Welcome! Every now and then Antifascists get some news coverage and this video gets a bunch more views! This is an educational resource that I made to help the public better understand these ideas. If you scroll down you'll see that I do my best to engage with people and have a general policy of not removing comments. The vast, vast majority of my replies, as you'll see, are to people who simply comment without watching the video. So again, I would urge you to actually watch it before commenting or you'll only make a fool of yourself! I've no doubt that a lot of people aren't really here to learn or discuss and just want to express their feelings of sympathy with fascism - I leave their comments up and reply to them anyway because I want everyone else to see, and for them to know themselves, that they can't pretend to be rational and sensible or expect to be taken seriously by people who want to use their brains and hearts to better themselves. I do remove comments that contain slurs, threats, fascist propaganda, or antisemitic conspiracy theories, as sadly all too many do.
Philosophy Tube What The goatie is trying to tell those too young to understand is apparently nazis are everywhere , I do not pretend to know how bad things are in America but I’m sure the goat does , here in the UK however the “ far right “ is something constructed for an agenda the goat knows all too well , division is his message , be warned
My apologies if I went off inappropriately in some comments. I hope they were at least a good read. Tried to be helpful where it seemed prudent. Thank you for your video.
@@nickmagrick7702 To be more succinct than my previous replies: It's cool, wording things correctly can be pretty challenging on the Internet, especially with how many people are determined to purposefully misrepresent your views. There are extremists of every standpoint, they don't represent the wider community. Making sure white people, or any majority, aren't privileged by law is not the same as "favouring minorities". Peoples right to love who they want and not feel judged is more important than reproduction, because those who want to reproduce still will, and if anything, we could do with a birth rate below replacement rates for a while. There are too many people as it is.
@@nickmagrick7702 Not from me at least. Personally, I don't believe insulting Internet strangers is all that productive. Neither side really gains anything from it. I may have a deep, profound disagreement with the views you stated, but that doesn't mean I should insult you as a person for them. Plus, if a person is trolling, I find polite conversation is often the best counter.
"everythings so serious now all the time." said the joker and pressed the button. but we dont need the jewish, christian, muslim batman. we need a secular police, not inquisition/shariah!!!
“We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist.” James Baldwin
Except everyone thinks they’re oppressed. Calling into question someone’s supposed oppression is not oppressing, it is critique. Most people can’t handle it because victim status is very alluring. Take me, I’m a queer Arab woman. I have a lot I could complain about but I don’t like giving power over to others to control my destiny keeping me where I am. If I don’t like people or systems where I am, I will move. If I don’t like my life, I will change it. That quote is dumb, and limits any critique of the individual.
@@MmmMulholland if you don't like giving power over your life to others, this quote is perfect. This is about rights of people like you not being recognised. Remember that quote exists within a context No not everyone feel opressed. Only the actually opressed people do. Other just like to pretend equality is opression when it robs them of privilèges
@@smile-tl9in "No not everyone feel opressed. Only the actually opressed people do." So when the white nationalists claim to be oppressed they actually are? Or would this be inconvenient for your argument so it doesn't count? "They're only pretending to think they're oppressed when it's a group I disagree with!!!!!!"
Mrs. Thorn, I want to say, from the bottom of my heart, I am so thankful you've left this video up over the years. This information and framing is more important now than when it came out.
I’ve used this to some success when arguing ideology and policy: “In my world, you and I both get to live and be free. In your world, you get to, but I do not. And that alone proves you cannot be right.”
@@SafavidAfsharid3197 is it just my subjective to believe that non white people cannot exist in a truly Nazi State? Beacause thats an objective statement of fact
2017: People who wear masks at a protest are likely there to incite some public harm 2020: People who do not wear masks at a protest are likely there to incite some public harm
I'm glad you mentioned that liberals can sometimes be sympathetic to fascists. I think it's starting to stick in people's heads that liberal and leftist aren't the same thing.
i’m inherently jealous of someone who looked this good then and still got a glow up lol. it feels so disorienting watching her old videos. we love you abby, thanks for years of amazing content :)
Yeah very disorienting, I've been watching Abigail's videos for years before she transitioned and I clicked on this expecting her current self and had to do a double take when she started talking. I only then looked and saw that this video was 6 years old. You're right about the glow up though.
This was one of the more disturbing videos I've ever seen. Thank you. The subject being covered, and the disturbing realities of contemporary fascism, are the reason for the discomfort. I've saved it in a playlist, and will watch it again. I need to think about what I am going to do with what you've taught me. Than you again, and please keep producing your videos for many years to come! ❤❤❤
Perfectly put. Watching this I had to pause many times; it's disheartening seeing how organised facists are, and how the general public (usually older people) are stuck on the fact that they're liberal because they want to keep using bigoted antiquated language.
@@pckle a state of having perpetual enemies and always both being surrounded and helpless and absolutely right and powerful is fascist speak. Antifascists are just fascist-lite and political ideology being reverend with religious fervor is a massive disgusting flaw in the human experience.
@@prkp7248 You can't really think of capitalism and the state as separate entities. What we often call the state is a company. Maybe it is a company ran by the people, a small elite or somewhere in between. In a fully capitalist society the companies makes up the state, like in China. Anarchosyndicalists tries to achieve a "stateless" society while achieving socialism. What method works, works better/worse than other methods and which methods doesn't work I don't know. I guess marxism-leninism was quite the failure. But I am not educated in economy, social science and all that type of shit. So my words don't mean much in the grand scheme of things. I just think we should go forward scientifically and with an open mind. I also know where I want to go based on how I value the individual experience of every conscious being.
@@prkp7248 ... Oh and if you believe in Karl Marx then he thought that capitalism would fail eventually for as long as no force such as a government is acting as it's iron lung. This due to capitalism's supposed unstable nature. Maybe the problem is that the governments are backing up the capitalists in times of crises instead of letting them die off.
I got downvoted on Reddit for questioning someone: aren't we all anti-fascists as a standard? No one is on a "meh idc" status on fascists, are they? Turns out. They do.
Yeah but that's like saying aren't we all feminists it has a connotation to people like big red and triggly puff radicals ruin it and I'm just the normal person you could say I'm an LGBT rights advocate but I only have a little extremer than the normal guy
27:45 this hit home for me. I'm disabled, trans, gay and in an interracial relationship. (I know i'm winning the opression olympics). Whenever someone pretends that my ideology is as much as a choice as a fascists or neonazi is, I feel so powerless because there is a fundamental misunderstanding. I may be able to hide my trans and/or gayness, i can't hide my disability, my partner can't hide his race. We have way less choices and none of them guarantee our safety.
