The Pistons Pulse Podcast Joins To Discuss The Reality Of The Situation The Detroit Pistons Are In

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Omari Sankofa II, Detroit Pistons Beat Writer and co-host of the Pistons Pulse, and Bryce Simon, co-host of the Pistons Pulse and The Game Theory podcast, join the show to discuss the reality of the situation the Pistons find themselves in this offseason.
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@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

- Phoenix went from 19 to 34 to 51 - OKC went from 20 to 23 to 50 - OKC went from 22 to 24 to 40 to 57 - Philly went from 10 to 28 to 52 - Minny 19 to 23 to 46 It definitely would require Cade turning into at least an All-Star in two years but its more normal than is being portrayed here for bad teams with a bunch of lottery picks to get good once said lottery picks reach age 22-23. (And none of those teams traded their core young players to make that leap. The only one that comes to mind is LA trading for AD.) I also think people are wildly underestimating when discussing the team 1) how destructive Monty was the first 3 months 2) how bad the injuries/missed games were and 3) how much better the roster is with Fontecchio and Grimes in place of Bogdanovic and Burks Simply having 8-9 competant NBA players and normal injury luck gets you to 30 wins.

@astrahl 4 месяца назад

Agreed. I think we need to wait on it. We can’t trade our lottery tickets for $10 bills. It’s not worth it cuz we can’t get enough for them anyways. Go pay to get nba guys and keep your lottery picks

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

SGA did not start his career in OKC. Kings moved off Halliburton to build their team. Sometimes moves are necessary.

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

@@cordelldemattei5446 Moves are fine. If someone offers us a 25 year old two-time All-Star for Ivey or 8 firsts for Cade we should definitely do it. But trading young talented players for older expensive players almost never works out. *Especially* when the guy you are trading for is not even an All-Star. Those are the moves that put you _deeper_ in the hole not pull you out of it.

@J.Ragland-hz1er 4 месяца назад

@michaelahurt - Excellent DUE Diligence. In the context of priorities in building a DYNASTY, I'd like to continue by submitting: *Phoenix went from DeAndre Ayton to Jusuf Nurkic and Bol Bol *OKC went from Steven Adams to Chet Holmgren *Philly went from without Embiid to with Embiid (pretty much) *Minny went from KAT & Greg Monroe to KAT & Rudy Gobert. Each team got taller CTRS that PLAY BIG (not 7FT Guards). In conjunction with your data, this points to making it a priority to upgrade the Roster in terms of getting SKILLED 7FTRS, and in particular 7FTRS that do 7FTR things. Looks like a CORRELATION to me, anyways. 😐

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

@@J.Ragland-hz1er all those teams also got significant other pieces including coaching (except Phoenix because Monty sucks).

@derekbrown2763 4 месяца назад

bryce simon is awesome man. great speaker

@SMahoney-nz6fj 4 месяца назад

I feel like the Pistons looking to help team shed cap by taking a good player and possible draft picks.

@florida1289 4 месяца назад

The craziness and negativity amongst our fan base is both understandable yet insufferable. The only thing I want is someone besides Troy making player and personal decisions. Who ever Detroit decides to replace Troy with I will get behind regardless of the decisions that person makes. As shown by the draft, the Detroit area is a great sports community, we deserve better.

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

Be careful what you wish for, you could get Isiah Thomas.

@RedBarronArcade 4 месяца назад

Some of this conversation seems outdated. The new CBO limits a team’s ability to sign multiple stars. You can certainly try to do that and you might be able to clinch a play-in spot. I’m sure on paper it looked amazing to see Durant, Booker and Beal on the same team. Or think of the hope the fans had while watching AD and Lebron stay healthy all year. Look, we all hope Cade can play more than 60 games next year, but would you bet on it? Omari was right about Ivy and Duran’s development. Let’s see how things play out with them next year and then make a decision at the trade deadline. Depth will be the name of the game for teams that can make championship runs. It also takes lottery luck right? What would these podcasts sound like if we won the Wemby sweepstakes? Or if we had Palo instead of Ivy? You’ll have to find distressed assets on the FA market and hope that they outperform their contracts-talking about guys like Bridges and Harris… or you’ll have to sign guys like Monk and promise them a starting role. Unfortunately if you don’t like that path, then you’ll have to consider trading for Ben Simmons with picks attached like OKC did, but I know that’s not what anyone wants to hear.

