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The shock Mercedes/F1 allegations and FIA investigation explained 

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@ivanperez301
@ivanperez301 10 месяцев назад
5 second penalty for Ocon.
@pitchforkmechanic7797
@pitchforkmechanic7797 10 месяцев назад
Are you kidding!? 10s at least.
@stryker1992
@stryker1992 10 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@watersnortmoment3734
@watersnortmoment3734 10 месяцев назад
@pitchforkmechanic7797 Nah, just black flag him
@digitaldeathsquid3448
@digitaldeathsquid3448 10 месяцев назад
Massa has a drive-thru penalty.
@petat13
@petat13 10 месяцев назад
Lol😂
@Echo-cx2gk
@Echo-cx2gk 10 месяцев назад
What I don't understand is how people need proof of misconduct before calling this a conflict of interest. A conflict of interest happens when there's potential for insider misconduct. Susie and Toto can share confidential info over breakfast without leaving a record, and it only occurred to someone just now to think it could be problematic?
@MeltingRubberZ28
@MeltingRubberZ28 10 месяцев назад
Thank-you
@adalsegu9670
@adalsegu9670 10 месяцев назад
well you cant just accuse someone of something without showing proof that it happened, generally speaking. Toto wasnt the one who appointed his wife to F1A Boss
@jeffcanfixit
@jeffcanfixit 10 месяцев назад
Well said!! 👍👍
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 10 месяцев назад
@@adalsegu9670 That is what a conflict of interest means. It's not to accuse someone of being guilty, it's to prevent anything from happening. If anything, the proof is they are married to each other, which is a "conflict" of interest. If you think certain referees should excuse themself from calling any games related to their nationality, why do you use double standard here? A conflict of interest is a statement of the fact about the relationship between two parties, not an accusation of illegal action.
@R4sKal
@R4sKal 10 месяцев назад
@@adalsegu9670 Everybody here seems to think it was FOM intel that got leaked. In the initial allegation there was talk of undisclosed intel of a team principal's meeting making it to the FOM, not the other way around. Susie Stoddart's appointment was always going to be a conflict of interest, especially should those allegations turn out to be true.
@shaunmclaughlin5167
@shaunmclaughlin5167 10 месяцев назад
Toto: No FIA no! That was so not right! FIA: It’s called an allegation Toto, ok? We went compliance investigating.
@thepolishnz
@thepolishnz 10 месяцев назад
Muhammad I sent you an email
@exoticsio
@exoticsio 10 месяцев назад
This is getting manipulated!
@993mike
@993mike 10 месяцев назад
Toto getting info from his wife to benefit his team illegally? Shocker!! There is NOTHING that Toto won’t do to get back to winning.
@flintstone1409
@flintstone1409 10 месяцев назад
@@thepolishnz I have it printed out!
@khasmir666
@khasmir666 10 месяцев назад
Even the slightest insinuation can be enough to bring honest people down.
@whassupg89
@whassupg89 10 месяцев назад
Well it gives Twitter something to argue about in the off season doesn’t it
@commanderlewisskipperton8721
@commanderlewisskipperton8721 10 месяцев назад
Thank Senna I'm not part of Twitter's sh*tfest.
@MyRealName
@MyRealName 10 месяцев назад
@@commanderlewisskipperton8721 All internet can be a shitfest, it's up to you what you indulge in. At least on twitter you can truly control what content you have access to and what people's BS you can fully avoid.
@jonb3311
@jonb3311 10 месяцев назад
Off season bollocks. Don't help when the FIA is run by an arse.
@solitaryclusterofneurons598
@solitaryclusterofneurons598 10 месяцев назад
@@MyRealName Yeah, by blocking and/or muting virtually everyone on that site. It's almost as if some of us have figured out a forum which thrives on sensationalism isn't worth navigating at all.
@fruitygranulizer540
@fruitygranulizer540 10 месяцев назад
i've already seen a shit ton of angry fans calling out RedBull for being scumbags when they, too, released the statement that they did not give the FIA any information. I'm sick of seeing childish names like Karen Horner
@warracer03
@warracer03 10 месяцев назад
FIA ''hey we're doing an investigation'' Wolff '' Hey I didn`t do shit you hate women'' Mercedes '' We didn't do it'' F1 ''They didn't do it , plus you should say when you do an investigation'' FIA... We never said who was concerned...
@chipiegg1466
@chipiegg1466 10 месяцев назад
tbf they did say enough for an news outlet who does some research to connect them, not that many team principals out there....
@oxrevsiexo
@oxrevsiexo 10 месяцев назад
Just because they weren’t named publicly doesn’t mean they weren’t informed of the ‘disciplinary hearing’ prior to a statement being released to the media.
@isabellthreesixty
@isabellthreesixty 10 месяцев назад
@@chipiegg1466 The fact that it's so obvious and easy to connect should already raise the conflicts of interest red flags lol
@chipiegg1466
@chipiegg1466 10 месяцев назад
i never said that it wasn't a conflict of interest though :)@@isabellthreesixty
@isabellthreesixty
@isabellthreesixty 10 месяцев назад
@@chipiegg1466 I know, I'm just agreeing with you essentially
@satanswolf
@satanswolf 10 месяцев назад
Rumors are, during a TP's meeting TW shared some information all the other TP's did not know about. This raised suspicion and the FIA was tipped to look into the matter.
@ThatoneFRC
@ThatoneFRC 10 месяцев назад
TW also informed Redbull that they were over the cost cap before CH even knew.
@CunningStuntsGoFast
@CunningStuntsGoFast 10 месяцев назад
yeah to be more precise toto told horner in a heated argument how much redbull overpend before redbull knew they go acused of overspending .
@vandalsgarage
@vandalsgarage 10 месяцев назад
The cost cap breach was via Shaila Rao, who was quietly let go after that story broke. Rao was a former Toto Wolff aide, who too a senior position with the FIA
@alias19
@alias19 10 месяцев назад
@@vandalsgarage Confirming TW’s historic role in illicit communications. There’s only one option here: Susie Wolff must be removed by F1 from any position of importance, Toto must be personally and substantially sanctioned by FIA.
@jessez8503
@jessez8503 10 месяцев назад
​@@ThatoneFRCSusie didn't even work for FOM when info about the cost cap breach was leaked. She was team principle of a FormulaE team, she got her role with FOM in March this year. Over 9 months after the cost cap saga
@Alcatraz760
@Alcatraz760 10 месяцев назад
While I don't think Susie doesn't has any info on F1 regs, when Merc showed up with components that were just made legal on that day in Canada, that is crazy suspicious.
@ChristianRodriguez-xv5qg
@ChristianRodriguez-xv5qg 10 месяцев назад
Interesting
@Doubie.
@Doubie. 10 месяцев назад
@@ChristianRodriguez-xv5qgif they were pushing for it to be legal it could honestly have just been hopefulness building it before they pushed for it becoming legal to test
@lukavujeva6584
@lukavujeva6584 10 месяцев назад
😂 there is a regulations book, they have team of people constantly studying it, in order to be compliant. They don’t need Susie to enlighten engineers about bits and pieces, neither she has that info. On the other hand, it’s like a law,, tax law etc.,anyone can invest time and learn what they need.
