@@currythegoatofmankindthepa5156 is it? I don’t know. But what I was trying to get at is that it’s rarer to have a mid engine car and the cool factor makes it more expensive. Like those dang Stanley Starbucks cups. Same cup but just rarer.
The original Gen 1 and 2 MR2 were based on the FWD Corolla with the engine turned around and located behind the driver. MR2 was priced low and ultra reliable. Two friends used their MR2’s as daily drivers. Only 2 seats limited its appeal, but it was so much fun. The new MR2 will not be mainstream.
Toyota is the number one enthusiast brand right now they’re finally putting their wealth to good use. The amount of products in the pipeline is completely insane.
Yes I see you in every Toyota video being the biggest fan boy. Two of Toyota sports cars aren’t even made by them the Subaru and the BMW. The car that is made by them the 3 cylinder Gr Corolla is very underwhelming.
@@123antimiro if Toyota is a appliance brand then why are you here ? 😂 bit confused are we ? Shouldn’t you be watching a Porsche video instead ? Yeah that’s what I thought 😅
At $70k they are gonna have a hard time moving these, especially considering the fact that the C8 Corvette is around the same price, but makes significantly more power
And the C8 is selling extremely well. Over 40,000 units per year with a six figure average transaction price! That's beyond impressive. This car should start around $50k if they want to generate some enthusiasm for it.
@@Viper3048probably the best track performing vehicle vs a cool looking snooze fest that will zip around corners and lag everywhere else for same price...Everyone in USA maybe not world wide is choosing the verge.The mr2 doesn't have enough fans to support it
The MR2 base sold for a reasonable $11,000 in 1985. A loaded new 1986 Mustang GT cost $13,600. I went with the Stang because of EFI and vastly improved handling. Now, if you extrapolate $11,000 to today's dollars, that's about $31,000. At that base price, the new "Mista Two" would be great. But a $40,000+ starting point is far more likely.
Look at it this way - a Civic Type-R is $45k without markup, and the Type-S $52k. And they're based on an existing econo-platform. This is essentially a C8 with a tiny engine. I'd choose it over a Corvette, but $40k is shroom trip territory. Can't and won't happen.
I’m guessing $50-$60k. The Supra is Toyota’s flagship sports car, I seriously doubt they will price the MR2 higher than it. And since it’ll be using the Corolla engine, that should keep costs lower, after all, Toyota said they had to collaborate with BMW to make the Supra affordable, so using the existing Corolla engine should be even more affordable.
Man I hope we get this in the US! But that price gotta come down to at least the $40s- hi $50s! And I like that first rendering in white! But just get it here with descent power and we'll figure it out! Awesome review as always! 👌🏾✌🏾❤✊🏾
15:44 To answer your question... It's important to note that the specific rules and requirements can vary between different racing series and classes. Manufacturers may choose to develop and produce the road cars before or during the homologation period. In some cases, racing teams may use provisional homologation status while the road cars are being produced.
$70k for a 3 Cylinders turbo. How insanely overpriced is that?? Is Toyota getting over its head now, over inflated ego on their cars? There are many other cars out there that is better, much more performance spec than what Toyota is offering. I like the MR2 but hell no at $70K. Reasonable starting at Mid 30K, especially considering it only has 3 cylinder with HP in the mere 300 range.
The original (and best) MR2 was a revelation when it came out in 1984/1985 - loved by critics and public alike; sadly its character was lost in the Mk2. The MX5/Miata has survived because of evolution rather than significantly changing a popular format. I had a Mk1 MR2 in the 1980s and absolutely loved it - swapped to a Mk2 in the 1990s and found it disappointing, in comparison to my Mk1. I have a Toyota engined S2 Elise now, which i love and in some ways feels like a hard-core but upmarket MR2. To take the MR2 moniker, and keep the car affordable to justify its name, any new model should look to the Mk1 MR2 and the ND MX5/Miata. Every time i see an ND MX5, i always think it would look stunning if redesigned as a more cabin forward, rear mid-engined car; definitely an MR2 i would buy. Whatever car is being proposed in the multitude of RU-vid videos i keep watching about the alleged new "MR2", the cars being proposed are going to be way, way more expensive than the traditional MR2 niche - perhaps more a GR2? The only one i could see as an MR2 was the alleged Suzuki engined (was it a 1 litre?) rumoured collaboration.
