The TRUE Case of Seo Soojin (two years later) 

watching this makes me sad for her all over again. She was such a STAR, she was on her way to being a top idol that everyone loved and she loved everyone. She’s still is my ultimate bias of all time ♥️

the thing that upsets me the most about this is how unprofessional shin ae went about this. i understand she may have felt wronged seeing her “bully” receive so much love but to make all these subliminal accusations when you know how intense the public can be with this kind of thing was so spiteful. it really didn’t have to be this way. and the fact that soojin came out with a CLEAR letter addressing everything and taking accountability for her own mistakes should’ve stopped the anger towards her in their tracks. when has an idol accused of bullying ever done something like that? you could see how genuine and transparent she was being in hopes that people would understand and how much she wanted to stay. this was her *dream* .just so sad

I really miss her. Her stage presence was so captivating. She is a real life fertility Goddess

I feel like one of the things that sadly made her weak and all of this is her honesty. I've seen many responses from idols with the different accusations, Soojin was by far the only who actually elaborated the problem she had with the accuser. Soojin also admitted that she had done some mistakes and wasn't the best student, which gave haters a reason to hate but to me it was clear evidence that the accusations were false, like why would she admit such things that would set her up? And the firmness in her saying that she would leave the group if found guilty and even asking the actress to speak out was a clear behaviour of someone who knew they weren't guilty. And while people claim that the conversation between seo shinae and the Neverland was prolly false, tell me why SHE didn't come out and say that it was false? Her silence says it all. SSA knew damn well that it would ruin Soojin and when it was already done she shook it off and acted as if it wasn't her fault. And she knew what she was doing when refusing to use Soojin's name in her accusation. And if you take a look at every claim in this story, the only person that never changed their version was Soojin. Every single accuser had come back to say something different that didn't add up to their previous claim. Overall this is a really upsetting thing to me cuz I have a feeling we will see Seo Soojin as a star again. Gidle without her just isn't the same. Kpop without her isn't the same. I honestly had to take a break from kpop because of this huge injustice I could only witness and do nothing about.

The fact that these alleged victims have threatened to kill Soojin multiple times says it all to me. I think they were consumed by jealousy and envy of her success. Threatening her life is absolutely disgusting.

still can’t believe seo shinae helped in ruining her career

Seo Shin Ae absolutely made my blood boil! Assuming she made a mistake and truly thought everything about Soojin was true, when she found out she was wrong about Soojin being in the group of bullies. she should have at least publicly clarified that and kept stuff to facts. I would believe Seo Shin Ae was a bully before I would believe Soojin was. I didn't care too much about Soojin because Yuqi was my bias and I loved Soyeon and Miyeon in K/DA, but when all this broke, so did my heart. Justice for Soojin!!! Thanks fo the video!

Justice for Soojin 🙏

Soojin's impact on the industry and the void she left just speak on how loved she was and still is ! I miss her so much... I've lost all certainty around a come back. She was put through so much and suffered because of misogyny and jealousy. At this point I just hope she's happy and healthy ! I still dream of her showing herself to the public again, or at least create an IG account (she could disable comments).

I find it interesting that the idols accused of bullying are pretty much always considered to be the visuals of their group. I also find it interesting that the girls that have been accused have all been kicked out of their groups while the males have not.

