Check out the channel JM7thlevel. JMs channel pretty much fits the description of what you’re asking for. I didn’t know he had a channel for a while since it’s pretty small.
Hell yeah about time big boys train for a decent arch. Looking forward to the next video. Would like to see 74-83kg lifters on this channel and coaching for smaller body types.
Absolutely incredible! Tremendous knowledge in such short instructional video. This is how it's supposed to be done. Old school way. It's amazing that even many seasoned lifters do it the incorrect way. Thank you for this video. Absolutely amazing! Keep it coming.
These are the type of ppl,who know there shit and every little thing to help you be better,you'd be suprised at how the smallest changes can make some of the biggest differences
Coach JM, the gym that I go to only has Smith machines and dumbbells. Can I use the diamond grip on the Smith machine bench press? And how would I apply it to the dumbbell bench press? Thank you.
I'll tell you that Zack Vogler, after this experience, will train in his own way, because that record of 550 was made in his own way. 550 Raw is an impressive record That's a good plug, but I can't work like that, I lose 1-2 reps.
~3 years ago i inclined 275 and it didnt feel that great so i wanted to call it for the day...but a buddy of mine said nahh jyst drop to 225 immediately and rep it. My right elbow has been utter trash since.....until i started gripping the bar like this ~2 months ago. I could not put 205 on the bar on any pressing movements without elbow wraps. For almost 3 years id wake up in the morning with an elbow that would make u contemolate blowing ur brains out. During the day under normal activities..it was fine unless i had to do some sort of extension u der tension...like pressing against the steering wheel while driving. No joke... That elbow issue that i assumed meant the end of meaningful pressing since im in my 40's.....was virtually completely eliminated within 2-3 weeks. It was noticeably less pain the very first wkt. Its gone now. Im still going to continue with more explosive sub maximal lifting and not going near failure....but im benching almost everyday now. Ill go heavy, which for me is 85-90% but at least 2 reps short of failure....then ill do super light 1-200reps the next day. But i tried this months and mobths ago and it didnt really help the elbow for more than a week or two. Im making near linear progression. I just high inclined 255 with speed.....part of a contrast load wkt so i got 3 singles on that weight with speed indicating ~85% of my 1rm. Its fucking incredible. No pain. I cant beleive i lifted ~20-25 years without ever learning about this type of grip. U wouldnt think it would make such a orofound difference but i cant stress enough that it absolutely does. When it gets warmer and i can do some wkts at hime again in my back porch...i cant wait to try buffalo bar wkts incorporating this grip. I might actuslly develop a decent fucking bench for once in my miserable 1 step forward 2 steps back lifting career.
Would this not work with a narrower grip, or was that wide grip just part of the “shorten the distance or increase the stability” part? It seems like it should work, but I’m not sure if I’m missing something
Yes. Hey , I was weak in my shoulders when I first went max grip, too. But it cuts the total range. And you can always bust your ass to get strong shoulders. I did.
Who told you THAT? If it's true, explain how it works. It is untrue, but I'd like to hear out your thought process. Maybe I missed something. What is it about "tall guys" that does NOT follow the laws of physics?
@@j.m.blakley4126 Woah I got a reply from J.M. Thanks for willingly sharing your knowledge over the years, it's helped me tremendously. No one told me, my comment was based purely on anecdote and experience as a 6'5" guy. It just seems like people with long arms are usually tricep dominant pressers. When you tell them to pick the most comfy grip it's usually something like pinky/ring finger on the ring.
This is such garbage lifting advice for anyone who isn't a serious powerlifter that's competing. Literally anyone else should not be following this advice and should be benching in a much different manner
@@snorlaxcom he use to train the one girl whos quite jacked in some of his videos at the gym I work at. I spoke to hime a couple times and a guy he knows who does youtube for a living asked me if I would be interested and obviously I said yes
I'm Korean(south) and my english is bad. but I really want to appreciate your teaching. I had a trouble in bench press. when I do bench, always hurt my elbow or wrist or felt shoulder impingements. Now, My problem has gone perfectly by your teaching. Especially your way to grip is perfectly no hurt!!!! Thank you!! God bless you!!!
Wanted to give a quick thank you, had really bad pain in my right wrist after a working set and immediately went to work to correct it. Landed on your video after tirelessly trying to correct my wrist position but still having that sharp pain. Not only did I end up fixing the wrist pain, but I immediately noticed how much more of my chest I was using as soon as I made the correction, it’s insane. Again, thanks so much!
