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The Ultimate Cup Z is INSANE! | Kirby and the Forgotten Land Co-op Playthrough 

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This is it, the biggest challenge we have ever faced in a Kirby game. We head into the Ultimate Cup and Ultimate Cup Z with Morpho Knight Sword +✭ and no extra powerups! It's going to take all of our skill to make it through to the end!
#KirbyandtheForgottenLand #30thAnniversary #UltimateCupZ

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@gonzoclan9603
@gonzoclan9603 2 года назад
The cool thing about chaos elfilis is that the speedrun static against him is to use crystal spike out of all abilities, the crystal spike has the ability to pick up an infinite amount of stars dropped by attacks with no damage cap. After elfilis does his fireball crash move, pick up all the stars left behind, hurl it at him and you almost one-shot him
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That is awesome! There sure are a lot of stars after that attack, I figured there was a good use for them.
@nouche
@nouche Год назад
Oh cool! And I’ve also seen people just bully him with that same ability as it’s hovering.
@itsturniptime3699
@itsturniptime3699 2 года назад
This is the first game where the True Arena is properly canon, or so it may seem. According to chatter amongst fans, Chaos Elfilis is meant to be a representation of Satan or The Devil seeing as how it went from being an angelic creature with horns somewhat resembling a halo to a red horned demon thing. Chaos Elfilis, as it seems, is this world’s equivalent to Dark Matter or Void. Fecto Elfilis began melting into liquid when you removed Elfilin which is similar to Void’s true form being all squishy and slimy. Chaos Elfilin also borrows attacks from Magolor with the portals and gigantic weapon sweeps, Void Termina (when using Zan Partizanne’s spear power), Drawcia’s bounce attack, and has a very similar damage effect as Nightmare when you hit him. We also of course see them use Cutters from either Marx or Miracle Matter, control a horde of tiny orbs that shoot lasers like Zero and the little Dark Matters, and it eventually ignites and lights itself into a fireball just like Dark Mind from Amazing Mirror. All of these characters are or have ties to Dark Matter besides Marx and Nightmare and then maybe Drawcia depending on who you ask. The fact Elfilin also broke off from Elfilis is fairly similar to what Gooey did or possibly even Kirby at one point. We also have to keep in mind that Fecto Efilis was stated to be a world conquered or destroyed, which is super similar to Void or Zero Two. This thing even absorbed Morpho Knight who supposedly is Kirby’s version of the grim reaper or embodiment of death and rebirth, which is terrifying. The fact that it decided to join up with Elfilin in the end implies Elfilin has all of the abilities of Chaos Elfilis which has strange implications for the future. I’m sure people will continue to theorize over this for months, maybe years.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
There is definitely a lot of unique references I found in this battle as well. All of them which you listed of course. Thank you so much for that. I found it crazy that Elfilis ended up absorbing Morpho Knight's power. It makes you wonder just how strong this thing really is and now that Elfilin has it's power, what that could mean. I don't know if they will ever bring Elfilin back for a future game, but if they do, I hope they explore more about this and what it could mean for the future. Maybe it means nothing and that Elfilin is just like Kirby, pure of heart, and we will never see Fecto Elfilis return. If you really think about it, this world has quite a few similarities with Popstar and the origins of Kirby. It's really cool. I just love the lore of these games.
@boltshinx40
@boltshinx40 2 года назад
This is one thing that I don’t really see a lot of people talking about, Fecto Elfilis could be where The Ancients got there warp technology, which, if you look at the Lor Starcutter, opens star portals, also it is said that the original people of the land left this land.
@Ars-Nova258
@Ars-Nova258 2 года назад
@@boltshinx40 I was thinking the same thing about Fecto Elfilis being the source of warp tech. Makes me wonder how the Ancients captured him. Heroes of Yore maybe?
@personguy2262
@personguy2262 2 года назад
Although the other True Arenas were still “what-if scenarios,” they still made great implications of the lore, ESPECIALLY Haltmann and Void. I’m glad they made this fight a canon one
@metaskully382
@metaskully382 Год назад
Actually, Morpho knight was not absorbed but rather just disappeared. The remnants of the energy Morpho used to absorb Soul Forgo caused Chaos Elfilis to manifest.
@BiyikFrostDiaz
@BiyikFrostDiaz 2 года назад
To think a butterfly, a sphere, and 4 simple words could instill such dread and fear to kirby fans But this game and playthrough were great Glad to see you two completing kirby
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
I am glad you enjoyed the playthrough. This was a fantastic game.
@matthewvo7164
@matthewvo7164 2 года назад
4 words?
@Ph4ntomSp1rit
@Ph4ntomSp1rit 2 года назад
@@matthewvo7164 and here we are
@Teal-Menace
@Teal-Menace 2 года назад
@@Ph4ntomSp1rit (PTSD is now triggered to max) "H-how DARE you say those words?!"
@maisvousfumez-monsieur6882
@maisvousfumez-monsieur6882 Год назад
In french the curse is broken because it is 5words and not 4" and here we are" becomes "et nous y voilà arrivé" but its still dreadfull to hear that in fight(the french voice is not as scary as the english one i think)
@323starlight
@323starlight 2 года назад
Also crazy detail I discovered, If you zoom in on the Chaos Elfilis Figure, his eyes follow you.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Oh yeah, it is super creepy. It's the only figure in the game that does it, I believe.
