The Toxic Male: Why We’ll Never Really Escape Him 

Bad boys all way rain supreme. And it's rooted in our biology. The most dangerous and aggressive males are leader across the animal Kingdom and we aren't the exception. These toxic males are more likely to dominate in many situation. However in our modern era feminine trait like emotional intelligence and stocism are what more benefituals.

This entire video is Hollywood bs. At the EOD, 'toxic masculinity' is essentially- emotional strength wanting to excel and win against your competition disagreeableness( being able to think and act for yourself) Essentially the same things that helped humanity progress from being monkeys in the dirt to putting us on the moon. When pushed to extremes or when radical feminists do the marketing, these same qualities become- "unable to show vulnerability because he's afraid" "workaholic/money-obsessed" "asshole" It's all marketing bs. And what does Brad Pitt wearing a skirt jhave to do with anything? Who cares if he wears a skirt. He is strong, good looking, talented, multimillionaire. He's attractive despite wearing the skirt not because of it. Good luck trying to be attractive to women while you're fat, poor, untalented,ugly AND wearing a skirt. And about the strong, gay dude in Last of Us. The man who cries and shows his feelings. Sure, men should be allowed to show their feelings. But try to find me a man who's considered valuable if he cries at the first sign of trouble. There is a strong way to show your feelings, you can't just go around willy-nilly crying at shit. Especially, when you're leading a group of people-cuz who the fuck wants a crybaby for a leader? There's a reason women react positively to these toxic male bad boys. And it's not to do with "conditioning". It's to do with 100,000 years of biology where women were attracted to strong men who could keep their children safe. And women can finger wag and say they wished men were 'nicer' or whatever but at the end of day these same women will be choosing these strong men as mates. Good luck trying to condition people out of their biology. In the meantime, men watching this, please don't get confused. Reject modernity, embrace masculinity.

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Men lead the world no matter how much you make the path adverse to him

The only way to survive this is to become the animals we were meant to be. Humanity is a lie. A lie to suppress us, to prevent us from being what we truly evolved to be. You thought you were a god. You though you could control the animal inside of us but all you really did was turn that animal in to the beast I have become. I no longer feel love. I only feel anger and hunger. And as I look into the eyes of my prey all I can see is the beast that you have unleashed.

Good point…it’s so common and frequent that it just becomes normalized…

I'm so glad they made that exact point in the video. The way they illustrate the issue at large and how guys turn to people like tate is anything but downplaying. honestly eye opening

Women allow men like Tate to exist.

Well, They just detained him for another month so I highly doubt that he is actually a criminal.

A damn fine point.

If you watch the series he actually ends up being pretty normal. Like a dopey teenager.

@@Aaron-kj8dv if you watch the series he ends up getting fucked by his own savior complex

[spoilers] .... ... ... We all expected Albie to play the "nice guy" trope that turns out to be a toxic male, but turns out he really is just a nice guy, a little too idealistic, hypocritical, and with rich privelage to top it off. For $50,000 he could rescue a prostitute. Is that toxic masculinity? I don't think so. There's nothing wrong with wanting to rescue someone you think is in real danger. He admits to his father that it could be a scam, but that it doesn't matter because they're so rich that the money means nothing to them, but could mean the world to her. He considered it Karmic Justice for his father cheating on his wife. Also turns out, he already spoke to his mom prior to making this deal with his father, so he wasn't even selling out his mom. Again, Mike White subverting the audiences expectations like a genius.

Yup! He was eager to play the savior role to Lucia, never mind that he would’ve been a position of control over he had she not played him. It’s a different form of domination but playing the savior is a form of superiority complex

It's called the sneaky fucker phenomenon. In the animal kingdom some males can inhibit their masculine traits to get close to the female without her noticing or the dominant male, then force sex on females in the right moment.

It’s honestly so painful, jarring and gross as a SA survivor to see how society loves, lust after and is curious to know grapists stories and is quick to empathize, infantilize and glorify…

@@Thepriestessdeath cough cough Jeffrey dahmer cough cough

Being neutral helps the stronger side, and that's usually the worse side.

Neutrality enables conservativism. When conservatism is cringe (and it often is), neutrality is cringe.

you take very attractive actors to play these characters, which means they are going to be se[ualized immediately and no matter what)

totally true, but the algorithm will mostly show you what you wanna see. It's a loop, a death loop

This is incorrect though the algorithm only feeds you back what retains peoples interest. These guy's get popular not because the algorithms boost them artificially. But instead the algorithm boosts them because they are popular. If you click on cat videos the whole day the algorithm will feed you cat videos the whole day.

