The Strange case of Voyager Flight 333 

Just wanted to say, you are my absolute favorite Pilot/Aviation educator on RU-vid. And give your team their props, your combined efforts make me eager for simulator training days.

The evil of routine... Good job Peter. Thanks👍

I LOVE your videos... But I often have to go back because I’ve become entranced by your voice and lost track of the story. 😂

Survey its the very nature of this channel that something is to blame? Person, aircraft, procedure etc! Was the captain found guilty of causing the incident?

Noticed it might be time to exercise. I'm in the same boat. In my case, friends and family could not be counted on to point it out to me. Loved this video by the way!

@@rnapol3266 The public comments are for public discussion about the video. You really shouldn't read them until after the video if you don't want spoilers. No one needs to police "spoiler" content here, as it's quite literally your own fault for coming down into the comments, where we discuss the video, and then getting mad about spoilers. *ahem* Loser. LMAO

@@rnapol3266 so you know that and you still looked? Have some situational awareness, pilot.

​@@rnapol3266 That's also your fault being an Iphone user lmao

​​@@slowlearner46 Android do it too. On mobile they moved the comments back up to right under the video instead of having recommended videos first like they were doing

@@Rocker-1234 but its an iphone user who complained about it, its an iq issue

My thoughts too. Taking 31 seconds to remove the camera and then hiding the cause isn't brilliant.

@@muzero2642 and, even though RAF doesn't adhere to a just culture model, his only defence would be lack of recollection due to the stressful event. I think even that (reasonable) chance should have led to his experience being used elsewhere and not to him being used as scapegoat. Perhaps, if he did recall, he would have been more likely to include his moving of the camera in his report if Perfect Honesty was seen as preferable to Perfect Performance.

@@matthewellisor5835 Then again you have to draw the line somewhere (the captain would certainly face charges if he stabbed someone to death on the flight, even if he was honest about it) and I think it's a pretty difficult case here. Because he certainly did something, probably knowingly, that just was strictly forbidden, and it wasn't caused by panic or any other outside factor. He simply shouldn't have been taking pictures. But, who knows how many others broke that rule as well? If everyone did, I agree he shouldn't face charges since apparently company culture and training didn't emphasize this rule enough. But, if he was the only one, it's harder to argue against blaming this on him.

Indeed. I would _hope_ that there would have been no court martial had the pilot revealed his actions (with the camera) early in the investigation ... at least when he heard the CVR playback.

Being court martialed makes people hide evidence, that is why these accidents reports don't assign blame.

Those same safety features have also been the cause or attributed to other airbus incidents but in the end it’s probably done more good than harm

​@@John-86Even the madatory ol seatbelt has been the cause of death before. Although police never seem to accept that reason when I get caught not wearing it....for my own safety.

@@PowerScissor seatbelt ticket is such bs. Why tf u going to get a ticket for not wearing something that doesn’t have any impact on any1 else but yourself. It’s for your own safety it doesn’t endangers anyone but yourself. To me if u want to take the risk it’s your own problem why get a ticket for it. People ride motorcycles they take a risk people smoke they take a risk. Seatbelt tickets r a pure scam

​@@John-86 Ironically the cop was on a motorcycle. As soon as I brought that up, his whole attitude changed and I knew I was getting ticketed for sure. I have an old sports injury that makes seatbelts very uncomfortable...and possibly dangerous because I'm always fiddling with them. I'd rather take the risk of more damage or death in a crash to not be in pain every time I drive. I've never been in an accident in all 43 years, but have avoided others almost causing accidents daily by paying close attention as I drive. I will never wear my seatbelt 100% of the time no matter how many tickets I get.

@@John-86 Citation needed.

Interesting. Watching the video, I was thinking that causing the incident deserved a punishment but not Court Martial. However, I also thought that lying/trying to hide what actually happened deserved Court Martial. I see that UK military had the same opinion.