There’s a company with enthusiast cars. Some AWD turbocharged tuner cars & some RWD with 5.0l naturally aspirated v8 engines. It’s Toyota. It’s a good time to be a Toyota fan
Dude... I'd pick a Porsche Boxster over this any day. Especially if the top doesn't come down. It's gotta come in at or around Supra money. No one cares that seriously about Mid-engine. Gonna be some real disappointing sales figures.
I love the MR2, I had a 1991 sw21, it would be a dream to own another 1, but the corvette msrp is 68k... I think 40-45k would be a fair price to ask for an MR2, but 80k for a 3 cylinder? As much as I love MR2s I personally wouldnt make that investment over a V8 for over 10k less
Between Toyota, Honda, and Nissan, we’re re-entering a golden age of JDM enthusiast cars. They have all done their boring commuter car homework, and now they finally get to reap the rewards. I’m proud of all of them. They’re finally giving the people what they want. 👌🏼
That is a funny intro starting out with 2007 having graduated H.S., myself H.S. graduation was 1978 then entered the U.S. Navy for the next 25 years 9 months and retired March 2004. Yeah! strange as it may seem, my 20th year retirement anniversary is nearly here and 47th year since H.S. Graduation. The Toyota MR-2 does bring back a lot of memories when deployed at sea and all the guys talk about thier cars or what they will be buying when we get state side/ done with our tour. For the married guys, it wasn't chatting about cars. How times have changed. So let's hear more about all the wonderful cars you have news on. Kirk, you really strive making the videos interesting and keeping us well informed. Thanks for your RU-vid channel.
10:49 Im in a position to make that buy and id absolutely consider the White MR2 over a Porsche. Hands down. It would need to compete! But the looks are there.
The problem is, at that pricepoint, it isn't going to be better than a Porsche- not by a longshot. I'm a Toyota/Lexus fanboy through and through, but the reality is that the Germans make superior performance machines- most of all, Porsche. This isn't going to be a situation where the Toyota is markedly cheaper and more reliable/cheap to fix in order to make up for that gap/lack of value.
@@sly9263well said. While I loved the 2nd gen MR2 in the 90’s my dream car has always been PORSCHE. The Toyota will not compete in fit, finish, and performance. My 2022 Avalon is a complete piece of crap when it comes to fit and finish.
@@sly9263 Agree. An MR2 isn’t going to compete with a Porsche or Lotus, especially not without costly upgrades, which will just make both a Porsche or Lotus a better value.
@@LuckyCharms777 sure, the Porsche offerings may be better technically, however, from my understanding, some of them no longer have oil dip sticks. that in & of itself would be a deal killer for me. a buddy of mine who was thinking of hunting for a used Boxster discovered this & changed his mind rather quickly. he was thinking about one of the Miatas, but then settled on a Nissan 370Z for a bit more money, but not as much as a Boxter. i also feel comparing MR2 gen 1&2 to #3 as the Spyder is somewhat moot, as the others aren't convertibles, which was my preference. i also read several reports from various sources which all agreed that the Spyder is the best handling of the three. i know i love the handling on mine! ;-)
Pricing is slightly unfortunate but not unexpected. We have the GT86/BRZ then the Supra another step up, so it only makes sense for a new platform to be more expensive or at least above the Supra. The only question would indeed be how many will be sold vs a C8, 718, or any other ~70k car
The turbo model is the closest to this new one that we can come pair price too. If you look at the mrsp of a 1995 turbo it was $29755, run that through the inflation calculator, and you get about $60,000. The price for the new one at 70k isn't that off.
