The Red Top Just Got a LOT Better | Sea Vixen War Thunder 

It CAN get forward quarter shots... If the target is hot enough and within 1.2 miles. I've launched at plenty of supersonic MiG-21. You know how hot an aircraft is at mach 0.9? You know how many aircraft at 8.3 can go mach 0.9?

@@RedTail1-1 Supersonic MiG-21s aren't relevant to this. They have afterburners and thus should be even easier to lock onto and a lower speed wouldn't matter when the afterburner plume is visible. According to one of the bug reports, the Red Top could lock onto a Yak-28B in front aspect 10km away. While yes, Mach 0.9 would make it easier to get a lock in all-aspect, the effect wouldn't completely disappear if the speed is lowered for example to Mach 0.85 (1049km/h) which a lot of planes at 8.3 can reach.

amazing, if sea vixen had these, the plane should be 9.7 period. Better flight performance than the Hunter F6 and better missiles than it too.

@@kingghidorah8106 Not really. It's still a 12G missile so it can be dodged. It's just good for longer range snipes and at high altitudes. The SRAAM should also be getting a few buffs. It should also get the all-aspect capability that depends on the target's speed or afterburner and the range should be doubled.

Yes, and there's also that time the Lightning went to space.

Glad you agree!

Sounds about right

Shhh it only sees like 1 262...

@@GeneralLee2000 that it sees even one is criminal.

Just dodge bro :3

How? It got its br lowered? (Yes i didn’t watch the video😅

Oh yeah I forgot it existed 🤣

@@GeneralLee2000 I feel like everyone does. No guns, and weak rockets, and you have to buy another premium to buy it.

Shh, don't let them buff it and move this plane up to the hellhole that is 9.3 while having to fight flareless.

No

Eheh

uuuuuuuooooohhhhhhh 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Its a crutch for terrible players​@@GeneralLee2000

I don’t get it

You were dreaming lol, this is my first decal

Yessir! Overall feels much better

I'm glad you think so!

Yessir! I worked in as much as I could of the game ahaha. Now you see what that exciting news was.

Give it a shot!

I'd still like to have some guns man 😅

It's coming

@@GeneralLee2000 actually they added it to they dev server, so it’s here. Now they just need to add the BOL pods

@@batlax18 oh you meant the 8 missile loadout lol

Hey may as well right?

Please do a Sea Vixen and Red Top review PLEASE 🥺

True...

Not just that, but the reduced time before they start steering makes them more effective at close range too. Previously there was a very narrow sweet spot where they were effective. Too close and they'd miss because they didn't start guiding in time, too far and they'd run out of speed before they caught up with the target.

Bizon was 12.0 on the Dev server, or has that changed?

@@Typhoon_FGR4 has changed. It lost 60 countermeasures so went from 120 to 60 and was lowered to 11.7

They're putting the A-10/Su-25 up to 10.7 in ARB and that's a good riddance IMO. Should give breathing room to move things like the MiG-15bis/F-86F back to 8.7, MiG-17/CL-13 back to 9.0, and the early supersonics back to 9.7

Why shouldn't they move up in battle ranking for balance exactly?

@@user-gv4zb9rc6u Because even Gaijin has pointed out, twice I might say, that they moving them up will make them even worse and that they already struggle at their current BR. They were fine where they were at.

@mokaso They said that was the case when they didn't have their missiles because they used them. Do not mince their words. Every other aircraft gets balanced around what it CAN carry, NOT how it operates once those missiles are expended. These are not fighter aircraft. They are not meant for air superiority. They are meant to be used when air supremacy or superiority is achieved, not when it is actively contested. The fact they get all aspect missiles when many of their opposing planes don't even get flares as is should shut this nonsensical train of thought down. They can be moved up, and guess what? It will likely bring more diversity and interesting game play back compared to now. It is the players that use this train of thought, your present that cause the problem in the first place, thinking 'self defense missiles' mean 'offensive combat fighter'.

