The Truth About the SDA Church: Cult, Truth, or White Lie? | Asuni's Desk 

This is profound teaching!!! Please keep them coming! We need more light and truth about this topic

Thank you for this break down and understanding. Looking forward to part 2!!!

I was in the SDA cult and I'm thankful to be out, I'm sure you've heard it said that a picture is worth a thousand words... and the picture of this church has a woman standing in an empty garden with weeds all around her, she is dressed in black but her name is White... the picture is titled "Black Sabbath" as is the name of the band.

What a teaching!

Good job!! The scriptural reference for the scapegoat is Leviticus 16. When studying the scapegoat, it will be good to look at chapter 14 where two birds are used for the cleansing of the leper’s house.

I am glad you can see the difference between the common gospel that everyone follows "the wide gate " and the everlasting gospel "the narrow gate "that SDA'S teach

Crazy Quotes from Ellen G. White By Robert K. Sanders When I come across Ellen G. White's (EGW) crazy quotes doing research, I wonder how I ever believed this stuff-for 37 years. When I read them now I have a good laugh. I hope you see the humor in them also. 1) Excessive seeing is a sin: "Excessive indulgence in eating, drinking, sleeping, or SEEING, is sin." -Counsels on Diet and Foods, page 141, written in 1880. I guess EGW did not want her help "seeing" her excessive indulgence in eating meat, oysters, drinking wine, and stealing material for her books from uninspired authors. 2) Piano tuners deal with insanity: In many cases I have advised out-of-door work for piano tuners, telling them that unless they changed their business, they would have to deal with insanity. -Letter 104, 1901. I wonder how many piano tuners tried to tune pianos out-of-doors in the winter so they would not go insane? Really! Perhaps wearing gloves would help keep them from going insane! How many piano tuners have gone insane? 3) Having an upset stomach will make infidels: Deranged stomachs have made infidels. You can be a preacher of righteousness in this respect. The greatness of the work that may be accomplished in the lines of health reform has not been comprehended or appreciated. There is religion in the making of good bread. I hope you will consider these things, and realize that your work is of consequence. -Manuscript Releases, Volume Fourteen, page 342, paragraph 2. Would taking Pepto-Bismo after being gassed up eating SDA Veggie meat keep you from becoming infidels? And I always thought an infidel was a person that rejected Christ or was not a Christian-not caused by a deranged stomach. 4) Tea and coffee drinking loosens the tongue: When these tea and coffee users meet together for social entertainment, the effects of their pernicious habit are manifest. All partake freely of the favorite beverages, and as the stimulating influence is felt, their tongues are loosened, and they begin the wicked work of talking against others. -Counsels on Diet and Foods, p. 423. SDAs must drink a lot of coffee and tea in secret. I remember some church members back-stabbing their fellow church members when they get together in their clicks. If you find this going on in your church, suggest that they lay off the coffee and tea! 5) Showing face and head are immodest: I was shown that the people of God should not imitate the fashions of the world... I was pointed back to God's ancient people, and was led to compare their apparel with the mode of dress in these last days. What a difference! What a change! Then the women were not so bold as now. WHEN THEY WENT IN PUBLIC, THEY COVERED THEIR FACES WITH A VAIL. In these last days, fashions are shameful and immodest...The small bonnets, exposing the face and head, show a lack of modesty...The inhabitants are growing more and more corrupt... -Testimonies, Volume 1, pp. 188; 189. EGW would have supported the Muslim women wearing veils and burquas. EGW sure did not have her faced covered, so she was a bare faced hypocrite. See her pictures that she claimed were idols. 6) Angels need a gold card to get in and out of heaven: There is perfect order and harmony in the Holy City. All the angels that are commissioned to visit the earth hold a golden card, which they present to the angels at the gates of the city as they pass in and out. -Early Writings (1882), page 39. (Do angels really need a gold ID card to get in and out of heaven? Can evil angels deceive the loyal angels to get into heaven? Why did God withhold this important piece of information from Christians for over 2000 years?) 