The Price of the Archons' Ideals [Genshin Impact Character Analysis, Theory, and Lore] 

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Another flaw about Venti's ideal of freedom and his character --- is his appearence based of the Nameless Bard. If freedom from Venti's view is the ability to live your life without any chain nor regret. And yet, he still retains the image of his friend, and uses alchohol as way to cope with his sadness, that's an contradiction to his ideals. Because Barbatos chained himself into the memory of his friend, he cannot seem to fully enjoy freedom himself.

“What does freedom really mean, if demanded of you by a god?”

What if Venti going to sleep is his way of combatting corrosion? Similarly to how Ei avoids change and Zhong-li tries to resist it.

Zhongli seems like he has no faith, but covertly has major hope in the traveler. Seems likely given the contract with the Tsaritsa was made before he met Aether/Lumine and Paimon.

venti seems like the best archon overall. perhaps it was because he was not born into godhood, so he knows first hand what its like to be small and insignificant in the eyes of gods, to have dreams beyond ideals by best i don't mean hes the best at the job of course, I mean morally. he cares more deeply for his nations people than zhongli and ei. zhongli loves liyue of course, but he didnt stop to think how the people would feel about his test. ei didnt even think at all. venti on the other hand, all his big quests have been initiated purely by his genuine care for someone or something, rather than "his nation" he wanted to help dvalin, his friend, and apologise for his absence he risked revealing his identity to everyone by given imposter stanley closure on his dead friend, closure venti never really got with the nameless bard. even in the wholesome golden apple archipelago quest, he summons dvalin so his friends can go somewhere they seem passionate about i think hes very caring

The Hydro Archon seems to be having a heavy case of White and Black morality madness. it would be really fitting if the two characters showed in the Fontaine teaser are Phantom Thieves since they could dispense own sort of justice in grays. The muddy Gray were the clean pure waters of the Goddess of Justice refuse to touch

I think we DO know the Tsaritsa's ideal-love. She doesn't follow it anymore, but I don't think it's changed. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if she is doing everything unintentionally in a way that respects a twisted version of love.

I sense insecurity in the Hydro Archon, almost as if she did something wrong, something embarrassing, and thus feels the need to regain her pride by “judging other gods”

I think the archons didn’t really know what to expect when they became archons. They seem to develop an “all or nothing” mentality over time. The weight of their powers, title, responsibilities, and immortality becomes too much, and they make questionable decisions. I think Ei is the perfect example of that, and the hydro, dendro and cryo archons seem to have gone through a similar process. Celestia seemed to have given power to them based on some sort of criteria of theirs, sat back and watched the show lol I mean, they literally went to war to, according to speculations, occupy the seven seats in celestia. Also, they helped to destroy Khaenri’ah and probably other civilizations as well because celestia told them to. It doesn’t seem like it’s that fun to be an archon, tbh.

Time is the ultimate oppressor of freedom.

In one of my theories about Venti‘s naps, they could have something to do with Celestia and his gnosis. Knowing his rebellious nature and ideals, perhaps Celestia doesn’t want him acting up and to ensure that he only hears the minimum about what they do, they make him got to sleep when he isn’t needed. Given that Venti seems to dislike and or fear the place, it wouldn’t be far-fetched to assume that they did something that hurts the freedom of others, even before the cataclysm happened. Perhaps they make him sleep via his gnosis, which we know connects archons to Celestia and show their status as an archon, but we don‘t know much more than that. Now that it‘s gone and he isn’t forced to sleep, he could stay with his people as long as he wants, which could be why he hasn’t gone back to sleep yet.

Very excited for when Fontaine releases to see how the Archon quest plays out

I wonder if Ventis sleep is allowing him to resist corrosion of time better. We have not yet heard anything about corrosion relating to Venti and since he was close to the God of time, maybe he or them together figured out their own way to slow down or effectively stop corrosion.