I’ve owned 6 MR2s and Alfa Romeo 4c and now a 2014 Cayman, Drive a Cayman there’s no comparison the Porsche is built rock solid and handles like it’s on rails. However I’m glad Toyota is making it a gas model and look forward to seeing it
The MR-S is actually an amazing performance machine, but only for those who know how to drive it. Most people will not know how to drive it. That's why people underestimate it.
Agree. Automotive journalists actually say it’s the best handling of the three. I’ve been leery of the so-called snap oversteer, but recently have gained more experience pushing my Spyder beyond my comfort levels and it has responded wonderfully.
I was initially excited but then very disappointed after the details were brought out. Being a current Miata (NA) owner and previous Fiat X1/9 owner, the MR2 has always held a very dear spot in my heart. I've always hoped it would return. After all, the Miata needs a sibling. However, MR2 and $70,000 is a recipe for failure. Nobody is going to pay that much for an "MR2". If this vehicle is going to succeed and compete against other high performance sports cars like the Lotus's Ferrari's, Lambo's etc. at that price, they're going to have to call it the FT-Se or FT-SGR since it's not electric, or whatever. Anything but MR2. The MR2 as you said is a "Mid-ship runabout 2 seater" and shares the same limelight as the Miata. I don't think anybody will pay $70,000 for a Miata either. The MR2 was developed to be a dependable sports for the masses, just as the Miata was. I was really hoping to see Toyota bring back the MR2, but in hybrid form. I own a 2018 Toyota Camry with the 2.5l hybrid engine. It puts out 208 hp and is very responsive and powerful, especially in Sport mode. I've always said that if Toyota would put this powertrain in a lightweight mid-ship 2 seater platform like the MR2, it would be the ultimate go-cart and be a ball to drive. What an amazingly fun car that would be! MR2's and Miata's have always been adult go-carts for the road, but an MR2 with the 2.5l hybrid powerplant would blow the current Miata and prior MR2 away in every category hands down. Plus, if I can get 50 mpg with that hybrid powertrain in my Camry, there's no reason why it wouldn't deliver 60 mpg in a low lightweight aerodynamic platform like the MR2. AND, it could be produced for around $40,000, keeping it competitive with the Miata and in the "proper" price range for the "MR2" name tag. Mazda is working on a rotary hybrid powertrain for the next Miata that you can even use to power your house with in the event of a power outage. Toyota would do well to follow that thinking and bring the Miata's cousin back to the table. THAT would be inline with the needs of this day and age and would indeed be a recipe for success!
Yikes! My twin?? lol😂 I’ve owned 3 Miata’s n now a prht. Owned countless Fiats n owned a 75’ X19 for years and was a joy to drive when it ran. I learned lots on that car but never like my xjs v12 jag as she was wicked. 850, 124, sunbeam alpine, & then bought a new iroc z28 in 88. Terrible build quality as was my 95 vette. Was always intrigued by mr2 n their envious tho well deserved rep for reliability n durability. I’m 64 & here in the Bay Area-some Porsches running around but not alotta sports car enthusiasts sadly. Stay safe👍🏆
@@mauricesoulis1590 Wow, what a rich heritage of fun cars you have in your background! I haven't had near that many fun cars. My first was when I was 17. It was a 67 Olds 442 convertable. I had a lot of fun with that car. Loved the wind in my hair which is one of the reasons I love the Miata so much. Wish I still had that Olds. Then later in life I got a 82 Toyota Supra which was a lot of fun too. Then a 79 Fiat X19, followed by the 93 Miata which I still have to this day. The Miata is the most fun car I've ever owned. It's a real twisty road carver. Although the X19 was a close second. I think that if Mazda gets that rotary hybrid in the Miata it will bring a resurgence to the sports car market due to the marked performance/efficiency improvements, especially if they keep it affordable. Hopefully Toyota will follow suit with a fun and affordable MR2 hybrid. I mean if that 2.5l hybrid can make a Camry fun to drive, I can only imagine what it would be like behind your back in a MR2 chassis! It would be like riding a snow mobile or jet ski. Just mash and go! Woo Hoooo! 