@@Hagen838Yeah, I was thinking loss of time in grade, temporary reduction in pay, maybe even a demotion. But lying... that's a lot more substantial. I can completely understand a courts martial and discharge (without honors) for that.

but why did he do that?

@@greenerell484Because he knew he'd be raked over the coals by Command for having his camera out/without the FO in the cockpit.

Proof that the best course of action when you've made a mistake is to admit fault and accept responsibility... especially when a whole investigation team has access to mountains of data about what went wrong

Me too! They are my favorites to cover.

I agree, better to be safe _and_ sorry!

You mean near-hit?

These ones are my favorite to watch too!

Me, too! Intense, but not tragic.

"Broke his back" can mean many things, clearly if he was able to get back, it was only that level break; ie probably a tiny non-displaced fracture.

@@johnsmith1474 I mean he is also reported to have suffered a ruptured dick and nerve damage on top of a broken back

Achy breaky back.

@@johnsmith1474 "also suffered nerve damage and a ruptured disc", if you google the court martial.

@@johnsmith1474 So...you've never served in the military , you've never served your country, never been through anything like this. I flew in Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq , all over the Middle East, and Central and South America for 25 years, You do not have a clue about what it takes to do something like this, You don't know the fear of a fire in the cabin and having nowhere to go, meaning it's up to your Loadmasters to put it out within seconds or your pilots to put it out if somewhere else. You've never been shot at and hit and what if anything can you do depending on where you were hit. That Flight Officer deserves everything he earned or there would be almost 300 deaths if he had failed on getting to the cockpit and doing what needed doing no matter if the Airbus systems may or may not have put the aircraft in the proper attitude. Good on Airbus too for designing such an aircraft.

The military loves to assign blame.

Assigning blame and punishing should be separate things as well. When an honest well intended persons realize they are to blame for something they will 100% correct their behavior and no punishment is needed.

This also allows to actually evaluate any systemic problems that caused/lead to anything going wrong & fix those issues. I know in my field it's always X person did X thing incorrectly and should be punished for their mess up. If the systemic issues that caused that mess up are even looked at it's only ever a footnote.

Untrue, it was stated that the pilot broke cockpit rules.

@@Enonymouse_yes. I had to remember a few times that this was a military operation, because they had enough trouble before they took off for me to cancel the flight. Then I remember, military.

Yeah, it’s pretty impressive

They were very shook up!

Impressive that the plane only lost 4400 ft of altitude.

I remember dropping in a big storm. It only lasted around 7-10 seconds & that felt like forever for all of us. Granted, it was still pretty rough flying before & after that as well, so it was a situation where you keep waiting for it to happen again. Funnily enough, since this was a video about a military flight, it was a flight from my basic training at Fort Knox, KY to my medical training at Ft Sam Houston, TX. Springtime weather in the southeastern US can get pretty lively, lol. One positive was the stewardesses weren’t carding anyone for drinks after that, for which I was very thankful🤣 (this was in ‘89, so things were a bit more relaxed).

Thank engineers!

this is why we stow our xtreme 3D pro's carefully and check trottles is in CL position, simmers, dont we?

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In his defense as a human, he may not have remembered even. But you can't extend that benefit of the doubt professionally.

It is not understandable whatsoever. Not only should it have been obvious something was pushing the controls forward, the cockpit should be sterile. Take something out? Put it away when you're done. This is complete complacency 100%. Without those safeties dude would've crashed the plane. No heroic FO is gonna compete with negative Gs and solving that problem in under a minute.

My understand his the Captain has never taken responsibility for the incidence and still maintains his innocence - at least privately. Whether he knew full well what happened, is just in denial, or genuinely still thinks it was an autopilot malfunction and he's been stitched up with camera explanation only he could answer.

@@moneyprofessional Thank you for this information!

I'm Looking forward to when airlines have LED screen all around the cabin showing the outside view 👌

That happened me too a water bottle roiled under my pedals

I always check that there isn't anything that can roll under the pedals, but the fecking floor mat has got caught up under the pedals several times. Luckily I've always managed to kick it out of the way in time.