From my anime-fu story sense: I suspect and guess that the Tsaritsa/Cryo Archon that she will be emotionally distant. She will claim "she loves everyone" but in fact is emotionless except for Celestia which she will hate with a passion.

the thing that gets me about how "imperfect" the archon's ideals are is that they're not bad in and of themselves. they're reasonable ideals to have for oneself. the problem comes when the archons try to rule a nation according to them, and end up imposing them on their people. like sure, they're gods. but above all they're the patrons of their nation. they still need to rule according to the needs of their people and not just their own. which seems to be a pretty important point in the inazuma archon quest specially

One thing I think about occasionally, in The Archon Quest, It seems like only Mondstant fights for the thing their Archon embodies for. Like, the first act is basically Traveller and friends setting Dvalin free from Abyss's crutches. However, Liyue and Inazuma are the opposite of it. In Liyue, Traveller saw the end of the contract between the Adepti and humans, while in Inazuma, the people literally rebel against their God's eternity. I don't know how the future regions will go, but it's kinda expected that The Traveller will oppose the future Archons once more. Maybe disproving the wisdom of Dendro Archon or fighting against the corrupt justice of Hydo Archon.

a theory i’ve been marinating wrt the dendro archon and the conflation between knowledge and wisdom is the fact that, based on some of the dialogue in the chasm questline, sumeru seems to be accumulating knowledge related to the suppression of ancient civilizations by celestia. we know by repeated exposure to their ruins that these cataclysms have usually been preceded by a society getting a glimpse of some truth behind the larger meta-reality of teyvat that they’re not supposed to see. i think the “folly” dainslief mentions is directly related to this; that the “ignorance” might actually be of the greater looming threat. by commodifying knowledge and essentially turning the accumulation of it into an arms race, the people might be recklessly bringing themselves closer to the ruin they seek to understand. in this way the pursuit of knowledge directly subverts the principles of wisdom: the presence of mind to extrapolate the end result from the information available to you. it’s an icarus situation. i definitely think we’re about to get a massive celestia lore bomb, or at least be standing on the precipice of a lot of hidden things, as the story moves into sumeru. who knows, maybe it’ll figure into the current threat there! great video as always, lots to think about.

It's interesting how Venti and Zhongli are both two sides of the same coin. They're both characters who want to do good, but their position as the God of Freedom and God of Contracts respectively demands the both of them to take on a more neutral stance. Which Archon will be the other half of Ei's coin?

now that we know of kusanalli's condition... Oh boy how things has changed..

I'm more curious on how war fits as an ideal when...Teyvat is clearly in an era of Pax Archon before and after the Cataclysm.

Tbh I'm expecting the hydro archon to be a boss when we get there. Based on the quote from her on the gem stone she just sounds like the most egotistical prick ever. Not to mention liben has said that Fontaine and sumeru are.. Not in good places right now and he wants NOTHING to do with either of them. Sumeru definitely gonna be that turning point in the story I'm guessing

Thank you for a really good analysis of all the Archon's ideals, it just makes me realized how "human" and "imperfect" certain ideals can be when pushed to the extreme especially for those who are given the title of "Archon" (because it is gods whom people look up to as perfect examples to follow and obey) I just wonder how all of these ideals would shape the Traveler's journey seeing as (maybe I'm wrong) but the only thing or ideal traveler is associated with is their journey and if we take Dain's words about "the threads of fate would be yours to reweave" that's something I really look forward to. I do also think that Zhongli's and Ei's 2nd story quest is them finally coming into terms of the meaning of their ideals, Zhongli upholds his promise as he is the god of Contracts while Ei has finally accepted loss and change, embracing Makato's ideals. I hope that if we get Venti's second story quest (copium, knowing Hoyoverse...) it would really show us the true meaning of freedom, I don't know why that phrase "What does freedom really mean when demanded of you by a god?" bugs me because Traveler mentions it in one of the his/ her voicelines also more about Venti's relations to the god of time. And hopefully we get to go back in time or something QwQ haha because I think Time travel is pretty cool...(I just really miss Venti...lol)

Im honestly impressed how frequent you upload aster.

Venti wakes up when something has happened to Mondstadt and goes back to sleep when Mondstadt is safe....... but up to now its been over a year in game and Venti is still awake and the storm terror threat has long been over and Dvalin has actually returned as the dragon of the east and is actively protecting Mondstadt now (this happened during the windblume). The question now is.... why is Venti still awake?