🤠 No upsetting your body bracing to get your leg on a clutch, no letting go of the steering wheel to grab a shift lever, just brace yourself, keep both hands on the steering wheel, use precise throttle modulation with your right foot and hang on! You'll be carving twisty mountain roads like nobodies business, much like a super bike. I can already feel the wind in my hair! (Hopefully the MR2 will have a targa top lol!) Sports car popularity seems to come and go in waves. The Miata got the wave going again in 89 after a long lull when it first came out. And I'm starting to see the water swelling up again as the next wave is starting to build. If they do it right, hopefully we'll be able to say "Surf's Up!" soon and hop on board! 😃🌊
Great coverage as always, Kirk! A mid-engine competitor that might cause some potential MR2 fans pause is the 2024 Corvette that starts at a hair under $70k. I know it's a totally different kind of beast and I don't believe it's going to provide the same level of reliability as either the new MR2 or Porsche Cayman, but it provides supercar levels of performance and styling that would certainly cause me to give it a look. Having spent a lot of time with various Toyota-powered Lotus models over the years, however, the MR2 would have to be brilliant in order to win against the new Emira, despite it's likely less reliable MB-AMG powerplant. Decisions, decisions... it's nice to have options, though, right?
@@Uno_Floydd Please read again. I actually gave Toyota kudos twice in my comment, the first being, 1) "I don't believe it's [the Corvette] going to provide the same level of reliability as either the new MR2 or Porsche Cayman" and 2) "new Emira, despite it's likely less reliable MB-AMG powerplant". Nothing else to say
@@Uno_Floydd How about reading the original comment thoroughly first, and then after understanding what was said, not making a comment at all? That would have been smarter than your lame ego trip response to being wrong.
I nearly spat my drink at the price. No no no a million times no. There's no justifying 68K for a 1.6L TOYOTA!!! That's more than their own base Supra! And sticking to mid-engine cars, a base Cayman costs 69K and 1) that base trim has a 2.7L not a 1.6 and 2) it's A PORSCHE! The new base Corvette is mid-engine, had almost 500hp, and also casts 68K!!! Toyota should have targeted an MSRP of 45-49K. 68 is just nuts 🤦🏽♂️
@@WhatisaLeeFacts. But overall, the average person would choose c8 over mr2. Most ppl just wanna go fast. But if toyota isn't concerned with selling tons of units, then they could win at their own game.
I use to love the early 90’s twin turbo MR2 my family had Toyota dealership and I loved that car. Toyota does this right which I’m sure they will I’m an owner.
10:09 Facinating. What a switch from the 90's in that the MR2 would be top dog on the TOyota line w/ the Supra falling mid pack and what? They keep the 86? Or 86 it for something else? 😆
@lIllIlllIlIllIlllIlIllIlllIl mounting the engine in the rear (both in front of the axle or behind) is not some engineering challenge. Side by sides, tuk tuks, Smart for two, or even the cheapest car in the world the Tata Nano put the engine behind the driver. OG MR2 wasn't luxury car price at that time either. From an engineering point of view Miata size, performance and cost MR car is absolutely possible. The only concern is whether it can possibly be a low margin high volume car. Sports cars have shrunk in volume drastically, so most of them have gone the route of high margin low volume.
How does this compare to the Alfa Romeo 4C? Although not made anymore, it's a small engine turbo single deck lid, mid-engine car that was at the same price point
I unironically thought you were being sarcastic when you struggled to name another mid-engine car at $70k. That's the 2024 C8's starting price. Big reason I have C8 is because I wanted an "affordable" mid-engine car again after having a Mk2 MR2 2.2L, Mk2 MR2 Turbo, and MR-S in the late 2000s and always follow news for a new one. Big selling point for the C8 is it's benchmarked against and closely matches the 458 (my dream car) in performance and design specs. I'm open to switching it out to a $70k MR2 but that's highly unlikely unless Toyota gives me a stronger selling point than the C8's selling point of being matched to my dream car.