When I was a child, we once transported a kitten in the car. She escaped our grasp and suddenly the driver became panicy that she'd crawl behind the brake pedal. As an adult with driver's license now, I can completely understand that fear now. Luckily, she didn't do that and we were able to capture her again.

@@anlumo1 Happened to us when our puppy did get in the driver's footwell under the pedals; thankfully my dad told us where the puppy was and my mum managed to grab her and get her out of the footwell.

This incident occurred to me. I found myself unable to apply the brakes or remove the object stuck beneath the brake pedal in time. In a quick response, I began downshifting the gears, which significantly assisted in slowing down the car. Eventually, I managed to dislodge the object.

I know what you mean. The reality seems to miles away from the perceived glamour. Seems to be a job (quite rightly) about endless rules, procedures and safety protocols, where a human mistake can be career ending. Wanted to be a pilot when I was a young, but very glad I didn't pursue it. Was probably fun 50+ years ago, but more suited to someone interested in applying safety in their work.

Theres a lot of hours in between the 'exciting' bits which I imagine are extremely long and boring as well I imagine, crossing the Atlantic daily would become a grind for example, best thing to do would be to buy a commercial flight sim game as I have recently pondered doing

Same here lol

I always wanted to be a pilot when I was younger but eventually went in another direction. These videos have really made me realise how much technology and physics is involved in piloting and honestly I wouldn’t have been able to do that. Makes me a bit more content with my career choices!

Hahahahha same feelings here 😂😂

Indeed, exactly!

Meanwhile numerous fatalities have occurred because the flight system took control of everything. There are multiple examples of this.

@@rogerramjet6429 Care to name an example of an accident caused because "the flight system took control of everything"? None spring to mind for me.

@@rogerramjet6429 why not give an example then? No? Jog on.

@@peteconrad2077 ever heard of the internet? Look it up yourself and don't expect to be spoon fed. Air crash investigations show has a number of examples, but chances are you won't even bother looking.

The correct decision on the Captain. Zero tolerance for this sort of thing.

@@GPW787 Indeed, that former Captain most likely serves as an example of what happens when one doesn't adhere to the "Sterile Cockpit" environment in military aviation.

He broke his back His back was broken Spinal

Good

The captain would be in deep shit regardless, but covering up the cause should have bought him jail time.

how reassuring haha

"So you get injured in the war in Afghanistan" "... well.. its complicated"

​@@takers786 ikr? I would NOT have been happy to hear that...

I can just imagine that..."Welcome aboard, this plane nearly crashed last time we had passengers on board. Why have you all gone white?"

Whether or not they made it back to the bloody theatre is wholly irrelevant, some things are more important than movies. Please show a little consideration.

The Captain probably would have been dealt with more leniently had he not withheld evidence.

​@@rainscratchI agree. At most, he could have been discharged for his negligence. At the very least, written up for it and retrained.

It's also possible that he noticed the issue and cleared it without registering exactly what it was and what actions he was taking. Instinct and training make a lot of people do things on autopilot with no memory of it after, "ok, ok ok ok" could simply be his reaction to the stick now being free. Benefit of the doubt, and all. No reason to ascribe malicious intent (lying) unless verifiably proven.

@@giin97 I think we watched different videos, then. Balance of probabilities and all that. In general, it's good to not assume malice where stupidity would suffice as an explanation (Hanlon's Razor) but I personally feel like you're being a little generous.

@@JustAnotherBuckyLover I agree. To begin with, the captain should not have been taking photos during the flight. It was bad enough while both pilots were present, but if he continued while alone in the cockpit, that is inexcusable. The pilots should always remain mindful that they have a cargo of passengers who are relying on them to be fully committed and to follow the safety rules. Given the high stakes, I can understand why the penalties are as harsh as they are.

Yep, but since that was not part of the final report, I didn’t include that. Only the facts.

​@@MentourPilot my guess is that he would have got away with it if he had just been honest. This incident has cost the UK tax payer an enormous amount of compensation payments.