I think Venti's state of being awake/asleep is being dictated by the entity he was born from: aka the Thousand Winds of Time. If the Thousand Winds are just a collective of a thousand wind sprites then it would stand to reason that in order to function they need all of them present- including Venti. Its like yeah he may be considered more impressive than his other peers being a god now, but there isn't anything available to replace him so its back to the hive mind of wind and time for you problematic wind sprite. You can go back to your city when the story needs you to find a hero to save it or do your job. I admire Zhongli keeping his end of the contract no matter what, but I can forsee this biting him in the back one day because if you don't bend you break. Contracts can work out in a vaccum, but situations change and the balance can shift. What will happen if the power/punishment you hold against someone no longer affects them substantially which threatens you in the process? Eternity is very straight forward. Just a fancy word for preservation. Ei is also very straight forward. Wisdom is gained through experience, knowledge and time, but not everyone will grow wiser and depends from person to person. Kusanali is wise enough to know certain things must never be known, but is also aware that the people will still find out because it is in our nature to be curious and because everyone is interconnected on the basis of simply living in the same world the truth will eventually be discovered. Idk about Justice but I just know that I just hate the Hydro Archon. Narcissus is thy name, and justice you have forsaken. War is a concept both glorified and damned but its really a test for how much one can sacrifice for a means to an end. The word is shaped by war as much as we hate to admit it. We only improve because we strive to thrive and in order to thrive we need resources and power. It never really stops, its just called 'fighting for what you believe in'. But constant fighting can make you burn out and you either get snuffed out or reignite into a new flame. Its an unspoken agreement that the Cryo Archon's past belief is 'Love' but in its absence is 'Indifference'. 'Hate' is the opposite of love and cannot exist without it. The writers can also pull out a different noble ideal such as Kindness or Hope, but Love in its very broad definition encompasses all that is good. So its a very tragic notion to meet a God of Love who've lost faith in their own belief in something so good, to the point their correcting old habits that makes them seem 'gentle'. I hope you do a video on the potential ideal of the Cryo archon based on Cryo Vision holders' own ideals and principles.

Tsaritsa's ideal is love which then transform into control/manipulation or coldness. Canonically we know that she loved the humans more than anyone else and she, together with the dendro archon, took a stance against celestia during the cataclysm to protect the people of Khaenri'ah. Multiple fatui talk about how full of love she used to be, but she is no more and I think that's because of what happened during the cataclysm. I think even Childe says that underneath her cold exterior she used to be gentle and loving. I think the "death" of the people of Khaenri'ah affected her greatly, which is when she began to form her own army, the fatui, in order to one day overtake Celestia itself. She's blinded by her quest for revenge, unable to see how she's hurting the very humans she used to love. But maybe her quest is also one of love, of eliminating the ruler of heavenly principles and free the people of their controlling gaze, maybe she's sacrificing everything she has, including the humans she loves, in order to secure a future free of the heavenly principles and the controlling hands of Celestia. But since her ideal manifests through manipulation, I think it's clear why we could come to that assumption for now, since, from what we know, it seems that she's trying to have influence in every nation of teyvat, along with taking the gnoses. My theory is that she's taking the gnoses because, after the cataclysm and the death of the dendro archon along with the extermination of Khaenri'ah, The Tsaritsa proposed to all the other archons to unite and overtake Celestia, since only by uniting they'd be able to accomplish such a feat. Everyone disagreed. Ei, overwhelmed with grief, Venti nearly losing dvalin, Zhongli dealing with his own erosion, and sumeru without a god. No one agreed with her, letting her take this fight on her own. By taking their gnoses, she's forcing each one of them to fight her war, one at a time.

Me before meeting the Raiden Shogun: "wtf is wring with you ??" Me after meeting Ei properly: "Damn, I feel you, sister." I would never have guessed that I would find the god of electro, ruler of her own country since 500 years more relatable than the little blond guy in his white coat constantly searching for answers and understanding the world, having difficulties staying with people for too long despite liking them a lot. But here we are. Ei's reason for creating a realm of eternity is the same feeling that is haunting me for almost 2 decades. (that's my age btw. I'm 20) Hoyoverse really know how to build characters and make them likeable and relatable. I love it

Yo that tartaglia background is killing me 🤣

11:30 I just realised what *"THE CONTRACT TO END ALL CONTRACTS"* is Zhongli's part: Give the gnosis to the fatui Tsaritsa's part: End celestia, hence terminating the contracts between zhongli and celestia so he wont have to hurt anyone anymore. Edit: ALSO, if a vision is a rudimental version of a gnosis, and a vision is an ambition, then a gnosis is a god's ideals.