Bro, don't blame the algorithms. The algorithm doesn't make lefties group up and bully someone who TANGENTIALLY reminds them of a misogynyst or a transphobe or a homophobe for a straight hour. . . . .

@@bigpapichampagne745 It's been well documented how tribalism and conspiracy theories can grow more popular due to the way social media feeds boost provocative information. This isn't only individual choice, its the systems of communication people work in.

I love your profile picture. And you are correct, outrage is more profitable than mild and rational thinking. More outrage means more comments, more views, more discussion. People don't realice how much they feed the monster trying to antagonize it.

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Both are toxic though? I don't think it's making the statement that they are the same point on the toxic spectrum.

@@pflynn623 it's immature, not toxic. Most things categorized as "toxic masculinity" are just things people under 25 do because everyone is an immature weenie at that age.

i dont think that toxic males are those who cant regulate their emotions. we dont shit on males who are sad, angry, overwhelmed or depressed. toxic males are those who peddle the hate of supremacy. i would also call a woman who mocks a man's emotions toxic. that doesnt mean i would compare her to an abuser or child molester.

The two are not exclusive nor are they the same. There is lots of overlap. A man who is not capable of regulating their emotions could very well become a sexual predator.

Lol! Good point 😀

He's considered toxic because of all the claims of sexual assault, not for wearing a skirt. He's hardly the only cis man who's been making that fashion choice in the last few decades, in fact I wouldn't have even thought of him initially if asked to make a list.

@@thegirlabides6851 the point is that wearing a skirt or dress alone shouldn’t be held up as not being toxic. They brought up Brad Pitt in that section and he was literally accused of drunkenly attacking his family on a private plane last October.

That part. Toxicity is just the tip of the ice burg when it comes to that dude. In fact there are alot of bros that would consider him a "soyboy"

Exacty. This entire video is posturing. Fact is at the EOD, 'toxic masculinity' is essentially- emotional strength wanting to excel and win in their fields disagreeableness(essentially being able to think and act for yourself) When pushed to extremes or when radical feminists do marketing, these same qualities become- "unable to show vulnerabity because he's afraid" "workaholic/money obsessed" "asshole" It's all marketing bs. There's a reason women react positively to these toxic male bad boys. And it's not to do with "conditioning". It's do with 100,000 years of biology. Good luck trying to condition people out of their biology.

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I think that's nice, but it's also a bit problematic in this video that they mention positive masculinity and then show only two gay characters. It gives the impression that male heterosexuality itself is viewed as toxic. That will just drive more men into the arms of toxic influencers. We need positive gay role models in the media, but we also need positive hetero role models.

@@jonaskeller6399 good callout. 💯

Agreed

Same here

He wasn't canceled tho. He was arrested for human trafficking. His fans still support him.

Your life maybe but I don’t have the privilege of being better off not knowing these types of dudes exist and neither do all their victims…to some people he and his follower may have just been annoying but to other people it’s scary, it’s traumatizing, night terrors, flashbacks, panic attacks that will haunt them for the rest of their life…and he is one of many and it’s important we know these MEN (again MANY) exist.

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Thank you!

You have to be insane to think that Nate Jacob’s is intended as a glorification of toxic masculinity

@@toshcameron366 Unfortunately, there will always be some people who have no sense of analysis and just think that showing *anything* that’s hard to digest = glorifying.

I think they're referring to the fact that the framing of some of these characters seems weird. Like casting super hot guys and saying textually that they're wrong but showing them with their shirts off in pretty lights and stuff. Like the framing contradicts the text.

@@alim.9801 ao toxic men are only supposed to be ugly, unattractive, and unappealing? We all know that's not true

I always think about Zuko and Iroh, thank you for verbalizing it.

Characters like Walter White, Thomas Shelby, Rick Sanchez and such are not to be idolized, even the characters say so themselves. The writers intend them to be not idolized. However the actors playing them do have a certain charm and gravitas that attracts the audience. These incredibly talented actors are often overlooked for their characters.

Yea getting your face burned is mentorship from a positive male role model

​@@octavioavila6548he was talking about his Uncle Iroh, not his father, seems like you don't really know how the show goes

Sorry, but I'm in the minority who finds Iroh to be full of shit. So i wouldn't place him as a positive male role model

I mean just look at how women were heating up over Jeffrey Dahmer when the series premiered,he even had his own reddit forum

So basically its porn. Its a safe fantasy you experience from a far and if you're not careful your expectations of it leak into real life and how you view real relationships

IRL many women (especially young ones) fall for the same type of guy. It also has to do with the self confidence and drive that these types of men have.