@TheBrucifer
@TheBrucifer 10 месяцев назад
That happens often. Not just Merc. All teams are involved in the moulding of regs before they become well.. regs.
@adamseckel7480
@adamseckel7480 10 месяцев назад
My dudes Susie Wolf didn’t have that job until March 2023. You’re talking about Canada 2022. smh
@vasekkosar3931
@vasekkosar3931 10 месяцев назад
What I don't understand is, it would always be a conflict of interest. So why wasn't this thought of earlier? Why was Susie elected to be the head of F1 Academy (or whatever her exact title is) without this possibility being addressed? I mean, it doesn't take much thinking to realize that this may be a conflict of interest.
@bassistmike1987
@bassistmike1987 10 месяцев назад
Perhaps the benefits outweighed any negatives.
@hishamhilal8332
@hishamhilal8332 10 месяцев назад
Susie married into it from the very beginning, that is her career in a nutshell. Yes it was always conflict of interests, but I guess now that Mercedes power/influence is dropping, people are questioning it more.
@rileyfair5
@rileyfair5 10 месяцев назад
My question is how the f1 manager of merc and someone in a completely different league would have to share that's sooooooo critical to the sport. It's sad people can't have a relationship cuz of people like yall
@rileyfair5
@rileyfair5 10 месяцев назад
​@bassistmike1987 or nothing really happened and everyone is being over dramatic about this 😂😂
@vasekkosar3931
@vasekkosar3931 10 месяцев назад
@@rileyfair5 She's connected to the FIA itself, she CAN get the info (not saying she did). That's what makes it a conflict of interest. Not if it actually happened but the fact it can happen. That's why, in football for example, referee from Poland won't be appointed for Poland's games...
@dibdab101
@dibdab101 10 месяцев назад
While they`re at it they could investigate how Toto got to know about the cost cap breaches before anyone else did, and also how Mercedes magically produced the "double floor stays" at the drop of a hat in Canada when the FIA issued the technical directive....and the role that Shaila-Ann Rao played in all that, considering she "left" just six months after beeing appointed.
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 10 месяцев назад
That with the tyre tests and no repercussions not even a fine
@dibdab101
@dibdab101 10 месяцев назад
@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 yep... And the fact that the 2014 regulations for hybrid engines was based on technology that Mercs had been working on since 2007... The list goes on 🙄
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 10 месяцев назад
​@@dibdab101 Funny story.. F1 isn't even the first time Merc has pulled this shit. Mercedes CLK GTR, was based on a Mclaren F1, privately bought, tested, crashed and resold, only the engine was original.
@raymond_rayder
@raymond_rayder 10 месяцев назад
Yep. Toto pretty much told on himself when he start blabbing about Red Bull breaching the cost cap before anybody else even knew about it. The Canada floor stays thing was insane... they were so embarrassed by how blatant it was that they took them off the car! People who try to project the most holier-than-thou image are typically the dodgiest people of all.
@thelarry383
@thelarry383 10 месяцев назад
@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 There were repercussions. Actually read the penalty report. Lots of misinformation and assumption based conclusions between you two in this thread lmao
@102Help
@102Help 10 месяцев назад
The unprompted defense and Susie trying to deflect the allegations under the bullshit guise of “misogyny” proves unequivocally that something sketchy has been going on
@Clynikal
@Clynikal 10 месяцев назад
I guess the same application of misogyny also applies to Toto given the information was allegedly shared both ways. It’s perfect how feminists have completely devalued their most powerful word.
@RENO_K
@RENO_K 10 месяцев назад
well the FIA has been trying to take jabs at the paddock for a while now, teams are losing interest in the FIA they've been trying to claw back at any chance they can get to assert dominance a lot of petty-ness
@dylanisbored.
@dylanisbored. 10 месяцев назад
@102Help My thoughts exactly. Distracts the conversation and puts pressure onto the FIA to drop it. Why someone would appoint the wife of one the most influential team principals on the grid to such a position is what should get looked at, so obvious it's a conflict of interest.
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 10 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠@@RENO_Kif by ‘a while now’ you mean the last 40 years. This nothing new. It is the way the sport has been at least since Bernie started running it is when the politics ramped up massively.
@travisfubu9053
@travisfubu9053 10 месяцев назад
Investigation dropped all teams denied keep coping LOL
@valonberchtold
@valonberchtold 10 месяцев назад
If Susie is already playing the misogyny card you know they're nervous
@SpatialGuy77
@SpatialGuy77 10 месяцев назад
Do you ever think before you post dumbass stuff like that?
@SpartanArmy117
@SpartanArmy117 10 месяцев назад
This exactly. I can unerstand defending yourself and maybe even doing that overly aggressively, but to pull out the identity card makes me really think there's something there.
@ross-carlson
@ross-carlson 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, I mean I'm positive she's never had to deal with that in racing before. Riiiiiiight.
@thelarry383
@thelarry383 10 месяцев назад
when a white woman complains, things change
@charliehill8068
@charliehill8068 10 месяцев назад
Honestly, not at all...she's entirely right to make that assertion - this accusation is almost entirely distilling her role at FOM down to a simple funnel to her husband toto, and not viewing her as an independent professional capable of keeping her own standards required for fulfilling the requirements of her job. But we shall see how the result turns out I guess...
@fabianobenedetti6692
@fabianobenedetti6692 10 месяцев назад
Having such situation, hence wife and husband creating a potential conflict of interest, is already a sign that the "ethical" aspect of the rules in place in these organizations is to be considered as of secondary importance...
@TheChannel1978
@TheChannel1978 10 месяцев назад
I don't know if ethics was ever a thing in F1. If you think about what goes on the track even, many world champions rammed other contenders off the road. It's total competition at all costs. It's also about total competition for money and making more money. It's pretty disgusting thb, I only follow F1 on youtube cause all the millionnaires and billionairs in the sports surely don't need my money [from ticket sales or pay TV]. The sport is way too dirty for me to support that and it's getting worse by the look of it. Sports washing is the latest it seems, and going to countries where human rights abuses are just normal. Meanwhile profits are soaring for F1. Mission accomplished?
@HUMC5
@HUMC5 10 месяцев назад
Michael Masi, Horner's boyfriend, also created a conflict of interest.
@bkbaughn
@bkbaughn 10 месяцев назад
I'm sorry but with such a generic statement by the FIA for Susie to use the term "misogynistic" is a stretch and a bit telling...
@christianbarraza2899
@christianbarraza2899 10 месяцев назад
Well she's not responding to just the statement. She's also responding to the rumors on other media outlets that led to the FIA statement.
@gordin2044
@gordin2044 10 месяцев назад
The misogynistic remark is not for the statement by the FIA. The rumors apparently come from the same site that said the F1 Academy drivers (where a lot of drivers are underage) should use the sex appeal of the drivers and that they should "use sex to sell themselves". You can read up the article by buisnessf1, if you like more details. It made quite the headlines. The same magazine that had to the pay thousands in a libel case against an f1 employee and that stated Lewis Hamilton plays the race card all the time. So not a very good source.