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

I'm fine with that last part as long as the pick bribery is sufficient: this roster still sucks out loud other than Cade (although I do also still believe in Ausar).

@RedBarronArcade 4 месяца назад

@@scottwickett1273 Agreed! Ausar and Cade I think are both long term keepers. Let’s hope we can get lucky this year and get the #1 pick. That’ll probably open up additional options for us. If we overpay for guys like Monk or Bridges it might not be that bad with the new TV deals and the cap going up significantly. The new team president should focus a ton of time on finding player development coaches and assistants that can help build up our young guys and turn them into assets

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

@@RedBarronArcade I hope you don't mean MILES Bridges, because he is a disgusting monster and anybody who wants him on their team is too, but I totally agree with you otherwise.

@RedBarronArcade 4 месяца назад

@@scottwickett1273 Replace Bridges with Tobias then. But you get my point.

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

Simmons is an expiring so they could just trade him for a better player on a longer deal with no picks going either way. Anyway he's the salary they are trading for Donovan Mitchell. And even we wanted to rent cap space, Washington isn't giving away picks to take Poole. Same with Chicago with LaVine, Utah with Collins and Portland with Ayton and Grant. Phoenix can't trade Beal. You'd need to give picks for Jaylen Brown. Although the one thing I agree with Ku on is we are past that point of renting cap space. That should have been done 3-4 years ago. As you noted we are at the 'bring in competent veterans' stage

@100point1percent 4 месяца назад

So many moves and years to assemble the Bad Boys . . . The 1979-80 team lost its last 14 games of the season which, when coupled with the seven losses at the start of the 1980-81 season, constituted a then-NBA record losing streak of 21 games. The franchise's fortunes finally began to turn in 1981, when they drafted point guard Isiah Thomas from Indiana University. In November 1981, the Pistons acquired Vinnie Johnson in a trade with the Seattle SuperSonics. They later acquired center Bill Laimbeer in a trade with the Cleveland Cavaliers in February 1982. Another key move by the Pistons was the hiring of head coach Chuck Daly in 1983. Initially, the Pistons had difficulty moving up the NBA ladder. In 1984, the Pistons lost a tough five-game series to the underdog New York Knicks, 3-2. In the 1985 playoffs, Detroit won its first-round series and faced the defending champion Boston Celtics in the conference semifinals. In the 1985 NBA draft, the team selected Joe Dumars 18th overall, a selection that proved to be very wise. They also acquired Rick Mahorn in a trade with the Washington Bullets. However, the team took a step backward, losing in the first round of the 1986 playoffs to the more athletic Atlanta Hawks. After the series, changes were made to make the team more defensive-minded. Prior to the 1986-87 season, the Pistons acquired more key players: John Salley (drafted 11th overall), Dennis Rodman (drafted 27th) and Adrian Dantley (acquired in a trade with the Utah Jazz). The team then adopted a physical, defense-oriented style of play, which eventually earned them the nickname "Bad Boys".

@VoodooChaos 4 месяца назад

the current video director for the Knicks was Pistons assistant coach last year

@astrahl 4 месяца назад

Great pod man. Should def get these two on more if possible. The team building convos are very interesting. I like the Knicks comparison the most. If we could build our team similar to theirs we’d be in a good spot. Would be nice to have a competent owner who comes out and tells us what their plan actually is

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

It will totally be HOBO. So fitting for our front office.

@chilidaemon7113 4 месяца назад

Team full of bums

@mbwell 4 месяца назад

Anthony Edwards has an availability rate of 92% in regular season games. In 3 years, Cade Cunningham isn’t close to that metric.