Didn't a lot of people show up at the real-life Ted Bundy's trial though? I suppose he was incarcerated, but still -- he did tend to break out. Honestly, I think a lot of this is that BOTH sexes are not yet wired/evolved to ideally live in today's urban society. A majority of men have a need to protect when there is no need to protect (when there is you generally call the cops -- marginalized neighborhoods notwithstanding, of course), while a majority of women have a need to feel protected when there is less of a need to be protected than at any point in human civilization. So when there is nothing to protect/be protected from, what do men and women do? CREATE OR REWARD THE CREATION OF PROBLEMS so they can find the opportunities to let the roles play out.

Funnily enough this is what the Red Pill talks about. How women like bad boys and how the 30% get all the women. Because women like the same type of ideal man

I think the idea that there has to be a set roles of provider\breadwinner is reductive and I’ve found that it’s often women that reinforce this role. They want a guy with a certain salary and body type (which I thought we as progressives where trying to make more realistic and accepting) all which play into these toxic tropes. Some guys feel the need to be toxic just to get women’s attention. A weird damned if you do and damned if you don’t where everyone loses.

@@gabrielidusogie9189 so basically your point is that men need to be toxic because women don't give certain men attention? i'm sorry but if a man feels the "need to be toxic" perhaps he should look inward on himself...

@@chaaaargh not toxic but feel the need to look up to certain toxic people. I’m not speaking for myself but from what I’ve observed. And you’re right, men should should inward but what’s happening outward could use some extra pairs of eyes as well.

As a guy, I'd like to be wooed, too. But that just isn't offered very often except by other men, which I'm not into

​@@chaaaarghmaybe not you but some women are indeed attracted to toxic men

Exactly. They are making their money by trying what's trendy. Dressing differently doesn't make somebody a good person.

@@talkingtochapri exactly! Like speaking as a queer dude, a straight white celebrity wearing a skirt isn’t doing anything to help the cause. Actual queer ppl been transgressive like that for over a century. If Pitt really wanted to help, he would’ve helped support his wife & other woman Weinstein victimized.

Communism is needed to destroy feminism which is a plague promoted by a disgusting capitalist system.

THANK YOU I just commented how shocked I was to see Brad Pitt at the end of the video

He also helped Gwyneth paltrow from such men. Einstein had s big empire wirh hsi hands in almost eveything. Everyone has worked with him in some capacity. I dont like Brad but let's not start hating people for wrong reasons. He is shitty enough for cheating on his wife and then some.

This is such a great point.

THANK YOU!

Isn't risk taking how we survived as a species?

This channel is part of the problem. Boys and young men are screaming out help, and women are saying there isn't a problem. They are doing the same thing men did in the past, but they are supposed to be better

@@Chris-rg6nm women aren't saying there isn't a problem. We're saying it is your problem and you need to be called out and do the work to get it fixed.

Sounds to me like the problem is assuming that Brad Pitt wearing women's clothing one day of his life is an attempt to replace the standard of masculinity, rather than an attempt to expand it to be more inclusive to people who are marginilized. I don't expect "broinfluencer" followers to have that much going on upstairs, considering how lucrative the supplement scam is.

Fr really shows how out of touch they are with what appeals to us

What does clothing have to do with being self imporving & valuable to look up to? Would a man wearing a suit be better even if he's full of bull? It's shallow & shows how restrictive we see "good" men or men in general.

@@user-ooop get that whataboutism out of here

@@venicec3310 I think your're just missing the point.

Yes!

Honestly they made him creepy at first but then he turned out to be more sympathetic. No complaints though, I like more complex characters. But I didn’t feel that their primary goal was to show a cautionary tale.

It’s been a while since I watched the show, which guy are you talking about again?

@@rasina1296 Peter - the love interest of Miss Jessel. When he used Miles (the little kid) it was super creepy. I like that the show kind of had a thing with putting the “good”/loving people in their favorite memories when they died but the bad/angry/hate-filled people in their worst or most painful memories. It was so creative.

@@Like_maria How was peter sympathetic?

Not the ones that invested in cat litter and boxed wine stocks

Yeah life is stressful enough I’m not dealing with another adults issues

@@Rage-_-Quit Shut it, incel.

​@@Rage-_-Quit Well investing in cats & distillery business is better than investing in a manchild who can't even wash his own socks.

Why don't those men desperate for marriage & parenthood, just marry each other and adopt kids out there ????

I disagree about the hashtag and papers part but I agree with everything else you said.

I was talking to a coworker the other day and we were talking about how comfortable we are being assholes as we get older. I used the example of being in the gym and someone trying to have a conversation with me where before I'd be polite and kind of passive and hint that I need to workout and now I'm like "listen dude, I'm not here to chit chat or have girl talk, I'm here to workout so leave me alone".