@charleswalker3781
@charleswalker3781 10 месяцев назад
Toto isn't just a TP. He's a team owner. Really bad judgment on the part of Susie and Toto. Even the most basic compliance courses in almost any corporation underline the importance of avoiding a conflict of interest. If these allegations are true, Toto looks pretty silly having made such a big fuss, at the time, because it kinda gives away the fact there was a conflict of interest.
@florisbackx1744
@florisbackx1744 10 месяцев назад
Oh and manager of several drivers including drivers on the grid at competitors teams.
@Wouldpkr
@Wouldpkr 10 месяцев назад
seems to be a decision on par with the whole of the season. just another bad decision. Its the season that keeps on giving. ^^5 seconds for Ocon indeed! lol
@BigDickMark
@BigDickMark 10 месяцев назад
Ours say even the appearance of a conflict of interest is problematic..
@NotKimiRaikkonen1
@NotKimiRaikkonen1 10 месяцев назад
That's why they did it. Because he has a potential to earn hundreds of millions off of her secrets.
@Lewythefly
@Lewythefly 10 месяцев назад
Even if they haven't traded secrets or done anything wrong to date, it is still a conflict of interest so Susie should never have eligible for that position
@norbertjanssen814
@norbertjanssen814 10 месяцев назад
The same thing happened with the costcap surrounding Red Bull where Toto knew before anyone else, and with the regulations surrounding the floor and a second support mount which Mercedes already had designed. At that time it was Shaila Rao who leaked confidential information but it wasn´t made public or in to something by the media. Because it was Mercedes, a car company like Ferrari who sometimes get away with these kinds of things because they don´t want bad publicity and F1 doesn´t want to make the car company´s angry because they depend on the car company´s. When Mercedes started dominating with there engines they also got the information two years before any other team. It´s always the same with Toto and Mercedes and since Lauda has died it has become worse and worse.
@praveentitus7193
@praveentitus7193 10 месяцев назад
If that's the case, Mercedes should be stripped of its titles!
@baclava69
@baclava69 10 месяцев назад
Spot on!!! Merc have disgraced the sport.
@JakeM218
@JakeM218 10 месяцев назад
Toto openly stated that each team has a finance director who hold regular meetings with the FIA and the other finance directors in a group setting. Red Bull’s finance director questioned and raised concerns about certain elements, and so the Mercedes finance director reported this back to Toto as it was a group meeting. Toto even said on one TV interview that Christian Horner should ask his finance director about the issues he raised. As for the metal brace, Mercedes were pushing for the ability to run this, so there is a very high chance that they’d already designed this part, but even if they hadn’t - it was a metal brace drilled and screwed through their carbon bodywork (which hadn’t changed). It would have likely taken someone half an hour at most to drill 2 holes and attach this metal brace to stop the floor flapping about.
@pixelomega3042
@pixelomega3042 10 месяцев назад
It’s really disappointing that Susie immediately played the “they hate me cause I’m a woman” card, as it is evidently not the case, and for her to say that her marital status isn’t part of this is ridiculous. Normally it wouldn’t be, but she’s married to the boss of a front running team.
@rossdark713
@rossdark713 10 месяцев назад
And not to mention he owns 33% of that team.
@TheChannel1978
@TheChannel1978 10 месяцев назад
A convenient excuse albeit a cheap one
@trackman07
@trackman07 10 месяцев назад
🤡
@hecksters423
@hecksters423 10 месяцев назад
Yeah. You're supposed to use the M-card when the ACTUAL investigation happens 🤣🤣🤣
@altonbreunissen1243
@altonbreunissen1243 10 месяцев назад
Wat other reason could it b tho? Fia had all the information in terms ot their relationship status.... Totos position etc etc, yet they(FIA) still put her in that position,but now their sudden stance does look fishy as in mayb susie couldnt handle n seperate professional from personal.... That is undermining considering nothin has changed from toto n susie. N unfortunately for FIA 'conflict of interest' is very rich from them considering jonathan wheatley n micheal masi were well documented pals wen that wjole debacle took place, yet they were as ease wit it does open them up to being prejudice coz a woman is involved now imo, wats ur thoughts as im not downplaying ur view just talkin from a susie n merc pov. Thanx
@farminglol
@farminglol 10 месяцев назад
So Toto and Susie couldn't share information they both got from the FIA and were expected to just not talk about it to each other. Doesn't take a genius to expect this to not work for one second. If I was the FIA, I would expect everything I share to one party to end up at the other end in less than 12 hours, no matter what the NDA says about that. That's just reality.
@zsfekete5211
@zsfekete5211 10 месяцев назад
No.... Susie shouldn't share information she got from F1 by her being part of F1 management or just staff. Not FIA. F1. 2 different things. Doesn't take a genius to know the difference....
@DanishAZ-mp7tm
@DanishAZ-mp7tm 10 месяцев назад
or maybe keep the info to yourself? but the that's the issue, a conflict in interest
@jessez8503
@jessez8503 10 месяцев назад
Susie doesn't work for the FIA she works for FOM. She runs F1 academy a spec series that's lower than F4. If they're sharing F1 FIA info with her that their fault. Why would she need access to that info in her role?
@karlbauer4398
@karlbauer4398 10 месяцев назад
that's a you issue. Me and my partner both work on 2 different sides of financial law and we manage perfectly fine to not share information. I would expect the same from any other professional, which both of them clearly ar
@zvezdanjasovic3185
@zvezdanjasovic3185 10 месяцев назад
Mate you know the inner structure of FIA? Have you worked there? The point is information has been leaked to Toto two times so obviously. First time was that second stay rod which Mercedes miraculously had on their car less than 24 hours after FIA announced it. All of that during a Grand Prix. Second time was when Toto was condemning RB for breaching cost cap and was calling for harsh punishment a week before FIA came out with official information. Even then FIA mentioned how they was gonna investigate about that, and now when they are doing that Toto is like “really? How dare they” So she’s clearly in a position to get that information, therefore there’s an investigation going at the moment.
@kemsat-n6h
@kemsat-n6h 10 месяцев назад
This is a surprise? When my wife told me about this little fact, I immediately said “that’s a conflict of interest,” and now here we are. I’m shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.
@richardn3387
@richardn3387 10 месяцев назад
I'm curious what super secret information was passed. Drivers in Academy are years away from an F1 seat. Unless Merc is expanding their young drivers program and is getting track data or who else is prospecting talent. The cars are spec so it's not like they're gifting break ducts. Sponsorship money, maybe? Merc wants to put their name on it but not overbid by too much? I am genuinely curious how they've colluded. And if they did, how they plan to catch Susie leaving her laptop open on Toto's desk.