I think the pyro archon and Kokomi would get along well.

I once had the idea that only venti and zhongli fully embody their ideal in their element and themselves Venti- carefree his ideal is freedom like free as the wind. (Although you've now shown that he's restricted not only by heavenly principles but by his cycles of sleep) Zhongli- anything stated in a contract should be unchanging aka strong as stone. Also he's old like fossil or any rock in general. (Although both zhongli and rocks can errode) Now for the contradictions Ei- her ideal is eternity but lightning lasts for a moment Kusanali- with age comes wisdom and she is the youngest archon, it fits plants since plants are alive and age and in terms of knowledge plants can send nutrients and chemical signals to other plants through fungal networks. Hydro- water is pure and flexible. Justice should be firm rules equal to everyone. If your laws are flexible and change at will then thats unjust and hypocritical and if its hypocrytical then its not pure. Pyro- fire is destructive and so is war. If something is burnt its not coming back and you cant undo the destruction and casualties of war. But the pyro archon possibly has connections to ressurrection. Cryo- ice usually represents cruelness and apathy, its the opposite of love but probably fits the tsaritsa

After thinking about it, war can be quite the flexible ideal as no one creates war "just because". There is always something to gain out of a war which can range from resources to imposing ones own ideals onto others. Natlan's story might explore the problems of a might-makes-right society. Where imposing one's will on others, regardless of how good-hearted those intentions and ideals were, has led to problems, or perhaps someone with bad intentions has risen in the ranks and it has caused a decline of natlan's citizens wellbeing.

In the far future when we finally get the end game, they should make a whole ass movie about how the whole story unfold. I wouldn't even mind if its a series.

About freedom: well one could say that time is the ultimato shackle against freedom, you Stills have to bem servant to time, sleep, death, etc. About justice: as a great thinker one data Said" what a digital dummy"

I have to disagree a bit on the part on Venti tho, one thing you forgot to mention is the fact that he chooses to be absent, and the reason for it, a reason that is stated numerous times by the bard himself, "what is freedom if demanded by a god?", Venti chose to be absent, to loose power by not being active in his nation and to leave agency to his people for this reason, he finds it hypocritical to demand freedom, because requesting it negates the freedom demanded, on the reason why he sleeps, there could be different reasons, one could be the one you mentioned, surely an interesting one, othere reasons could be that being weakend because of his lack of presence he needs a lot of rest, or another one all together, he just sleeps, Venti is an immortal wind wisp, thus his concept of time and how he lives it is different, what we see as a century of sleep, to him might feel like a good night rest. I want to note that I don't want to dicredit you theory, just I found it a bit forced in the point on Venti and thought that a different prospective might help

I have to disagree to your point about Ventis absence. Venti had no choise in the matter! He fell asleep due to having spent his power to protect mond, it wasnt a choise, in a way you could say he basically lost his freedom. Ventis freedom isnt one of restrainlessness, if it was, he would allow the aristocracy to have the freedom to take other people captive, but he dont. Ventis freedom, is the freedom of choosing, and the consequenses that it bring. Sometimes a choise will have bad consequenses, like choosing to defend mond can cause your friends to be harmed, but likewise choosing to not do anything can cause the destruction of everything. And Venti is painfully aware of it. But having freedom is worth it. Now there is another beef with his freedom ideal, cuz how free are you really, if fate is preordained by the stars?

Imagine if the god of justice is blind, that will be a good design or the god of justice is going to be blind in an archon quest

One of my favorite hobbies is to dissect the character of my favorite archon, Venti. while I love him, I've come to find that his version of freedom goes to a dangerous place of neglect, I've discussed this with my friends and I think is because Venti knows more than he tells us but not enough as someone like zhongli or Ei. everything painful that an archon or god had to go through so far comes directly from Celestia and Khaenriah or it's a consequence of their actions, and Venti knows it. Morax and Ei had first hand experience with the khaenriah war, I have a theory that Celestia lured the archons to khaenriah with something they desperately needed. Zhongli has a contract that doesn't allow him to speak about khaenriah and we know Liyue was attacked, Inazuma was doomed until makoto went to the war, the dendro archon also went there and died, I suspect the tsaritsa also had to fight there, since she hates them so much. But Venti didn't. besides mondstadt going into chaos when Durin attacked, he waking up only to fight him with dvalin and put things in orders on the city, he didn't had a calling to fight in khaenriah. my theory is that he sleeps as a way to protect himself from erosion since he's the only one that doesn't seem preoccupied by it for now and to not be forced to interact with things that could put his people or himself in danger. The "freedom" venti represents is the desire to avoide celestia, their wars and punishment at all cause, meaning, he only wakes up when is absolutely necessary. Maybe his sleep even works as a way to hide from them. Since he was close with Astaroth, I think Venti knows that having celestia notice you is not a good sign.