56:45 in Belgium this tactic is often used by not differentiating between different kinds of immigration. We have a huge influx of people from the Netherlands and France each year. It's because we have 3 official languages, of which 2 are widely used (french and dutch). You can also navigate our society quite easily if you only speak English. However, when a white dutch person immigrates to Belgian they are obviously still an immigrant and can be used in immigrant statistics. There was a widely spread headline that said 'more then 50% of babies born in a big city have at least one non-belgian parent'. This makes it sound like 50% of babies are biracial, while in fact the vast majority were white but just had a dutch, french, british or even german parent.
"If I were to break into the House of Commons and make my views known very loudly with a lot of swearing, I would expect to be shut down." *side-eyes the American Capitol Building*
but if you are in antifa's side you can set a courthouse on fire and it's still not considered as terrorism. And there I was thinking that attack on federal buildings is a terrorism. Silly me.
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 really? Antifa exploded a pipe bomb at a court house in Portland this summer? Where's the outcome? Antifa set a courthouse on fire few weeks ago. Who is talking about antifa's acts of terror? CHOP was a terrorism because local residents were hold as hostages. Why is it only called terrorism when right does it?
It's funny how I discovered this channel through it's new content and now I have to watch this old videos made by a completely different person, only to realize they are in fact, the same person. Absolute slay.
38:27 Thank you for the critical mention of pacifism! I’m a pacifist anarchist (or an anarcho-pacifist) and it is extraordinarily important to bring up the fact that being passive and being pacifist are not the same. Assertive pacifism with direct, non-violent action through protest, education, and community aid is certainly not just sitting around and being passive. The state *is* violence and opposing it is peace. While I don’t believe that opposing state violence with violence is going to protect us from state violence, I also don’t believe we can simply sit by and let ourselves be hurt. Stand up, take action, and stay as peaceful as possible.
pacifist anarchist, whahahahahahahahaha looking at how soft your face is I bet you actually believe in this bullshit. I won't be doing anything to you, but I most certainly will grab my pop corn while i watch other people feed you to their dogs.
34:00 "In that case, black skin was a mark of criminality. And from that, it was assumed that a crime must have been committed" or, as Stefan Burnett from Death Grips puts it, "Born with a ski mask on my face"
"and here's a Hindu group in Boston whom antifa labelled as Fascist for being pro-free-speech, at which antifa then attacked a Black woman." Antifa = anti-capitalist Strasserites, POSING as anti-fash. They even beat up two Latino Marines, whilst the ALL WHITE "antifa" gang called them "b*aners" and "sp*cs". Strasserites hate Hitlerites, but Strasserites are 100% as much a part of the ORIGINAL Nazi Party as Hitler was, and 1920's "progressives" welcomed Strasserites into America (as part of Operation Paperclip, and more), whereupon Soros and other Strasserites joined Dem Party and subverted it from within. Who was Margaret Sanger, what was her relationship with Hitler, and why does the "liberal, (supposedly) anti-racism" Dem Party still give tax dollars to her RACIAL EUGENICIST org today? What was George Bernard Shaw's relationship with Hitler, and was he left or right? Is he still accepted by leftist professors today? What was "progressive" president Woodrow Wilson's relationship with the KKK? PROGRESSIVES, more than any other Dem Party faction, combine racism and socialism, just as the original Strasserite Nazis did. They still do, trapping Blax into self-destruction, just as SANGER said she admired how Hitler used "Kapos" and "Judenratten" to trap Jews into self-destruction. ...Hillary "I'll only talk to WHITE people" Clinton then called Sanger her "hero".
As certain as I am that you will never read this comment, I just wanted to say that as a bearded lady myself, I can clearly see your femininity even in these older videos where you’re hiding it :) thank you for being a source of not only excellent entertainment, but also inspiration!
Here again at the end of the video, I wanted to add a note on the actual content, this video was very informative and well organized, but I couldn’t help but notice the lack of discussion on how facists marry religion and politics and what antifa does/can do about it. This is particularly an issue in present day USA, and was a core part of the rise of the Nazis.
Anyone who thinks the Nazis were socialist because it's in the name, I invite them to move to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. That place must be awesome!
@@KaiRex27 Apparently you just pick a couple things off of the naughty list, and that's good enough. Or do you want to argue about the actual dictionary definition?
@Kerosin Fuchs If you want a monoethnic country with a single skin tone, a single static culture, a single language, no refugees and no antifascists, anarchists, anti-patriotic socialists or SJW's and with a lot of nationalism, militarist parades and a big wall for you safety, you go to North Korea!
I always feel a bit guilty rewatching one of Abigail’s pre-transition videos, but I find this video in particular to be an especially useful pedagogical tool that I can’t help but keep sending it to people
@@ElWarto93 I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. Some trans women, myself included, feel uncomfortable with people seeing us pre-transition. I’m not sure whether she’s left this video up because she’s comfortable with that, or if she’s done so because she believes the video’s importance outweighs that discomfort. Since I’m not sure which is the case, I feel a tad guilty at the possibility that the latter is true and that I send this video to people often
@@TransSappho I deal with this by determining that if she left it up bc the important of the video outweighs her discomfort than it undoubtedly should do the same for me Like it’s a choice for her to make and she’s made it, we may as well make it ever more worthwhile by watching it and sharing it so that it’s impact is as great as it can be And this video IS important 💜
I kinda get where you are coming from but I still think that you should not feel guilty for sharing this video. Like you said, she kept the video up, so apparently she is probably fine with people seeing her pre-transition. The message of this video is still valid, which is what counts, in my opinion. Then again, I (as a Cit-Het man) unfortunately don't know many trans people. So I am kinda curious: do trans people look at their work differently when they produced it in their pre-transition phase of their life? Or do you can distance yourself from the fact that you wrote something as a man and not a woman? Be sure, I don't want to offend you or any other trans person, I am genuinely curious. You don't have to answer if this is a touchy subject for you.
@@ElWarto93 hey man im not sure if you're still looking for a response but I appreciate you asking so politely. I think this varies among trans people. For me (trans man), looking at videos of myself pre-transition is kinda like how someone would look back at themselves after they grew out of their cringey teenager phase. Like "oh I used to do those things and dress that way but im a different person now" type deal. I used to make a lot of videos of myself singing, It feels weird thinking that back when i made those vids, i didnt have the same perspective on my gender as I do now. And looks wise, I've changed so much since coming out that it just feels weird seeing that I used to be a guy that wore dresses and had such a high voice. Ultimately I still see them as my videos that I made, but they were made in a phase of my life i have grown out of and no longer identify with.