I'm an OG Neverland (as in I started stanning during LATATA era), and I always sided with Soojin. The moment Victim C's sister spoke up, I could smell a smear-campaign because of (G)I-DLE's success. Aside from the fact why they're only speaking up the moment (G)I-DLE was killing the chart list, I am a victim of school bullying, and I thought some of their allegations like the theft were absolutely ridiculous. According to them it happened in front of the school gates... Where everyone could see. Even most idiotic teens will do something they know is a crime not in front of the entire school, and I had a kid in my year dealing drugs who I suspected was involved with drug cartels because I lived nearby a drug cartel's HQs and he knew all about a rivalling drug cartel and their beef with the one I lived close to in a way that implies inside knowledge and that he was involved with the rival gang. I was cyberbullied amongst things for making a comment about him and his friend group being trash as one of my classmates was involved and my entire class + their friend group seemed to defend their actions. Mind you, he and said classmate literally threatened the life of a kid in the year below us who caught them dealing but I suppose when you and your friend group are the most popular in school the threat on a first year's life isn't that important. They were stupid assholes, but they weren't that stupid to do it where a teacher could see. If the kid wasn't brave enough to snitch despite the threat on his life, they wouldn't have been caught. In that instance, I wished my school had acted a bit more like the Koreans because both were only suspended for a few days, not even a week. The fact she actually admitted to smoking, and had a different perspective of some things, to me was the proof of her innocence. Why would she say things that could risk her career (which she still had at the time), by admitting she used to smoke when idol culture is very much anti-smoking? Why would she admit to some things, and defend herself against the more ridiculous claims? That's the way someone who is speaking the truth and owns up to the mistakes they did make would act.

I kind of heard what happened to Soojin back then, but I wasn’t a fan of Idle until recently. With the amount of false accusations that came out in Kpop industry in 2021, I think I can safely say Soojin case is still one of the most talked about. Looking back having the benefit of hindsight, rather than having the mentality to support and believe the victim, we as human being, have the responsibility to critically assess the situation before believing either side. What happened to her was really unfortunate. She had her whole career in front of her, her group was doing so well and she seemed genuinely loved being on stage and performing with the girls. To think we live in a society that let a girl’s lifelong dream and hard-work crushed because of unproven claims and accusations…it is such a shame.

imagine getting fired from ur job as an adult because when you were 13 you slapped someone, cussed, or drew on someones jacket.... who even cares?

seo shinae ruined her carrer for her gain yet she gain no career or anything.

Man I never thought Soojin will leave Gidle! It's still very unbelievable.

I want Soojin back. And I want Kim Garam back. Both completely innocent.

Not much to say since you covered this so well, but let's add to the fact that alumni had stated that C and her sister were asking them if they had any photos of Soojin six months before the initial accusation. This explains two things: 1) Victim C and her sister lied because they said they were making the accusation at that time because the website ( I think it was Naver?) was removing a certain feature in their comments forums, so they felt they had to make the accusation right away before that feature was removed, and 2) This explains why Soojin said in her first statement that she knew exactly who the anonymous accuser was, since her friends had already warned her six months before then that C and her sister were looking for photos of Soojin (to make their accusation seem more realistic - this was something C and her sister were in the midst of concocting). There's no other reason someone would be going to solicit pictures of another alumni ten years later, there would be no excuse for that type of action, except to cause another person trouble. And there's no way Soojin would have known who the accuser was beside her alumni friends had already forewarned her. Also, the fact that Seo Shin ae was the poster child for school bullying. Seo Shin ae deleted her verbose statement from the internet all together. If you are a poster child for this type of cause - and it is true - there is no way you'd ever remove this statement that you made for any reason - unless it is a false or embellished statement. And it was. SSA said in that statement that Soojin would curse her in between every class in the halls and in the cafeteria every day, day in and day out, for two years. And yet, there are absolutely ZERO students who remember this to even back SSA up that they saw or heard Soojin doing this to SSA. Not even one. Zero people came out to say they saw Soojin doing this to SSA. And every single day in the middle of a crowded cafeteria full of students? Add to that fact that alumni proved that Soojin and SSA had classes on different floors (regarding SSA's mother's letter disappearing at graduation time, and also allegedly that Soojin had placed a pack of cigarettes in SSA's desk) - impossible according to alumni due to the fact that Soojin and SSA had classes on different floors. So if their classes were on different floors, how was Soojin harassing SSA on SSA's floor in between every single class like SSA wrote in her statement? This is just not possible. But why did SSA just decide to delete her statement from the internet? For no reason other than to just delete it? Why? It just fits absolutely no form of logic for SSA to just remove her statement from the internet for no reason. Thank you for your video. It is still important for many of us who love Soojin and (G)I-DLE that this never be forgotten - for Soojin to never be forgotten. We still love Soojin and it's obvious that her members still love her very deeply also. Your video is greatly appreciated!

