The OTHER Sith Master Hiding in the Acolyte 

I mean he also had another apprentice that Plagues didn’t know about; breaking the rule of two. I could see them building the story around that

The rule of two is BS. Theres almost always a Master and apprentice AND the apprentice secret apprentice.

"The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... Unnatural..." - Darth Sidious 19 BBY - 35 BBY

Tenebrous sounds pretty cool and it'd be awesome to see him, but I don't think that is where this is going at all. Some other kind of dark-side order. When asked by Sol what he is, Qimir says, "There is no name for what I am. A jedi like you might call me a sith." He's basically saying, I'm not a Sith, but that's the easiest way I can explain what I am.

If it is Tenebrous and Qimir is indeed a Sith apprentice, it could be that the new canon is having him be the apprentice before Plagueis, adding a bit extra to the lore by having him be something of a failed apprentice, one who goes against his control and teachings. Qimir does seem like he could be an impetuous and disgruntled apprentice, one who is rebelling against the Rule of 2's doctrine of hiding in plain sight. So he decides to strike out on his own, finding someone who has a deep loathing for the Jedi to become his apprentice (Mae) and like him, believes that the Jedi need to feel their power and their safety threatened and ultimately need to be taken down so that other force-wieders like the Sith no longer have to hide anymore.

Excuse me, sir. But the Sith have been extinct for a millennia...

Great video! Thought i personally believe Qimir is Darth Venamis. Who was Darth Tenebrous's second & secret apprentice while having Darth Plagueis as his "main" apprentice, violating the Rule of Two. Could be him? But idk, i got low expectations with how the show has been so far, but guess we'll have to wait and see. I just hope they dosen't throw away the tenebrous & plagueis story...

I think we are all ignoring the name of the series. It not sith lord or even apprentice, its acolyte, a term usually reserved for very low ranking people on the totem poll of power. My guess is we might run into more "sith" that in reality are the playthings of the true sith.

Excellent video as always. Really well done. I enjoy all of your videos, but this one was much needed considering what is going on right now in the acolyte. Thanks for all that you do!

Tennebrus sounds like he wasn't reslly a sith but just a outlaw scientist

Stupendous I appreciate you making theory videos and videos about the lore without complaining and talking about your issues with the show. I wish more RU-vidrs would just focus on the story and talk about the story the way you do in these specific videos, obviously it’s okay to not love the show but I miss videos like this from the community.

You can be a sith without a master. Just a random sith loving his life.

There are only two Sith. No more, no less.

a sith lord the ancient enemy of the Jedi

Why is nobody talking about the idea that Qimir could be a highly trained rogue Sith Assassin akin to Darth Maul, and that he’s neither of the Rule Of Two Sith during this era.

One of the best recaps and story telling video summarys relevant to now!!! I agree I want this sith reveal to be tennebrous and set up time to tell the story of plagius. I hope we get to unpack all of this through the Acolyte and beyond.

Your videos have been nothing but bangers lately

Darth Tenebrous's master was called Darth Ramage

There is no mafia . Sorry sith lol

Thank you for not outage farming Stupendous!!!

I love your videos bro😭

Darth Tenebreous exposes Kaiser Wilhelm II as a Sith Lord. I always felt uneasy with the Tirpitz race on Dac.

It will wind up being that zabrak woman from the first episode.

I needed a deep dive into some good Star wars. Thank you for keeping the faith!

“REMEMBER, The first and only reality of the Sith .. There can only be 2!” - Darth Sidious

Great Video!

I'm sure Darth Plagues is behind Qimir being so powerful and secretive. Great video.

Sith just keep Sithing. Every one of them get betrayed and they're ALWAYS SURPRISED 😮 😲 😯

The fundamental flaw in the premise of this video is thinking that Disney gives one actual single f**k what the pre-established lore has to say.

A fate worse than death itself

The Sith are NOT extinct! Whether it's movies, tv, comics or novels. The Sith nor the Jedi ever completely die out. And like the Jedi, there is far more than just two! The rule of two is the equivalent to Jedi Master and Padawan. A lot of them just keep to themselves.

Nice video! : )

To be fair he didn't say that he was a sith, he said that the jedi might call him that.

So, Smilo Ren's master is a bugface... this is getting interesting !!

Amazing video!!! Star Wars lore is so rich and full of mysterious intrigue… If only Disney could adapt the lore into movies 🍿 as well as you have explained it here….😢

Oooooo that would be an amazing thing to see on screen. A delectable version of ‘I have no mouth but I must scream’

Darkness uses all tools to gain absolute power indeed.