And can we talk about the fun contradictions among characters. For the land of freedom, most characters are comitted to a job or a duty that ties them up (Jean gave up her childhood to be the grandmaster, Diluc runs a winery despite hating alcohol, etc.). In Inazuma, many characters represented ephemeral circumstances, such as fireworks, sakura blossoms that wither or the fallen leaves in autumn... As for Liyue.... Honesly I have no idea xd

Its said that Venti and zhongli are the only left of the origonal 7 and there ideals seems to have an iron choke hold on them. The other nations archons have since changed and, aparently, so have the inturpriations of there ideals.

Zhongli is the guy who looks really young (20-30ish) but has the wisdom of a 6000 year old

For the record I just wanna mention that Zhongli's Divine Ideal is not Contracts. It's Order, which he upholds THROUGH contracts. Just how Venti and Ei uphold their ideals through their own methods as well.

this is just making me more hyped for Sumeru and Fontaine hell yeah

Traveler will become millionaire when he gets to sumeru. Imagine his otherworldly knowledges before their descent to Teyvat.

I find it very exciting that the cryo archon is the god of love. They use this line in honkai "Things done out of love are not bound by right or wrong." And reading the cryo gem and venti's view on cryo archon I just can't not get excited on how the most powerful faction are doing gathering all the gnosis and military power. Also, bronya, seele, rozaria, liliya, raven and also elysia are from there! AAAAA my wallet can't wait anymore. C6 Seele is already a guaranteed.

I just had the worst news of my life and really needed something to distract me thank youu

I can’t hear Zhonglis voice without hearing Hawkzaddy

out of topic but your way of talking + voice + tone is so calming! It really calms me but also teaches me but it doesn't 'relax' me enough to slack off on any topic, idea or information :)

so i remember reading something a while back about the tsaritsa, (i dont remember where, i think it was something childe said?) but basically it went something along the lines of "the cryo archon used to be the sweetest, most loving person in the world, but because of (something i forgot, i think it was the heavenly principles) she had to make her heart as cold as ice" basically it seemed like she was forced to change and act "cold." literally oh and i love your vids and just subscribed

i will be extremely suspicious of natlan until we hear something else about it cause it freaks me out sm HAHAAH

i wouldn’t be surprised if tsaritsas ideal is peace, seeing how the harbingers say things like “noblest and purest” about her and how the other archons twisted their own ideals. it seems she wants unity, in a sense, and maybe she’s pursuing peace by trying to have one final war i think it’s a bad way to go about it but i could completely see if we went from the nation of war to the nation of “peace”

Venti, the archon with (probably) the most shackles, ironic since his ideal is freedom. The bard who tell other's story but not his.

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I've been waiting for this topic 😍

I am pausing the video to say this about venti, I don't think it's made clear the importance of why he was absent, although I believe the clues are right in front of us. One word, corrosion. In all of the archons so far we have seen them dealing with the problem of corrosion. Zhong Li fears it, and it moved him to take on the contract putting the people he cared for in harms way. Ei thinks she has solved the problem by making a puppet to act as her body while locking away her consciousness in her sisters sword. Even Dainsleif explains how the hilichurls erode down to nothing but darkness in the end. So I believe that venti's way of dealing with corrosion has something to do with his long slumber segments, he is after all one of the oldest archons so far. I believe this is how he resists the spread of corrosion over time.

A very interesting video, I definitely have stuff to think about now

I remember dainsleif saying all the gods are born arrogant. This would imply that all archons have had an ideal they followed unrelentlessly. It also implies every archon will do so.