​@@MentourPilot you didn't specifically say, but we pretty much figured it out from how the camera was (most likely) removed and what that coincided with on the voice recorder 😉

They seem to have dismissed the two counts of perjury and one count of tampering with evidence. So he was just convicted of only negligence which probably meant he only lost his job/retirement while staying out of prison.

@@katyty1496 How he threw back the camera as if he did nothing wrong....

The cover-up is always worse than the actual transgression. People under-recognize both the cost of lying and the benefit of a mea-culpa.

Always own up to your mistakes.

He may have been able to keep his job if he didn't lie and intentionally deceive investigators. I can understand why he tried to do this. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

He was cleared of lying... Only found guilty of negligence. Which is BS

@@IENiGMAI Interesting point. I suspect investigators concluded he was lying and provided him a humble out. Pure speculation. I wonder if this was key to allow him to get another job somewhere with another airline. Do you know?

And possibly his job. Probably flying commercial now.

it surprises me that he tried to blame it on technical issues instead of confessing. I must be really naive for expecting better from someone with such high responsibility.

wanting to give him the best benefit of the doubt, it seems to me in the panic the captain may have thought the camera became lodged during the pitch down, since so many items would be flying around

@@Zombiesfromjupiter Really though the problem was that he didn't mention the camera in his report. It could be argued that between stress and training he may have cleared the jam without realizing exactly what had happened. But as another commenter mentioned the investigation found that he had actually tried to delete the pictures off the camera to hide the fact that he was using it while alone. He clearly realized that at least some of his actions in the cockpit were against regulations and intentionally tried to conceal that fact. Accidents do happen, but trying to cover up the facts leading to a situation can be even more damning than the actual situation. Especially in a military.

You'd be surprised at how people react to incidents that threaten their lives or career, not everyone adheres to 'do the right thing even if no one is there to see it'. The urge to cover your own a$$ even if its wrong to do so, can be overpowering.

It's strange to have a camera behind the stick especially when you are having problem pulling it back. It should be obvious what's going on.

1) how can you not connect the panes sudden movement with the action you took immediately before (seat move) 2) how do you not look down at a stick that won't move when you want it to?

He most likely tunnel-visioned and didn't look down. His foci would be on the instrument panel and possibly out the window. Only aware that the stick wasn't moving the way he needed it to, but too panic stricken to think about figuring out why. Only once the automatics and actions of the FO ended the immediate danger did he calm down enough to assess the situation properly, at which point he figured out the issue and corrected for it. It's easy for us, as outside observers not at all stressed as he was, to make such judgements, but it's simply not the case that you'll react "intelligently" to a surprise problem in the moment.

@@demiquadfpv3333 Lol, have you ever been flying at close to the speed of sound while pointing at the ground? I bet you don't even have your driving licence.

​@@xonx209 It's strange for a pilot to look down in an emergency. All training teaches is to focus on the displays and other controls of the plane, not immediately look for foreign objects as a possible cause for loss of control.

Did you also notice the flight entertainment was Mentour Pilot?

@@K1OIK absolutely

I’m surprised too. I’ve had a water bottle get stuck under the accelerator. That’s scary enough for me

​@@K1OIK kind of

It's clearly a word. It might not be one you would use if you were writing a news article or a legal brief or something, but it's absolutely a valid word. No one in a free society gets to control the evolution of language. You can express your dislike of some new kinds of variation, and I suppose if a very large majority sees things the same way, then yeah, you might suppress some particular new word or phrase from taking root, but more likely, you'll just sound like a "Get off my lawn!" type of troll

​@@olanmills64 Hey, I dont know you or the other guy, but I just wanted to say life is much nicer when you don't assume malice frist, there's a chance the dude genuinely didn't know and was just asking. There's also a chance that they're not a native English speaking and didn't know. I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, but I think it's a good life rule to give people the benefit of the doubt ^_^

Yeah… 😖

Yup, this former USAF tech has spent many an hour trying to find dropped objects or broken switches/knobs in fighter cockpits. Not a fun task.