Neverlands it is almost two years since Soojin left we need to trend #hwaa on all things related to Soojin or (G)IDLE. We must make sure Soojin knows that we support her no matter what.

I could never forget her I love her as a loyal fan since 2018 and it still breaks my heart so much how cube handle this controversy and how everyone comes at her so brutally without a hard proof or evidence. I hope someday she will make an appearance somewhere and update us but rn I just hope shes healthy and doing fine. Justice for Soojin

i hope she comes back :( so many ppl still support her including me and i think she can still have her redemption arc like jimin from aoa. i just miss her sm she was literally my bias and as much as i loved tomboy and nude, it just doesn’t feel the same without her :( the way she would’ve DEVOURED nudes concept too like brooo😭

Thank you for making this video because there was soo much chaos about this and literally no one in this platform was covering it.. I genuinely think that C, her sister, and seo were slightly malicious and they should’ve been criticized more…

I honestly love the research and depth you out in your videos!!!

You should do kim garam next the more recent bullying scandal

I think SK needs to make it law that if a person or news outlet is going to publish accusations explicitly naming someone as the perpetrator, a police report is required to be lodged by the victim and produced. If you're willing to say it you damn well better be able to prove it. Because I'm kind of tired of this whole ignoring me or having an argument with me or doing something I don't like but is not harming me...is bullying. None of that is school violence.

After two years, i still missed Soojin so so much. Why people want to destroy her dreams? Why S.Korean don't want to find a job and improve their life. Instead this people want to destroy Soojin life and dream. If they are dare, they should come out and show their face.

Soojin is such a Pisces, I would’ve handled the situation the same way she did by coming out with that letter and owning up to her truth. I think Soojin is going to come back on her terms. From the way she chose to go about her circumstance, I think she was ready to accept whatever her fate would turn out to be. Soojin to me, has a lot of integrity and strong personal moral values. I’m glad she chose to remain true to herself even if it was detrimental to her career that she rightfully deserved.

Like Hyuna, I think Seojin has that special charisma and talent that would be great soloist. I really hope she got away from Cube and able to start a fresh career

i miss soojin smm........ :/

this is the first time i've seen someone get it right. i always see kpop stans say "soojin was declared innocent" when she never was

I think that even if Cube BEGGED Soojin to come back in their company, she wouldn't accept. The only way we might see a reunion of Idle would be if Soojin joins another agency as a soloist, gets famous, and that's when Cube might accept her having some activities with Idle. That's basically how 2PM works now (although they were a JYP) group, some members have left the company/are under another one, but they can still have comebacks together, perform together, go on variety shows as "2PM", etc... Another way would be waiting until the contracts of the 5 other members expire, and until they join another agency (or until they themselves create their own)

I really miss her so much, it was already proven it was false, I hope our girl comes back soon, I will wait for her, I hope those accusers and Seo Shinae lose everything

I wish soojin could come back, jimin did so I still think there’s hope

my fave girl 😢

it is really a shame that we live in a world where people don't just wait until enough information gets released to form a reasonable conclusion or when the whole case gets resolved. I kept tabs on the case as it was happening with a neutral stance. I was a bit suspicious when the accuser decided to come out with it now rather than the very beginning of Soojin's trainee days. She waited until IDLE was really at the tips of the peak to drop it. I believe in second chances in most cases if the person themselves proves they are a better person now than back then. And I've seen enough fan interactions with Soojin as well as stories of her with the other members to be convinced that she really is not the person she was at 13. Heck, Soojin's behaviour throughout the entire ordeal just shows that she's moreso innocent than guilty, and I do give her credit for the honesty and professionalism. Even if she did made some poor decisions in her youth and did admit to making mistakes, to me, her time in GIDLE and how others spoke of her shows how much she has changed for the better since her school days. The public reaction really didn't help imo. I do hope that Soojin is doing fine now. I like how GIDLE whether intentional or not puts some sort of reference to her. Do I think she can return to stardom? I actually do but it's unlikely. However we have seen some cases where serious accsued idols do bounce back to much warm reception; T-ARA is a prime example. I believe one AOA member who was originally accused of bullying but turned out to be a victim is making her comeback (pray that reception is kind to her if true). No doubt Soojin is keeping contact with her former members but more underground so to speak