The consequences of asshole behavior is getting laid. And men will continue to learn from that.

People always have to fight for their rights on every level, after all it's human nature to be opportunistic and selfish, cruel even.. Some more some less. We need to take responsibility for us and our safety and take action. Always.

Yes but the toxic masculinity assholes are more systemic based

Couldn’t have said it better. I’m trying to become a writer to call Out the rise of toxic masculinity. I truly think as a feminist men and women need to build each other up and not tear each other down.

There are many waves of feminism, some of them are really toxic and have a hate men mentality. I'm a Christian myself and I'm very critical of some of what the Church and our members do. Just because you are a female doesn't mean you can't criticize or scrutinize feminism. You should be critical of everything.

That's correct, they are a lot of women who are against any hint of feminism or women's rights.

@@bibianaguadalupeislasherre9880While also benefiting from women’s rights.

@@Felicite-Etoile its like crying about capitalism while also benefiting from capitalism

Internalized misogyny

No lol. 😐😑.

"It's ok when we do it"

Plus, the only reason why he can get away with wearing a skirt is because he's famous and attractive. If a guy who isn't famous and attractive decides to wear a skirt, people would judge and bash him for it.

He’s so cringe. So much about publicity and crafting his image as a likable edgy guy. His and Angelina adopting kids from Asia and Africa is part of an egotistical white savior vision of themselves 🙄

Same thing with bad bunny doing that cornball shit. Funny how people cant see that lgqbt issues have essentially been monetized into a marketing ploy

I'm so happy Andy Tate got arrested.

Why?

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Thank you so much for writing this. I needed that!

Thank you for this.

The first part you said is correct. I am a black woman and I think of how in Martin Luther Kings lifetime, he was disliked by most Americans. Now, look at things. He's considered a hero and his impact has improved the condition of our people in many ways. Sure we still face a lot of issues, but we've come a long way. Similarly, these regressive beliefs are being held on to by a loud group of people precisely because they are dying off.

@@a.d.w8385 yes exactly!! Not at all surprised how there’s been an insurgence in yt supremacist groups after BLM in 2020

STRAIGHT UP FACTS I mean there’s also Shane from Season one who’s also a toxic man who is in fact an entitled man baby from a Rich family who’s too focused on winning the Battle with its season Resident Manager Armond over the rights on getting the right room whom he made it clear he’d booked it while ignoring his newlywed wife’s feelings The hard working and Grounded middle class Rachel

that's where they lost me

Alibe actually was NOT toxic. It's easy to assume he's the "nice guy" trope when we're first introduced to him. So when he decides to use $50,000 to rescue a prostitute from her pimp, we all thought this confirms our bias that he's a toxic guy. But, Is that toxic? I don't think so. There's nothing wrong with wanting to rescue someone you think is in real danger. He admits to his father that it could be a scam, but that it doesn't matter because they're so rich that the money means nothing to them, but could mean the world to her. He considered it Karmic Justice for his father cheating on his wife. He was willing to let someone keep $50,000 for scamming him, and not even file a police report. If this is toxic masculinity, then please send it my way. Also, turns out, he already spoke to his mom before making this deal with his father, so he wasn't even selling out his mom. Mike White was subverting the audiences expectations again. Albie talked to his mom, probably because he was willing to help out his father after warming up to him over the course of their vacation. Relationships are complex. We also don't know what exactly what he told his mother. Albie's flaw is every man's flaw, his achilles cock. He thinks he's better than his father and grandfather because he learned about toxic masculinity, but he still glances at hot girls, just like them, and he still tries to buy off girls, just like them. Though, he's different, in that he really is trying to do the right thing for women. He at the very least attempts to understand the issues that women face. Even if at the core of it, his cock is what's driving these decisions, because perhaps there's no escape from that biological desire. He's much more complex and not as bad as some people make him out to be.

This is the big one. Add that to single motherhood rates rising. The disadvantages young boys have when they don’t have a male role model is catastrophic. When young boys look for role models, can we really get mad at them for looking to Andrew Tate?

It's honestly because the "real life" ones are so often just insecure pretenders. Confidence doesn't boast. So all these self-proclaimed "badasses" are just so annoying.