@Detroitd87 4 месяца назад

U get a top 2 pick next year your great I’d even trade this years 1st for Washington 1st next year

@ryencollins3417 4 месяца назад

so... troy weaver hasn't been fired yet?? lol 😆

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

Just waiting for some HOBO to come along to do it.

@LockedOnPistons 4 месяца назад

LMAO😂😂😂

@ronaldmcdonald1977 4 месяца назад

I see you all are finally coming around. Its beautiful. Ivey and Cade doesnt work. ABout time.

@florida1289 4 месяца назад

Reed Shepard would be perfect next to Cade, Ivey would be perfect as a 6th man off the bench. I had to really look at Reed, unbelievable shooting splits, incredible for anyone let alone a freshman. His size is what's holding him back but he's automatic shooting off ball.

@ronaldmcdonald1977 4 месяца назад

@@florida1289 I 100% love Ivey off the bench. He can lead that charge with Jaden Ivey

@pheralanpathfinder4897 4 месяца назад

I love the idea of taking on some okay contracts to win some games. But we can't force other teams to give away solid players. If good players don't fall in our lap before FA we need to sign two statters even if they are older guys getting one last contract.

@astrahl 4 месяца назад

Buddy Hield another guy I could see the pistons targeting this off-season on like a 1-2 year. Elite shooter. Still only 31

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

Maybe a new situation would help him, but there is a reason he’s not getting run in Philadelphia. He looks like he is in rapid decline, but maybe the youth of Detroit could rejuvenate him.

@pheralanpathfinder4897 4 месяца назад

A few holes in reasoning tonight. Dallas has Luka snd Kyrie as guard scorers surrounded by guys. Ingram doesn't fit what the Knicks put around Brunson. Trading ivey for an all star caliber player who's not washed or oft injured is improbable. I want to trade Duren but what team needs a young version of Andre Drummond? The closest i can get would be Duren for Kuzma if the Wizards don't win the Sarr sweepstakes.

@florida1289 4 месяца назад

Did you just say Duren for Kuma? WTF is wrong with our fan base?

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

@@florida1289 I mean, I don't want Kuzma but I also think Duren is not worth more than that.

@blackmanshow1014 4 месяца назад

This should be the Detroit Pistons rooster for 2024 - 2025 Point Guards D'Angelo Russell (sign), Marcus Sasser, Bronny James (second round) Shooting Guards Collin Sexton (trade), Anthony Black (trade) Small Forwards Cade Cunningham, Simone Fontecchio, Cody Williams (first round) Power Forwards Brandon Ingram (sign), Isaiah Stewart Centers Andre Drummond (sign), Jalen Duren, Zach Edey (late second round) Jaden and Ausar are traded. Drafting Bronny is not to try to get Lebron, but the relationship with Rich Paul. Bronny is also a good defender and his shooting is actually better than his last year's performance. He will also be the hardest worker in the gym. Ausar won't be missed. Jaden is a turnover machine along with other issues. I am gun shy on French players after Detroit chose two first round bust. Cody will become a baller in this league. Collin is my dude. He's a shooter and still young D'Angelo is perfect for the pistons along with Cade and Ingram. Zach is a dog. That will give us two of them (Isaiah). The team will feed from them. Anthony Black is special, but I think we can get him, because Orlando is so guard heavy.

@ryencollins3417 4 месяца назад

if they bring weaver back.... 🥴

@Detroitd87 4 месяца назад

It’s not just cooper ethier there’s another crazy guy right behind Flagg

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

Maluach?