18:35 The reason why the anarchists, communists, and others band together to be antifa is: Martin Niemoller long version poem is: First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
Although I agree with the cause, I am so unconvinced by these kinds of slippery slope arguments. Being opposed to communism, though it's very foolish, is a long shot away from wanting to yeet everyone to your political left, just like opposing fascism does not mean you want everyone to the political right of Sanders to be lynched. The reason all of those band together as antifa is because, for all of their differences, they all agree that fascism is bad.
"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate with that spectrum" Noam Chomsky.
Daniël V Nobody is saying authoritarian communism doesn’t do that. Lmao. It was very strict toward dissenting opinions. We’re typically always, in this community, anti-authoritarianism of all kinds.
The video draws a line between communist authoritarianism and fascist authoritarianism. The difference between the two is pointless semantics. Antifa = Fascists They use anti fascist rhetoric to spread their version of fascism.
Er Yk that is a very inaccurate take on the term “fascism”. Believe it or not it does have a definition and that definition is entirely incompatible with communism or the left entirely. Fascism is the end point of the spectrum for conservatism as communism is the end point of the spectrum for the liberalism. So to revise your statement: Fascism is authoritarian Communism is authoritarian Authoritarian = authoritarian. I don’t have the bandwidth to deal with individual sects of each group and how they may or may not meet authoritarianism or how politics is actually more of a square and not a line right now because frankly it is irrelevant.
This was the first Philosophy Tube video I watched, fully expecting that I was the leftmost overeducated white person with a van dyke who found themselves ill suited to life in academia, having given up on transition years before. I watched it when it dropped, my impending homelessness inevitable at that point. Every PhilosophyTube drop since has been eagerly awaited. I'm giving it a watch while doing my nails, getting ready to shoot my first RU-vid video, right after I finish typing this comment. FTR: I'm a GenX trans woman who first cross identified at 3, faced "corrective" treatment that left me with cPTSD which I am only now, over the last 18 months since starting HRT, able to overcome and tell my story. I qualify for the DAR through my Dad's side, and Mom was born in Norway in 1943, a result of a pregnancy subject to NSDAP racial hygiene laws. I desisted, for a time. I'm done desisting.
ah yes. Those people who blast loud music so my sister doesn't have to hear loud anti-refugee slogans throughout her neighborhood Not all heroes wear capes
Lol. Yeah, you really do. Glad you're smart enough to figure that out. That qualifies you for trial membership in the club of truth. We welcome all that welcome truth. This is a smart young man that needs to take a 50,000 ft view because he just said absolutely nothing. What fascism!?
@@jeff86ing All I've seen in the past 2 years in relation to violence and rioting would be antifa and BLM. They still have their twitter and facebook accounts. I've seen them burn down blk owned businesses, yell racial slurs at blk cops, and threaten r**** to female officers. I've yet to see anything remotely similar coming from the right. You want to know my last personal experience with Antifa? A couple years ago in CA I deleted 2 of them who were beating up an old blk lady, one with a piece of wood and the other with a pipe....her crime? "Holding a sign that said I love America, Love for everyone". YOU should be the one looking shit up.
22:34 I never thought I'd see this mentioned so widely. This event led to one of my best friends in HS committing suicide, as they were said student's partner. I remember vividly my boyfriend receiving the campus alert text while we were driving, marking the point when Scout had been gunned down. I had no idea how much my life, and the lives of almost all LGBT/Left/GA Tech and many others, would change. My grandpa had died a week earlier, and while my bf and I didn't know Scout, we were still shocked and confused. Many of my friends knew them very well, and had been involved in GA Tech's LGBT organization alongside Scout. A few days later, my bf came home with the news that our friend had shot herself in her car less than an hour after walking into a gun show, and purchasing a shotgun. If gun control were a thing, they may have been made aware that she had many mental health issues. The winter following was one of the darkest times in my life, along with my bf. She was one of the first people I came out to, and my bf was her close friend. We all went to the same HS. Several friends of ours were arrested and received felony charges for the protests mentioned in the headline. Alongside all this was the early parts of the Trump presidency and the feeling like this was just the beginning. I'm glad things aren’t as bad as I expected, but I am forever changed. It turned me into a person who actually cares about politics
@@sarahfunaki3884 the person who was gunned down by the police, and the partner of my friend who later committed suicide... in case that wasn't clear lol
@@ryanatkinson2978 Make sure you are strong and don't ever go down that path that your friend took too I;ve been there a few times and I'm honestly glad I'm not good at doing it because I'm still around. but I am also very Happy that I am and However dark life gets just remember what I say now that it will get better , So Don't Do it.
@@ryanatkinson2978 In hindsight if you don't want to don't answer that question cos that was pretty rude too my curiousity does not come before someones feelings. Hugs again my friend.
@@jeff86ing thank you for noticing the various mass shootings done by the alt right. You are entitled to believe their attempt to kill everyone at the capitol was not a coup.
@@jeff86ing you are entitled to believe McDonald's or random buildings are the government, but thank you for noticing the alt right's various mass shootings and their coup.
@@jeff86ing thank you for noticing who the capitol building contained and who the alt right tried to kill in said coup (as well as their various mass shootings).
@@jeff86ing the noodles and zip ties and shouts to hang pence had something to do with our outlook And the dead cops It looks like it never intended to do much now But I do have to wonder what would have happened if Congress didn't evacuate fast enough
WAZZA TELEVISION I’m seeing the “did you watch the video” response numerous times throughout the comments. I have debunked the “they aren’t a terrorist group” argument numerous times. And yes I watched the video. Twice. I will gladly debunk it again if you wish.
Sean Donovan I can give you the names of the leaders of Al Queada, ISIS, The KKK, and multiple different Neo Nazi groups. I can give you lists of real life terrorist attacks done on their behalf that have ended the lives of countless people. I could even give you the list of know members names and their collaborators. Name a singular one of those for Antifa and maybe you would have a point.
I don't know if Abigail mentions it in the video, I've only just started watching, but, before I forget, if you're interested in understanding how to identify fascism, I'd recommend reading Umberto Eco's "Ur-Fascism", written by a man who grew up under Mussolini's Italy
If punching racists, anti semites, Nazis and other generally bigoted people makes you uncomfortable or angry, you should really ask yourself why. If someone yelling "Kill all Jews" gets punched, they had it coming. Don't wanna get punched? Then don't say things like that, it's very simple. In real life, not everyone is willing to have a conversation and learn about the things they don't understand. Some people won't stop til their ass gets beat. Just like bullies.
