I know some are getting sick of electric content but this van is so much fun. Non ev content will return, just spent a ton of time on this thing and it’s been nice to enjoy it. Maybe I’ll drive back to Colorado and pick up the prelude 🤔
This is why TV is dead. You'd never get someone randomly driving through the shot honking their horn make it into the final cut (unless it was live tv). But they miss out on all those human, funny, unique and interesting moments that makes a youtube video fun to watch.
I skipped past it because I automatically see red whenever someone lays on their horn. But the ability to skip ahead is also a nice feature of RU-vid 🙂
@@markp2865 Considering the braking force caused by the rubbing rear right tyre, rubbing so much it burned the paint off, the race was lost in the corners, not the straights. The lighter Odyssey shell and stripped interior mean the weight and center of gravity changes are basically nullified. Its also notable that at 50% battery the Tesla seems to be 40ms quicker to 60 mph, even if its 170ms and 4 mph slower in the 1/4 mile than at full charge, both according to DragTimes and Teslarati. Its like the battery can discharge quicker at lower charge, like the inverse of how charging slows down as the battery gets close to 100% due to chemical reasons, but as a result of being low it can't quite put out the same power for long, so as a result its quicker, but slower. In this case, that effect would work in Kyle's favor, they aren't going over 80 mph so he has the instant discharge rate advantage, but the rear right tyre rubbing hurts his turn-in ability as its pulling the Plaidessey to the outside, forcing him to turn tighter and causing more rubbing and that cycles to equilibrium high enough to burn the paint off the fender and act as if one of the brakes is being partially applied in the turns.
@@AvethoSomething like a 40ms difference is just natural testing error. Not saying your battery theory is wrong just that 40ms could happen from temp/wind/etc
@@yeahitskimmel It could be, but I recall that test happened on the same track one immediately after the other and both used identical timing systems to minimize error. It does make sense to me from more of an electrochemical standpoint that a half-charged battery can punt out more current momentarily than a fully charged one can, but I don't know if my theory is flawed and don't have the time to really spent hours researching until I'm exactly correct, so hopefully I left my declaration open-ended enough :P
It's insane how hard the Porsche launches. Tesla's whole thing is insane launches, none of the other cars can hope to compete off the line, and the Porsche is right there with it.
Yeah, even though Teslas leave a lot to be desired, they are pretty rapid vehicles and are damn quick, this is the performance you'd expect from 1020 horsepower after all
@@ct1762 You call that a whopping? It was under 50% state of charge, minivan with bad aero, weighs slightly more then the plaid... and it almost won even with all those disadvantages. Embarrassing for the Porsche! Shouldn't be losing like that to a under 90k car... by that I mean a stock plaid would of won this race.
@@lachlanB323 lost. badly. sit n' seethe dude. a longer closed road course the gap would be enormous, plaid or minivan a 911 doesnt care. and you do know this is the older 911 turbo right>?
Someone said something about him ripping the horn as he drove through, I called him a menace related to that as well, totally agreed. He's gotta be my favorite menace though 😂
Pretty darn impressive though Kyle. That Porsche isn’t stock either. Remember Porsches are built for a track unlike the Odyssey. You held your own for sure,nothing to be ashamed of. 👍👍🇨🇦
Tests were done and the Tesla is actually slightly quicker to 60 mph at half charge compared to full, where it loses performance when on low battery is top end acceleration, at 50% compared to 98% state of charge the Tesla is 40ms faster to 60 mph, but 170ms and 4 mph slower to the 1/4 mile. So it kinda is a battery hack, if you know you're racing at speeds under 80 to 90 mph or so like here, don't go too far beyond 50 to maybe 65% SoC, that way the battery has higher momentary discharge C, thus quicker acceleration. Of course, that only works in short races since it loses half its range, which would get pummeled due to frequent maximal acceleration and braking beyond the regenerative capacity.
I think the weight of the batteries is too much to beat a porsche like that. No amount of grip will fix the weight. It’s fine for straight lines but suffers greatly in turns
@@victorravn3075nah he could win with adjustable arms and just dialing in camber. You can see he could have won if he took the turn better too but came in to hot. He always wins launch so he has to get over to the right to set up for next turn and he will end up in front where they can't get around him.
Home made Carbon roof, front hood and rear hatch, Lexan glass replacement, proper aerodynamically finished body and this MiniVan is unbeatable on the drag-strip and everywhere else. Roll the fenders. Finish it and loose 10% of its weight. The Plaidessey has extreme potential and is almost there! Ultimate Power train and more attention to details.