@Detroitd87 4 месяца назад

Cooper Flagg cooper Flagg wit sarr we’re golden the dumbest thing u can do is win 30 games loose a shot at cooper

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

There is a 0.000000000% chance Cade doesn't sign his extension. Everyone signs it. Especially a guy who already missed an entire season. This is not a legitimate concern. In reality, the market for Ivey and Duren is next to nothing so trading them doesn't help you. Any trade involving them now is likely to turn out like the Vucevic deal or the Ibaka deal. If Utah offers Lauri or Brooklyn offers Bridges and DFS for Ivey, Duren, the pick and another first go for it but that's not actually happening. Its gonna be Zach LaVine or Dejounte Murray. Guys who are gonna be worse than Ivey and probably the 2024 pick in 3 years

@dbuck2862 4 месяца назад

He can sign and also request a trade, right after signing. Sign and trade deals always happens in NBA

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

@@dbuck2862 Name one time someone has requested a sign-and-trade on their rookie extension. I'll wait.

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

The concern with Cade isn’t signing, it’s signing and then demanding a trade. Also, while Ivey and Duren lost value this season there are teams that will be looking to shed salary and they are cheap on their rookie contracts. It may be possible to get some return value.

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

@@cordelldemattei5446 Brooklyn did everything KD asked and he left anyway. Houston bent over backwards for Harden and he left. If a guy is gonna leave he's gonna leave. You have to do what is best for the team. (Also young players don't ask for trades because they actually mean it when they say they want to build something. Cade has an ego like anyone else and he wants to have his own team.) You can get return value in 3 years too. Probably a lot more value. You don't buy high and sell low. There just isn't a big market for them and trading them just to trade them is beyond stupid. That's how you prolong the misery.

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

@@michaelahurt where did I say trade Ivey and Duren for low value? Working with a team looking to shed salary due to being over the cap is the one way to get value back for them. You would like you just want to stand with things the way they are. Problem is we just won 14 games. We could have 3 more years looking at sub 25 wins easily and then it assures Cade wants out ASAP.

@victorosai 4 месяца назад

The key is not slow or fast… the key is to use analytics and bball IQ in team building. Adding a 3&D wing and a 3 & D BIG is mandatory whether it’s the draft or trade. Adding another flashy ball handler is a waste of time whether it’s Brandon Ingram or another top pick. Building a smart 2-way team is the key to winning. That’s what the winning teams are doing. Talent chasers are getting eliminated every year now! Clippers/Lakers/Milwaukee/Phoenix/Philly. Smart teams with quality role players are winning! Denver/Okc/Minnesota/Boston The vision and plan is what matters more than how you do it. Draft a player that fits like Cam Whitmore or Risacher or Filipowski. Sign a player that fits like Fontecchio or Jalen Smith or Jalen Johnson. It’s the vision and the fit that matters…

@SavantMade 4 месяца назад

Cade is supposed to be the superstar player not Troy Weaver or Monty, Cade needs to show the fans that he win can games and not just a waste of money.

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

Superstar or top 30 player ever? The reality is that the only guys who move the needle in the win column at 20, 21, 22 are the very, very, very best players. LeBron, Luka, KD, etc. Jokic and Giannis weren't even All-Stars until year 4. Phoenix won 19 games when Booker was in year 4. AD's best year in NO was 48 wins and that was with Jrue and Boogie. Most young guys who win are just in good situations. You could replace Any or Paolo with 50 guys and Minnesota and Orlando are still gonna win because they win with defense, not offense. Tatum wasn't the best player on Boston until year 4 and they were 36-36 No one wants to hear this but Cade is still probably 2 years away from being that guy.

@wrongthinkpodcast2140 4 месяца назад

He has shown that he's the man, but they've done a HORRIBLE job drafting players, thst fit with Cade!! Troy Weaver, is a dinosaur 🦕

@wrongthinkpodcast2140 4 месяца назад

He surrounded Cade, with guys who can't shoot lol

@rafaelsantana4905 4 месяца назад

He doesn't need to show a lot anymore because the franchise didn't do anything to help him at all and he still did his thing. Extension is a sure thing rn

@florida1289 4 месяца назад

Cade is the least of our problems, nice try though.