One should note the alt right murdering people for using free speech, eg, Charlottesville, makes it obvious that the cries of "leftists are censoring conservatives" is not true.
@@jeff86ing i am confused. Why do you believe confronting those who bully creates more bullies? If one condemns the synagogue shooting, eg, bowers, does that create more synagogue shooters?
id disagree personally, im harshly against fascism but i don't think the aim of antifascist action should be punishment towards the individual fascists. "Beating the fascism out of someone" doesn't really work because they're already convinced that we're the enemy. If I go and punch a fascist in the face, that's just gonna make them more against me. If I instead target the recruitment tools at their source, or otherwise intimidate fascists into not performing activism, we can reduce the appeal and popularity of fascism overall.
@@bruhgaming15meleeisSOCOOL ironically, that actually was done when they punched Richard Spencer, in that he was later ostracized for appearing weak. This then lead to them losing one of their more powerful recruiting tools.
@@regisglass5464 yeah i definitely agree that that was a good thing to have happened, i just think we shouldn’t have out motivation be so much about retribution or “giving someone what they deserve”.
Hey man, This video came up on my dash the other day, at almost exactly the same time that local fascists started a huge propaganda campaign: we're a uni town and there's stickers, flyers and posters all over the local campuses, just in time for the new crop of students to show up. I spent the day tearing them down, and getting the word out about it. It's been getting a real response, and other folks are going out there to help out. I'm not sure I would've done it without this video. I had this idea that Antifa meant black block throwing punches and I didn't know if that was something I had the courage for. Realising that it could be more low-key and domestic was super cool: I tore down posters, and I did some organising. It wasn't exciting or glamorous, but it felt like good praxis and maybe it'll stop some impressionable kid going down the wrong path. I did antifascism, and it's because of you. Thanks, Olly!
Unfortunately, they're the only ones who have proven themselves resistant to Trump's propaganda, and of course the only reason for a person not to wear a mask during covid is if they're an always Trumper. (Certain medical issues are an exception here)
I always start your videos with a bias that what I'm about to hear is a left-wing, debunk-able opinion. Some videos I disliked in the first half, only to take it back by the end. Your videos always give me this mental pain as I realize that most left-wing political concepts have been straw-maned all of my life.
Ian Williams You’re feeling that pain for a reason. Because you’ve been misled all your life. Fascists aren’t your friend. And leftists aren’t fascists.
Hey, it's happened to a lot of us over here, myself included. Both Olly and Contrapoints have even talked about having this general kind of "anti-SJW" to "full-on leftist" journey themselves
tl;dr - Thanks for not getting triggered, thanks for being honest with your pain, thanks for reflecting on your beliefs no matter the direction they go, that's actually very healthy and pro-human behavior. From a cognitive behavioral point-of-view (thanks therapy) - emotional pain, like physical pain, is your body signalling to your psyche that something happening to you that goes against the worldview that allows you to be healthy *DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT SHIT NOW!!!* Generally speaking, a healthy mindset (read: a mindset that allows us to be relational to other humans, typically pro-human/pro-social thinking and behaviors) allows us to examine the outside event that is causing us emotional pain, how that event is causing us emotional pain (is it challenging our belief systems? going against our expectations?), and then coming up with a solution that not only resolves the event, but enlightens us as to how to deal with a similar occurrence in the future that will mitigate the intensity of emotional pain again, for ourselves and for second parties - this builds emotional resiliency. The more I ruminate on the things I learned in therapy, the more I begin to realize (way moreso with conservative/rightwing thinkers, but liberals/leftists can get into this too if they're not careful/thoughtful) that Outrage, Cancel Culture, Name-Calling, Morality Judgments, Cognitive Bias, Strawman arguments, etc. etc. etc. can reliably be chalked up to emotional dysregulation. Triggers (say, misgendering for trans folk, higher taxes for capitalists) are typically keywords or concepts that set off an emotional doomsday snowball-story in the triggered person's mind that makes them think that their very existence is under threat - this is what normally happens when debates/offenses get personal. Your mind tells you to fight (by obliterating the threat with name-calling or death threats, not just keeping it at arms' length), or to take flight (by shutting down the conversation via stonewalling), 'cuz if you don't, *YOU'RE GONNA DIE.* Which is ridiculous (unless you're a lawmaker, or being threatened by those wielding violent power, like cops or muggers), because words alone don't threaten the life of a human; it's these trigger words, these Big Red Panic Buttons in our minds, that set off a reactivity chain reaction in other people who don't have that emotional resiliency or aren't experienced in critical thinking. If you wish to continue holding beliefs that can be classified as "right-wing," I personally do not agree with your beliefs and I will vote against them in elections and debate, but I'm fine with the act of you merely having them, because at the stage of merely having them, they alone don't threaten my life as somebody slowly becoming anti-capitalist/pro-socialist. But I can only ask that you keep in mind that, when you hear a left-wing, debunk-able opinion, the deliverers of those ideas are trying to deliver them in good faith, only challenging your held beliefs, not trying to literally control your life or your identity against your will *at the point of discussion.* Because after all, whether you re-examine your beliefs or double down on them is completely up to you - you are the one who wields power over yourself.
Honestly when I watch these videos basically none of the statements made surprise me or don't fall in line with what I assumed the left stood for. And I say that as someone who attacks the left quite often. So my suggestion is that perhaps you are making the same assumptions about the attacks the right are making.
No, that’s called breaking away from polarized thought into alternative narratives. In a pursuit of hopefully individualism, free though and criticism. I thought and did the exact same way towards right winged channels. To which I’ve now changed. I’m open to the whole weltanschauung now. I don’t particularly think I have a political label other than ‘filthy centrist’😂
I'm watching this in August of 2023 and it, while looking at Trump's many trials and his objections to them, is making me say "ohhhh....." and "now I see." I can't believe I only found your channel yesterday, but I'm happy to have finally done so. 🙂
The bit that hit me was the prosecution of protestors for wearing black and being at an anti Trump rally. The man that made "lock her up" a rallying cry now calling his trials witchhunts - you couldn't (and wouldn't want to) make it up. Still, we are both only 5 years behind being up to date on Philosophy Tube.
I loved the "today is Wednesday" analogy, and how you used a high pitched noise when it popped on screen to represent a dog whistle, that was damn clever
Hot Fuzz is a superb critique of the police state and American glorification of police violence. The entire end setpiece is an action scene where the police don't kill a single person, then fill out paperwork and operate within due process. Angel leans towards de-escalation when possible. Every allusion to cop flicks is critical.