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 10 месяцев назад
​@@richardn3387 she's a part of FOM, so she's part of F1 meetings too from what I hear. That means there's a possibility that word gets around to her and so on
@jessez8503
@jessez8503 10 месяцев назад
​​​@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 That still doesn't explain how she could get info that would give Mercedes a competitive advantage if she shared some of it with Toto over breakfast. Unless FOM gives access to F1 info to all it's senior staff regardless of whether their role is in F1 or not. Then it doesn't make sense to think that someone running F1 academy a series that's lower than F3 would have access to F1 info. Actually, if they give everyone access to info then info would still get leaked even if Susie wasn't an employee, just like RBs cost cap breach got leaked. We also need to know what info the FIA actually shares with FOM seeing as the FIA is responsible for the sporting side of F1
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 10 месяцев назад
​@@jessez8503 I think the important clue is what exactly is the information. Is it sth to do with near or distant future. In the latter case, there's some sense how Susie might've known, because any F1 changes, tyres, aero etc, usually trickles down in lower formulas
@1barnet1
@1barnet1 10 месяцев назад
@@richardn3387 That depends what meeting she is in. She holds a director position on the F1 academy. Which in it's current state won't produce anything beyond an side show appetizer on some GP weekends. None of the drivers we've seen there will ever be an full time F1 driver. Some of them might get an testing virtue signaling promotion marketing side gig.
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII 10 месяцев назад
Wasn't this also being mentioned during the Canadian GP When Mercedes came out with a part within 24hrs of a new regulation being made
@hammerfist8763
@hammerfist8763 10 месяцев назад
In their defense, rapid design prototyping has been one of their competitive strengths for the better part of a decade. In days of yore (unrestricted wind tunnel testing) teams have had correct parts for a new reg on hand, simply because they were testing frames with them and doing what-if wind tunnel analysis. All that's into the wind with the new wind tunnel rules.
@asdjkhasdhjasd
@asdjkhasdhjasd 10 месяцев назад
@@hammerfist8763 that's much harder to do now with the cost cap now isn't it? the 'what-if' wind tunnel analysis that is, since a lot of it would go unused.
@brodcaster14
@brodcaster14 10 месяцев назад
It was a hole for a pre-existing stay in the floor and some wire cable. A fucking student FSAE team could do that.
@gosika3
@gosika3 10 месяцев назад
Those regulations have nothing to do with FOM since FIA is responsible for them
@yt.personal.identification
@yt.personal.identification 10 месяцев назад
​@@hammerfist8763 That is rubbish. It was announced on Wednesday, and they arrived on track on Thursday with body parts prepared. No one is that good. Just NO
@PadreAlan67
@PadreAlan67 10 месяцев назад
The way Susie Wolff went for the "misogyny" defence concerns me. People typically play identity politics when they are trying to deflect. It isn't the action of an innocent person but a grifter who knows they may be caught.
@_Mutineer
@_Mutineer 10 месяцев назад
Spot on. A huge red flag.
@praveentitus7193
@praveentitus7193 10 месяцев назад
@PadreAlan67 Absolutely! I mentioned that point too in my comment to the Autosport news article about this.
@brucemckay7828
@brucemckay7828 10 месяцев назад
Thought similar.
@darthconquerus
@darthconquerus 10 месяцев назад
What a terrible take. If you’ve spent your entire career being treated differently because you’re a woman in motorsport (they’ve only just updated the rule book to say ‘the driver’ rather than ‘he’ for example) then when something you consider absolute bullshit gets reported about you then of course you’re going to be more sensitive to that and of course you’re going to assume, given how spurious and vague all this stuff is, that it’s because someone wants to badmouth you. Same as she’s had over the last 20 years behind the scenes I’m sure. It won’t be the first time she’s faced someone trying to sabotage her because she’s a woman because some just don’t like women getting into key roles still
@sz5876
@sz5876 10 месяцев назад
100% she's very clever, to rise to the level she did as a driver despite being very mediocre shows that.
@Alex_49_YT
@Alex_49_YT 10 месяцев назад
Susie Wollf seems to already try to put herself in the victim role, which at this early stage is suspicious, but also disgusting behaviour if you ask me
@lucidonoccasion5012
@lucidonoccasion5012 10 месяцев назад
That's exactly what I thought when her first response was pulling the misogyny card. My suspicion is definitely piqued.
@AsherGrace7
@AsherGrace7 10 месяцев назад
Telling on yourself in three separate statements to combat the FIA saying "We are looking into a thing." is wild.
@Podemeister
@Podemeister 10 месяцев назад
Each have been accused of impropriety in the related article that prompted the FIA statement, by the FIAs own admittance. Not quite related to the FIA either so all very strange. FOM would be the injured party, if they had info being leaked, yet they strongly deny any issues. I suspect the journo/ FIA have overstepped in using such to poke at FOM.
@R4sKal
@R4sKal 10 месяцев назад
@@Podemeister Allegedly the flow of information went the other way. While it's unclear, whether Susie might have given FOM intel to Toto, it was the FOM seemingly obtaining otherwise undisclosed details about discussions taking place during a team principal's meeting, that triggered the first allegations.
@jabba969
@jabba969 10 месяцев назад
@@Podemeister FOM would be the injured party unless it went both ways.
@DaedalusMinion
@DaedalusMinion 10 месяцев назад
"Telling on yourself"- you look foolish now that every team have come out denying the allegations. It is absolutely within her right to fiercely defend against what is essentially an accusation that she is not fit for office.
@BAoxymoron
@BAoxymoron 10 месяцев назад
​@@DaedalusMinionFor real, how in the world is defending obviously malicious accusations proof of guilt. This is absolutely garbage journalism even for The Race on the off season.
@bumfarto2019
@bumfarto2019 10 месяцев назад
An f1 breakaway series would be hilarious. Take the worst lesson from the CART/IRL split pleeeeease
@dsar8727
@dsar8727 10 месяцев назад
F1 and the CART/IRL split has too many parallels. The CART/IRL split are rooted back to when in the 80s the teams gained too much power over the sport, something we are now seeing in F1.
@NotKimiRaikkonen1
@NotKimiRaikkonen1 10 месяцев назад
If all the teams and drivers followed, there'd be no need to retain the F1 name... it would become a second-tier organization.
@bucketslash11
@bucketslash11 10 месяцев назад
remember when Mercedes tested their 2022 car with an extra floor support before it was announced as legal, wolff clearly gets his information from somewhere on the inside of F1
@UltraF20
@UltraF20 10 месяцев назад
Petition to deduct 47 points from LH in 2017 season. If you know you know!😂😂😂😂😂 Before you LH lovers start bombarding at me, just bantering!
@TFRLIceman
@TFRLIceman 10 месяцев назад
And this is how the FIA will get the teams to get on board with allowing Andretti on the grid. 'Hey Toto, we could drop this investigation if you sign on...'
@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers
@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers 10 месяцев назад
That would be a bit of a "chad move" lowkey tbh ngl fr fr
@robertfrost1683
@robertfrost1683 10 месяцев назад
Bingo - you win the internet today
@khasmir666
@khasmir666 10 месяцев назад
Or that is what they are trying to do. It stinks and I'm pretty sure it will backfire in Sulayem his face 💩
@narvul
@narvul 10 месяцев назад
Andretti F1 will be the next Haas, nobody cares other than the US.