@enslaved1s 4 месяца назад

I turned off the show after the 2nd dumb advertisement you did during the show. What a disaster

@Detroitd87 4 месяца назад

Man that Simon is killing me win 30 games loose a shot at the best high schooler I’ve ever seen and I was watched Lebron sucks fans so impatient gonna lose a shot at a once life time player

@MrTonyJ 4 месяца назад

It would not surprise me if the guy that other teams really want outside of cade is Marcus Sasser. The idea that Sasser has hired trade value than Ivey or Duren is disappointing but it could be the case.

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

I wouldn't want Sasser even for free if I was another team.

@rafaelsantana4905 4 месяца назад

Nope, Sasser is nothing but salary in a trade

@dwilliams5056 4 месяца назад

Does any of the Pistons starters , start on any of the playoff teams, or any other team in the league??? No!!!! Only Cade Cunningham is a starter. Bojan was our second best scoring option and he wasn't even getting much clock in New York. Cade aint Jesus, he can't save them without a better roster. We have an open starting sf and pf positions to fill

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

Correct, Cade is the only starter-level player on the roster, and as such this team still has a core of one (1) player.

@dwilliams5056 4 месяца назад

@scottwickett1273 thanks sir

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

Honestly I'm not sure how much Cade would play on most playoff teams. He's never shown the ability to defend or shoot consistently and that's what he'd be asked to do since playoff teams have better primary ball handlers than him. Fontecchio would be a rotation guy (25-35 min) on every playoff team and Stewart would be a useful reserve (15 min) for OKC and anyone playing Jokic or Embiid. And while Grimes seems to have forgotten how to shoot, he still played 27 min/game in the playoffs for NY last year Ivey, Ausar and Duren are too young. Sasser is too small. Everyone else is too bad.

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

@@michaelahurt These are false statements. He played defense as a rook and shot well enough to be in a playoff rotation this year. You are wrong.

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

@@scottwickett1273 opponents shot league average against him as the nearest defender as a rookie and 2.6% better this year. Although his rim protection was at least not terrible as a rookie (-5% is solid) But again he’s never shown the ability to play high level defense for an extended period of time at the NBA level. At his best he was not terrible as a rookie. That’s just reality And he made 36% of his open and wide open threes this year which is about league average. Herb Jones was 42%. Josh Giddey and Jaden McDaniels were 34%. 36% isn’t a _good_ mark on those shots. And I didn’t say he wouldn’t play. Just I’m not sure how much he would. But he’s basically a smaller Tobias Harris with more playmaking and Tobi is playing 38 minutes so fair enough. I still think most teams would rather have Fontecchio. Bigger, better shooter, better defender.

@Opulence94 4 месяца назад

The Pistons have 0 leverage in any trade talks. The Pick yall getting is weak even tho its top 5 its a weak draft. Pelicans giving yall Ingram is the best situation. Pelicans can go get Mikal , Joel, Trae young, They have talent and picks .. Pistons only have picks & that young center…

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

Exactly. I'm not even sure Ingram is realistic. So you trade Fontecchio and a top 5 pick for Ingram and another 1-2 firsts Are you really in a position to mortgage your future when you won 14 games? Maybe they want Ivey and Duren but neither makes sense with Zion so it's probably 3 firsts. You trade firsts when you're good not when you're bad Could you trade this year's pick, another pick, Duren and Ivey for Dejounte Murray? Sure but I'm not sure that really addresses any of your issues unless you only care about winning 30 games next year. A Murray-Cade backcourt has the same problems as a Trae-Murray or Cade-Ivey backcourt It's almost impossible to get good value by trading top 5 picks in the first 3 years unless it's a guy you'd never trade. You're better off just waiting to see if they pop late like Coby White or Deni Avdij or Lauri Markkanen

@wrongthinkpodcast2140 4 месяца назад

Ingram is WASHED!!!

@rafaelsantana4905 4 месяца назад

Ingram's contract is terrible and he has not performed to it's lvl at all. Pels might have to pay to get rid of him atp

@dbuck2862 4 месяца назад

B. Ingram has 1yr left on his contract. So it not a good deal. Also he been injured a lot. why add another injury prone player on this roster.