@@egirlSkeletor admittedly, i watched hot fuzz a couple years ago, before my political views began evolving and before being introduced to radical criticism of the police. from my half-remembered vandage point it seems like a half-critical, half-apologetic depiction: sure enough there's problems, but there's a way to fix them from within the existing system. I'm interested both in whether that was the intended meaning and in whether we could do an oppositional reading that reads hot fuzz as somehow more radical than it was meant to be, and what that might look like. not that I'm in prime position to do that without watching it again though haha. any thougths?
@@j.b.aw.6968 the death cult is a true reflection of the inner desires of the neighbourhood-watch class. Any crime including crimes against humanity are justified by such people to maintain a caricature living environment. For example, demanding that a mere civil tort even before judgement should be punished by literal life imprisonment with neither parole nor even ample space to walk and exercise.... I'm not even joking.
I'd just like to thank all butthurt nazis, fascists, paleo-cons and other whiny righties in the comment section for their great work. Without you spending sometimes hours of your lives leaving empty weepy comments here, this video would have never gotten over 2 million views. Great work my involuntary comrades.
@R34L HUM4N Beep boop, comrade, beep boop indeed :D They may be frothing non-sense but 104 comments on this channel alone are truly a stunning testament to your commitment to spread the anti-fascist word. You see: The algorithm doesn't judge. The algorithm doesn't care. It just feeds on your engangement.
@@noradrenalin8062 you are based, antifa saved my neighbourhood from a violent nazi group which had already beaten 2 people. They organized protests made grafities on the fascist hq and finally called the owner of the place they had to kick them out
@Onion Potato i live in spain in the neighbourhood of fuencarral, you can watch on youtube how the police kicked them out, they where on valverde street and they where from the group bastion frontal
@Onion Potato when did triying to stop criminals for making hate crimes and beating and harrasing people on the street became oppression of free speech? Do you know what oppression of free speech looks like? It isnt getting cancelled on twitter or being banned of a social media for saying the nword, oppression of free speech is what happened to my grandfather, who was tortured in prison for being contrary to the fascist regime, or being shot in the street for being a member of a party contrary to the regime. I recommend you to see what your local antifas do, like, actually going to the protest, just as a bystander, and ask them about what they do, if they tell you they are anarchists then they are probably idiots,but if they arent they probably do good stuff. Also, i dont think you watched the video and that's why I'm gonna ask you the following question. What did the author said about what fascism is ? And what example did the author use to say how the media portrays black people (the scavenger example)?
B D W Hardy Around the time of the Raegan administration a political pundit said something along the lines of "This country has gone so far to the right that you wont even be able to recognise it anymore..."
@@oisinryan150 he did with the example of sending support to Guatamala to support their fascists. The Dollop podcast covered it in their episode about George Bush Sr.
I think it's particularly interesting how the "Oh, I understand ... it's Wednesday" moment was accompanied by the very British and very benign gesture of tapping one's nose to suggest understanding a thing that's been subtly said, when at the same time, drawing attention to a person's nose is a dog-whistly way of suggesting that they are Jewish. It's a layer of additional meaning that I'm not even sure was intended.
I find it funny that whenever an antifascist uses violence, no matter the context, it's *always* twisted into "that makes them the *real* fascist" as if violence and fascism are perfect synonyms. It's that line of thinking that makes actual fascist ideas slide under the radar just because they're wrapped in a superficial politeness.
It's not the violence makes them fascist. It's more the fact that they are trying to use violence to coerce - and ultimately - govern the actions of the people and business they terrorize that makes them an equivalent evil to the fascists they claim to despise. I'm just some random on the internet, but I've had antifa destroy buildings and kill people in my neighborhoods. No fascists around here. Just people that claim to be antifascist. Fat lot of good that does the innocent lives they've ruined.
Was watching this on my way to work, I work at a school in Japan and it happened to be a Wednesday, one of the teachers started to say “today is ....” then paused to remember the word, I helped and said “today is Wednesday” to which she responded “ohhh, today is Wednesday”. Now we are both facist.
I think your just into nazi-chic its alittle bit different and no where as Innocent. In fact real facist have to attend Berkley university to be a real facist other wise your just one of thouse poor kids.
That "Free speech does not guarantee you freedom from consequences criticism or protest, because those are, in fact, forms of free speech." was a beautifully succinct summary and needs to be on posters all over the everywhere. (edited for summery -> summary)
@@frankatwood3095 Not what is meant. Neither you, nor I, support the idea that the government should be able to put you in prison for what you say... in fact, that's specifically what Freedom of Speech **IS** supposed to protect you from... that's the whole point. The "Consequences" that it doesn't protect you from is the things you say changing the way other people treat you. When someone says something that causes other people to be outraged and boycott that person or organisation, THAT'S consequences and not a violation of the human right to free speech. When someone says something that the state doesn't like and the state punishes/silences them for it, THAT is a violation of the human right to free speech.
@@violetsapphire952The government placing people in jail for speech is just a consequence though. You were still free to speak in the first place, just not free from the consequence.
I personally don’t believe that anti-fascist action works I think that in the end it simply radicalized is more people when you beat random people up who disagree with you
@@bemotivated8443 you seem to not have watched the video. Antifascism is not 100% punching nazis. You can be an excellent antifascist without punching or insulting anyone
The phrase "today is Wednesday" resonated with me to a degree that is so incredibly hard to articulate. Its connotations genuinely horrify me as I see just how mainstream "alternative facts" are today which have far larger implications that go beyond the simple argument. Debunking the widely accepted and proven truth is never the fascist's intention, as all he ever asks for is a seat at the table. It is only when he is granted this seat where the "alternative arguments" can be presented, as if it resembles anything equivalent to the conventional paradigm. But it is never about participating in the discussion itself, only propagating their deprived understanding of "what needs to be done" for those already sympathetic while masquerading itself as truth to the ignorant. As for the ignorant, the actions that must be done under the pretense of this bastardized conception of truth quickly become clear.
ngc4594 well it isn't. While there maybe revolutionary communists that are also antifascist that is not a requirement and the goal of antifascism isn't revolution.