@brodcaster14
@brodcaster14 10 месяцев назад
As much as I want Andretti on the grid this "case" is so weak lawyers are lining up outside Toto's office salivating at the thought of suing the FIA for all they are worth.
@thedj9553
@thedj9553 10 месяцев назад
honestly the FIA should just take control of F1 once the commercial rights deal is over, Liberty Media are not motorsports people.
@bigbuckoramma
@bigbuckoramma 10 месяцев назад
I 100% believe that is what this is going to lead to. The FIA exerting itself on Liberty Media, and taking back the rights holding for F1. This will get messy, quickly.
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 10 месяцев назад
Agreed
@Did_LeCouz
@Did_LeCouz 10 месяцев назад
Not possible
@bynahelemaal
@bynahelemaal 10 месяцев назад
Why was there no investigation of sheila rao, and her appointment to the budget cap board halfway through the season in 2021 and then toto having knowledge of confidential information before others in 2022
@alexandroskoskinas
@alexandroskoskinas 10 месяцев назад
Perhaps that s why we have one now, with a simple marital conflict of interest.
@norbertjanssen814
@norbertjanssen814 10 месяцев назад
Because Mercedes is a car company and just like Ferrari F1 depends on those company´s and they don´t want to make them angry. So sometimes just like the Ferrari engine in 2019 it gets sorted out within closed doors.
@B.A.GarGar
@B.A.GarGar 10 месяцев назад
😂😂So ferrari has infos just because stephano domenicali was ferrari's team principal?
@norbertjanssen814
@norbertjanssen814 10 месяцев назад
@@B.A.GarGar Not the same thing....
@B.A.GarGar
@B.A.GarGar 10 месяцев назад
@@norbertjanssen814 explain please
@norberthofer5830
@norberthofer5830 10 месяцев назад
Just remember CART. When it peaked in popularity everyone involved got greedy and wanted control and destroyed the series. Its never been the same since.
@Did_LeCouz
@Did_LeCouz 10 месяцев назад
So we have indycar now
@praveentitus7193
@praveentitus7193 10 месяцев назад
@@Did_LeCouz A far cry from CART.
@ronbelanger4113
@ronbelanger4113 10 месяцев назад
Ha, CART was a minor national series, northing close to a global one.
@sz5876
@sz5876 10 месяцев назад
Toto and Horner will take the series down in flames before they do anything for the greater good of F1.
@praveentitus7193
@praveentitus7193 10 месяцев назад
@@ronbelanger4113 CART wasn't "a minor national series". It was an international series with races in Australia and Europe apart from North America.
@Russian__hammer
@Russian__hammer 10 месяцев назад
the moment she bought up misogyny. I knew she was guilty. Time to cry victim.
@GamezGuru1
@GamezGuru1 10 месяцев назад
Well, Toto already got tipped off and went public about Red Bull's overspend back in 2021, whilst submissions were confidential. Not to mention that floor stay regulation change last year that they worked on ahead of time - I think conflict of interest is putting it lightly...
@ask.repeat
@ask.repeat 10 месяцев назад
Toto confirmed this with his comments when all the cost cap drama began.
@elusiveruse832
@elusiveruse832 10 месяцев назад
The definition of Conflict of Interest could not fit this situation any better, in fact I was flabbergasted when I learned about Susie getting the F1 Academy job, although it was not entirely surprising considering the nepotism and cronyism that plagues the sport.
@zachkrampien8699
@zachkrampien8699 10 месяцев назад
When the FIA says something as unspecific as “they are looking into a matter of media speculation” and Mercedes/Susie Wolff respond immediately by saying they did nothing wrong, that’s a pretty obvious admission of guilt no?
@androyiwnl.4757
@androyiwnl.4757 10 месяцев назад
Let's be honest, it wouldnt be beneath Wolff and Mercedes, just think back to their illegal testing of new tyres, or their "coincidental" access to the new engine regs both just before the start of their 7 year dominance.
@t3h51d3w1nd3r
@t3h51d3w1nd3r 10 месяцев назад
They were burning oil when nobody else was, when the fia finally caught on they wrote regulations to impose a limit on newly introduced engines, which was everybody but Mercedes. Toto while on sky f1 said they’d follow the new rules even tho they didn’t have to, but of course that went out the window when Ferrari started to catch up. Worst of all no one, apart from myself, talks about any of this and ppl just believe they pulled an extra 20-30kph on straights and faster acceleration out of corners out of nowhere.
@kelvinlolo9612
@kelvinlolo9612 10 месяцев назад
The conflict of interest just smoke thrown by FIA and MBS to vs FOM,all teams are posted they support susie wolf . They don’t wanna become victim if FIA succeed this time mean FIA will get more control at the same time
@sz5876
@sz5876 10 месяцев назад
Remember Brazil several years ago where they got a magical fresh engine that had them devouring cars on the main straight, that wasn't suspicious at all.
@isabellthreesixty
@isabellthreesixty 10 месяцев назад
@@sz5876 Yeah 2021 Brazil was hella sketchy, legit looked like Lewis had 100hp extra on the straights, it was absolutely unreal. How that never got investigated is beyond me...
@KainedbutAble123
@KainedbutAble123 10 месяцев назад
She played the ‘Misogyny’ card instantly. 😅
@braindump1446
@braindump1446 10 месяцев назад
That in itself is weird. It somehow feels like NOT answering to the possible accusations but deflecting by steering the narrative in a new direction.
@AndyHack10
@AndyHack10 10 месяцев назад
That makes her appear even more guilty, not gonna lie.
@red5standingby419
@red5standingby419 10 месяцев назад
Corruption from Mercedes? I am shocked I tell you. SHOCKED
@Serbofreak
@Serbofreak 10 месяцев назад
Oh my! Husband and wife sharing confidential information! How on earth could that have happened?
@Eeraz
@Eeraz 10 месяцев назад
With no names being dropped a Statements that fierce are weird. I do dare to believe that someone feeling that threatened does have something to hide. On the other hand it’s Toto and he isn’t really the collected type when it comes to those things.
@Lastname6955
@Lastname6955 10 месяцев назад
They didn't drop names on the teams who broke the cap last year, it's probably just their protocal - either way we all know in both cases who they are talking about
@tylercady3985
@tylercady3985 10 месяцев назад
Yeah I understand that they were named in the media reports, but the FIA didn't name anyone or even the rumors themselves, yet all 3 parties responded so fast and so fiercely that I believe there has to be some truth to it. Otherwise you would be wiser to ignore it and hopefully let it blow over without you ever getting involved
@jonasb4395
@jonasb4395 10 месяцев назад
ehhh, they probably just came out with statements because it would leak/ or come out anyway in the next few days and everyone would be something: they are hiding so must be them. Just seems like everything is speculation.
@Eeraz
@Eeraz 10 месяцев назад
@@Lastname6955 it is. And why? To prevent a media frenzy. That’s why them dropping their own names is so perplexing in the first place.