I love ya videos. I hope you get top marks in your next test! :D

I think Sumeru is going to be the major turning point in the game. The Abyss Order hasn't been super involved in Liyue and Inazuma, and since Sumeru has such a big focus on knowledge, it makes sense to me that Sumeru- the Academia in particular- would be trying to discover the secrets behind the Abyss Order and Celestia. I think that if Celestia is going to be the main villain of the game (which seems highly likely at this point), they would want to take some kind of action against Sumeru. I don't think we're going to get a full Cataclysm situation, but it seems likely that, assuming Celestia is the main villain, there's going to be something major happening in Sumeru.

Haii ester, I just wanted to suggest that, I think you can make this as "episodes" and make atleast 16-20 mins of videos per archons so you can elaborate more concepts and theories about the contradicting ideals of these 7 archons. Your statements are very wonderful and I know im not the only one who loves to see more additional concepts about the current archons and the remaining archons about their ideals and their contradicting ideals. Hoping to see more stuffs about this topic on your channel. Thankiess 😘😘😘

no because it kinda make sense, people in sumeru who pursues their god's ideal 'wisdom' became a glutton for knowledge and keep on making new discoveries to the point that some student from the academia started to experiment on humans

Now that Sumeru is out the line "The god of Wisdom's enemy is wisdom itself. In the oases of knowledge is a mirage in the desert of ignorance, in the city of scholars, there is a push for folly, yet the god of wisdom makes no argument against it." could mean that the people of Sumeru (particularly the sages) think they are so smart that they feel like they don't need a God of wisdom, and since Kusanali is still a child, she doesn't exactly know how to enforce rules in a nation despite her being 500 years old.

Ah but haven’t you heard? “My ideal have no stains”

What if Venti woke up because the Traveler woke up? It seems he woke up right before we did when we came on him and Dvalin in the forest. Everywhere the Traveler has been, something huge has happened and we’re on the path to change some major things in Teyvat

Unrelated but I really had to say this after watching a good amount of your videos. I really really like your voice!

omg my favorite theory person just posted a video😭❤️

Excellent video! Waiting for the Geo and Cryo visions explanations! Also, it's interesting to notice a few things: Wind usually has a direction, and Venti, the Anemo Archon, seems actually directionless; he actually didn't go to sleep again after the Dvalin events and after being stripped from his Gnosis, which means that he changed even in the slightest by choosing to stay awake in Mondstadt, even if not being recognized by his folks (it's really funny that the "devoted nuns" and even the Deaconess Barbara cannot put two and two together everytime they see Venti and the Statue of Barbatos) On Liyue, I can see Zhongli's contract as his very own form of rebellion, because he was becoming obedient to both Celestia and Liyue's folks, so his disconnection from both can be seen as a way to release himself. At last, Ei's extreme contradiction between the meaning of Eternity and the meaning of what her Element represents is more than poetic; also, she was not as tightly bound to Celestia as the Archon Makoto, her sister, and her choice to give her Gnosis to a puppet ended up also as a form of rebellion itself, as the puppet (Kunikuzushi) ended up keeping it for himself and she decided to let it slide

Aster you're hilarious the promo was the laugh i needed

Howdy and nice you been improving

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Hey Aster what do you think Zhongli’s contract inscribed? (The one between him and the Tsarista)

Oh, oh my god. Babe wake up aster posted

Venti my fave character so much!!!

This video is awesome.I am interested in how they are going to do Fontaine the archon sounds very interesting. But sumerus plot is really good so far so I don’t mind waiting. Side note whenever I hear Fontaine I think of the guy from bioshock.

After seeing what happened with Ei, I wonder if the other Archons will be challenging their own ideals and overcoming? I can see the Pyro Archon, Archon of War, probably being challenged by their people who are sick of the bloodshed and constant battles as they are probably forced to be mercenaries or divided into clans and fight in a sort of collesium. I wonder if we will have to help kill an Archon?

