The Problem With Flutter Mane... 

electric wind girlfriend mentioned

Damm, that's a smart 12 year old

Electric wind god fist

Electricwindgirlfriend refrence? I love dracovish

@@lordsalty2060 boingus

Most likely it was due to environmental changes, either temperature or similar things.

With that much power it probably overhunted its food source and starved lmao

It ate everything and then starved

yap@@LiliumOrientalis

@@ALittleMessithank you Mr fish

incineroar can be this as well

this is exactly what i do. if i cant fit a pokemon into the slot, that doesnt matter. flutter mane will fit regardless because its a ghost and can phase itself into the slot

Kingambit in OU singles be like

@@mayonnaise6602 Or AV Raging Bolt.

​@@Endershock1678I'm looking into stealing ProgatogVGC's trickroom + Lillikoal team and I dislike Raging Bolt's aesthetics. I was going to plop a Flutter Mane in there instead and call it a day. All three are literally sprinkles at this point. Even to the point of slapping all three on a team then picking whatever physical pokemon you want to run seems viable. Gen 9 is simultaneously a very diverse generation and the most centralized. Power creep is whack.

Mega Gengar with free item slot

At least you can (at least theoretically) switch out 😭

@@tpfoxCastro literally 😭😭

@@PoisonFlower765and in turn it has no switch-ins…

@@PoisonFlower765you switch out and you either just die or get 2HKO'd anyway 😭

The designer at game freak probably doesn't decide what stats, abilities & moves a pokemon gets

Then who the hect does?!?!?​@@maganhassan2627

He's real for that

@@maganhassan2627 but it clearly has that clear 'fakemon stat distribution'

Since Mismagius is my favorite, unfortunately I also have a bias and like Flutter Mane

Facts. No need for further explanation.

Yup I mean it is a paradox so let’s make it have the most BROKEN stats and a super good typing!!! :D

they should have left it extinct, why bring it back

@@viniciussousa9791 Blame Sada. Woman certainly didnt saw jurassic park

@@mysticpumpkin8520ok but we got great neck like come on

*scizor used bullet punch!*

Mewtwo WISHES he could reach Flutter Mane's perfection

None and that’s the problem.

@@ogmechsftwFluttermane's teammate is Farigiraf.

It's not even alive tho smh

Basically they gave the coughing baby infinite hydrogen bombs

I think they thought "what if we made a better typed non legendary calyrex shadow rider"

It’s gen One Alkazam except infinitely better

@@bettyunicorn6132it is literally Alakazam, but with an extra 70 stat points and better typing.

I mean... its basically just Misdreavus's stats just upped to 11 basically so... close. Gen 2 pokemon.

@@Articfoxgamez yea the thing with gen 2 mons are decisions like "this thing will have the most barren movepool you've ever seen with not a single stat above 100"

@@luissilva1954 How about an early route bug/flying type with a stat spread of 55/35/50/55/110/85 that learns no moves of its type in its debut generation not that it'd matter as 35 attack ain't going to help. In future games it eventually gets iron fist as a HA boosting punching attacks coming off that massive 35 attack by 20%

It doesn’t have the same distribution, it’s actually much more lopsided. It has less HP, Def, and ATK than Misdreavus

So is Hoppip

​@@HazeEmryLearn English. Thanks

@@Clooger- oh sorry, So did Hoppip. Did that satisfy you master?

I use it in ubers single with koraidon Sun, it can nuke stuff with choice specs.

@@gamedominatorxennongdm7956 I can only imagine....also funny that Flutter beneficts from Koraidon but she can also send the bike to a recycle plant just with dazzling gleam😅

@@mysticpumpkin8520 Yeah, assuming it hasn't tera fire flare blitz your ass into the shadow realm.

@@gamedominatorxennongdm7956 and now you get open to Iron Bundle to nuke you, who just happens to be the ONLY pokemon that can outspeed flutter (by 1 point no less). Considering sun and E-terrain dont obstruct each other, I can see both being a good duo with Miraidon

@@mysticpumpkin8520 Yeah but that's kinda redundant with all the special attackers.

Making Bug and Psychic Types resist Fairy could work. Both making a decent amount of sense with both Bugs and Fairy being in tandem with nature (also would be interesting for another duo of types that resist each other like Bug and Fightin) and Psychic using logic and reason to explain the mystical/magical abilities of the Fairy Type; along with buffing two of the more underpowered Types currently in the series.

Making steel resist ghost again would help but for the fairy resist making bug resist it wouldn’t do much since there aren’t a tone of super good bug types

I was thinking maybe grass could be a good resist to fairy. With so much media of fairies being seen helping and enhancing nature, It would make sense that they wouldn't want to hurt it, thus grass resisting it.

It should probably be bug or fire

Fire already resists fairy and I could see grass working would be a nice little buff to it as a bonus

Xerneas was also like right next to the flutter mane

What happened in Violet then?

​@@deadlydingus1138 second Miraidon sounds about right or an iron bundle managed to hit with Icy wind.

@@deadlydingus1138 Choice band E-terrain boosted Tera fighting Helping Hand Iron Hands Drain Punch from a mile away

@@deadlydingus1138 when Iron Valiant saw it, it launched Moonblast towards it, then just punched it with Close Combat

Idk why but it keeps barking 252 SpA Choice Specs Protosynthesis Tera Fairy Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 76+ SpD Incineroar: 198-234 (98 - 115.8%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

It got the dawg in it

Especially when you consider the physical counterpart, Play Rough, is weaker than Moonblast and can miss among other issues

I advocate for bug to resist fairy. Maybe be super effective against it

Gholdengo Investments has their hands in everything. This guy must have been paid by the past paradox form of Gholdengo "Old Money"

​@@ThisAintGood. but for that to not be pverpowered we should nerf u-turn to 60 base power (this post was not made by scizor)

@@ThisAintGood. I'd say psychic. Would also fit thematically (as you grow older and smarter you stop believing in fairytales) and psychic can really use the buff.