I washed more than 10 seconds, but it was clear from the start that the speaker was lying through his teeth. I don't have to watch all two hours of a flat-earth video or a Vitamin-C-Cures-Everything video to know I won't find any facts in them either--once they explain that I'm not really a Christian if I refuse to accept that the "Round-Earth Theory" is a Satanist plot, I can hit the pause button and go back to listening to music without any worries. And at least Flat-Earthers and Pauling's acolytes aren't advocating a system based on hatred and envy that caused more than 100 million deaths. (Amusingly, I have better debates with flat-earthers than with socialists. Sure, they occasionally delve into ad hominems or psycho-analyzing, and they'll often jump to hilariously wrong conclusions mixed with a stubborn refusal to understand metaphors--but they're also more likely to try to put together a logical argument (even though they fail) or try to cite science (even when they badly misquote it, like Michaelson-Morley), but they're far, far less likely to devolve into schoolyard name-calling, vicious personal attacks, absolute water-is-not-wet lies, or I--know-you-are-but-what-am-I trolling.)
@@kenabbott8585 I would argue that you _do_ need to watch all two hours of a flat earther's video if you want to be able to say that everything in the video is wrong or bullshit or a lie. Otherwise, you're just baselessly saying it is because the world view you held before you watched the video disagrees. You can argue against specific things when they're presented to you and you can voice that you disagree with someone's position based on what you know of the subject, but you can't criticize a specific argument if you haven't listened to the argument in full.
Today is a special in my country, argentina, we call it "memory day for truth and justice", it conmemorates the military usurpation of the goverment and rememorates the victims of such a dark period, with the aim of never ever repeat such a tragic process. And the youtube algorithm comforts my heart with this recomendation of your videos
As a private citizen, I'd like you to make a video about what kinds of intelligence we should be gathering, and what forms of non-violent actions we could be taking. Thank you.
Just finished the video and there is a disturbingly high number of people who just saw the title, clicked, paused the video, left an uneducated comment, and then left.
@Joe Average Because antifa is the pinnacle of restraint and reasonableness. See someone you don't like? Call them fascist and loose the mob upon them. Doesn't matter if they just happen to wear a red hat or if they're just a bystander, they're all nazis who need to be clubbed, right?
@@jeanfrancois8145 Don't need to be brave or strong when you got the numbers. Get couple hundred fanatical idiots who are 100% sure of their self-righteous indignation and are convinced that US is crawling with nazis and you can do almost anything when the mayor tells the police to stand down.
@@the1exnay "Are you saying you're a fascist or anti-antifa or disagree with the video?" Does he have to? Does it matter? Is it relevant? Assuming he is - so what? All he's saying is that you can treat him as such for the sake of the argument. Make a rebuttal to fascism to him as you would were he actually a part of the group. If the argument is weak and flimsy, he may just play the Devil's Advocate and argue on the side of the neo-Nazis - theoretically, his personal affiliation shouldn't matter.
Thankyou so very much for this video, (I am a 70 year old female), I found it to be one of the best informative videos I have seen on the subject of Fascism and anti fascism. I know this video was in particular explaining Antifa, but I found it very helpful indeed as it (you) explains very clearly about how governments use the police, and a thousand other things I learnt from this great video, unfortunately I am a struggling pensioner and cannot donate any funds to this channel, but I have subscribed and will tell others, thankyou.
I wish more of the leftists in my town were as thoughtful as you are ... it is a really toxic scene here, socially, and so I am left (haha) quite isolated.
that sucks, it can feel very lonely when the people who are supposed to share your mindset are nothing like you in terms of attitude. I have "radical" left-wing ideas but not radical ways! I will debate my family and people online but I've yet to go out on the streets or make an example out of anyone also, while the thought of slapping a neo-nazi/fascist/white supremacist whatever is tempting, I think in real life, if I'm faced with an actual human being spouting hate and violence, I'm going to be more hurt than itching to hurt them back. It's just not in my nature, which is actually a pity since the people who want to wipe out me and my race are not going to feel that kind of hesitation anytime soon so I'm at a disadvantage already
"if I were to break into the house of commons and make my criticisms of the British government very loudly with a lot of swearing then I would expect to be shut down" ... This sentence has not aged well in 2021.
It's aged perfectly well, if you're referring to the murderous fascist riot at the US capitol. The fascists breaking in there should have expected to be shut down there, too. But somehow ... they weren't. But most people agree that they should have been ... at least before anyone died. As much as I'm appalled by it, I hope that at least it illustrated the intrinsically violent nature of fascism that the video discussed to a much wider audience.
@futo nara Pretty sure they chanted that due to Pence not trying to overturn the election for 'Daddy Trump'. Guess you don't pay much attention to things that go against your view.
Recently as my miniature antifa act I've been trying to get nazi symbolism out of my school's walls and furniture. I always carry hand sanitizer to get rid of sharpie writings and I've been annoying school faculty to patch up walls where there have been swastikas carved in (it worked!!) So far there has been some improvement! really glad that this video exists. :))
tellmeemoar that’s great! Maybe try joining local antifa social media groups too and see if you can help any other ways. Maybe reading some anti fascist literature at your local library or something too, I’m glad you’re so enthusiastic!
I think most of those swatsikas draw on high school or middle settings are done with little cognitive awareness on what it really was and are just trying to be edgy. Out of high school is a different thing though
Martin Armenta sure some may be edgy kids but what about when those kids grow up used to talking seriously about Nazis? And how do you know what is edgy and what if genuine nazi imagery? Why does it even matter their intentions, they’re still hate symbols?
I found Abi's channel a couple days ago as part of my attempts to salvage the broken wreckage of my social, political, and economic viewpoints which were a confused mess of social democratic beliefs, incel-ish ideas, gamergate bullshit, and maybe some classical liberalism to otherwise tenuously fill in any ideological cracks before ultimately falling apart following me realizing that I am a trans woman, although its quite nearly starting to feel like my entire conception of myself and the world around me. I watched the whole video, appreciate, and wish to leave some engagement for the robot overlords. I wish I had something more to contribute at this time, but right now, I really just wanna finish this comment and post it because I keep accidentally hitting the cancel button.
Last year, this was the first philosophy tube video I’d ever seen. Gave me so much to think about, a little theory to go with my praxis. On this rewatch, I noticed/learned: -The practical advice about avoiding razor blades in fascists’ signs 😱 (missed it somehow before) -the liberalism video series is mentioned at least 3 times, to explain why liberals inevitably usher in fascism -that HUNDREDS of anti fascist protestors from Trump’s inauguration were charged with FELONIES for wearing black (and meanwhile the violent white supremacist fascists are often getting only misdemeanors for storming the capitol on Jan 6) Speaking of which, the chills I got when I first saw the videos of the militant fascists (PBs? 3%ers?) In the Jan6 Capitol riot chanting “F*** Antifa” 😡🙅🏽
Another way that the whole "Covid is a hoax cooked up to institute tyranny" claim is BS. What tyrannical government wants to normalize its population wearing masks all the time?
