Ganymede: The Origin of the Zodiac Sign of Aquarius - Greek Mythology - See U in History Art: Clayton Inloco Color: Rod Fernandes #GreekMythology #Mythology #SeeUinHistory #History #MythologyExplained
There’s something irrationally funny about Zeus’s only male lover being the only one that didn’t have a horrible fate, all because Hera said “no mistresses!”
Fun fact: According to Homer and Socrates (Xenophon's Symposium) Ganymede, despite his young age, was a very smart and wise person (which is also what his name means). Because of that Zeus would ask for his opinion every time he was troubled about making an important decision. He would also spend hours talking with him about various subjects. But just like every greek myth (or most of them), the Roman versions tend to be more widespread, which is why Ganymede is believed to be a lover of Zeus, just like Hyacynthus became a lover of Apollo in Ovid's versions of the myths (despite the fact that the greek version doesn't even hint that).
I see nothing saying that it was only in roman version 🤨 what is your source? Platon mentionne that fable where Zeus and Ganymede are lovers in his book of laws in 636 B-C and say that the Cretans invented it to justify "tasting themselves that pleasure at the image of the god".
@Éfar Isti it seems that you got things a little mixed up, I assume that you're referring to Plato's laws 636d (...κατηγοροῦμεν ὡς λογοποιησάντων τούτων· ἐπειδὴ παρὰ Διὸς αὐτοῖς οἱ νόμοι πεπιστευμένοι ἦσαν γεγονέναι, τοῦτον τὸν μῦθον προστεθηκέναι κατὰ τοῦ Διός, ἵνα ἑπόμενοι δὴ τῷ θεῷ καρπῶνται καὶ ταύτην τὴν ἡδονήν...). Plato doesn't state that Zeus and Ganymede were lovers, on the contrary he explains that only some of the Cretans misinterpreted the myth in order to practice homoerotic activities (the reason being that if the Gods accepted this kind of behavior, men shouldn't criticize it). Just right above that part (I believe it's 636 b-c) he explains how every Greek city-state viewed this kind of behavior as not natural, therefore condemning it. In other words, Plato doesn't state that it was a widespread version of the myth throughout Greece, he only states that those who wanted to engage in homoerotic activities in Crete, used that version of the myth in order to not be viewed negatively. The Romans on the other hand used a similar version of the myth to the one the Cretans did (and if I'm not mistaken it was Ovid who wrote love poems containing Zeus and Ganymede as lovers) Now about my source, if you read Xenophon's Symposium, there is a part where Socrates explains the meaning of the myth and refers to the Homeric poems as well.
@Stephanie Keatley I don't remember if the myth mentions Hera's jealousy actually, but I can't really think of any myth that she is not mad at Zeus or jealous. I suppose she was probably mad because be found a way around this time as well
So were a lot of Zeus's flings. It's pointless to apply our modern morality to ancient cultures. Although, in this case, it's not that far out of touch. Many U.S. states allow minors to be married to adults.
@@daniels7907 you are missing the point, even Plato back then frowned the practice of adults taking teenage catamites and brides, its just as people believen back then that the earth was flat despite the greeks, egyptians and even israelites back then being well aware that it was in fact, round, just because the practice was common back then it doesn't mean it was frowned upon back then and criminalized today
Honestly, I like to think of Zeus and Ganymede's relationship as sugar dating. You know, that deific sugar daddy (Zeus) and mortal turned immortal sugar baby (Ganymede) type of deals. Heck, it was the same with Poseidon and Nerites.
back in those centuries if a person was physically mature enough, then they were an adult. And by "mature enough" I mean able to reproduce. Nowadays it's based off of emotional and mental maturity rather
@@vextex9719 - But the rules were always different for gods. For example, Zeus's wife, Hera, was also his full-sister. Ancient mythology and religion in general were like that. Many people today prefer to forget that the Biblical patriarch Abraham and his wife Sarah were half-siblings, which was a common practice in ancient times when a father wanted to keep a dowry within his own family. But we certainly wouldn't allow it today.
No, Zeus was not married with different women at the same time. In most versions goddesses like Athenas mother Metis were before Hera. (But in the end there are different versions... I just do not know of any in which Zeus is married to multiple women at the same time - especially when Hera is so vengfull).
@@FreyaBelle1240 That might be because they aren't goddesses of wedding and family and thus Zeus escapades are not a direct attack to everything they embody.
Those born into the sign of Aquarius r free-spirited, rebellious, go with the flow, curious, passionate, and deeply social. Ganymede was also Zeus‘s first and probably his only gay relation.