I was taught very quickly how important it is to make sure your grip is holding the bar right above the bones of your forearm. While in my case it takes the form of the pinch "bulldog" grip, it starts with the similar diamond hand formation. Whenever I've shown someone this kind of grip adjustment, they couldn't believe how much better it felt!
I don't like the theory about maximum legal grip. People have different anatomy which makes them stronger in different positions. You need to feel it out
Should grip width be dictated by ones shoulder width? Based on that what is even considered narrow vs wide. Im asssuming close grip press is about as narrow as u can get...but is a safe wide grip that isnt bad for shoulders?
I'm I seen. Guy. Roll bar off the bench rack because the bench. was old school had no. lip with suicide grip busted his 8 teeth he only had 95lbs cracked his jaw. he had no clue.
JM, I just came across this video. I don't know if you are still creating these videos but I will say thank you. I am still learning about developing strength and I know some of that has to do with grip, utilizing the angles that pertain to achieving the goal from the shortest distance and of course support. This was very important to listen and watch. Time to work on both my arch and grip.
I remember being 13-14 when I first started lifting. Used to get every issue of powerlifting USA and look forward to reading JM’s column. Kept every issue. Wish that magazine was still around. Its content put all the other weight lifting magazines to shame. Thank you JM for what I learned 25 years ago!
Why is this man the only one teaching people to not let the bar sit over nothing - how to keep the bar over the arm and to minimize need for wrist wraps. Awesome!!! Thank you!!!!!
2:40 Everyone gets the idea of less range of motion being beneficial. What I think some people don't understand is leverage matters way more. The best bencher in the world goes pinky on the rings for info
Going that wide really hurts my anterior delt. I’ve got long arms but normally put my pinkies at the ring. Is this just discomfort that I’ll adapt to? I’ve had a lot of shoulder pain in bench so much of my form is focused behind keeping my shoulders pain free because sometimes it’ll last for a month or two.
@@loreuzis Yeah, my grip width is a fair amount more narrow than most with my height and wingspan but it’s the only way I can keep my shoulders healthy enough to bench twice a week. It’s something I wouldn’t mind having a real specialist look at to see if there’s something else I’m missing in my form. One thing I’ve noticed with going more narrow, it can be trickier to groove it right when I’m getting near 1RM weight.
This Video showed me that i can Bench wide, that i can Bench using my Bench Not my Trizeps, that i can actually Bench without this fucked Up sticking Point leaving me at around 100kg for years. And all this without the Chronic shoulderpain i was experiencing
Wow- what a great video- thank you for putting this together. This really changed my perspective on grip for bench. Something else I tried that helped me after watching this is walking up to the unloaded bar, behind it, close to a spotter/lift-off position. Then with one hand/arm, grip the bar and press the bar down into the rack/hooks with all your force, straight down. Then look at where the knurl marks are on your palm. That's the location where you can drive the most force and power into the bar. It's not on your upper palm finger pads. It's way down on the meat of your lower palm and really lines up with your ring finger. Thanks!
I understand What u mean when u say get the widest grip possible for less rom. But So u dont believe in other leverages as tricep dominant in the bench? Julius maddox is the strongest bencher in the world and his grip is pretty narrow for a guy his size.
I've got elbow pain at the bottom of my lift when I'm benching. Any ideas what is causing it? I'm making a come back since the pandemic hit. It started when I was able to do 120lbs dumbell presses on flat bench. Maybe I did it too soon but my elbows hasn't been the same since, about 3 weeks. Now I'm shakey at the bottom of my lift both barbell and dumbells. It's weird
I’m not sure the extra wide grip works as well for raw benchers as for shirted benchers. Although the bar may travel a shorter distance, the wider grip means your triceps are not as directly engaged off the chest. So, although the distance is shorter, the biomechanics change. In a shirt, the shirt helps you off the chest. You don’t get the same assistance if you bench raw.
Raw benchers benefit MORE. The rub is...YOU GOTTA BUILD SHOULDER STRENGTH! if a wide grip "feels" worse to you, get busy on shoulder strength. As for triceps drive from the chest...?. Hold a light bar or dumbell at your chest and flex your triceps. The triceps move the elbow joint only. They extend it. They lock out the lift, not begin it. There is no way to flex them to "help" get the bar off the chest. They would only move your forearm out to the side ,not up. Don't believe me? Try it. Yes, they stay " tight" but that's it. THIS IS WHY A CURSORY EDUCATION IN ANATOMY IS PRICELESS. Get on line and learn the muscles, what they do, and how they work. You will never regret a minute if it.
I have 6.2 inch wrists and I'd be screwed without this grip haha! I naturally figured this out by necessity really but good to see that I am on the right path!