Believe Sol is the other sith

Earnest apologies ahead of time forvthe rambling wall of text. Seeing Tenebrous in this show was my first, and greatest, hope when I first heard about it. I have weird, personal reasons why, but Darth Tenebrous is somehow one of my favorite Legends characters, and the fact that he is a smart, analytical, science-minded being, even in a verse where "magic" is real, makes him even better. I am going to say something dumb, so fair warning. Maybe this "Sith" is purely a pretender? If you do enough digging, Palpatine knew about "the Sith" well before he ever met Darth Plagueis; he found oddly forgotten about lore on his own planet, and then basically just sat down, and waited for a teacher to come and find him, so maybe Darth Teeth also found some info that had slipped through the cracks? To many, "the Sith" is as much a religious creed, as anything else, and while the Jedi might believe that THE PRACTITIONERS are extinct, the words they lived by are simply suppressed, but could be found by another. The other organizations within the Force; someone had to, one day, come up with a new idea, lived it, and then codified it. THEY didn't have a "teacher", and someone else who found a treatise, and tried to live by it, might think they are also a member, even if self-taught. Still, the Sith is more than a mindset. They aren't just "evil Jedi", and have their own mysteries, and ways, that set them apart from other DS Cultists, but maybe this schmuck still has delusions of grandeur, and really BELIEVES he is, though that doesn't mean it's any more true than Luke just saying "then I am a Jedi." Palpatine could have practiced the Sith Creed, and that wouldn't have been a crime, apparently, so that lore must still be at least kind of available, and we DO know that it's there, because Palpatine found some himself; no Ro2 Sith had swept it up, to hide it, or roving Jedi Sentinel, to suppress it. If that were the case, maybe someone like Darth Tenebrous, or Darth Plagueis, would just hang back, out of sight, and collect Intel? See how big this was, as they had been unaware of the source, and where it came from? See if it's convincing enough that the Jedi bought it, or if the "true" Sith core was really still hidden, and when the time is right, make something happen to this upstart. The Jedi might just see this tossing around of a trigger word "Sith" as wishful thinking, on the part of those who seek to not live under the Jedi's limits, but the "real" Sith are still blessedly gone, if the Jedi even remember what those were, beyond words, after a thousand years of only reading accounts of them. That's just me, and I haven't watched this show, yet, so I am merely trying to use my own Star Wars nerd-power to talk out of my ass.😊 I'm not trying to defend it, as I've already mostly decided to skip it for other reasons, or wait till the whole season is watchable, and see if it redeems itself in the end. If you made it this far, thank you very much, but a question; why do the Jedi have a prophecy of the Chosen One, who will bring balance to the Force? In their minds, they won, a thousand years ago, and apart from individuals can make choices, they represent the majority of who can use the Force, so with the Sith gone, what did THEY expect a Chosen One to do, prior to the revelation that their ancient enemies had a modern iteration?

Damn this was great

I hope Tenobrous makes an appearance

This guy Qimir is a Knight of Ren.

The Acolyte writers have neither the balls nor the brain cells to come up with something for Darth Tenebrous.

He could be an unknown sith that is far removed from Darth plagues master. I highly think that there are more than just two sith at any given time.

If Darth Tenebrous is involved, that wouldn't be too bad. He also did not follow the rule of 2.

One season is not enough to be canon

I have a question, if Qimir is being revealed then what is it that Tenebrus wants. This feels like a “look over here” move to distract from the true goal. In phantom menace all eyes were metaphorically on Naboo while palpatine was being elected to chancellor of the republic. I could be wrong though.

Great video!!! Expectations are very low that the folks writing the Acolyte care about the best thing to come out of Star Wars in the past 20 years.

Tenebrous was bad at least he gave us plaugess

I always thought it would have been cool if Tenebrous would have infected sidious when he killed Plageous and that's what made Sidious so strong. Being three Sith Lords in one.

Does it matter "who could be alive" when they can will anyone's age as they please? At least they're keeping their hands off Dooku.

Qimir is gonna get punished for this

Tenebrous wanted to create a Jedi PLandemic. Lmfao. He was a badass!

Could you guys please do a Sith History deep dive, starting with who Tenebrous Sith Master was.