I know I started to fall down that rabbit hole. Once people like Thunderf00t and The Amazing Atheist started talking about SJWs and Feminism, I quickly found myself agreeing because "Free Speech" and "but what about", the Drunken Peasants Podcast started having guests like Sargon and what not, and I started subscribing to them, and I was quickly falling down the rabbit hole with no return in sight. Then I started to see how they reacted to LGBT people, especially Trans people, and I started to feel squicky. Then there was a lot of "Hillary must not win", and I went, yeah, I mean, she's not great, but ehh.... and then it came to "Trump isn't that bad" and I finally realized, these people aren't what I thought they were. I think it was actually HBomberGuy that got me starting to really reevaluate things, I had already discovered him awhile back because of his Fallout 3 video, and started looking for other videos, and then he started videos about feminism and things like that. Then I discovered /r/traaaaaaaans which lead me to ContraPoints and /r/CompleteAnarchy, which lead me to Shaun, which led me to this channel and so on and so forth.
In regards to your first paragraph, there's a good reason why Richard Spencer considers someone like Sargon of Akkad an "entry point" into white nationalism, as much as Karl himself would try to deny it.
I had an extremely similar journey. Looking back I am very lucky that I’ve found Channels like HBomberguy and that my path diverged from the Sargons, Thunderf00ts etc.
Ironically, neither thunderf00t nor the amazing atheist, have said anything negative about lgbt, or positive about Trump. I wouldn't put TAA anywhere near the Sargon-type circlejerk at all, and TF has mostly dealt with the Anita Sarkeesian meme. The real rabbit hole is Sargon, which is essentially, as I'd call it, "chaotically conservative". I do think a lot of youtubers on "that side" suffer from PR just because of their association, and their clickbait, though. Tim Pool for example, while still reasonable in his opinions, his controversial clickbait draws in the right-wing circlejerk, and he kinda does that on purpose. Sargon, also used to be very "rational" but has devolved to being the definition of the circlejerk, and his audience has degenerated to the bottom of the barrel and that includes his content. Chris Ray Gun, which shouldn't even be mentioned here, because of his association with some of them, went from being considered a meme commentary channel, to a political right-wing commentary, by many, which is not at all what it is. It's so dumb, because all of them are massively different in their opinions and their goals. As I see it, the problem with that perception, is network effects, combined with clickbait, and ideological immigration from reactionary audiences, making you feel like you're in a tight clique, even noticing the groupthink. That's because many of those RU-vidrs don't tend to dedicate videos to criticizing right/alt-right/fascist things, because either they agree, but also because, ironically, it's _too obvious_ that there's no point in criticizing something _so obviously_ bad as fascists. And hence, since they don't _explicitly_ promote different ideas, and associate with each other more closely, the ideological "immigrants" find a clique they can call their own, even if they're not. I don't even know why I'm typing all this, but I do feel that the network dynamics here, are not to be underestimated, and I don't want to see RU-vidrs thought of differently to what they are.
I remember reading in my Abnormal Psychology textbook that in the early 1900s, the mentally ill in the United States were forcefully sterilized to prevent them from "breeding" which made me take a step back and realize that I was never once taught this in school and I was only ever taught that the United States were (almost) always the good guys. Eugenics has a deep rooted history in America and it's terrifying.
**literally one bad thing happens over 100 years ago** People like you: "OH MY GOD IT'S GOT A DEEP ROOTED HISTORY, IT'S EVERYWHERE YOU'RE JUST TOO BLIND TO SEE IT!" **puts on tinfoil hat** Not everything is a conspiracy, yes, bad things happened 100 years ago. That doesn't mean it happens now, does it
The OP was not just talking about not being taught a specific thing, but also the whole "flawless good guy America" narrative. If we want something dangerous I was specifically taught, I was taught the Civil War started as a fight over "states' rights". At least slavery was still mentioned as a bad thing.
@@SadistModeOn For sure, that's a bad thing to be taught, but it's not like the abolition of slavery was the only thing that sparked the civil war, it was more federalism vs confederalism, bear in mind that the states weren't united at this point, and yet Lincoln, who only won in some of the states, had the ability to exert control over all of the other territories that hadn't even become states yet, and couldn't actually vote to my knowledge. So it always seems pretty disingenous to suggest that it was a bunch of whites trying to keep slavery that triggered the civil war, it was really more just their percieved lack of democratic input that led to them to rebel
@@topicalturtle8685 wdym the states "weren't united" we had a literal constitution that created a centralized federal government. It was infact over the states rights to own slaves. The country had been compromising on the slavery issue for years at that point and southern states had threaten to leave if a Republican had been elected because of the Republican stance on slavery. This historical revisionist bullshit is exactly why there's rioting. White people want so bad to forget our past transgressions and the effects they have today.
tenchimuyo69 There are some industrialists whose interests would make reform impossible and letting them continue to have power would be permitting their construction of fascism.
@@captainham1511 I didn't say anything about letting them continue to have power. I just believe the rich and powerful should be given a chance to learn to live like everyone else before we eat them.
This is several years old at this point, but--if you can bear the expletive--it is totally fucking brilliant. Thank you so much for having recorded it and for keeping it available!
There's nothing brilliant about a book that drops the ball right at the starting line by failing to give the correct definition of Fascism and justifying violence against political opponents based off of the twisted definition that it espouses.
@@vojislavl6665 anything justifying anitifa will make the viewer less intelligent, so no I do not need to watch the video. Just like I dont need to watch broke back mountain to know it's about gay cowboys.
Agreed, especially as the alt right has killed for things such as others using free speech. It is odd that some believe antifa opposing groups that murder means said groups cause no damage.
For example, in Charlottesville the alt right hated others using free speech and killed someone for it. Yet some believe antifa defending free speech by opposing these murders is bad.
Another example is when they confronted proud boys, who were active participants in the capitol coup. Yet antifa opposing such entities is seen as odd.
"you'll be a minority in your own country" I AM a minority in my own country. Perhaps the solution is to make being a minority not an undesireable place to be, rather than trying to avoid becoming a minority... by hating on minorities.
@King of the Chair "Self hate and Marxist institutions" When making sweeping statements like that, one should be far more specific. When saying that someone's "premises are either inaccurate or suffer from Ivory Tower perspective", one should provide examples and reasoning behind the statement.