@jonasb4395
@jonasb4395 10 месяцев назад
ehhh, they probably just came out with statements because it would leak/ or come out anyway in the next few days and everyone would be something: they are hiding so must be them. Just seems like everything is speculation.
@fuzzywalnuts32
@fuzzywalnuts32 10 месяцев назад
What a birthday present for Susie! BRUUUUTAL!
@harshhapani7230
@harshhapani7230 10 месяцев назад
Wasn't Toto/mercedes also involved around the new 2014 engine regulations with the fia or something?
@AwkwardLeon69420
@AwkwardLeon69420 10 месяцев назад
The truth is that it isn't shocking, i can 100% believe he did this.
@Merkaba954
@Merkaba954 10 месяцев назад
Got to love that she and Mercedes came out and refuted allegations against themselves before anyone announced the allegations were at them. Call me crazy but that seems like something someone would do if they may be guilty of the allegations. JS
@Mattipazz0
@Mattipazz0 10 месяцев назад
Didn't they bring an update in Canada 2022 that was only made legal the day before they brought it? I heard this and was wondering if it's true
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 10 месяцев назад
Yup and other teams had serious concerns back then as well
@Aefweard
@Aefweard 10 месяцев назад
and knew that RB had breached the budged a week before RB were told.
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 10 месяцев назад
@Aefweard oh yeah, we all know this happened, so why so long to look into it. Now that the cat is out of the bag someone is fucked regardless how this ends
@GhostonYoutube201x
@GhostonYoutube201x 10 месяцев назад
@@Aefweard everyone knew they did, considering that season mercedes still had the best team with eric blandin, james allison and may others before they left, its funny how they closed a massive gap when mercedes stop development in 2020 so early on to focus on 2021 and they still get margined...
@kwizzledizzle4513
@kwizzledizzle4513 10 месяцев назад
Yup, already on the car, was it a second rod or something?
@justanotherokie3149
@justanotherokie3149 10 месяцев назад
It's ridiculous to think they aren't sharing information, doesn't even come remotely close to passing the smell test.
@dustinabigan2776
@dustinabigan2776 10 месяцев назад
I feel like it would have been better off if Mercedes and Susie didn't issue statements about it this early, especially when no on was actually namedropped in the first place. Now for the more speculative, it looks like they really do have something to hide.
@berch5015
@berch5015 10 месяцев назад
The second she played the misogyny card, I knew she was guilty
@fraserwallace6939
@fraserwallace6939 10 месяцев назад
All the teams have released statements saying they have made no complaints and support the F1 Academy.
@asdsad17
@asdsad17 10 месяцев назад
FIA: We're investigating something. The suspects: Me, me, me. kwab
@Aiii83
@Aiii83 10 месяцев назад
The only “shock” here is that it took this long for Toto and Susie to get publicly caught.
@christiansimmons630
@christiansimmons630 10 месяцев назад
Can you share you evidence that proves they’ve done wrong please? No media outlet, F1 or the FIA have done so, which means you’re clearly in possession of something no one else is
@trackman07
@trackman07 10 месяцев назад
Caught how?
@rickyspanish4792
@rickyspanish4792 10 месяцев назад
Caught doing what? How do YOU know? And if not, why spread allegations about someone? How would you like if I claimed you were, dunno, a child abuser? Hey, now it's not so cool, right?
@johnnychimpo7539
@johnnychimpo7539 10 месяцев назад
What were they “caught” doing?
@outlawf1272
@outlawf1272 10 месяцев назад
Totogate and susiegate CHEATERS
@darshang1262
@darshang1262 10 месяцев назад
Somehow for susie its all about mysognystic
@Magariz1283
@Magariz1283 10 месяцев назад
lmao if merc did nothing wrong then why respond the way they did?
@matthewbarber13
@matthewbarber13 10 месяцев назад
It’s funny that, because if they’d said nothing you’d be here criticising them for not denying it and that they’d have something to hide. This is how the world works, when a public accusation is made people, teams or companies will make a statement of denial. Mercedes F1 are a brand, they have a brand image to protect which would necessitate a public statement of denial. The same with Toto and Susie.
@thandosocikwa
@thandosocikwa 10 месяцев назад
@@matthewbarber13no point arguing with these people in the comments, the majority of them want so badly for Toto and Susie to be guilty, they’ve made up their minds already.
@Magariz1283
@Magariz1283 10 месяцев назад
@@matthewbarber13 no i wouldnt because i wouldnt have suspected them of anything. reacting like this makes them look guilty
@matthewbarber13
@matthewbarber13 10 месяцев назад
@@thandosocikwavery true
@Magariz1283
@Magariz1283 10 месяцев назад
@@thandosocikwa no, idgaf. however, toto isnt known for his cool head.
@yahyarajaee5883
@yahyarajaee5883 10 месяцев назад
As this rift between FOM and FIA grows bigger and bigger, fans will be forced to take a side and decide with their wallets. Personally my opinions are gradually shifting from being close to FOM mindset to FIA one. FIA is the regulator and the enforcer of the agreements that FOM collectively agree. So if FOM has a problem witg FIA, they really have a problem with themselves.
@JoeyBonzo
@JoeyBonzo 10 месяцев назад
I remember in Drive to Survive last year Toto was talking about Checo making comments about the car being unsafe, yet never produced any evidence of Checo ever stating that publicly. Someone else pointed out that Toto knew about Red Bull breaching the cost-gap before even Christian Horner knew. There's WAY too many things that were coincidences in the past few years that make a lot more sense with the information (whether true or not) that Toto was getting information from his wife who was working for F1.
@bassistmike1987
@bassistmike1987 10 месяцев назад
Apart she only started in that position THIS YEAR. Wild and dangerous internet speculation not grounded in fact one bit.
@smallpiper2
@smallpiper2 10 месяцев назад
Alright i was about to dismiss this entire thing until Susie came out with the "misogynistic" defense. Such a tell.
@kyleharrison713
@kyleharrison713 10 месяцев назад
Ok, but what 'Exactly' are they being accused of? Most generic accusations I've seen in a while.
@ManualFlying
@ManualFlying 10 месяцев назад
The problem is, half the FIA is made up of friends and former colleagues of an existing F1 team. If Susie and Mercedes are conflict of interest, you can say the same for other teams.
@aldo_0000
@aldo_0000 10 месяцев назад
If Max Verstappen drove a Mercedes this season he would have won at least one race, we are dealing with a level of talent the likes of which has never been seen before in F1.
@christiansimmons630
@christiansimmons630 10 месяцев назад
Your statement applies to every single team on the grid - stop being so dumbly naive
@ishqiahmed4315
@ishqiahmed4315 10 месяцев назад
like every other team on the grid is a saint...
@paladin677
@paladin677 10 месяцев назад
Isn't that the whole point of the sport? You ain't cheatin you ain't trying.