I've yet to drive a C8... I currently own a 2gr swapped 94 mr2.. I've owned several... My biggest concern with the c8 is visibility... How have you found it compared to your other cars?
@@ryshask it does have the worst rearward and rear quarter visibility of any car I've driven with a back window. You'd want the rear view camera which is now standard on all 2024+ models. I don't have it on my 2023 1LT but can manage by angling my mirrors correctly with convex mirror attachments so there are no blindspots.
Loving the fact that its at least still a possibility. But with a 1.3 3 cyl this shouldn't be in the same cost range or class of a Cayman or Emira. This is a class below. If its 60k++ its gonna flop. I'd say this should start at the very tip top range of a Miata... so what like mid 40s?
Kirk, you're not starting to get old. You're aging like a fine wine, more delicious every day. The first rendering is stunning but I hate the high beltline which restricts vision and light through the side windows. I don't like the second rendering but I do like the lower beltline. With a more open and airy cabin, it's less claustrophobic than the first rendering.
Trust me that single deck is the best choice for future upgrades or engine swap. I would've done two-three variant for those who wants the single deck and double deck.
The C8 Corvette starts at around $70k. Cheapest used ones are around $60k. Mid engine, 500hp, and overall it's a fantastic car and reviews are more than solid. It has it's haters, but it's the best bargain out there. Hence why they are now selling over 40,000 a year with an average transaction price of right above $100k. Chevrolet hit a home run with the C8.
8:20 LOL i dont think thats true Kirk. GM recently invested several hundred million back into ICE dev. The BEV surge is over and now you have automakers putting money back into ICE. Toyota is bullish on hybrid which requires ICE. They still will continue to have a customer base who wants ICE sports cars if they can meet emissions. When they make statements like "THIS IS IT" Look to the past when companies make bold statements which never pan out to be true. My point is Toyota will continue to develop ICE into the foreseeable future and this will not be the last. Id be dollars to donuts on that.
Just an FYI: those renders are unofficial renders done by the magazine. It's pure speculation on their part, the same as when Car and Driver or some other western car magazine puts out renders on what a new car may look like. This isn't an inside scoop on what the car may look like or the designs Toyota is considering. You can see clearly that these renders are just a mashup of elements pulled from different cars. The white render for instance took heavy inspiration from the Ferrari SF90.
That is so dumb. $68,000 is absolutely way too much money. Defeats the entire purpose of the MR2. Still to this day the late 80s and early 90s was the golden era of average people being able to afford sports cars. Now you have to be quite wealthy to afford one. Every sports car has been priced into the strata. So sad to see that there really aren’t any affordable sports cars anymore. .
No disrespect to the MR2, but a base C8 Corvette is also $68k. I would probably buy the MR2 because it comes with a manual gearbox, but it's hard to justify the price. It's basically a mid-engine GR Yaris. Toyota would need to adjust that price accordingly.
I had a 93' MR2 Turbo....Loved the car. I've had many cars...Elise, Z06, GT500, Alfa 4C, etc...right now have a 987.2 Cayman S and love it. Goldilocks car...There is no way in hell I would buy the Toyota over the Porsche if the price is similar. I'd love to have another MR2 if its made right but it needs to be in a lower price bracket to compete.
I owned an MR 2 2004 it was the best car i ever owned and it was very very reliable good on gas it followed my commands right on , i miss that car so much the price was very good 22,000 thousand dollars used ..... the new MR 2 is beautiful but at 67,000 thousand how many people can afford that now with inflation the price of things going up i also saw on an another video that the new MR 2 would be between 24,000 to 31,000 hopefully things will be better with the price ....
I am excited for the new MR2, just hope I live long enough to see it happen. I currently race a highly modified 2000 MRS in Asia, which in stock form was like racing a rock, but is now viable after mods. The only drawback is that it is no longer street legal. So I would love to test drive a new one for the street in the U.S.