She truly deserved better it's insane, i am proud she came back!!! I will be here for her new chapter in life and will be supporting her ❤

i never believed in it, soojin is not a person who would do that. I don't even want to imagine how bad it hurt soojin cuz I'm a ot6 and i love all gidle members....it just broke my heart...i cried for months and months and tried being out of kpop until gidle had a comeback with tomboy. I hate seo shin-ae. Not a very noble thing to do. But the least she could do was clarify that soojin wasnt the part of her bullying case. Makes me even wonder if she even got bullied cuz if that pain was true, she would never let netizens bully soojin and the company to get her kicked out of the group. You don't let bad things happen to others if they happen to you if you are a good human. And even if she got bullied or whatever, i have no respect, compassion , empathy , pity on her. She accused soojin and made it worse. Even if she was bullied, she is no better than a bully nor is she even a human for letting people bite soojin like that. SEO SHIN AE IS A BULLY FOR THAT.

#justiceforsoojin

I keep wondering about one thing, why did the victims not report the bullying immediatly? Sojin was active for several years. Maybe i am reading too much into this but it almost seems like they were collecting info and trying to remember middle school just to finally put an idol down. I am not defending anyone just the time these victims take to report keeps me wondering.

Like what do these trolls expect people to do? Strap everyone up with dual bodycams and keep all the footage forever so you can prove if you did or didn't step on a crack in the sidewalk 8 years ago? All of these bullying accusations make me mad, as a victim of extensive social bullying I think it's dangerous to label every "incident" as school violence. There's a huge difference between actual violence (eg The Glory) and social bullying. My bullies decided in preschool that I wasn't allowed to befriend anyone in our grade. I spent 6 years at that first school absolutely miserable from having no friends and being made fun of for having acne, running slow, having a disabled brother etc. Those girls never did anything violent towards me, yes the bullying permanently shaped me as a person, but I'm not out here looking up where they all work now and trying to get them fired. You just have to hope they have become better people. Any incidents of actual violence should have been handled properly by the school and police and parents and if it wasn't, the blame should be on the authorities. Put them on blast if you felt your bullying wasn't dealt with properly! They failed their duty of care! But no these accusations that keep pouring out are clearly only looking to damage reputations and get attention and maybe money. If they sought justice they would have contacted lawyers, the old schools, police etc. Oh and wasn't there an exposed secret chat room several months ago that literally orchestrated online attacks on certain idols? I wouldn't be surprised if many of these accusations are coming from these troll farms with no validity at all

The only victim in this is Soojin. Cancel culture won.

I know culture is important but it's so weird to me that people come around talking about middle school. Even if it's true, which it almost never is, so what? We don't hold children responsible for their actions (are you the same person you were in middle school?) the idols don't get much of a chance to give their sides and it's never a "The Glory" situation, it's always something that doesn't even matter anyway. If you're still super cut up because someone cursed at you in middle school, you have bigger issues than an idol.

Already 2 YEARS?! WHAT?

I love gidle, but I dont really have a bias. I wasnt into kpop when Soojin was kicked out but I feel like if she was still in Gidle she would be my bias. We have a lot in common and she seems very lovable.

from the info we have at the 5 min mark, it's just teenage girls being bitches to eachother.

Soojin was one of the most unproblematic, truly talented idols. She deserves so much better. I still think about her all the time and wish her the best.

Спасибо за правдивый разбор ситуации с нашей малышкой Су.

happy birthday soojin 💔🌿

Never watched Gidle when Soojin was in the group, but just listening to all this you can't help but laugh out loud. Who on earth would ever bring up smoking, unless they literally had nothing on another person. I think cube kicking out Soojin sets a dangerous precendent, in which any anonymous person online can repeatedly make claims on anyone they deem to be a villian in a kpop group, something we see literally all the time, just to get them fired. Neither Cube nor Soojin should have ever responded to any of this. In america this would be laughed at.