Some of these stories try to make sense of tragedy in ancient times, by getting the Gods involved in the tragic deaths or abductions eases the grief and keeps their memory alive.
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Throughout the video Ganymede was properly clothed, but when Zeus place him in the stars, he's barechested...... Why & where di Zeus saw him like that?😅
I have a request do next the ♏ and the zodiac sign please cause I'm a big fan of it and I love mythology and my teacher said I almost recognized all of the gods and goddesses
Was there anyone Hera wasn't jealous of? Geez. Great parenting there Zeus, your daughter has an accident and falls so you fire her from her job. Nice. 🙄Then you replace her with a mortal that you have a crush on.🤨
Me: Hera,Hera,Hera how many times must I tell you; instead of going after the illegitimate children and lovers of Zeus- just take lovers of your own. Hera: Fine ! You want me to take lovers of my own. I'll just take YOU as my lover. Me:I-I didn't volunteer. Hera: Are you saying no to me ? Me: No,No,No ! Hera:Great ! Let's go new lover. Hera grabbed my hand and dragged me to the bedroom and locked the door behind her. Me: Come help me Kratos !
Why did the illustrator put a fish in the hand of the man representing the constellation? From what we can see in the video, aquarius refers to the jug of drink, so why the fish?
@@toniyami He can't? At least I don't think he can physically pour drinks anymore, Zeus made him into beautiful stars to save him from Hera/death/other things.
For the Greeks (like most ancient societys) there was a clear difference betwen heterosexuall and homosexuall relationships. Zeus having something with Ganymede was probably not the same thing as Zeus going after other women.
so .. without the nectar they become mortals?? and the would age and die? as in they aren't immortal gods, but powerful long lived mortals? is that it?
Goddesses and gods can be killed if that's what you're asking. So no they aren't truly immortal. Very few gods or goddesses come close to being our idea of immortal. Nyx, Chaos, Helios, and a few others are probably the closet you'll get. Zeus CAN be killed(like his father), but he's too strong. I believe the truest immortal is the primordial source, which we'll never really actually "meet".
@@S.Uranus a "creature" that is not omnipotent, immortal, and undefeatable, is not worthy to be called a "god / goddess" being able to do lots of stuff, but still require all the human needs makes you a super human, nothing more and nothing less. a god, you aren't.
@@TrueInvisible But this is the definition of a god/godess in most religions in history around the world. Yahweh is a bit of an exception (and even he is not always depicted as all-powerfull). Deitys do not need to be perfect or all-powerfull. Only being called a deity and being a worshiped supernatural being is enough... I mean, there are much lesser deitys in different religions like gods and godesses who have only power over one mountain, one totem or one holy tree. Even beings like nymphs, elves, demons, fairys and giants are technically lesser gods and godesses.
So they are "Gods" but they are still full of flaws, because shouldn't be a god not stumble or atleast do something not to drop the drink? I imagine always something else when i hear about gods, but then i hear and read those stories, and they seem to be full of flaws
Ganymede not only became the new cupbearer to the Gods, but he himself also became the Greek God of Homosexuality. He's one of the few mortals in Greek mythology to be granted Godhood.
I'm sorry to inform you that there is no God of homosexuality in greek mythology. If you are interested in learning about what opinion the greek gods (and the greeks themselves) had on the matter though, I think the myth of Laios is the perfect example. But allow me to explain why Ganymede ascended to Olympus. Zeus indeed granted Godhood only to a few figures from Greek mythology (Such as Hercules, Castor and Polux, Ganymede), the reason behind that is due to the nobility of their soul. If you pay attention you will notice that all of them had the qualities that the Greeks believed made someone a good person, "Καλός Καγαθός" as they would call it later on. That's what we know from Homer. Socrates also states that: Zeus had a lot of lovers and every woman he liked, he would make her his. But after he had satisfied his lust, he would leave them back (meaning on earth). The reason behind it is that he only admired their bodies, not their souls. But whoever Zeus deemed worthy, because of their soul, he would grant them immortality. (Xenophon's Symposium VIII) That's the reason why only a few figures from the Greek mythology ascended to Olympus.
@MikeNoordhof There is literally no Greek source that indicates that, so I would like to ask what is your source? (And I never said he was not a cupbearer)
@DarkFeather It's literally the same person, I just used the Roman name because it's better known. Just like I did with Castor and Polux, whose greek names are Kastoras and Polydeuces.