@remy090
@remy090 10 месяцев назад
I bet you're a hypocritical Red Bull fan lol
@MyRealName
@MyRealName 10 месяцев назад
@@remy090 Red Bull are no saints, but Mercedes are pure scum. Everything they did over past 10 years proved that, start from spying and keep going. Say what you want but that's true.
@tarun1982
@tarun1982 10 месяцев назад
The thumbnail could be a great poster for a movie 'Mr and Mrs Wolff'
@bigbuckoramma
@bigbuckoramma 10 месяцев назад
I came into this with the mindset of "this is a nothing burger", and then Susie had to go full "Muh 2 X Chromosomes" about her struggles in life, and now i cant help but believe that the FIA has something tangible here.
@zainmalik1872
@zainmalik1872 10 месяцев назад
You know what they say, "Don't believe anything until it's officially denied." Because you know something must've happened for them to feel the need to make a statement at all.
@ljessecusterl
@ljessecusterl 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, the insertion of "this is misogynistic!" immediately sets my teeth on edge. It's the ultimate cop-out.
@AlizioHerman
@AlizioHerman 10 месяцев назад
How did Susie mentioning misogyny convince you she may be guilty? Out of all the things she used to refute.
@indcredible7839
@indcredible7839 10 месяцев назад
​@@AlizioHermanBecause when you are guilty, you give every excuse you can think of, in order to make the accusation sound ridiculous. If it's without substance, you just laugh at it and know there would be nothing that comes out of it
@thelarry383
@thelarry383 10 месяцев назад
@@indcredible7839 and if you're falsely accused of something, you would be dumb to not think of every excuse to prove your innocence. Literally what defense attorneys do.
@jazzrockr
@jazzrockr 10 месяцев назад
While the 100 year deal also feels really weird, and also permitted undercutting of potential direct competition, especially in Europe (which is why you don't have alternatives to the F1 pathway for formula racing iN Europe), this continues to be good work by Ben Sulayem and company to try to improve the within-FIA health of motorsport. But the end solution would be an ecosystem where alternate international world series in each of these disciplines as well as regional series, would compete against each other. And motorsport fans, communities, cultures, etc. would ultimately be the ones with the greatest leverage as to what happens where and that would be best in the longer term.
@AwkwardLeon69420
@AwkwardLeon69420 10 месяцев назад
It's sad that both of them have a massive lack of integrity, not a value you want in a leader
@therealquaid1694
@therealquaid1694 10 месяцев назад
It's just a shame Toto also got away with his blatant insider trading.
@johnnychimpo7539
@johnnychimpo7539 10 месяцев назад
@@therealquaid1694want me to get you a tissue?
@outlawf1272
@outlawf1272 10 месяцев назад
Agree, totogate and susiegate CHEATERS
@therealquaid1694
@therealquaid1694 10 месяцев назад
@@johnnychimpo7539 yes please, I'm crying tears of joy that the paddock is teaming up to bully Mercedes. It's hilarious.
@johnnychimpo7539
@johnnychimpo7539 10 месяцев назад
@@therealquaid1694 damn, your life must be really sad. Sorry to hear that, good luck with that
@davidioanhedges
@davidioanhedges 10 месяцев назад
She was made Managing Director of F1 academy in March ... she was married to Toto and he was Team principal at the time... nothing has changed inbetween...
@Majigitajog
@Majigitajog 10 месяцев назад
Merc: "I DIDN'T DO IT" FIA: "Uhhh NOW you did. Gotcha"
@esavage8855
@esavage8855 10 месяцев назад
More like FIA: “hey were launching an investigation into some F1 teams” The wolffs: “how dare you investigate us? Its wrong” FIA “we didn’t even mention names but thanks you for confirming what we expected” 😂
@Majigitajog
@Majigitajog 10 месяцев назад
True, though public perception will now loudly be that something is up. Unless you're the bad end of Team LH haha@@esavage8855
@flessuh
@flessuh 10 месяцев назад
I don't understand why teams focus on saying "it wasn't me" instead of focussing on reaffirming any potential conflict of interest should be investigated. Everyone should welcome this. Yes it sucks for the Wolffs, but it can also mean they get cleared after investigation. (main issue here is the media reporting before anything is known, like the budget cap breach from RB)
@StuntpilootStef
@StuntpilootStef 10 месяцев назад
I am so totally, utterly, unsurprised it's Wolff.
@paunixon
@paunixon 8 месяцев назад
The Race get this video out the *very next day* after these allegations against Toto; yet, RB and Horner seem to have been granted some sort of free pass - with the Race yet to post any video about allegations against Horner. Who's in charge? Michael Masi?
@jonaseriksson3782
@jonaseriksson3782 10 месяцев назад
The amount of people in this comment section jumping at the chance to be experts in clownsuits on why Mercedes should be penalized and/or both Toto and Susie fired..
@berserksamurai
@berserksamurai 10 месяцев назад
Now the 9 other teams have said they were not the ones that made a complaint regarding the Wolffs -- who was it then, Andretti?
@hosericardo
@hosericardo 10 месяцев назад
It’s obviously Horner despite his smoke and mirrors!
@foudationffgd9141
@foudationffgd9141 10 месяцев назад
Susie wolf playing the gender card in her statement was one of the most woman things ever 😂
@RyanhMax
@RyanhMax 10 месяцев назад
If it’s gender on her side wat abt Toto’s side?
@ThaCampinDutchman
@ThaCampinDutchman 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, reeks of standard modern day deflection. Its a tried, and more importantly, dead trope. If giants like Disney and stuff can't use that anymore as a shield. A simple individual like herself surely can't either.
@TheOrderOfN
@TheOrderOfN 10 месяцев назад
@@ThaCampinDutchmanyuuuuup to anyone with half a brain that statement just fueled the allegations even more.
@Maarttiin
@Maarttiin 10 месяцев назад
Canada 2022 came to my mind. FIA wanted to introduce a second floor support, no team knew about it... by Canada Mercedes came up with that seconds support to test.
@jffffff
@jffffff 10 месяцев назад
I don’t understand how that specific rule would have anything to deal with the F1Academy
@vedranpevec4483
@vedranpevec4483 10 месяцев назад
When Toto is desperate,he will do whatever it takes to get advantage over the others.
@lukeyarasheski5510
@lukeyarasheski5510 10 месяцев назад
Of course this is a conflict. Perhaps more than 11 families should be in charge of the biggest series in motorsports
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 10 месяцев назад
Even if there was no particular misconduct on this occasion, that seems like an awfully big; and obvious, conflict of interest going on there. Sort of puzzling how it was allowed.
@Reydriel
@Reydriel 10 месяцев назад
Bruh, this turned out to be huge fat L for the FIA lmao
@all_things_828
@all_things_828 10 месяцев назад
A guilty conscience needs no accuser 😁
@tarettime9392
@tarettime9392 10 месяцев назад
They were accused though. The information that it was them hasn’t been made fully public yet but they had obviously already been informed.