Thank you for sharing this real perspective! From what I've read up on for how men struggle today, you've hit the nail on the head. The promise of if you just adhere to the masculine ideal, everything will work out in your favor is just not true for most men and its super disappointing. Whether its struggling to get a good job, have fun sex, or have fulfilling connections with others, lots of what men are taught to be doesn't create those opportunities. What i'll say is that men are deserving of love and support from their communities. My two cents would be to encourage you to 1) let the people in your life know you appreciate them and how they help you grow as a person. 2) learn what kind of pleasure would be satisfying for you and take pride in knowing that s*x can be more than power and control. 3) Try seeing how other's accomplishments will help you and your community too, rather than seeing everything as a competition to be won or lost. Life can be really hard and painful but removing your idea of yourself from hierarchical thinking can really make a difference.

@@robinita46853 thank you for you advice. Thank you also for being understanding. I appreciate it.

I have also, in my mind, linked the problematic toxic men to mass shootings. They seem to be getting worse and at the same time of hearing about all these shootings, the growing number of incels and alphas seems to be present too.

Then are women better at dealing with mental health problems? I don't think I have ever heard of a mass shooting committed by a girl.

The constraints of gender roles and capitalism really harm everyone, including men. They are taught to be strong and “manly” but women are looking for sensitive, emotionally available guys. They’re losing their purpose in society, where working hard and doing well doesn’t mean you get a partner or happy life. We’re all lost, but men are having a harder time dealing with it because seeking help make them feel weak, a big no-no. We need to change the way we think about these issues all together.

The Take used to be really on point when it came to not crossing the line. But lately, that has not been the case. I wonder if they've lost some of their better writers?

They even showed the joker as like "this is toxic masculinity" where in the movie, I thought, they made it clear he was severely mentally ill and needed help.

@@shitty80smovielover the minute they started putting out shorter videos more frequently (which started a few months ago I believe), the writing and writing quality has felt immediately and significantly different.

@@shitty80smovielover it doesn't help that most of their videos are half the length they used to be.

Good point. That was real intellectual laziness

Women need to stop giving toxic males attention.

To add to this. Lonely boy sees media where lonely Nice Boy/Nice Guy gets gets girl or girl gets shows interest in him for...reasons(it's wish-fulfilment). Lonely boy gets inspired and acts nice expecting reward missing the point that fictional nice guys are nice as a matter of course and not because of expectations of reward. This leads to growth in bitterness and nihilism thinking that being nice is fake BS acts put on by people as well as toxic views of male displays of softness, compassion, and emotional openess.

being nice for the sake of getting accepted by girl or anyone is the real problem

and women also give attention(power) to Toxic male

@@boss.k1504 Yeah, d*mb females giving this dude attention is a huge problem.

I agree. Today men think that providing for a family means primarily being a financial wage slave. In reality fathers are needed in the home to model for their sons what it means to be responsible adults.

Hard agree on some parts because I made the connection myself after my own experiences that as much as some women may want you to open up, the moment you do that later on, the few time you do open up, they will then call you toxic, or centering, or fragile to your face, and it’s funny enough feminist that do this, where they preach for men to open up more if your a male, but once you do, they will call you fragile and either blame you or the patriarchy (men) for your problems but mainly blame you, and will usually blame you for your problems or experiences because you are a male.

Art is a reflection of reality

The video never says masculinity is inherently toxic. Being toxic through the power of being a man is what toxic masculinity is. The only way to let boys grow up into good, kind and strong people is to critique real and fictional bad examples. Also wtf do you want them to analyze then? It’s a media analysis channel, and also Media INFLUENCES reality. They also do use statistics literally halfway through the video they cite a study)

Add women realising they do all the work, and you have the perfect storm

Everyone went crazy during the pandemic. How else can people go from "stay in, you're killing grandma!" To "we need to march because racism is the real disease" in like 12 hours? People lost their minds

@@SlayerNinaFriki men do more work than women

@@fate8007 Not inside the house. There are several studies about work outside and how women also take the load of the house and emotional chores (and some men tasks, like being their agendas and secretaries)

No they don’t. In the US it’s both partners work but it’s still on the woman to take care of the home and children. Women don’t want to be overworked and men can’t afford to provide so women are just deciding to be single and not have children.

Such as?

@@LilacSreya if he is physically, verbally, emotionally or economically abusive, jealous, controlling, a liar, talks behind your back, changes who he is...

I don't know if that line if thinking holds up. Is it true for women who say toxic feminity isn't real? Or you can do the same thing with the races .

@@Aaron-kj8dv it is true for women. if a woman says she does not know of any toxic woman who is a misandrist, then she is lying. they are way less common than raging misogynists, but they do exist. and why would she lie about it? to excuse it, and maybe even to excuse herself.

toxic masculinity does not exist. Toxic men exist

@@fate8007 if there are toxic men, then there is toxic masculinity. those are not men who happen to be toxic, those are men who behave in a toxic way due to their beliefe in male supremacy.