Steel is strong enough

Wait? They are? No, seriously, they're counterparts? How?

​@@Gold_Gamer_100Down in area zero, you fight a bunch of paradox mons at the entrance of zero lab. Their "boss" is Flutter Mane in scarlet and Iron Jugulis in violet

A recent raid event had Flutter spawning for Scarlet players and Jugulis spawning for Violet players

I have the exact opposite, I like Jugulis and am trying to forget Mane exists

you mean iron mugulid?

Minmax to the max !

​@@dse763sometimes I wonder if minmax mons like Pheramosa and Flutter Mane were the best ideas...

I agree that would be an interesting nerf. Probably staying away from singles still unless it gets a stat redistribution but in VGC it becomes FAR more manageable.

I used my mono dragon team from Gen 4 in the most recent online global challenge. (Altaria, Garchomp, Flygon, Kingdra, Latios and Latias) Icy wind and Dazzling gleam were annoying, but ultimately seemed fair as it was spread damage that wouldn't knock out any of my team unless it was a crit. Moonblast seems a little too much for Flutter to have. Especially with it being able to be one of the fastest pokemon on the field. Speed lowering, a fair tactic to use. Spread damage taking advantage of my weaknesses. Single target damage that i can, at best, make neutral and still sometimes faint due to its power + STAB, a little unfair. Stil was never the worst thing i went up against. That honour goes to a Smeargle that knew spore and baneful bunker with the ability moody on the field with an alolan Grimer with the power of alchemy ability that knew minimize and acid armour, especially as there wasnt a sleep clause. Guess what mistake i made.

I could agree with Moonblast being gone, I think that move in general is too overturned. I like Flutter Mane in general, and don’t find it too bad to play against, but I need to play very cautiously if I see a specs set with Moonblast

@@DJTileTurnip if flutter mane were to get a stat reduction they would have to reduce every single paradox. Pokémon that isn’t iron, valiant, roaring moon, and the ones who are based on legendary’s.

​@@bird6528They could just dump a bunch of stats into Attack and reduce others though

Genuinely, that thing deals so much damage, and feels impossible to OHKO, and is absolutely irritating to deal with when it just snarls and e webs

I've never had a problem with it but my team does have a follow me Electabuz and e-speed Entei that makes its priority move cancel itself out in failure and a H-Goodra that tanks anything it has while mostly one shoting it with DracoMeteor. I also had a Trick Room set with my regular Ursaluna in my previous team. Water Urshifu is the worst thing I see. Unblockable, multi hit, STAB move, STAB close combat, on a decent bulk with great speed and a huge attack stat is the definition of OP.

They’re my favorite legendary trio

It's weird they forgot to add one that drops attack, guess Intimidate covers it enough

Angry Wo Chien noises.

How could you forget the fourth one The one that lowers your attack? Incineroar

does the BST even matter when flutter mane can kill roaring moon

go away :

Perish (song)

We all have tough ones sometimes. I'm glad to help out with yours.

​@@MoxieBoosted we know why yveltal and its fairy counterpart were absent it's cause they're will be part of pokemon legends za

Misdreavus and Mismagius are still cack, this thing is a merely an unnatural perversion

Slither Wing plush when? (I have been waiting for over a year)

What dark type you think isnt switching out immediately after catching a whiff of that thing

It won’t change much, very few dark types want to eat Mystic fire/Thunderbolt/Moon blast/shadowball or Make it rain/shadow ball/Focus blast respectively. You need fucking Kingambit typing and super bulk to even stand a chance at switching in, meanwhile mons like Tyrannitar or weavile get absolutely demolished on switch in.

You think FLUTTER MANE is afraid of Pursuit?

Flutter ain't the one who needs to switch out my man

Don't play OU. The lower tiers like UU are way better now.

This is why we need Megas back to balance this ish

I’m pretty sure Speed Booster flutter mane outspeeds Deoxys S.

Comfortably lol, level 50 252 Timid Deo-S hits 255 speed, Timid 252 FM w/Booster Energy hits 307. Even Modest outspeeds but then you have to use lower spattk

@@itztaytay2You know your game isn't balanced in the slightest when the 2nd fastest mon gets outspeed by a mon with 45 less base speed.

@@dse763 by 52 points

It’s also that Flutter Mane is a necessity on some teams. The most popular core right now is the Fire Water Grass balance core, and that core gets ruined by dragon types like Regidrago and Raging Bolt. As such, you need a Pokémon that can both reliably switch in and threaten those dragons, and because the tapus aren’t in the game, the only real option is either some off meta pick like Sylveon, or the reliable Flutter Mane.

How I have violet yet I have all shiny past paradox mons😂

Jokes on you. I don’t play competitive.

They are cute

You and me alike, really.

@@Abigdummy4life Never thought I'd find another.

Zacian if it wasn't a restricted legendary

It's obviously made by a 12 year old.

First

First

I have started madness haven’t I?

First 🤓

Didn't work... Good try tho m8

Won't matter if they keep unleashing demons like this. Mega-Beedrill min maxed Beedrill completely and it still got bodied by good megas. Even if they give something disgusting to Stunfisk or some other booty tier Mon, they're gonna power creep it that same gen.

I still think things like swampert need buffs (I would say porygon z needs a buff but he’s actually pretty good)

@@Thelaserman20 I agree that something is always better than nothing. I just can't imagine GameFreak handling it well lol. Time will tell I suppose. Maybe mega Swampert will be back after Legends Z-A