@juanedenburg6766
@juanedenburg6766 10 месяцев назад
What the most people miss is that there are team principal meetings where thing are being discussed about fom ore FIA. It’s not what Susie saying to Toto but Toto to Susie. the reaction of Susie I found strange at minimum. Do not forget that Toto had twice info how he should not have RB bugged cap thing he spook 4 weeks before the end date and the wings last year that the had new mounts for there wings. And it’s a bad look for the f1 totally
@FrontSideBus
@FrontSideBus 10 месяцев назад
They should look into Toto and Shaila-Ann Rao!
@1972LittleC
@1972LittleC 10 месяцев назад
Also, but this one's easier. But the Canadian Rod was a big, big, no YUGE sign on the wall.
@Jay-nk6dm
@Jay-nk6dm 10 месяцев назад
If this really is a broader fight between f1 and the FIA, going after a TP and team owner is a huge deal. Toto is not like a Horner or Fred or Gunther, he’s more closely related to a Ferrari/matterschitz considering his ownership of the f1 team.
@EclipsaMyrtenaster
@EclipsaMyrtenaster 10 месяцев назад
Even if the FIA didn’t name them specifically, we already knew who it was since there are really only 2 people who it could be. Just kinda surprised that this just happened now rather than earlier.
@henlienr22
@henlienr22 10 месяцев назад
ive been thinking for a long time now thats its weird that two people as close as susie and toto are allowed to work is such delicate work as inside f1 and teamboss.... so its high time to have one of them give up their job in order to not risk sensitive information being discussed during off the record situation like example during breakfast....
@kkill98787
@kkill98787 10 месяцев назад
Imagine getting cutting edge information and still being midfield….
@helix99999
@helix99999 10 месяцев назад
How can Susie be employed such a high level position while her husband is literally a Team Principal?
@tristancarr2112
@tristancarr2112 10 месяцев назад
Why is it again Lewis being in a team caught up in controversy around confidential information being released😂😂😂
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 10 месяцев назад
"This is getting manipulated man"
@MegatronRacing237
@MegatronRacing237 10 месяцев назад
You’re reaching dude. That was Alonso.
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 10 месяцев назад
​@@MegatronRacing237 No one's blaming Lewis. He was just part of Mclaren when Spygate happened & now this. Unnecessary LH hate on the way
@justanaverageguy1351
@justanaverageguy1351 10 месяцев назад
Toto and Susie are husband and wife. They can swap information freely over dinner, at bedtime, in the car, etc., without leaving any evidence to show they did. It's totally unrealistic to assume no information will ever be shared.
@cooke828
@cooke828 10 месяцев назад
In my experience, innocent people wait for the process. Guilty people attack their accusers.
@NERGYStudios
@NERGYStudios 10 месяцев назад
It is a bang-on conflict of interest to have anyone related to an influential person in F1 get involved with FIA management. There is no bloody 'misogyny' in pointing that out.
@4js123
@4js123 10 месяцев назад
man i love chaos. this is more of a show then the actual races are
@F1FanCanuck
@F1FanCanuck 10 месяцев назад
F1 needs to be more responsible in their response to this issue. The FIA are OBLIGATED by their mandate to investigate allegations of conflict of interest and potential corruption - it would be inappropriate of them to not look into the matter. Toto and Suzie are who they are, they’re always going to preen for the cameras and instantly over-react, but F1 as an organization should not be so quick to pick sides. Their responsibility is to all stakeholders, not just the Wolfs. It behooves FOM and Liberty Media to wait until the investigation is complete and then comment on the matter. If the FIA clears the Wolfs without comment or influence from F1, there could be no greater exoneration for the pair.
@sadmanh0
@sadmanh0 10 месяцев назад
doesn't matter if there's actually any information shared or not, either Toto or Susie must quit their position.
@titancheat
@titancheat 10 месяцев назад
Most likely Susie, as I believe toto owns a part of Mercedes or something. I'm honestly surprised f1 let this happen. Not surprised a one spouse would tell the other info, even if it's not right. Any spouse not just the wolffs.
@oneshotme
@oneshotme 10 месяцев назад
I enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
@jimutjayadev
@jimutjayadev 10 месяцев назад
She is like a Carmen Jorda with better connections. And playing the woman card is hilarious. What value is she even adding ?
@jvomkrieg
@jvomkrieg 10 месяцев назад
Suzie Wolff rejects the idea that her and her husband Toto talk "Look, i haven't spoken to that terminator looking mofo in a decade or more and anyone who says so is calling me a liar" Toto agreed as part of their joint statement, while they held hands in solidarity.
@jonaseriksson3782
@jonaseriksson3782 10 месяцев назад
To everyone claiming an obvious conflict of interest, you are wrong. If Susie should have been prevented from being promoted to managing director simply because she is married to Toto, then no team personel should ever be allowed to join another team since their loyalties could still be tied to the prior team. Their marriage and high ranking jobs only warrants a need for certain neccesary transparency when needed. They are both extremely dedicated professionals and that should be valued more than the simple fact that they are married.
@user-mr9tw6dj6h
@user-mr9tw6dj6h 10 месяцев назад
so, what was the information shared?
@MTbone7
@MTbone7 10 месяцев назад
Only the guilty feel the need to defend themselves on allegations that don't even mention them
@dirty_mac
@dirty_mac 10 месяцев назад
Except it was already obvious who the allegations were against
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 10 месяцев назад
Toto - I have never met this woman
@sergioccs74
@sergioccs74 10 месяцев назад
​@@dirty_macyeah I don't know about that. Like yeah we all knew who were, but the response certainly just make them feel really quilty. It's probable not because of knowing who the accused were but because of the fierceness of the response. Like you could put everything on cold just by saying yeah mate investigate away. Or even "we are prepared to fight the accusations if the process goes on because we knew we did nothing wrong" How they did it it sounds quilty
@MTbone7
@MTbone7 10 месяцев назад
@@dirty_mac obvious to mercedes fans apparently
@dirty_mac
@dirty_mac 10 месяцев назад
@Emorphiamusic
@Emorphiamusic 10 месяцев назад
it would explain why mercedes was the only one with an updated floor (2nd stay) in canada a day after the rulechange that a 2nd would be allowed. and it was not really smart of the wolffs to react that way if you are not even named in the article.
@chumleyk
@chumleyk 10 месяцев назад
Susie Wolff claiming it's because of misogyny was uncalled for and represents her unprofessional approach to all this. Based on her level of argument, her accusation was evidently misandrist.
@OneIdeaTooMany
@OneIdeaTooMany 10 месяцев назад
As someone who worked in IT, Why would the f1 academy boss need access to cost cap reports? If they had access to that information, you have a permissions issue right there that needs to be addressed. I think there's a potential conflict of interest there and maybe she can push a good female driver in Toto's direction but still, i don't see why she would need access to f1 data to run another championship after just having come from formula E.
@KarenHorner-z9z
@KarenHorner-z9z 10 месяцев назад
Girlboss pulling the gender card in her statement lmao
@Majigitajog
@Majigitajog 10 месяцев назад
I'm so disappointed in that. Screams guilty
@14rs2
@14rs2 10 месяцев назад
I want to know what the confidential information was
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