I once spent 8 hours disassembling an instrument panel to find a dropped screw. Sometimes doing the right thing is not easy, but it is better than covering it up and potentially risking lives.

Are cameras in the cockpit and cabin something that we can expect in the future? Seems like it would be an easy addition to the data collection in the black boxes and may help in some investigations. Although it would also be heart breaking to see in deadly crashes!

​@@dwmueller76 you know an interesting point would be if these cameras existed in the cockpit is it would change Behavior and avoid these kinds of situations to begin with.

Years ago, I did a flight in a Stearman biplane, where I took my DSLR camera. As I was getting strapped in, I dropped my lens cap between my legs... right into the open channel where the control cables run. Pilot was not happy the flight started with a lens cap fishing trip....

Problem is to loose your bearings and since viewpoint is upside down to figure out best place to be. Generally its ether open area where you wont hit anything when coming down but ideally rail or something you can grab and slow down your upper body while hindering any horizontal movements, so you wont come down face first.

I imaging I'd throw a magazine to Liam Neeson, high five Samuel Jackson, shout go usa then kill an Eastern European with long hair.

after yacking to his girl-friend for 30 minutes instead of being in the cockpit where he was supposed to be. 30 minutes is not a "tea" or "comfort" break.....

@@andrewmurray1550 Sounds more like a tea bagging break😐

The FO must have been so full of adrenaline, get to the flight deck no matter what.

@@K1OIK you act like wanna isnt american slang that a majority of americans use

@@K1OIK bro is grading my comment💀

gonna wanna banana

6:20 the soldiers (or gorillas?) boarding was hilariously bad ;)

I thought this story was gonna be about friendly fire and evasive manuver because of the mention of the IFF malfunctioning and the plane was heading to a warzone and the passenger was stuck onto the ceiling.

​@@kuratowakirusame 😁

It should be noted that IFF is only one piece of the puzzle. "Deconfliction of the air space" is a major point of training in NATO because IFFs are not assumed to be infallible. Further, NATO forces in Afghanistan did not face an enemy air force and this aircraft would likely still have it's civilian transponders active for most or possibly all of the flight. So it's very unlikely that anyone could have mistakenly identified them as a foe, and even then they would have coordinated and inquired rather than just opened fire. The IFF only really starts to matter if you're flying around active allied air defenses and in a combat configuration without civilian transponders. So the reason they didn't particularly care about the IFF is that it really was more of a formality of operating a military aircraft, not something that would actually have been relevant to this flight.

I think you confuse what the IFF does. It isn't to stop enemy fighters from attacking the plane; it's to stop *allied* fighters and anti-air systems from doing so.

​@@CanisMythson I think you misunderstood my comment. I'm well aware of the purpose of IFF. My reference to there being no hostile aircraft around was just meaning that the allied air defenses would be a lot less likely to suspect that an incoming aircraft was hostile than in a war zone where hostile aircraft were expected to be present.

That was just stupid. The elevators used to be raised because loadmasters and/or movers unnecessarily asked for it. They can't obstruct the loading process. As a pilot, I would fasten the column back using the lap straps - that way one couldn't even get back into the seat.

Well, I guess so. 🧐

Yes, me too Little details, talking to his friend, crawling, stuff that could only be known if he survived and gave a report

Yeah, it's about time flight decks get camera recorders as well. I mean even the dirty deli by my house has like dozens of them.

@@noticiasinmundicias trouble with that is video takes up much more storage space than sound and imputs

@@noticiasinmundicias Even hotel bathrooms have them

@@K1OIK google: vid nounINFORMAL short for video. "I've got it on vid now"

I'm glad you said this as it was my take-away too. Sure everyone cocks up but to not own it and to cover it up in a subsequent investigation tells of a person not fit to be in a position of responsibility

Getting violently thrown into the ceiling and violently crashing back down at powerful G forces will do that to bones. Lucky he didn't break his neck and be dead on the spot.

so he had a scratch, big deal.