I think Tenebrous is the Sith Master in this series. His teaching reflects in Qimir. "The Jedi live in a dream". Matches Tenebrous philosophy a lot. Anti mysticism from dealing with his former master. Also Qimirs use of advanced armor to dissipate the energy from a lightsaber is likely supplied by him as a engineer. As a master shipbuilder he likely has access to a lot of exotic materials. Additionally Qimiir is shown to know how to make poisons, likely learned in Tenebrous lab as he was developing a force virus. Qimir is likely to be a failed apprentice that Tenebrous kills for revealing himself to the Jedi. And then he moves his focus to Plageuis.

my guy invented big brain

I am the secret Sith lord; it's me.

Tennebrus infect his own student with his own Max-iclorons, man that was unexpected.

Darth Tenebrous also had another aprentice called Darth Venemous while still having Darth Plagus as an aprentice. So, he may have had other secret aprentices too.

Plagues broke tenebrous neck while surveying the cortosis mine.

I wouldn't be surprised if Qimir isn't even the apprentice, but the Acolyte.

That species made for great musicians. It takes great mind to interpret maths into musical notes. Nothing easy about it. Food for thought. Myself i think the human voice is the greatest musical instrument

Plagueis is one of the greatest Sith lords of all time, not just for his abilities in the force, but his intellect.

The Sith has been training in the shadows. The rule of two can rival other Siths

Tenebrous has been one of my favorite Sith since I first read of his legends appearances. A being consumed by science, who became a prisoner of his own hubris, how could I not?

I totally agree with you in The Acolyte. I would love to see an actual show done PROPERLY with Darth Tennbriss and Darth Plagueis that would be incredible. I'm still waiting for my film about the 20 some odd years of Darth Vader's life between part 3 of the prequels and part 4 the original Star Wars no doubed A New Hope. That's something everyone I think wants to see as it's the subject of many SW comics books and very little we've seen in live action as in 'Kenobi' but we've never gotten a Sith Lord movie or TV show. And doing a movie before Vader gets to his position in a New Hope would be a financial win fall for Disney. Instead I'm getting a bad show that has major disconnected aspects. Disconnected from episode to episode. Disconnected from the audience as it's hard to be invested in these characters. As well as disconnected from a lot we know as truths in the SW Galaxy. I think it's great to expand SW into different eras but not to where that can become detrimental to SW canon. The Acolyte has been put almost completely into inexperienced hands. We have a creator, head writer and director that are all one person who has only co-wrote one other show in Russian Doll. Only in Russian Doll Leysle Headland co-wrote it with Amy Poler and Natasha Lyonne. Two very experienced writers, actors and geniuses in the showbiz industry. It's clear Disney cares more about the image of Disney as whole than the actual product they produce since it has a hardcore built in fanbase they're currently exploiting. I'm all about inclusion as well but again not when it's detrimental to the product. When you choose someone on image alone and not experience. This is what you get. A show that's rumored to have cost a million dollars a minute and over 4 years to produce. After that at that price you're looking for perfection and what we've gotten is sloppy, looks very much like a set. Most egregious to me. When not in a CGI battle everyone's lightsabers look like long glow sticks. Everyone wants to know where all that money went because it's not on the screen. That's for sure. IMO it was spent on Headlands learning curve and that didn't even work because it's still crap. I believe Headland will do the only thing she knows how to and leave a bunch of untied ends then will say it's all part of the mystery in the show. IDK that for sure though because Headland has so little experience to go on. But from that tiny sample size I think it's clear Headland was on way over her head and has been overwhelmed. Then thought she had gold! Only to find out that was gold foil wrapped around a turd. Poor poor SW 🌌 Galaxy and fans. Inclusion works in good projects too. LMAO.

My initial thought was this guy is a left over experiment from Darth Tenebrous. He pretends to be a Sith, but he's not and he was brainwashed by is previous master to forget everything tied with is previous Master. So he forgot his identity so he's just a loose canon.

Re-watching this. I just realized that like gorge Lucas's plan to make the prequels rhyme with the Original trilogy, The Story of tenapris is like a Scail between Palpatine and Plagus. Tenabris did belive the force was something one can understand with logic and science, but he also didn't discount or completely ignore any details that didn't match his beliefs in the Force. Plagus on the other hand did and had the mindset to disprove all things Force related and instead worked on the lesser known Midoclorians, which is an individuals ability to control the force. As for Palpatine, he went all the way to the other end for Plagus, belivening and diving deep into the preaching of the Dark side, completely looking down on Plagues obsession with the midiclorions. Ironically though, like how Tenapris believed in more about science over the force, Palpatine did the exact opposite. Both of which preferred there understanding, but was willing to at least listen and consider a point from the other side of the table, if it helped further there goals in the end. Honestly, if ya like this speculation Into the 3 sith masters who were back to back masters within a 100 years. I'd love to see your thoughts on this (or maybe a future speculation theory/lore dive into this by The Stupendous Wave)😁👍

He is the actual Acolyte.