I like the previous rumors, the ones saying the new mr2 will basically be a Kei car/MX5 competitor and cheap. I want something like the Volkswagen XL Sport concept. The LFA 2 doesn’t need a DCT since it doesn’t have a high revving engine, an 8 speed (ZF8) will do just fine. I mean look at the G8X’s and new Vantage.
In terms of price, it was Supra > Celica All Trac ~ MR2 Turbo > Corolla GT-S. The All Trac was slightly more expensive than the MR2 Turbo. If Toyota decides to keep this same hierarchy, the new MR2 should be around the price of the GR Corolla. The Supra has long been the halo car. I cant imagine they would change that to the MR2, especially if they only use the i3 out of the GR Corolla. Having had an MR2 for about 20 years now, it's really not bad to work on. Some front-engined cars are much worse to work on. I wish they would use the 2GR-FE for those glorious V6 sounds, though.
There are 2 Dragons guarding the MR sports car market segment, they are called Boxster and Cayman. You do get a lot for a 70K 718, handling, luxury, horsepower, and a prestige Badge. If Toyota can't heavily outdo the Porsche MR cars, or heavily undercut the prices, it's going to be a tough sell.
Kirk, what a great channel you run. This MR2 seems likely to be a superb car. However, at twice the price of the last one, it doesn’t appear to be a genuine successor. Btw, if you’ve ever specd a Porsche you’ll know you should add at least 25% to the base price to get to reasonable car. It makes searching for used one extremely irritating as so many have something missing you really want. That won’t happen with the Toyota; and the Toyota will be much cheaper to maintain.
BestCar specifically said the MR2 will be a limited-edition special for JDM only. They don't have the capability to mass-produce the new MR2 (at least now) because it depends on the parts availability of the Yaris GRMN, which could be very tight given the strong demand for that car. That's the reason why the price is so high. It will be very rare and the Yaris GRMN already costs 8.5 million yen. So cost-wise the MR2 is ~18% higher than the Yaris GRMN. Now if the GR Yaris/Corolla lineup stays strong sales wise and they expand their production capacity, there is a slim chance the MR2 becomes a global mass-produced model. In that case we can expect pricing in the low 50k USD or even high 40k.
The MR2 speculation actually makes a lot of sense. The 1995 MR2 turbo (not the cheaper, non-turbo version) MSRP'd for about $29K, which is about $60K in today's dollars. I say expect a low $50K MSRP, which lands a new MR2 between the 2.0L and 3.0L Supras. Yes, the GR Corolla sits in the low $40K range, but features a retrofitted Corolla interior. If Toyota's gonna make a cheaper sports car, they'll wait until the partnership with Subaru ends, then Toyota will put a non-turbo version of the 3-cylinder in that chassis.
I had an MRS with 425 horse power on it. It was a beast. Glad to see this car come back. LFA will be irrelevant as it will be out of reach for almost everyone wallet.
I'm glad they are not using EV power for the new MR2. Makes perfect sense to go with the 1.6 turbo 3 cylinder. It will basically have the wheelbase and curb weight of the GR86, but with a more rear biased weight distribution and more power. Very exciting stuff - I just really wish they would have a targa/t-top option. To me that is what stands out about the 1st and 2nd gen MR2 - aside from the affordable mid-engine design. If it comes in at $70k or more (with likely dealer mark-ups) I don't think I could justify this over a used Cayman/Boxster. Still have to hand it to Toyota for having the cojones to make a car like this.
If it does come out and its under $70k ill go and buy one 100%... I love my 88 SC mr2 so much and have driven many of the other generations but the mk1 has been my favorite. Would 10/10 buy a new one of these over a porshe.
I had a 91 mr2 and it was a fun little car but not as great a handling car as everyone made it out to be. In competition there was better in its class. The 91 had a crazy snap oversteer problem that would happen at seemingly random times. Right after the apex of a corner when you'd start feeding the power the thing would just snap around on you out of nowhere. I had a couple saves with that car on the road and the track. Id I hadn't been in Karting my whole childhood before I drove that car, I definitely would have lost control and wrecked it...