@@marykay7878 those men who believe men are superior to women aren't masculine. So it can't be toxic masculinity

THANK YOU!

Like no he shouldn’t be roasted for wearing a skirt, (allegedly) terrorizing his ex wife and children however puts him firmly in toxic masculinity territory.

brad pitt is not an abuser

​@AA BB Angelina Jolie came forward with evidence that he physically abused her and one of their sons, it was the inciting incident leading to their divorce. It's been swept under the rug more or less. From what I understand he was dealing with alcohol issues at the time but a lot of people have chosen just to ignore it or blame her due to her background.

Why some women would complain if a guy its too nice? Wtf Many women like bisexual men or men with femenine traits also. But anyway, both are the problem in this, men & women.

When men start a war, they deserve to die in it

And nobody talks about this. People seriously try to emulate that character who is very clearly self destructive and who hates himself because he’s played by cillian Murphy and he wears nice suits and gets cool background music accompanying him.

tommy shelby is wonderful though

@@fate8007 No argument there. The problem, in my opinion, is the character is not understood as he is intended to be. The writers do not intend, at least I interpret it so, for him to be emulated. He’s supposed to be tragic, a man who cannot find peace and love and happiness, because of what a life of fighting has done to him. This character has been taken and made a symbol of toxic masculinity, of making the woman who left you play for it by becoming successful and soulless. It’s sad that the point, I think, has been entirely missed.

@@ajustice I got my dad into Peaky Blinders and I kinda regret it because he is very guilty of this and very unaware of it. I do think that the framing is meant to be murky on purpose, a mask of sorts, but it’s unfortunate most viewers take it as text without understanding the subtext.

Oh noooo that's not good 😭

Theyre rhetoric has always been there its only now its fully out in the surface

It's almost like nature doesn't care about feelings

@@rodgermurphy5721 It never did. The law of nature is to survive or die

If the goal is to make sure overall we have less toxic masculinity in the world maybe let's try to not aliante people who are doing just that. We need to give people the space to turn around and move towards a healthier attitude.

Violence, mental health issues, and weaponized incompetence are not uniqueness. Just like with literally everything else in society, there needs to be standards for acceptable and unacceptable behavior for every community. Unacceptable behavior is not men's uniqueness and it's harmful to men to imply it is. Telling each other what you need to look like, how you need to dress, etc. is definitely stifling however. If you can get your "man card" taken for wearing a skirt, then you're perpetuating the idea that masculinity is conditional. That you are not born a man, you have to kill parts of yourself to become one and to "maintain" masculinity. Those things seem designed to create a culture of peer-policing which is unhealthy af. You then can't feel safe with each other. Standards for behavior and gender policing are markedly different. The need for the word toxic masculinity needs to exist SO that masculinity itself isn't what's labelled as toxic. That makes it clear you can absolutely be a healthy masculine person.

I remember reading somewhere that progress is often met with an increase in more regressive beliefs because disturbing their grasp of power makes them insecure & they desperately try to reassert it through anger & fear. So I just tell myself that if there is all this backlash, then women must be doing something right. It also helps me sleep at night knowing that I get to see strong female & nonbinary unity through my lifetime and won’t go out believing that there will never be a place for me in this world like the other women in my family did. We have a tool that other feminist movements have never had in the past: widespread unity across the globe. There is strength in numbers & we have never dissected patriarchy like we are doing rn. It is depressing af and not good enough but it brings me an ounce of peace knowing that I’ll get to experience more support for speaking out against sexism than any of our ancestors ever did, even if we are still met with the same amount of backlash from men

Extremely well put

how are males made to feel small and useless

@@dolldeer I'm not sure about education systems across other countries but across the US, Canada and UK, education is generally catered towards girls rather than boys. The statistics they gave in this video are useful for understanding that. Also, looking at current pop-culture, there is commonly a condescending depiction of men and boys as silly, stupid, butt-of-the-joke, or just plain useless characters who need to learn from those around them (in contrast to many perfect/overpowered women). Obviously, there are always exceptions, but modern feminism doesn't exactly do anything to make peace with the battle of the sexes