Disney could easily fix the ki adi mundi plot hole by showing the sith erasing them from his memory.

This is an amazing story that not even single writer from Disney could pull off to be honest, because they dont hire actual fans of Star Wars

Would be so hilarious if its just one of the mothers. Im gonna have so much fun browsing twitter if its true. I hope it is.

Darth Ramage taught Tenebrous

Man you are about the hardest working RU-vidr I’ve seen I’m sure you spend forever on making scripts and what not it would be kinda cool if u made a vid taking ab how u make a video normally

Great distillation, Good Sir. I do like the machinations of Darth Tenebrous. My hope is that his scientific/alchemist practices to create a Force Plague, draw some kind of inspiration from both the existences of The Nameless and The Drengir. As much as I dislike The Acolyte, and discount its inclusion in SW canon, I'm still hoping to see Lord Tenebrous appear in this miniseries. And, yes, my hope is that Qimir is Venamis. May The Force Be With You, Brother. P.S. Yes, I'd LOVE to see Ruges Nome appear in live-action and Animation.

Of course I'd want to see Darth Tenebrous on-screen!

Wow, this is insane. The ultimate Dark Lord..

Cool

Tenebrous is the current Master. Plagueis, at his possible oldest, is 15 and being the apprentice. Venamis, like Tenebrous was a Bith and Plagueis was a Muun. Tenebrous did have a list of known powerful force sensitive users. Qimir IMO is one of those on the list.

Dark Tennis Ball

The rule of two is really funny because no Sith Lord followed it.

The ending to his story is scary

Awesome video….I wish we could see every sith in the bane line smh hopefully Disney doesn’t disappoint in the end of the season

Yay. Tenebrous is my favorite!

This is what i was thinking all along. Just couldn't remember Venemous's name.

This is very interesting. Very! Tenebrous was really smart. Extremely. I can imagine he's fear.It came back to haunt him😊Everything he did.Tenebrous was foolish. Extremely arrogant at the end. So he is trapped in the cave. I'm not sure it's Tenebrous. I would like to see him on big screen. May the Force be with you too😊

the people need a yoda vs vader analysis

I always liked to think that Tenebrous did in fact become that ultimate Sith, or at least close to it. In newer material it seems to me like Vader is more like a Sith spirit that possesses Anakin, or inVades him (I know, cheap play on words, but Hollywood writers do that stuff.). Tenebrous being that invader. He kicked off the creation of the Chosen one (Anakin) and then later possessed him since he knew his lifespan would run out.

This story line would make a far better Star Wars show than anything we've had before. If only Disney would produce more shows and movies from the legends

Darth Tenebrous is one if my favorite Sith Lords probably even top 10, And if he does make a cameo in the Acolyte I might consider watching just for that

These Sith have been watching The Boys on Amazon Prime.

Anakin has always been the chosen one. The one to restore order to the force. The one who will be redeemed by his begotten. The greatest part of all.

I thought this. Something akin to Darth Maul. A 3rd "Sith" who is disposable and who can afford to expose themself to accomplish their goal

he said he has no name, as in he hasnt been knighted a sith yet. so for there to be another sith master, there would have to be a master on screen already

There is a distinction between a sith and a dark side wielder. One practices specifically the sith doctrine and has sith eyes, the other just uses the dark side

So this guy is either a Sith Assassin, a secret apprentice (we all know how much Tenebrous loves that shit), or a pretender?

Darth Tenebrous didn’t die by the way, he went into hiding and started a Jizz band that plays in cantina’s.

Yes they should do the rule of 2 starting with Darth Bane! I would love to see this on the big screen!

Darth malgus at his apprentice state.

I'm a big fan of Star Wars, but apparently, I'm not as big a fan as I thought. I have only watched the shows and movies. That's it. THAT'S my canon. The fact that you, one of the most well-versed in Star Wars lore creators I follow, and other creators, who shall remain nameless, STILL harp on Ki Adi Mundi's line from TPM, blows my mind. Everyone has cited the Plagueis novel at some point or another. The need to bash The Acolyte is astounding. Thank you for bringing both Tenebrous and Plagueis to light, DURING this time period! That being said, I think Quimir is just an overly ambitious Apprentice with a thirst for killing.