrible I want a live action Metroid movie with real people and dark tones to it what do I have to do make my own Metroid movie just to get it because at this point I would be honored to make a Metroid movie fan made or not.

I want an NCU

Infinity Wars and End Game is really the amazing movies we got from the MCU other then that they were just sequels and at a point it took way to long to get to end game and super hero movies were getting boring. Ncu could have the same faults boring to get there.

If they can do Earthbound, than sans can come in super smash too.🤔

Well, I prefer to keep a open mind. And Chris Pratt already declared that it's happening, so let's see what we do with it first before we jump the gun.

It'd be a nintnedo cinematic multiverse, that is how I would do it, All the universes would be connected by a smash bros universe

Only acceptable if yoshi, Luigi, donkey kong and another character that originally began in a mario game.

You make great points.

5:32 Nintendo would 100% own all the movies made so being made by different studios would be irrelevant

I wouldn't be *against* a Nintendoverse/Smash Bros movie, but I don't need it. I just want these properties to have good translations period.

I had a terrible dream. You were a liar. Oh wait, that actually happened.

There already a Nintendo cinematic universe, is called Super Smash bros.

Nintendo studios was already bought and formed( ing) acc

It would be a good idea.

The initial premise of this video is just wrong.. A "NCU" doesn't really mean that they'll have to "Smash" them franchises together. They can just make separate stories for each. And whether you like it or not, even if it is a good idea or not (which it isn't, seeing how this Mario and Peach already don't fit expectations, and paying SO MUCH money to "A-listers" to reprise their unnecessary roles).. Illumination is probably going to move forward with it, seeing as how Nintendo has also invested in the Universal Theme Parks.

I'll stay out of this debate.

I swear if they make a star fox movie and Tom cruise isn’t fox then the whole movies a waste(jk it would prob still be good)

Nintendo would do it right they are very patient people

I will never forgive y’all if you manifest a nintendo cinematic universe into existence and ruin a whole bunch of nintendo series’s

Knowing nintendo they probably would not do this.

I'm glad someone else understands

Most would look at this guy and scream party pooper and I’ll admit I did too. But actually listen to his points they aren’t that far fetched

didn't Nintendo buy a movie studio or was that just a theory, a game theory

Yeah, not a great video First of all just because marvel is supposedly struggling with its multiverse stuff doesent mean Nintendo can't get it write. The multiverse isn't even that difficult of a concept to get wrong Also, your forgetting that universal DOES have another animation studio under its belt, DreamWorks. I'm sure they can handle some of the films and there wouldn't be to mutch legal trouble

what about a super mario bro tv series instead

Actually i would rather have a Cinematic Universe of Nintendo characters anyday over what Warner Bros tried to do with the Hanna-Barbera ips in Scoob.

I like mario buti didn't care forthe movie. ..didnt go to watch it....meh When they make a Zelda one then id care enough.... probably- modt likely will

Funny thing about the politics discussion with the Mario movie _I_ see is that conservatives mostly give it a tepid thumbs up and call it a step in the right direction because while Mario gets humiliated a couple of times, he's clearly the hero. I mean it'd have been way cooler and more daring if Peach _was_ an unironic damsel in distress who needed to be rescued by a couple of men, but her being a badass action girl is fine since she wasn't like smug or self-aggrandizing, but just genuine and still feminine at her core.

My problem with Illumination is the way they animate humans. It is just ugly. They did great job in the Mario movie but I can’t see them animating in movies like F-zero or Zelda

Nintendo CU is not bad idea, this is Good reason.

Im so tired of a need for a cinematic universe why cant we just chill out a bit and enjoy a movie. Whats so difficult about that?

You guys lack creativity. They don’t have to have a shared universe to be a smash film.. obviously each Nintendo character has its own tone in terms of story telling, but it’s not really a valid reason for why it wouldn’t work. avengers and other films are great examples on how it could happen. Just because marvel sucks at introducing multiverse (other then no way home in my opinion) but that don’t mean EVERY studio would. Each character’s story had a different tone before eventually coming together to fight Loki. master hand could literally just make the smash world and the original smash line up, make some plot about the master hand wanting to test them in a tournament, Mario and the gang participate, see the bigger picture then join together to take down master hand. They go back to their own worlds, crazy hand would be the set up for the sequel, the end🙂

Pokemon is the only one that should continue to get movies imo

3:24 Nintendo is already trans media between games merch anime and theme park tho

Idk about a Smash bros movie, but NCU doesn't sound like a bad idea

Nintendo actually bought a movie studio so the studio problem is fixed so it can happen the reason the went to illumination was to figure how to animate movies

You and the other commenters forgot that Nintendo has their own movie studio Nintendo Pictures. If Nintendo Pictures would make all of the movies Nintendo wouldn't need to deal with negotiations.

Honestly while I do kind of love the idea for a connected Smash universe, I just don’t see some franchises like Animal Crossing and Metroid really gelling in a movie format

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Oh god I hope they don’t a Nintendo cinematic universe because I really don’t like it I bet they are going to put a lot of American jokes which it’s lame and stupid 😒 now if they made it like anime then that’s really ok but not those American jokes but dear god I hope they don’t do a Nintendo cinematic universe

the fact you think Illumination had any huge part in the script....shows you dont know what's going on. Nintendo CEO scrapped the script and made their own. So illumination is really only there to bring out the bright colors and animation....Nintendo CEO will take good care of the script. So bring on more!

People reading this: please ignore the video maker. He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about about and an NCU would be totally rad regardless of how well integrated or interconnected it is.

we don't care bro

It can't be a bad idea if they try

I don’t care if this is a bad idea this needs to happen and set up a sub space emissary movie

Honestly, this is just like when people are asking for Mario Kart to turn into Nintendo Kart. No! We want the full extent of the Mario universe! Not for other franchises to invade and ruin the chances of that!

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i still love nintendo cinematic universe because is a good idea to make a better future in 2024 or 2025 and also i'm a big fan of nintendo it makes me feel happy ❤

well too bad!! im not waching films ever again! cuz superheros were the once that made me love hollywood in the 2000s/2010s so once superheros comics fades out! congratulations movies hollywood cartoons are dead! even if garbage video games become a thing.