​@@abispanner3957 It used to be that women wouldn't go to school, and at the time, school was made by men for men. Then when women entered school they just beat the boys in terms of grades. So it doesn't really prove that school was made for girls. Personally, my intuition is just that boys tend to defy authority more and are more hyperactive, while girls are more calm and obedient, which leads to better grades. From my own experience, boys tended to miss school more, take more drugs, play more video games which would all get in the ways of study. It could also be the way they get parented that leads to lower grades, maybe people are more strict on girls. In my school I was in a class full of girls because I was in art, and the other class was a sport class which was full of boys. It was well known that classes with more girls in it were easier to teach to because girls were more obedient. I would actually argue that it's toxic masculinity that keeps boys from having better grades. Also there's the fact that women mature faster physically than boys, which means the boys will be small and frail while the girls are already fully formed, which will make boys feel insecure because they biologically take more time to mature. I also saw a study that shows that girls had better grades in school that are girls-only, while boys had lower grades in schools that were boys-only. When girls were mixed with boys, the girls had lower grades and the boys had higher grades. So for a girl it's better to be in a girls-only school but for boys it's better to mix them with girls. I think that disproves that school favors girls. "depiction of men and boys as silly, stupid, butt-of-the-joke, or just plain useless characters who need to learn from those around them (in contrast to many perfect/overpowered women)" I think that's a selection bias. You probably refer to comedy shows that tend to depict men as idiots and women as exasperated by men, but you forget ALL THE OTHER MOVIES, like Avengers, Star Wars, Lord of the rings, all the BIG franchise that everyone watches, all the main characters are strong,, couurageous male lead, far from being weak, meak and silly, while women are often portrayed as "side chicks" who do literally nothing. When there's a main female lead it's called "progressist".

@@thisisntallowed9560 we'll have to agree to disagree since we seem to be looking at different evidence. But in terms of using the past to justify putting men down doesn't help anyone. And regarding the movies - star wars is 1980s (and i find that almost every 80s movie has bad characters - terrible role models for men and badly written female characters, though at least Leah stands up for herself somewhat). Lord of the Rings is early 2000s (not current culture) and Avengers is a mix of female and male characters but plenty of overpowered females (which makes them less relatable). Also, when we consider recent movies/TV shows of the same franchises - all of them have overpowered female characters and almost all of them have stupid men (Rings of Power, Thor Love/Thunder, almost all the new star wars properties, the list goes on). I have no problems with female leads or male leads, I just want a fair balance where characters a relatable rather than this 'revenge' mentality that tries to put men down just because women were looked down on in the past

How about cancelling both? I have no patience for self-important billionaires who laugh about making children cry and denies the humanity and dignity of people, and then turn around and play the victim despite having enough influence to topple politicians. Nothing to do with sexism. Rowling is a great example of toxic femininity. Would love a video on that too. (Toxic femininity, that is, not Rowling specifically.)

Jacob was worse because he kissed Bella against her will tho.

@@lookitskatiex yeah, and that whole imprinting thing throughout the book and with renesme.

About 90 percent of the characters in the series toxic to their cores.

@@darkstorm0433 except Charlie. i will defend that man!

@@annaissodone Yeah, the parents, large in part, are the only normal functioning people within that world.

There's so many issues with the animanga community and various shows that your post is only scratching the tip of the iceberg. Even characters that are unmistakably badass in regular masculine ways(Guts, Kenshiro, Jonathan Joestar, Sugimoto, Tanjiro, Luffy, etc.) get reduced to just those traits. The fact that many are kind and compassionate as well as openly showing of various softer emotions(laughter, crying due to grief or sadness, and general emotional vulnerability) gets barely acknowledged if at all. This also ties into the idea that a "real man" can't be or isn't supposed to be soft or emotional or can't be.

​@@doomrider7 And the sexualization of teenagers and it's normalized.

@@laylamorrison9596 It's fine to discuss topics of sex and sexuality and some cases of ecchi are okay...but most aren't and it veers into some gross creepy shit. Even ignoring that, it veers into a lot of expectations that aren't how relationships work.

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This comparison doesn't work. Things like spreading gossip and throwing shade aren't things that women claim for themselves as desirable traits. They're part of misogynistic stereotypes about women, ie that all women are bitchy and shallow. A lot of "masculine" traits and behaviors like being aggressive, demeaning women, not being sensitive, etc. ARE things that men themselves have historically promoted as positive traits and important to their identities. It's why "masculinity" is now being criticized.

You know for centuries gossip was considered a sin, right? You know women still get slut shamed and victim blamed, right? Femininity has always been under attack.

You made great point

Self-care, because men should matter to themselves, no matter how much feminist invalidation we face in the world.

Pick the right girl and you'll see she hates toxicity

Yes!

What about his multiple takes on women that just point out how misogynistic he is ?

@@fairuzz5554 What takes? He's often strawmanned

Also him saying the most misogynistic stuff ever And Dude doesn't practices what he preaches 😔

​@@fairuzz5554it is

And also men not being allowed to show emotions with out ridicue from fellow men equating men being emotional to being emasculated that leaves men with no safe outlet to express emotion and so it builds up and explodes onto women

​@@juliannehannes11 1. Men aren't the only ones who police male emotion. 2. Men are victimised by violence 2-4x as much as women are.