7) Women should not allow wet-nurses to suckle their babies or the babies will take on the temper and temperament of the nurse. A stranger performs the duties of the mother and gives from her breast the food to sustain life. Nor is this all. She also imparts her temper and her temperament to the nursing child. The child's life is linked to hers. If the hireling is a coarse type of woman, passionate, and unreasonable; if she is not careful in her morals, the nursling will be, in all probability, of the same, or a similar type. The same coarse quality of blood, coursing in the veins of the hireling nurse, is in that of the child. -The Health Reformer, September 1, 1871, paragraph 7. Ellen claims that if the wet nurse is a course woman with low morals the baby will have the same nature. Really? This means when the milk is digested by the baby and turned into blood, the brain will recognize that the milk came from a woman of low morals and pass that nature to the baby. Let us ask this question, if the milk the baby drinks comes from a cow, does the baby have the morals and nature of a cow? Please be concerned if the baby starts mooing. The low morals that babies have are not from the food they eat, but being born with a carnal nature. A former SDA lady wrote me that her mother is a real EGW fanatic and nothing that she says to her mother will move her from believing in EGW. This lady drank a glass of milk and then mooed in her mother's ear which her mother did not find funny. At another time she whispered in her mother's ear that she had a need to go outdoors and eat some alfalfa and hay. Even humor sometimes does not help a person to admit they have been deceived. 8) What is the most worthless job angels have on planet Earth? Watching over the dust of Wm. Miller says EGW in one of her "I saw" moments! God suffered him to come under the power of Satan, and death to have dominion over him. He hid him in the grave, away from those who were constantly drawing him from God. Moses erred just as he was about to enter the promised land. So also, I saw that Wm. Miller erred as he was soon to enter the heavenly Canaan, in suffering his influence to go against the truth. Others led him to this. Others must account for it. But angels watch the precious dust of this servant of God, and he will come forth at the sound of the last trump. -Spiritual Gifts, Volume 1 (1858), page 168. William Miller’s membership in the Masonic Order has been a matter of public record, in print, since 1853. Miller died in 1849. In 1858, nine years after Miller's death EGW had one of her visions from God where she pronounced him coming forth in the resurrection. This is important because EGW made it clear those that belonged to the Masons would lose their souls. Why did God tell Ellen that Miller would be saved and then give her another vision that those belonging to Masons would lose their souls? Any rational person can see EGW never received visions from God. In 1853, Sylvester Bliss noted in his Memoirs of William Miller, pp. 21, 22: “It was here [Poultney, Vermont] that Miller became a member of the Masonic fraternity, in which his perseverance, if nothing else, was manifested; for he advanced to the highest degree which the lodges in the country, or in any in that region, could confer.” There is no doubt that Mrs. White took every opportunity to degrade men who became Freemasons. Read the words she wrote regarding Brother Faulkhead: “The Lord also revealed to me Brother Faulkhead's connection with the FreeMasons, and I plainly stated that unless he severed every tie that bound him to these associations he would lose his soul. -Selected Messages, Volume 3 p. 85: 1980 Ed. Now which is it, will Wm. Miller will be resurrected with the saints or he will lose his soul because he was a Mason? Where does the Bible tells us that angels watch over the dead or the dust of the dead? 9) In heaven there will be no color line; for all will be as white as Christ himself. I received an e-mail that brought this to my attention as follows: Thus, Adventists not only have to observe the Jewish food, sabbath, and tithing laws, but they must actually look like Jews as well in order to enter heaven and have the same skin color as Jesus had. How do I tell my sweet little, five-year old, African-American granddaughter that the color of her skin is unacceptable for heaven? EGW: "The Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, Whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance." You are the children of God. He has adopted you, and He desires you to form characters here that will give you entrance into the heavenly family. Remembering this, you will be able to bear the trials which you meet here. In heaven there will be no color line; for all will be as white as Christ himself. Let us thank God that we can be members of the royal family. -The Gospel Herald, March 1, 1901, paragraph 20, Article Title: Trust in God. Is God really going to change the color of your skin if you are not white? I f you are not white what is your reaction to this? Do you really accept EGW as a lesser light leading you to the greater light and that she is another source of truth?

I haven't even been five minutes in the video I'm hearing us vs them. "Us" are who, in respect to them? What is Orthodox Christianity in this mix? Where in the Bible is the word Trinity? If it is not there, who gave you this word to speak? Six minutes into it, I hear pre-Tribulation doctrine, yet no scriptures yet. I also heard that Jehovah's witnesses are exactly like Seventh-Day Adventists. Do they rest on Saturday too? Let me hear the rest of this interesting argument with no scriptures yet!