Venti is a tragic character. God of Freedom bounded to mortal grounds by alcohol.

the sumeru part aged well

Do remember that some Archons are still humans or harbors human emotions, as such they are imperfect. This is why there is no true good and perfect form. Ei was blinded by her determination to enforce eternity, although eternity may be good in some aspects, it doesn't fit with the other aspects. Humans have the emotion "boring" for a reason and innovation. Zhongli's ideal is good. It encourage commitment and trust, but it has many flaws that I am not familiar with. Being too commited to something might turn into an obsession, and I have gone through an obsession before. It doesn't feel good at all. The Dendro Archon, whom I forgot the name, is blinded by the misinterpretation of wisdom being knowledge. Wisdom involves a healthy dose of perspective and the ability to make sound judgments about a subject while knowledge is simply knowing. Venti's ideal is sometimes good sometimes bad. Freedom is too broad, but I think Venti's main ideal of freedom is the freedom of choice. Anyone is free to choose what they want to do or won't do. Like you can be a tyrant if you choose to be, but the people you enslave or rule has the freedom to choose whether to submit or fight you. Unlike the other Archons, he doesn't rule Mondstadt directly. Although this may be a good thing, but Venti is giving too much freedom. While Mondstadt stood for thousands of years, he spent most of that time sleeping. He slept for around 2100 years in total. During that time, a tyrannical aristocracy was able to emerge. If Venti keep doing this, then another tyranny would eventually emerge.

Cover pyro visions and how people get them

there is one tiny bit i dislike about the video: Ei and the vision hunt decreee. she didnt start it, she just didnt do anything against it bc it was no enemy to eternity. in your video, it sounds like she actively wanted it instead of passively letting it happen

i think the cryo archon's ideal might be peace because in the recent fatui trailer the 1st fatui harbinger says " we will seize authority from the gods, absolute peace such is the gift from the tsarists herself." which could mean that the cryo archons motive for trying to take all of the Nosis' is absolute peace and that is her way of trying to reach her Ideal, why taking the Nosis will mean absolute peace i don't really know i haven't mush context to go on. this is just a theory but it makes sense to me. ps sorry for any grammer or spelling misstaks i'm not the best at spelling and stuff

A funny detail is that Tsarista being the goddess of Love. Despite her being at the same time Goddess of Ice, and the fact she owns the most aggressive Clandestine Agency in Tevyat, the Fatui. Fatui could be a reference to 1989 Ingsoc`s Ministry of Love. Given their goddess`s embodiment.

Maybe the God of Justice and the old Hydro Archon are kinda like Kayle and Morgana respectively. One thinks justice should be absolute, and that anything slightly wrong should be punished. While the other tries to understand the whole situation and all the reasons behind it, and then judge.

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I have no foundation to cover what I'm gonna say, but couldn't "war" as an ideal refer to passion... to revolution? To destroy and start from scratch. Every character that has a pyro vision is known for passion and adrenaline, it's what moves them to overcome difficulties, the same way war, or revolution, is caused by impulse and the passion for change for the better. However, it is pretty vague. I'm just throwing ideas to later understand the ideals of Murata (if it is the current pyro archon)

It's fitting that contracts is a part of war, love, justice, eternity and love but wisdom and freedom is both everchanging. That's why anemo and dendro doesn't react with geo.

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Another thing to note is that of the three archons mentioned, some of the issues were not solely there fault but rather exploitations in the ideals by outside forces. The abyss and Fatui both played roles in exploiting the ideals. The abyss exploited the fact that Venti was absent to poison and corrupt Dvalin, while the Fatui exploited Zhongli's contracts to acquire the gnosis. Similarly Ei's eternity was exploited by both the corrupted commissions and the fatui . The Archons ideals are flawed but its often the exploitation by an outside force that causes them become major problems.

I feel like the flaw of “War” for the Pyro Archon is being overly passionate and prone to emotional outbursts. Arguing over the littlest things and trying to justify every action, like, dislike, etc. As for the Cryo Archon. If her ideal really is “Love,” then it could probably be something like naivety or blindness. Tartaglia said it himself that the Tsaritsa used to be very gentle but ultimately steeled herself of all emotion after the cataclysm. My theory is that she loved all the people of Tyvet. The cataclysm originated in Khanhria, but because they had no god to protect them, the situation was too far gone. So while the archons were sent to Khanhria in an attempt to save them, Celestia ultimately decided to put Khanhria out of its misery and destroy them. This is when the Tsaritsa started to steel herself. She held on to the belief that there WAS a way to save them. From her prospective, Celestia made the archons witness the destruction of Khanhria and its people first hand. She thought there was a way to save them, only to see some of the people she cared for be cursed for life or killed by the very gods asking her to protect those people. Thus, the Tsaritsa’s grudge against Celestia was formed and the plan for rebelling started. Sorry for the long comment. I didn’t mean for it to be so long, but there’s just so many things about the Tsaritsa that’s interesting.