If Soojin was a victim of bullying in school, how interesting would it be if those same people continued bullying her as an idol? I mean, there's no way to prove it, but I do wonder if that could be why there were so many false or unprovavlw allegations.

Soojin is that GIRL that's why they wanted to take her down! But also I think she left cube herself

SHES BACK AGAIN!!!❤❤❤

also dont discount how much articles of support were buried and the reporter is under investigation

you can't get thrombocytopenia from stress, idk why that wasn't looked into further tbh.

Please, does anyone know how I can translate this into Spanish? or find this in text form? TTTTTTTT

it’s so sad, she would have KILLED the nxde era still love gidle but it’s not the same without her :(

I think Seo Shin-Ae accusing Soojin of being a bully was a huge strike against Soojin's career in G-Idle. When a respected public figure wrongfully calls out another person they are doomed, the Korean public will most likely side with the accuser and then there's little hope for the accused of being cleared of the wrongful accusations made about and saved from their downfall. Look at T-ara's bullying scandal, Jimin and Mina from AOA, Kim Garam in Le Sserafim..Poor Soojin. She did not deserve to have what she worked hard for passionately for years for, snatched away from her over lies.

Shin Ae is a career assassin.

I hate how accusations can just end someone's career. Especially ones where you can't prove anything. The legal system isn't perfect, but if you have the balls to take someone to court, there should be some repercussions. Soojin is innocent. Their comeback was so successful others including that shameless actress and the stupid journalists milked it and Soojin took the fall. I guess I shouldn't be korean media can also be stupid and manipulative.

Sorry I am new to K-pop but let me see if I understand this correctly, all of this drama is from a claim that Soojin "bullied" her in middle school? So that mean's it would have happened almost 10 yrs ago (Soojin 24) and she discribed being "bullied" as making personal attacks at her and laughing behind her back. Why/how is this even taken seriously? are people so emotionally weak and soft now that words from ten yrs ago are to much to handle? Even worse is people allow it to happen, Guess what life isn't perfect and if you let other peoples words bother you that much all your doing is giving them power over you. So weird.

Its actually scary and unreal for me that shin ae looks like the girl that bullied me…

Your audio is so low. Cant you increase your volume?

And this is why we ALWAYS have to stay neutral.

She was the only reason I was into gidle now I don’t rrly stan em. After she left their music streams went up but the music didn’t

Yet most Koreans continue to see her as guilty.

justice for soojin

I hope she waits until after gidles contracts ends to come back to the public and we can have our big happy family back together ❤❤❤

The journalist isn’t fired , it was fake. He is still very active.

Soojin deserves better. CUBE can make up for throwing her under the bus by doing the right thing and let her rejoin her group. Karma will take care of Seo Shin-ae and the alphabet accusers. Hopefully Soojin will be around to see it. #alwayswithsoojin

We love Soojin!! Always will!

Bring back (S)O-ojin!!!

Everything was ripped from this girl I hate cube and people need to stop giving them money even if that means stop supporting g-idle.

I hope HELL is real and built specifically for Seo Shitaeter

It's time Cube let Soojin come back to (G)-Idle, they would make so much money, they wouldn't know what to do. Idle should time their next comeback with Soojin rejoining them.

Soojin herself stated that "If she was guilty, she would leave the group." Now she's gone. That told me everything I needed to know.

I personally do not care for Soojin as she never interested me as a member; she was boring to me/never caught my eye. However, I will say that she was talented as fuck!! Her voice was so damn seductive and her stage presence was *it*. I will say one thing though, the kpop industry is hilarious as fuck. I’m not surprised that Soojin got kicked out (whether the rumours are true or not, idk as I’m still watching the video), bc of how stupid the industry is. I mean, you can get into trouble for not even bowing, waving a different country flag, breaking the thing that hits the drums or not ever smiling. It’s beyond a joke tbh. I wonder what Soojin is upto now, these days…

this is so biased seriously, like how yall gna defend someone whose personality you'll never truly know all while discrediting potential victims. actions have consequences !!!!

Seo Bullin