@@maxmeier532 ?

@@maxmeier532 A scratch? A ruptured disc is a scratch in your world? Nerve damage - stuff that does not heal well because nerves don't regenerate easily, eh - is a scratch, too? May you, one day, hurt your back real bad, rupture a disc and suffer nerve damage... And have your family and friends downplay it as "just a scratch, big deal" Seriously.

Well thank you!! 💕

He is handsome, isn’t he? Scandi guys are hot.

😂

@@kimberlyperrotis8962 I am a boy actually, and not even homo 😂

I’m hungry 😂

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While a flight attendant's most important job is to ensure the safety of passengers, serving food and drinks is part of their job description. In fact, most flight attendants will spend considerably more time serving food and drinks than dealing with emergencies. This is a good thing.

Given restrictions on what passengers can bring, and that people need to eat and drink to be healthy (especially if they have conditions like diabetes) , serving food is needed to maintain passenger welfare

@@Eternal_Tech I think his point was more aimed towards the fact that while it might be part of the job, and a large percentage of their time spent, being a drinks dispensory is the absolute lowest of their priorities - It is "Make Work" when all other duties are covered

@@bengrogan9710 Yes, I understand what you are saying and mostly agree with it. However, to reiterate what @Madame Corgi stated in this thread, serving food and drinks is important when passengers will be on the aircraft for several consecutive hours. It is not just a "make work" activity. Nevertheless, I was responding to the original poster, who stated: _"He said that the flight attendants are there for one and only reason which is the safety of the passengers and they are not there to serve drinks and food."_ To state that a flight attendant's reason for being there is "for one and only reason" is simply not accurate. As you said, there are different priorities, but when there is no emergency and the aircraft is safely in cruise, part of a flight attendant's job description is to serve food and drinks. If a flight attendant refused to serve food and drinks on a flight where this was required by the airline, then this flight attendant would be fired, and rightly so.

Thank you so much! We do what we can

@@MentourPilot 💯👏 Thank you for providing us with world class aviation content. Amazing.

@@MentourPilot I really wish you went into the captain's court martial, not to blame anyone, you could still only report onto it. But it would still be prudent to mention that lying to the investigators is a bad idea if for no other reason that it makes everyone less safe if the exact causes aren't known.

Oh man, do you have the final report on that one?

@@MentourPilot yes, search for keywords C-130, 2 October 2015, Jalalabad Airbase incase link won’t show

If anyone can cover this tragedy, it's this channel! The best out there!

This is such an incredible story ' have an absolutely fantastic day '

@@1AnononA1 Actually there is already one video talking about the accident

Spot on Steve. Flight is enjoyable,, interesting and technically wonderful.....BUT......at root we are all in a little aluminium tube barreling-along in what is an alien environment. We would not survive for long if were not contained within that tube. The comfort of sitting in a seat, watching a film, reading, enjoying a drink and possibly looking out of the window, plays a part in taking our thoughts off what we are really doing. Many years ago Seat Belts were only worn during Take-Off and Landing.....and perhaps at such other time as the Flight Crew switched the Seat Belt Sign on......if we were paying attention. Wiser counsels and advice in more recent times tells us we should always be wearing the Seat Belt, except in the rare instances we are moving around in the cabin, say for a visit to the Lavatory. Cabin Crew / Flight Attendants are well versed in the risks and dangers of flight. In fact, perhaps contrary to popular belief, their true role is not to serve us drinks and meals, but to ensure our safety during all portions of the flight. In extremis they are responsible for getting us out of the aircraft when an emergency occurs after landing. They actually place the safety of the passengers first. They follow the procedures and practices set out as a matter of course. When something goes wrong where human actions are concerned there are Deeds of Omission and Deeds of Commission, both of which carry a varying degree of negligence. The Captain and First Officer of this flight were guilty of both in a number of ways. In some ways there are remarkable similarities with the Air France jet lost in the South Atlantic, where the Side Stick and its operation were the common denominator. Thankfully, and as a consequence of that accident, Airbus made technical adjustments to the Side Stick and the Software. These adjustments, including the fact that the Software controlled the pitch down attitude of the aircraft, saved this flight. The outcome could have been much worse.....! James Hennighan Yorkshire, England

@@jameshennighan8193 The captain was guilty indeed, specially of covering up the drop of his camera... but the FO??