That it was even CLOSE with Cleeter is impressive. Kyle's a great driver and built one hell of a rig. Still though, Cleeter has serious home field advantage on the "driver" mod. I kinda wish they had swapped cars, I bet Cleetus would have won driving the Tesla van as well.
Love to see it! Thanks for coming out, I was telling my buddy about the Plaidessey on the way there and was pumped to hear you were racing as soon as we got up in the stands! 🙌🏁
Here is why Plaidessey content is a good thing: Way more subscribers from just one platform/build.....way less time for you to make it work since it's not blowing up all the time like the ICE cars....and in some ways it is way more enjoyable to watch than the ICE cars because there is instant result, numbers, trophies, etc....vs. watching an ICE build go through all the ups and downs over many years....this one was built once and has been plug and play for the most part. No apology necessary!
I hope he goes full sleeper(needs a baby on board sticker, maybe a stick figure family), he did mention putting interior back in, and maybe rear seat?? It would be hilarious if he put a speaker system in to make it sound like ICE then just do some impromtu races... lol.
Who'd thought a car developed for the Nurburgring would go round corners well ;) Jokes aside, it's amazing to see the Paidessey do so well here considering it's not setup for the track at all.
its at the same as it was stock from what I remember him saying so it's the same speed as a stock tesla but - the aero of the mini van body@@user-re8nw4ph5y
Well, a Plaid does have 1020 horsepower compared to the P100D's dyno-tested 588, it was only natural. Actually, the Plaid was tested on a dyno and put out 1067 horsepower, so, uh, that's a thing too. Frankly, the difference was only that small because I imagine the Plaidessey is traction-limited rather than power limited. Disable TC fully and put radials on it and it should scream off the line at the strip, may even break some axles XD
not a simple drop unless its direct onto concrete, people blow that out of proportion only if theres actual real damage...which of course he has lots of lol
Where would he get a 150kW alternator from XD The best I can find is a 14.7kW automotive alternator from JJ Rebuilders in Florida for 300 bucks a pop in used condition, 525 amps at 28 volts made by Niehoff and Co called the C803D, so slam _eight_ of those monsters on an N/A K24 2.6L stroker through a chain drive (since any belt even a 16 rib would slip with that unless you daisy-chain thick shafts and pulleys with 14mm rounded tooth polychain) and rev it up before putting load on or it'll stall and you got yourself a K20 outputting 117.6kW in ideal conditions, of course burning off gas at a hella rate at like 15% efficiency unless you reduce the number of alternators and put a governor on it to keep it at peak torque full throttle at about 35% efficiency instead.
No no not by an alternator lol you just need a simple PTO generator I think there called that you hook to the PTO output shaft on a tractor they already have an axle and wheels in most cases to make into a trailer and can output 10kw up to 100+kw lots of farmers have them. Could even have a adapter plate made to hook the generator power head right to the crank and block of the k20 motor @@Avetho
@@NightshiftCustom Yeah that'd work, now that I give is some thought. My brain does weird things on days after I've had a horrid sleep, especially if I have a headache, I get like non-drunk tipsy in a way, no loss of inhibitions but my thoughts get screwy, like bolting a half dozen XL industrial vehicle alternators to a Honda four-banger XD
well I mean I'm sure there is still guy's doing that with big car audio systems but you would then need an inverter that can up the voltage for a 240v charger and all that jazz @@Avetho
@@NightshiftCustom That is true, its why your idea makes far more sense, why boost the output voltage when you can make the generator output it in the first place :P
Kyle your his nemesis. Who else can say that about a man who owns his own track. Besides who’s he gonna tell. Yeah you should have seen those moves I put on that minivan in my Porsche. Keep it up man
Put some adjustable arms on front and back and go like -3 degrees on the right and put left side at 0. You can get them at mountain pass performance. You always win the launch just have to remember the perfect speed for the first turn so you can floor it out of the turn and setup for the next turn in front. A setup plaid drivetrain should be ultimate spectator drag car IMO
You will get better lap times if you enter the turns as close to center as you can yet stay as straight as you can as well. Enter the corners as low as you can and exit gracefully as close to the wall as you can before going into the next one. Beware of turn 3 always. lol. Awesome work. I soooo need one of these for my twin boys!!
As much as i love the scream of the engines in other cars on the channel, nothing gets me laughing like the absurdity of this thing accelerating 😂😂 Loving ALL the content man, keep doing you, apologize for nothing! Gave the traction coffee podcast a listen today, that was great! I leaned some stuff and was super entertained!
As the owner of both a 911 and a Tesla, I’m glad to see the Porsche win at what it was meant for! So much fun! Wish I had been there. I live in central FL too.