I feel like the archons ideals are also the greatest weaknesses for example venti, he won’t free himself from the past because he feels guilty of his Friends passing and zhongli signed away his title as the Geo archon in the name of contracts and to protect lyue and as you said raidens ideal is a coping mechanism instead of actually grieving for her sisters and her friends loss as for nahida as dain says that wisdom is her greatest enemy because of forbidden knowledge this is also why all the archons have a second story quest so they can truly understand their titles but vent he doesn’t have a second story quest simply because he’s the only archon Who has to understand the true meaning of freedom because you can’t be the god of freedom but yet not free yourself from the past this can also be predictions for the next archon quest for The other nations The current Hydro archon sees justice as The only way to remove your sins which could mean that she’s also had her sins but denies it and the pyro archon could see war as mere entertainment instead of fighting for what you stand for and the cryo archon had to harden he heart to achieve her dream of a new world but also doesn’t know how much impact she has on the other nations and it’s possible that she hates her self because of her past which is why she can’t really love her people as the same as the og each of the archons ideals are corrupted in a way and we the traveler have to help them understand or let go of the past and truly achieve freedom contracts eternity wisdom justice war and love

Since we only have Ei for now so it may be not valid, but I have a feeling that Sustainer of the heavenly principles is stricter to older archons.

My interpretation of the Dendro Archon’s corruption of wisdom comes from the Buddhist ideal of enlightenment. The story goes that, in order to find a cure for humanity’s suffering, the Buddha meditated and fasted underneath a tree. Once he could look past the suffering of the world, the Buddha achieved enlightenment. I suspect the Dendro Archon might be attempting the same thing and is ignoring the folly of her people as consequence.

i think the tsaritsa's price is obsession or revenge. venti said she changed after the cataclysm, maybe she lost someone and became obsessed with getting revenge on their behalf? she's even going as far to rebel against celestia because her *love* pushed her to do so. she also claims to "love" her people and harbingers, yet she acts so cold and restrictive towards them, too obsessed and vengeful to notice that she no longer loves the way she thought she did. this is mostly a wild guess tbh but i thought it made sense

Edit: Last paragraph added I agree with your interpretation of Sumeru's mix up of Knowledge and Wisdom. You can gain knowledge at your own pace, but wisdom comes with experience. (And maybe time too, but honesty im not too sure myself lol). The two aren't the same at all. Not sure what Dainsleif could mean when talking about Sumeru's ignorance or push for folly. But I do like the idea of their ideals getting all mixed up. I wouldn't be surprised if Lesser Lord Kusanali was very knowledgeable, but because of how young they are they just simply lack the Wisdom. I wouldn't be surprised if im completely wrong though. I want to say the Fatui might have something to do with this sudden change of ideals. Genshin's story always ends up surprising me though lol. 😳

I once saw this community post with an image that said: “In Mondstadt, we helped solve [Venti’s] problem. In Liyue, we got caught up in [Zhongli’s] problem. In Inazuma, [Ei] was the problem.” Then, it showed Kusanli with “????” And one person replied, “Wait maybe it’s us helping HER find her problem”

13:00 "you mortals" she let it slip. aster is a god an unknown one you could say

On the possible path of the Pyro Archon: Could it be possible that Murata may embody her ideal through "zealotry"? Dainsleif comments that "The rules of war are woven in the womb: the victors shall burn bright, while the losers must turn to ash". We know that at one point the citizens of Natlan were enslaved by the nobility of Mondstat. This could lead to a 'might makes right mentality' where the strong are treated with respect and the weak or average are tossed aside. This could even be taken further with Murata actually reducing those who fail to prove themselves time and time again to cinder. We are told by Venti in the manga that Murata's people are few in number. This could be done in hopes of cultivating a strong people that will never be dominated again.

I will probably be wrong but, analyzing the words... Natlan, the nation of war, might be the most peaceful out of the seven nations. War (if mihoyo doesn’t want to repeat concepts/events with the nations) in itself is surviving, without getting it related to love and battle the world (snezhnaya), disagreement(liyue), freedom, try to change a perspective (abyss) or thriving with yourself (inazuma). Natlan would be just directly battle, something humans do naturally

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