@@jeanpeuplu5570 The FO maybe was absent too long from the cockpit?? I cannot see that, really, being any issue as none of this would have happened if the captain haddnt lacked the foresight to not place an object that could cause an issue in the wrong place. The captain was guilty in several ways, but the FO.....he was just enjoying the flight....

@@jeanpeuplu5570 Based upon the FO spending too much time outside the cockpit. He left the flight deck to exercise his legs yet ended up chatting to a flight attendant and then to someone else he recognised was travelling on the flight. So 18 minutes away from the flight deck. His efforts to crawl back to the cockpit on the aircraft ceiling would not have been necessary if he had not left the cockpit. He could have stretched his legs in the cockpit, or with just a brief two minute walk away from the cockpit door. We also have to ask why on earth he was stretching his legs. ? He had only been in the air for approximately 3 hours. If he wanted to leave the cockpit he could have asked the Purser to maintain a second presence on the flight deck for a short while......but 18 minutes. Whilst the Captain was negligent, it can be argued that the FO's action in leaving the cockpit played a part in encouraging the Captain to behave as he did; namely taking photographs. Had the FO been present on the flight deck there would have been a extra set of hands there to balance it counteract the Captain's actions. It could be argued that had he been there he would have seen where the Captain had placed his camera, close to the Side Stick. We fly in a thin metal tube through an alien environment which can kill us in a heartbeat. Those flying us have the responsibility to act to keep us safe. This is why procedures and rules exist for the flight deck. When those in charge of the aircraft take their eyes off the ball we are put at risk. It comes back to the actions of humans where we have Deeds of Omission and Deeds of Commission, both of which carry varying degrees of negligence. This crew were guilty of both.

And yet this lesson still needs to be learned today. Better living everyone!

Awesome! I’m glad I could be of some help!

"court-martial charges for negligently performing a duty, perjury, and making a false record." At 29:12 I was so disappointed in the captain because it sounded like he realized that the camera was the cause but was too embarrassed to tell anyone. Did he take the camera home after the flight? Did he see the new marks on the camera? and the photos that he didn't intend to take? I'm guessing that his hiding of this information is the primary reason for his court martial, not for the operational mistakes (but I don't know what's common).

@@brianwest2775 That´s probable, indeed.

I can't really watch dramatizations anymore. It feels exploitative and kind of gross. I rely on channels like Mentour Pilot for my air incident/accident documentaries now.

U have blewors for it

At left site switch board

At land fre fall focus air straight.

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Correct!

@@MentourPilot when I was young, I once realized I'd developed a habit - when driving under cruise control - of crossing my clutch foot over my throttle/brake foot. fortunately, it was an easy habit to break, and there was no incident.

Indeed.

@@kenbrown2808 If you take note there is a "Shelf" on the side of where the cluthc pedals are to give a place for that foot to relax in the footweel

@bengrogan9710 yes, but driving for 7 hours with your feet in the same place gets a little uncomfortable. Worst driving co.partmenr I've been in was a us ford transit express. The floorboards slope downhill from the seat, so the only available foot position is at the end of the footwell.

MCAS is nowhere near the same as the Airbus Electronic Flight Control System

MCAS is definitely not comparable to Airbus's protection in normal LAW. MCAS is a sloppy botch job to make the 737 max cheaper and skip the pilot retraining to attract customers, while Airbus'es protection is built to protect you from dying to dumb things. In normal LAW, you could not even crash the plane if you wanted to(besides switching to alternate LAW or direct LAW, obviously)

MCAS is nothing you can compare to Airbus protection in normal Law. MCAS is bad, Airbus protection works like magic.