One of my most favourite cars that I owned was my 1985 MR2. I had it in my late teens early twenties. I think the product choices for this new one like potentially offering manual, gas only, and mid engine are perfect for a car like this. 2 things that i think would be mistakes for Toyota would be to 1) limiting the numbers and 2) making it a 3 cylinder. I think a big chunk of the target market for this car would be people such as myself (high income earning years with disposable income) So paying $70k would not be a problem. But I would not pay $70k for a 3 cylinder no matter how tuned up it is. For the North America market the 3 cylinder does not make sense in my opinion. The bigger mistake however, in my opinion would be making this in limited numbers so that it becomes a collectors only car. If this is a final "celebration" then build one for everyone who will buy one. The purpose of the halo car is to elevate the brand and build goodwill. Frustrating people who would like to buy this car with limits, dealer markups and making them impossible to get will do the opposite. Let Lexus have the collectors car. In the 2000s when Toyota stopped making sports cars I stopped buying Toyotas. I would probably have bought other Toyota SUVs etc if I didn't feel like the brand abandoned enthusiasts at the time. For this car I could come back to Toyota if they make it a true enthusiasts celebration car for people who will drive them, share them, enjoy them, show them. To do this you need to be able to buy one without feeling like you got screwed. When you buy one of these cars you want to feel like Toyota appreciates your business and the enthusiast buyer. The current trend of screwing enthusiasts by making special models impossible to get unless you are a rich collector is harming car culture.
I won’t believe a 4th gen MR2 until I see it. I really hope they keep it between the GRC and Supra for price. Thats how it’s always been and I think it’s a good formula for success.
$68K? That better be a stellar performer. That's Boxster / Cayman territory and well above current Supra / Nissan Z prices. EDIT: I did not know you were going to go into that...Hahahaha. That said, I grew up a Nissan nut and swore by JDM. Meanwhile, I currently daily a Cayman. I'm not sure I would go back for those same prices. The manufacture of Porsche really is that much better, IMO, that prices being equal I'll take the German engineering.
I like the white one, looks a lot like an LFA up front. I hope they go in that direction. I had a 92 mr2 and put over 200k miles on it with no issues. I miss that car. On that note , I will not pay 70k for a new one. I would rather get a new corvette.
I was so excited...then you talked price...even if its $50K, thats nuts...$65K for a THREE-cylinder engine when for a little more I can get a brand new MT-BMW M2...Even the Japanese car-loving nostalgic need-for-speed-fast-and-furious-tokyo-drift-kid in me can't justify that price. I really hope it comes in at a more reasonable price point (Honestly I think 35-45K would be fair)
Idk if I'd take it over a corvette c8 with a starting msrp of around 70k with 495 hp. I mean who would? Maybe I'll be a tad bit more luxurious. Maybe a lil more reliable after warranty....but man....310hp vs 495hp? Only DIEHARD fans of Toyota would go with mr2 over c8. But i WILL say this. If the mr2 looks anything like the renders, it WILL be a better looking car to most people's eyes more than likely.
for $68k it would lineup with the C8 Stingray, which would be a pretty uneven competition. yeah the MR2 is 500lbs lighter according to the article, but its also 190hp less.
$68000 with the lil 3 cylinder will not sell. I'm a huge MR2 guy. I daily drove a MK1 for over 20 years. Toyota needs to develop this as a much cheaper vehicle. It should be in the Miata price range.
Yeah i remember the year you graduated high school. That was epic. I Graduated in 96, that was epic af to tho. 100. Nothing but love, keep it real, werd. Pro tip, mouth open selfies are tough to deal with.
Kirk, the prior gen MR2 was significantly more expensive than the last Gen. I think it was likely at least $28k and think it may have gone as high as $32k. When I think of MR2, I personally really think of the second to last generation. I hope you enjoyed your time in Marana. I live close to where you were staying. I love the desert. Be well. :)