@Jim P Your comment demonstrates to me, that we have very different views of the world and trying to address every single difference would be quite time consuming and simultaneously, unlikely to change your mind on anything. So instead, I'd find it very helpful if you could specifically point out the ill constructed arguments that irritate you in this video. If you could be more specific with your criticism of the points made, a contructive discussion would be more likely.
"Great Replacement" "What about White History Month" "I'm just a race realist/gender critical/rational skeptic" "I'm just proud of my heritage" "All Lives Matter" "I don't want to become a minority in my own country" T O D A Y I S W E D N E S D A Y
Was going to say "joke's on you, I watched this on a Wednesday" But it was already past midnight when I started this video 😂 love your channel, Abby-- you're brilliant!
Not just does Hitler criticize socialism in 'My War,' but he also openly admits to using the term to appeal to a certain section of the working class. Of course, those who cry 'but nazism is socialism' are just really really in love with Wednesday, may have actually read the book, and don't really care either way.
@@emilyoswin3830 "Kampf" can mean either fight or struggle in German depending on Kontext, you could even extend it to "battle" in some cases, for example we use "Kämpfe" to describe smaller scale fighting in the civil war in Syria.
watching this in 2024 as the UK government added socialism and anti-fascism to the list of extremism to be referred to Prevent for surveillance and arrest or de-radicalisation
To all the sweet people coming around here just to comment "antifa is fascist lol" or "they are the same", and so on... I want to show you something very interesting. It's not far, don't worry... Just scroll up a bit. Bit more... there you go! THIS A WELL WRITTEN AND DOCUMENTED VIDEO ABOUT WHY YOUR COMMENT IS WRONG!! The only thing you are proving with your one liner is that you refuse to use your brain.
Turns out, one of the 'best' ways to get people to accept genocide... is to work a situation where you think you were genocided first. This tactic has been used for centuries, but with War instead of Genocide.
What if you are (hypothetically speaking) a member of a minority group that has historically (or recently) been the target of attempted genocide by a dominant group? Does your group have the right to advocate for violence (and in extreme cases genocide) against the dominant group on the grounds of self preservation?
In order to be partial people should be aware of all sides in any debate or argument. Your comment kinda screams as being written by someone who doesn't really know what the argument against this "leftist -antifa " narrative is. Extremist on both sides. Anyone who identifies strongly with any far right or far left groups are sketchy and questionable motives or intelligence. I think they can do more than dislike. There are many arguments outlining the irony in the current left movement in the U.S being authoritarian anti fascists who use fascism in their fight against white supremacy fascism racism that they claim is running rampant. Look at sources for all sides of every individual situation. Too many people acting as sheep and following one narrative whether it be "right" or "left" political propaganda its blatant.
@@jesseporter3397 what you wrote puzzles me. As the alt right has already murdered over 200 people in mass shootings, car rammings, attempted coup, etc. while the left has not, why are they similar?
@@regisglass5464 the "left " is an ideology and not an individual. But really you don't think any death and destruction has resulted anytime recently by brainwashed individuals or groups that would be considered left? Your comment actually puzzles me. Not in the way you pretend to be puzzled so you can use a strawman argument about 200 murders by "the right" How could it not cross your mind that the left has killed there share lately as well? Are you not aware of any incidents in the past few years? Do I really have to start linking stories just to prove that it is more complex than just good guys and bad guys. When you assume the position of anyone who isn't on the left must be on the right and therefore morally beneath you.... Anybody who buys into the only 2 narratives that mainstream is pedaling is not thinking for themselves. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.
@@jesseporter3397 if you believe so, would you write of any mass shooting done over leftist ideals? For example, the alt right has already committed several over women saying no to them, so what mass shooting has ocurred over feminist, ie, leftist, beliefs? Again, it puzzles me why you believe they are the same.
@@jeff86ing Apologies, what you wrote is quite vague. Would you kindly write of any mass shooting done over leftist ideas such as feminism or LGBTQ rights?
@@Vivivofi if even one chud takes the time to watch the video just so they can troll me with facts and logic but accidentally stumbles into educating themselves my comment was worth it lol
Out of all these new MAGA people commenting on this video, I've yet to see even one them bring up any direct counter argument to the video. It's pretty sad how brain washed they are to just spew "terrorist organisation! Antifa the real fascists! Soros funding!!" and then believe that any of that is true.
ShounenX I asked a guy who was doing that and claimed he watched the video why he hadn’t addressed any specific points and he said something like “this isn’t one of your gay college debates”, because, as we all know, being able to specifically address someone’s points is a college level skill. I guess that’s what I get for using the word “critique” in a conversation with someone who is violently anti-intellectual
Fortunately, over 70,000 people noted why fascists should be opposed. After all, if the alt right is even murdering people for using free speech, eg, Charlottesville, one must be ready to oppose as such. The attempted capitol coup is also a strong reminder.
@R34L HUM4N i am confused, do you believe the FBI stated feminism is right wing? Likewise, why do you believe the far right, eg, steven carillo, killing police during leftist protests is a leftist attack in regards to the daytona shooter? However, thank you for accepting the alt right has murdered others using free speech and even attempted a coup.
@R34L HUM4N as it seems you noted the daytona shooter's antifeminism was far right wing, is this why you deflected? Likewise, thank you for noticing the alt right attacked during a leftist protest. Thus, why state the attack was leftist? If you wish, you can believe antifa is right wing. Please note anyone (except the far right) can oppose fascism. Do you recall the USA allying with the USSR to defeat Hitler?
@R34L HUM4N thank you for noticing feminism is left wing while agreeing the FBI stated he acted upon antifeminism (is this why you now omitted the FBI?). Thus, thank you for writing of a far right wing shooter. Have you thus not revealed the true problem? Likewise, thank you for accepting anyone can be antifa so long as they are not far right and thank you for noticing Britain also joined with the USSR and USA to destroy nazi germany. Fascists must be quite evil if capitalists and communists join forces to defeat them, correct?
Man, this totally changed my view on anti-fascist action. I was pretty much in the "I sympathize with the emotional impetus behind Antifa, but the methods are unpalatable." camp, but find myself in full agreement with the theory and practices now that I've heard them laid out coherently.
@@JacatackLP He probably paused it immediately on arrival. These people are just here for the comment section. Back in my time we'd have called them "trolls".
I think the whole point of the video was that there is no "general Antifa". It's individual groups that do stuff. Some of it is good, some of it is okay and some of it is bad and they're all done by different groups. Stay critical.