@@HMSNeptun well you can still nose dive it into the ground as long as you don’t overspeed. How do you think the Germanwings pilot did it in 2015?

@@tomstravels520 I am not aware of that fact, thanks for pointing it out. I have once been on an A320 simulator before, and the way the aircraft pulled up on its own when I tried to fly the aircraft to the ground left a deep impression in my mind. The Germanwings incident shows that currently no systems on any commercial aircraft can protect against deliberate pilot action to crash the aircraft. But I wanted to reiterate that normal LAW on an Airbus can provide a predictable and stable flight control system, while MCAS was a system that made the aircraft unpredictable.

I have the same view. What a dodgy guy.

He probably didn't even think about moving his seat forward. Just an automatic, forgettable action as he switched focus back to actively piloting the plane. In such an urgent situation, thinking back to, "what is everything I was just doing" is going to take away a lot of valuable attention that could be used to move forward.

I doubt he understood the connection what his movement and the situation with the flight had.

Happy Easter!🙂👍

Maybe you would've though. The overheated motor could catch something on fire, filling the car with smoke quickly.

@@samueldavila2156 u r right. It was a Youngtimer, designed in Germany, produced in USA :)

Aww, that’s so nice to hear and knowing that you guys appreciate them makes this whole work worth while. 💕

The same kind of thing happened to me a few years ago. I was taking my car out of the garage, and suddenly it was full gas, and I couldn't control it. I spent quite some time jazzing around in my yard before I got control back again. It turned out that the little rubber mat under my feet (not nailed to the floor...) had managed to creep up onto the gas pedal, jamming it totally. Like all good pilots it never struck me that I could shut the ignition off, and then search for an explanation. I just kept holding tight on to the steering wheel, trying not to crash into anything, wondering what the whatever was going on. Ah well... Whatever else, we're both survivors! cheers! /CS And thanks to Mentour Pilot for a great series of videos!

This is why it is illegal to wear flip flops while driving in the uk they can fold and interrupt braking and acceleration this happened that is why they banned them

​@@pault1964wives tale

@@thecrazyswede2495 should have put it on neutral and use hand brake, it's already happened, but it's always good to find how to stop car in various situations

@@pault1964 it's banned in car's manual

The camera didn’t cause the issue. The person who put the camera in that spot caused the issue.

@@Lozzie74 settle down, dork.

@Greg Hammon A quick Google Search of "Air Crash Investigation" will yield you this: "Mayday, known as Air Crash Investigation(s) outside of the United States and Canada and also known as Mayday: Air Disaster (The Weather Channel) or Air Disasters (Smithsonian Channel) in the United States" from Wikipedia

@Greg Hammon This channel obtains the information about the incidents that they report on from the official reports issued by the appropriate government agencies. Anyone can access and use these reports. If multiple content creators read these reports and create videos about them, it does not necessarily mean that one content creator "ripped off" another content creator. For example, there have been many books written and numerous shows produced about the United States Civil War. However, each content creator tends to show their own perspective on the subject. No one entity is given a monopoly to report on a certain subject.

@Greg Hammon Okay, I understand now. Thank you for the clarification.

@Greg Hammon Different name for the same show, which use different narrators for different regions as many shows do. Any youtube videos are just posting the show on this site.

That would be a great topic for a video. Very interesting question.

@@BigWhoopZH Right! I'm glad others think so too.

They don't really train for this. They train for all the specific situations and when the worst comes and it is completely "off the script", unfortunatelly so many good pilots can't handle the stress that well and they start to loose focus even for the most basic things like .. checking flight instruments every minute. You have so many examples of tragedies or bad accidents here on this channel .. :( On the positive note tho, some of them are just built differentely and can be chill in literally any circumstance.

We are trained to focus on the task at hand and what procedures we can use to solve it. We try to avoid letting fear intervene as it’s not constructive.

Training training training training training and a lot of screening. Oh. And learning from all the incidents that HAVE happened. As always, many if not most of the rules are written in blood.

So glad you think so!!