Neither is the Joker. It's like the Take is asking not to be taken seriously!

If I remember correctly, he used to watch her sleep before she knew about it. Plus, he had sex with a human, knowing full well that if he lost control, he could kill her. He's, I don't know, a hundred years old? And she is a teenager. He doesn't care for consent, the thing is that he is so controlling and manipulative (and pretty) that people forget how much he disregards Bella's wellfare.

​​​​​​@@tlf2818 1) yeah IRL that's super creepy, but considering that all Bella is concerned about is wether or not he heard her talk in her sleep it's also a useless argument. It's hard to feel uncomfortable with something that the point-of-view character has absolutely no problem with. Or even considers. 2) He didn't want to have sex with her for exactly that reason. Bella more or less pressures him into it because SHE is the thirsty one. He has the most PG behavior (sexuality wise). In fact, sex isn't even mentioned until Bella voices her desire for it somewhere in the third book. 3)The whole "but he is so old" is stupid. If he actually *acted* like he was that old it would be different but he is very clearly supposed to be a teen. Its the same with anime. Just because you tell me that that 12 yo looking girl is thousand years old doesn't mean the main character can just lust after her without me thinking he is a problematic pedo. The people creating those characters often dont get what being that old would actually do with a person. They are not actually writing ancient people. 4) Yeah, he is controling. By far not as bad as Christian but that's a rather low bar to clear, I suppose. The only thing that makes it a little better is that most of these instances happen when Bella very obviously wants to martyr herself. She honestly has the self-preservation of a lemming. 5) Where does he not take consent seriously? I have never heard that argument before and am wondering how it came up?

I agree and I also didn't like how they mentioned Edward in the sense that in a love triangle they always chose the toxic one. I'd say Jacob is way more toxic and as he actually assaults Bella and kisses her without her consent and is not sorry.

@@ForeverRememberable I think the problem is that he (Jacob) started out as the more acceptable choice (yknow, the "funny-guy" who you can laugh with. The one who has seen you at your worst and still sticks by you) and then suddenly took a nosedive to sexual harasser and nice-guy™. So by the point he had turned bad people didn't want to aknowledge the sudden change. Edit: yeah, that kiss scene was where any compassion for both him and Charlie completely died for me.

@@lexa2310 yeah I see exactly what you mean. Personally I was never a fan of Jacob and once he shifted the first time he became a completely unlikeable person but I believe by that time Stephanie Meyer was already in love with Jacob and since we're reading it through Bella's eyes it doesn't come across like Jacob is bad to a lot of people. I wasn't a fan of Jacob the moment Bella chose Edward and Jacob couldn't respect that, even at the end of New Moon he's like that so by the time he kissed Bella was I already disgusted with him and had no sympathy for him. I am really disappointed in how Stephanie Meyer wrote Charlie's reaction though because even though he hates Edward and like Jacob it just doesn't seem in character for him to react that way. I love Charlie but that ruined book Charlie for me, movie Charlie is better than book Charlie though.

Whether you intended to or not, your comment planted another seed of doubt for victims. That’s like saying Amber Heard destroys all credibility for female victims of abuse. Statistically, there is evidence indicating these crimes happen on a disproportionate level, with males being the usual perpetrator. The majority of violent/sexual crimes in the United States alone are perpetrated by males on average higher than vice versa. That is a fact. How does a minority % of women falsely accusing *or* perpetrating abuse, or even being dramatic greatly outweigh the credibility of hundreds of thousands of other victims? Even false accusations on average are dismissed in court, despite men hyping it up to be a regular occurrence. Before cancel culture, we had the Me Too Movement. But who exactly took that movement seriously besides feminist? Notice how men and conservative women immediately shut them down and accused them of lying for attention. A movement for victims will always be dismissed in a patriarchal world. After all, it’s just a movement full of bitter, lying whores with an agenda to destroy an innocent man’s reputation, right?

THIS

Thank you! Women literally destroyed this movement and instead of trying to improve it, they just yell at people for not wanting to be an “ally"

Yes just blame women. Has nothing to do with men and their fragile egos going around literally raping and murdering women beyond measure and failing to even recognize or penalize these crimes…🙄

100%

trans women are just toxic men

The LGBTQ is known for having a lot of domestic violence but nobody talks about it.

They also went after Paul Saladino. He’s literally just a doctor that promotes the carnivore diet just like the liver king. These guys don’t belong

Audiences like what they like, they don't give two shits about art, progress or improving society

Deep down society abhors weakness