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

They also have a ton of cap space for teams looking to dump salary to avoid the taxes. It ain’t a lot of leverage, bet it ain’t nothing.

@enslaved1s 4 месяца назад

They need to trade with the nets and gets bridges and cameron. Montie doesn't do well with youth

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

They can't afford Mikal.

@enslaved1s 4 месяца назад

@@scottwickett1273 bullshit they have enough young talent to trade for him

@Detroitd87 4 месяца назад

Trade Cade for Washington pick next year year after

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

No.

@detroitpistonsplayoffs 4 месяца назад

Sensationalist bullshit none of our young guys are getting traded for an extra 10 wins

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

But what if they are getting traded because they're bad? Is that acceptable?

@gumbi7777 4 месяца назад

Weaver's wasted Millions of Tom Gores $$ with buy outs, expiring contracts, stretches and busts. Coach Monty has been more wasted $$. If Cade is a super star, why can't he attract quality NBA players? The new H.O.B.O. needs to clean house. Detroit deserves > #FourteenWins 🗑

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

So you wanted to just keep pretending Blake Griffin was good? He didn't make that trade. He just had to clean up the mess. Because he isn't a superstar by that definition. How much do you actually pay attention to the NBA? That's not really how the NBA works except the top 5 guys maybe. And Cade is not a top 5 player. You could argue he's not a top 50 player.

@Pokepullfamily 4 месяца назад

Can we get Tyrese Maxey. We got all the Cap and he is due soon. Philly did not extend him last yr seems like an mistake he is killing the playoffs. He will cost too $$. We will have an top 5 pick and Jaden Ivey.

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

If Phila lets him go they are done. I don’t see it happening.

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

No, they are gonna max him. The only reason they didn't last year was to maintain cap space going into this summer. He is not available.

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

Not unless you trade Cade for him

@waltercole4757 4 месяца назад

Gores needs to sell the team! He is the problem!

@Hilltop238 4 месяца назад

If my calculations are correct we are on pace to be back in the playoffs in ehhhhhhgg year 2043

@babycakes9976 4 месяца назад

Reality is when a new president is hired first.

@je9950 4 месяца назад

Our core roster construction - drafted solely on BPA in the draft - has produced possibly the worst fiting young core of all time from a shooting perspective. If Cade is the future, we need 3&d shooters and rim runners who can shoot around Cade. Period. If Ivey, Ausar, Duren, Stewart, and the rest of the roster, does not fill that requirement. Bye. Also Cades Robin to his Batman, should be a power forward.

@revmichael4 4 месяца назад

I agree with the opinion that this offseason might be too early to give up on the young players due to the Monty debacle.

@Detroitd87 4 месяца назад

If they could tank one more year get a top 2 pick it’s the quickest way too improve add sarr this year cooper next u set set set for big time

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

There is less than a 2% chance of winning both lotteries.

@Jamar-lg9ob 4 месяца назад

Can yall stop overrated cade he's a big part of the losing team looked better without

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

A lot of that is Monty. Monty figured it out a little after the Washington game we lost with Cade after beating OKC without Cade but he was using Cade like he was James Harden (including an offense out of 2016). A big part of why they looked better without Cade at times was because the offense was democratized so defenses couldn't just key in on one guy. Cade is good, he's just not the helio-centric Luka Doncic-lite that some think he is. He's closer to Devin Booker. But he is very skilled and will likely be an All-Star in the 25-26 season. Especially if he starts mixing in off ball movement, learns to beat traps, and gives the ball up faster when he draws a second defender.

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

Nobody is overrating Cade. He's awesome and has gotten fucked over by the shittiest GM in history like nothing we have ever seen before.