@@user-gv4zb9rc6u Very bold of you to assume the me, or any other player for that matter, who uses the A-10 or the Su-25K in Air RB is there strictly to kill other aircraft. I don’t but assume away. Gaijins’s two statements surrounding them didn’t bring their missiles into the discussion beyond saying they were purely for self-defense. And I agree. There should be some inherent threat or deterrent to make going after an airframe that is slower than you, can’t climb as fast as you, doesn’t retain speed or entry in any type of maneuver. Moving them up was purely to provide a crutch to a playerbase that refuses to do anything other than fly low and fly left. Don’t use the other 98% of the map to flank or the 20,000 or so feet worth of altitude to top attack from. “I’m going to continue head-on attacking these slow, low flying ground pounders despite the fact that my fighter was designed to hunt or escort high altitude bombers and their escorts. It was to appease the biggest case of “skill issue” to date. We will gloss over how rare it was to even see them in a match given the 10.0-11.3 premium spam. But hey, now they get face F-14s with Aim-54s and 27Rs with a forward spawn that will highlight them before anyone else. Gaijin didn’t sound happy to move these so hopefully after the update, in the next round of BR changes, Gaijin will move them back because they’ll become next to useless. Not too mention the fact that they had a price tag to them.

I KNOW haha

Sky flash def up there

@@brycesakal3717 sky flash is, in the most literal sense of the word, a downgrade of the red top

@@redicity5884 I know I’m just playing lol

SOMEONE APPRECIATES MY BAD JOKES

F-89D. Some other commenters reminded me lol

@@GeneralLee2000 yeah. Not going to lie warthunder RU-vidrs are amazing at replying to comments. You, seek and defyn especially

There's a W TWR bot discord I'm in, generates them using a bot

@@GeneralLee2000 wt wiki used to have them and got removed like 7 years ago

My paid actors are very useful yems

Explain what? I'm confused

He’s only human

​@@GeneralLee2000the decal

He's a young man, that's the explanation. At least it's not a weeb livery.

It's kino

And what might be the matter my good sir?

@@GeneralLee2000 Well considering its you, they're not asain girls for one.

Completely forgot it existed lol

@@GeneralLee2000 It's proxy rockets are really fun, it's essentially a 7.0 F-104 with just how fast it is

I had the same feeling too after test driving warbond Sea Vixen. I don’t know how the Red Top used to behave, but it’s very easy to dodge now. I got only 1 kill in 3 games

@@thomaszhang3101 Old red tops were very good below 9.0. At some angles and speeds it was impossible to dodge. This sounds OP at first, but considering the sea vixen has no gun it was balanced imo.

Not a red top enjoyer?

@@GeneralLee2000 more like not a British enjoer

Hallo Clemens, ja )))

@@GeneralLee2000 Damn that's deep

I hate sea vixen players too 🤣

German plane username spotted, opinion about balance ignored

nah, maybe 9.0 tho, so the Vixen players can suffer in full uptiers as much as we suffered facing them while flying our 7.3s/7.7s

@@enzohumeau8864 Agreed

@@theBrid-gv8je Germany suffers

If the mig 15 bis can be at 8.0 then the sea vixen can be 8.7 lmao.

Nah he’d win

So sad...

Bro.. stop saying things like these, it is useless

f-86 is much more of a problem, especially for 7.0s, it can outrun them, it can outturn them, has easy to use guns and sabre can't be dodged by rolling, unlike mig-15

@@-..----.--.-... but if the sabre has to fight a mig15, it get's out climbed and dies

@@J4ckmaestro If die just by being outclimbed you have some issues

@@-..----.--.-... you cannot beat an equal skilled player in a plane that has better energy creation than you

Doesn't help that half the tree isn't even worth shooting in until you get the lightning.

Someone beat you

Yup, almost certainly

Thanks man! I'm excited :)