Good information, but the man's name was Hiram Edson, not Edwards. Please contact me if you would like to discuss SDA history. I am well acquainted with all the nuances of the culture and errors thereof. 30 years of study Blessings

You said both goats represent Jesus in lev 16. So what was the reason for casting lots? The Bible doesn’t say both goats are for the lord. “And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.” (Lev 16:8, KJV) It says one for the Lord, not both 😮

Reading the books of the New Testament, we probably asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years? The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist. Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on RU-vid. The video reveals the prophecy of the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the End of the World. Watching this video will give hope to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).

So what you’re saying is orthodox Christian’s would say “we believe in the Trinity” and an SDA would say “we also believe in the same Trinity” then now the SDA is somehow lying ?

My brother, your lengthy presentation refers. Allow me to comment as follows in the name of Jesus. (a) Most of it is based on willing ignorance and blatant prejudice on your part. (b) The 1843/1844 disappointment was not a product of failed prophecy but a Bible calculation by one Fitch, not Miller. Ellen only became a prophet in December of 1844. (b) Against your expectations, the Lord promised to bless His church with prophets. Mt.23:34; Eph.4:11. Amongst other things the role of a prophet includes establishing true doctrine. Eph.4:13-14. Ellen's couldn't have been an exception. How could you ignore God's counsels which come through His own APPOINTED messenger? (d) Your task should be to faithfully test whether she was a true or false prophet. 1Jn.4:1; 1Thes.5:19-22. Unfortunately you aren't doing that but have chosen the popular option, to stone the prophet and scorn the Bible Sabbath keepers simply because you are a human sabbatarian.... a case of negative Bible prophecy being fulfilled sadly. (e) The other big problem is that you disbelieve the holy Bible. E.g. It defines sin as the TRANSGRESSION of the LAW, ALL the TEN commandments. 1Jn 3:4; 1Sam.15:24; James 2:9-10. This is why you don't discern that violating the 4th commandment is Okey! In the absence of the law there can't be any SIN. Rom.4:15; 5:13. This explains why you don't acknowledge the heavenly judgment ongoing since you believe that Christ fulfilled the law, including the Sabbath, on our behalf so that we're left with no cross to carry. This explains why you consider OBEDIENCE to be salvation by works /legalism. Yours is not about TRUST AND OBEY but trust and DISOBEY, which is dead faith, faith without good works of obedience by grace. NB. In the New Covenant the law is written in our hearts so that we can keep them not discard them. Jer.31:31-33; Ez.36:26-27; accordingly, through sanctification the Holy Spirit EMPOWERS us to obey the law. 1pt.1:22; Acts 5:32. Christians can only be SAINTS if they keep all the TEN commandments of God .Rev 14:12; James 2:10. Only those who obey all the commandments of God (,by grace through faith) shall be saved. He.5:9; Rev.22:14; Mt.19:17. NB. My brother, how will you navigate through in DISOBEDIENCE?? Let's dea with the basics and avoid being too wordy in needless prejudice. May God bless you my brother as you seek to know the seven ways of testing a prophet so that you do not despise and stone the Lord through His messenger s.

About heavenly trio Matthew 28:19 (NET) Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of THE FATHER and THE SON and THE HOLY SPIRIT, John 17:3 (KJV) And this is life eternal, that they might know : THEE THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and JESUS CHRIST, WHOM THOU HAST SENT. 1 Corinthians 8:6-7 (KJV) 6 But to us there is but ONE GOD, THE FATHER, of whom are all things, and we in him; and ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST, BY WHOM ARE ALL THINGS, and we by him. 7 HOWBEIT THERE IS NOT IN EVERY MAN THAT KNOWLEDGE..... John 3:16 (KJV) FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD, that HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD, Galatians 4:4, 6 (KJV) a.) 4 But when THE FULNESS OF THE TIME was come, GOD SENT FORTH HIS SON, MADE OF A WOMAN, made under the law, b.) 6 And because ye are sons, GOD HATH SENT FORTH THE SPIRIT OF HIS SON into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD, that HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON Galatians 4:4-5 (KJV) a.) 4 But when the fulness of the time was come, GOD SENT FORTH HIS SON, MADE OF A WOMAN, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might RECEIVE THE ADOPTION OF SONS. John 1:14 (KJV) And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, Romans 8:3 (KJV) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, GOD SENDING HIS OWN SON IN THE LIKENESS OF SINFUL FLESH, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Hebrews 10:5 (KJV) ....but A BODY HAST THOU PREPARED ME: b.) Galatians 4:6 (KJV) And because ye are sons, GOD HATH SENT FORTH THE SPIRIT OF HIS SON into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. John 14:16 (KJV) Andi I WILL PRAY THE FATHER, AND HE SHALL GIVE YOU ANOTHER COMFORTER that he may abide with you for ever; 1 Corinthians 15:45 (KJV) And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; THE LAST ADAM WAS MADE A QUICKENING SPIRIT. John 20:22 (KJV) And when he had said this, HE BREATHED ON THEM, and saith unto them, RECEIVE YE THE HOLY GHOST:

Asuni, respectfully, you are incorrect. You will answer to God for what you teach. I can help you to learn how to teach what is 100% accurate concerning the sda church, but you are not there yet. Yes the sda church is in apostasy; yes, they are run by the papacy and jesuits, but Ellen White was the messenger of the LORD. Do you even know what post-humous books are - the dozens and dozens and dozens of books that have Ellens name on them that papists wrote? I do not think so.

To William Miller! With Him more than 100 was waiting for Christ to return in 1844 out of all Demonination at that time!.They slowly found the truth in the Bibel! After the disappointment, searching onwards and found ,is not the return of Christ but, there found in Revelation 10:11 and there found the disappointment, Revelation 10:9

Leviticus 16:8, 10 (KJV) 8 And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; ONE LOT FOR THE LORD, and THE OTHER LOT FOR THE SCAPEGOAT. 10 But the goat, on which THE LOT FELL TO BE THE SCAPEGOAT, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to LET HIM GO FOR A SCAPEGOAT into the wilderness.

No SDA do not have their own Bible I have been in the SDA church for over 30 years and I only heard of the Clear Word Bible in passing. It is a paraphrase Bible by a member of the church but it is not a Bible that is promoted over the KJV. Other denomination and Christian Store have many Bible but we don't ever say that is that denominations Bible. Why is that?

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Which Sunday cult are you?

We don't bury anything we teach this all the time we do teach this you lie

Maybe do your homework before you think to instruct others?

I'm sorry but this video that teaches this about the SDA Church is misinformation. I have been a SDA for over 30 years and the things you say SDAs believe is simply your opinion and interpretation. The church you describe as SDA I can't identify. The SDA Doctrine is not work-based. It is love and obedience-based Doctrine. Jeus says if love me keep my Commandments. Talking about the 10 Commandments. If you are a follower of Christ and you love Jesus you wouldn't have a problem with the Seventh-Day Sabbath which is one of the Ten Commandments.

There is but only one God, 1.Corintians 8:6. Jesus never ever claimed to be God!! To the Adventist! The lord says:"the sign between me and you is Ezekiel 20 12 20 and Exodus 31 13!!

Clearly you are a false teacher the scapegoat is of azazel, which in Hebrew is the originator of sin, symbolizing Satan's postponed but eventual judgment. Why would you so boldly lie about so well known scripture??

I hope you fix your mistake on the day of atonement goats, as you accused others of blasphemy, when CLEARLY you are the one bearing false witness.

You can lie, misrepresent, name call, and slander, but that will never change the reality: Jesus Christ is the eternal God part of the Trinity, Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savoir, I am saved and justified by faith in Christ atoning blood, I am sanctified by the Spirit, the Bible and the Bible only is my rule of faith by which every doctrine and individual is tested including Ellen White, God's moral law has never changed, the seventh day Sabbath is validated by the full authority of the scriptures, there is a Judgement before the second coming in which God will judge every work "with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil", humans are not immortal and the righteous will receive immortality at the second coming, the righteous dead are sleeping in their graves awaiting the resurrection at Christ second coming, and daily I must "grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ". This is what makes me a Seventh Day Adventist.

This is very ridiculous. All you need to do is put all christian denominations in round table to argue their faith, and you will see how the entire faith crumbles.

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