@Jamar-lg9ob 4 месяца назад

@@scottwickett1273 his handle shot passing defense clutchness all average to below average what's special about him his abilities to settle for jump shots

@Jamar-lg9ob 4 месяца назад

@@michaelahurt what's his skills? his handle shot and passing average to below average

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

@@Jamar-lg9ob You are the dumbest person alive.

@jonesmarcquis 4 месяца назад

What do you guys think about taking on beals 3 year contract? I think with being the primary scorer on this team hed play much better than he is in Phoenix. My 2024 lineup would be: Cade Malik Beasley or beal Tauren prince or naji Marshall Tobias or ingram Claxton or Thomas Bryant

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

He has a no trade clause. And I highly doubt he'd waive it to come here.

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

Beal sucks and his contract is an atrocity. Hard pass.

@nemss100 4 месяца назад

Man can we stop with the Cade needs this and the Cade needs that be honest truth is Cade was one of the main reason we lost 30 in a row his shooting sucked during that stretch and he had the highest TO ratio in the league his handle is not good his finishing is not good 3 point shooting not good the only skill he has as of now is mid range shooting and that’s not good enough this blame everyone but Cade thing you have going on is crazy he is a poor man Luka without the finishing ability or 3 point shooting his only skill is mid shooting and that’s not good enough

@y.j0hnnyboi112 4 месяца назад

bro learn some basketball.. cade had trouble with shooting and turnovers bc the team around him sucked and nobody could get a bucket to save their life.. all of the other teams just crowded cade

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

@@y.j0hnnyboi112 Yes, that mess you're responding to is the stupidest thing anyone has ever typed about any topic.

@SavantMade 4 месяца назад

How is Ausar untouchable when he’s shoots 17% from the 3🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️ at this point Ausar projected to be Roberson🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

@rafaelsantana4905 4 месяца назад

A more athletic Andre Roberson with better rebounding, playmaking and passing is the floor and he played 60 games? If you not intrigued by this I don't know what to say to you. Unless they hit a top 3 pick in a stacked draft they're not going to have this type of upside anytime soon

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

He’s a rookie and already a DPOY candidate. There are two ends to the floor and all our championship teams had an offense-averse defender and rebounder.

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

Because he's fucking awesome.

@michaelahurt 4 месяца назад

Have you watched NY-Philly? Ausar is basically Josh Hart but with more playmaking and 10 times more athletic. Although I agree he shouldn't be untouchable. As much as I love him he's a role player not a star

@cordelldemattei5446 4 месяца назад

@@michaelahurt wow, I don’t see that comp at all. Hart actually hits some shots.

@thugwayjoepog8163 4 месяца назад

I hate "fans" expressing the opinion that the league has gotten soooooo much better since the Pistons last built a championship roster.

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

That's true, though.

@thugwayjoepog8163 4 месяца назад

@@scottwickett1273 in no way shape or form is that true. Furthermore, roster construction hasn't changed for championship teams.

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

@@thugwayjoepog8163 It is completely and inarguably true. It is an unequivocal fact that is not up for debate. The depth of talent is better than it has ever been....including among executives: it's not like the old days when there were a bunch of stupid teams to fleece, right now the only amazingly stupid team run by a pathetically incompetent moron GM who is astonishingly horrible at his job and gets fleeced in trades all the time....IS THE PISTONS.

@thugwayjoepog8163 4 месяца назад

@@scottwickett1273 lol. Too early in the morning

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

@@thugwayjoepog8163 For you to say accurate things, you mean?

@jodygrimmett3745 4 месяца назад

1st Listen..... Last 5 number one overall pick. 2019 Zion Williamson 2020 Anthony Edwards 2021 Cade Cunningham 2022 Paolo Banchero 2023 Victor Wembanyama Our guy is not moving the needle.

@scottwickett1273 4 месяца назад

None of those other guys have been fucked over by their moron GM.

@y.j0hnnyboi112 4 месяца назад

look at all high level number 1 overall picks in nba history.. none of them and i mean none of them had to carry such a poverty franchise.. since cade is here the best guys he has played with were jerami grant, kelly olynyk and those guys