@CaptainCFalcon
@CaptainCFalcon Год назад
Hm, *_interesting_*
@milesstorzillo7650
@milesstorzillo7650 2 года назад
Fun fact, Chaos Elfilis Phase 2 is one of the few, if not only, bosses in the game easier with no abilities. That's because you can inhale the orbs floating around him, which actually makes his circling laser attack easier to avoid. I actually did a run a couple days ago where I let go of my ability when I reached Chaos Elfilis and I was able to beat both phases abilityless on my 1st try.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That is going to help me in the long run. Thank you! I am trying to work on a no copy ability, no power ups, no continue run. It's been pretty tough so far.
@kiraina25
@kiraina25 7 месяцев назад
You can also destroy the orbs with abilities, I trimmed a lot by just spamming Morpho Sword's jumping slash.
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 2 года назад
The reason why toy hammer is so powerful compared to morpho knight sword/ masked dedede hammer, is because unlike those two having multi-hit charge attacks, toy hammer does all it's damage in one hit. In addition to that it charges faster, so it can get off those charge attacks much faster. Though the common strat for higher end bosses is to abuse perfect dodge-charge to spam lv 2 charge hits which just utterly shreds boss health. (it's fast enough to completely skip the meteor attack in Chaos Elfilis 2nd phase, by completely wrecking the boss health during the targetted laser spam, though granted with buffs)
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Holy crap, no wonder people were saying it was powerful. I need to try this out sometime. It would be a great way to get coins and Rare Stones.
@Kurumithespiritnightmare
@Kurumithespiritnightmare 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw yea i actually fought caos elflis with the toy hammer you can find the video right here but even with the toy hammer it’s still the hardest kirby boss of all time ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bLM9DmbN8jY.html
@oliviahughes3158
@oliviahughes3158 2 года назад
What's stronger? The blade of the Grim Reaper, a warrior of almost unmatched skill capable of passing judgment on the departed Or *plastic bonk
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 2 года назад
@@oliviahughes3158 To be fair, it's a plastic squeaky hammer fortified with mysterious materials found inside mysterious alternate dimensions. (Yes the blade of the grim ripper took more materials to craft, but it takes even MORE materials to fully fortify the toy hammer compared to the morpho knight sword)
@mikubraver7424
@mikubraver7424 2 года назад
Toy hammer is better with buffs than mask Dedede hammer, however mask Dedede hammer is better than toy hammer without buff. So it depends if your using buffs or not. Mask Dedede hammer can hit twice at full charge (most damage is at the start of the attack and end of the attack.) Plus you can contine to charge hammer after a perfect dodge to get to full charge faster. if you know what you are doing with Mask Dedede hammer you can mostly 2 shot the bosses. XD
@323starlight
@323starlight 2 года назад
I definitely love this version of the True Arena because it actually feels like it's part of the main story instead of a separate mode.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Yeah, me too! I hope they continue to make them part of the story in the series going forward.
@TimeturnerJ
@TimeturnerJ 2 года назад
Phantom Meta Knight being so difficult makes me so happy. :D It's what he deserves. King. 😌✊ I like to think that this is the full, brutal power Meta Knight used against the Beast Pack. He definitely held back against Kirby - that was just a sparring match. _This_ is him actually fighting with lethal intent.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
I am glad that fight was tough as well! I was surprised by just how fast he was and that rock drop scared the hell out me! It took out soooo much health. lol
@somethin7020
@somethin7020 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw That fight is tricky but a lot of fun when using the level 1 sword which also makes the fight last a decent amount and you can't just brute force it like with some fully upgraded powers.
@cjrecio5702
@cjrecio5702 2 года назад
Since Elfilin is whole again, other people wonder if he will become Elfilis 2.0 but good. I think it would be cool.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
I think he will remain to be pure of heart and help the Beast Pack rebuild a great new home for themselves. I don't know if we will ever see that in a future game or not.
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw I really hope so
@cjrecio5702
@cjrecio5702 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw Some dialogue when you talk to Elfilin in Kirby's house: "I hope we can go on another adventure someday!" "My power to create vortices aren't very strong, but I can open one to Planet Popstar anytime." "So no matter what the future holds... I hope we'll always stay friends, Kirby!" Nice to know that he's gonna appear in future games.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@cjrecio5702 Oh, man. I missed that dialogue. That makes me excited to see him come back in a future game. Hopefully it doesn't spell disaster for Kirby.
@shinyeeveelution789
@shinyeeveelution789 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw The reason you missed this is because it's apart of a rare dialog that you only get after beating (idk if it's main game, post game, or Ultimate Cup Z) and talking to Elfilin in Kirbys house over and over again. The dialog explains what happened before Kirby got to Waddle Dee Town.
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 2 года назад
The microphone is actually a reference to Walky enemy, which in previous games gives you the mic ability.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Sorry, but wasn't that what I said? I think I said it looks like the enemy that gives you the Mike ability.
@cjrecio5702
@cjrecio5702 2 года назад
Attacks used by other bosses in Chaos Elfilis' second form: 43:33 Marx's Black Hole 44:11 Marx's Cutter, also used by other bosses 45:10 Drawcia's Deadly Sun, also used by other bosses 52:34 Marx's Splash Rush, also used by Sectonia Soul 52:47 Drawcia's Deadly Bound, also used by other bosses
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thanks! That's super helpful.
@Adrot
@Adrot 2 года назад
The black hole is also used by other bosses, like Star Dream.
@SaeadaYudha
@SaeadaYudha 2 года назад
52:34 I think it was from drawcia soul
@gravitysoul28
@gravitysoul28 2 года назад
you reckon this implies that chaos elfilis has a little bit of all of the past bosses’ souls in it? the fact that chaos elfilis’ figurine also says “a unique convergence of elements, from native-beast souls to ethereal butterfly … this new creation, driven by pure chaos”
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@gravitysoul28 Yeah, it seems to be the case. I'm not sure if it's because it absorbed Morpho Knights power, but it was really impressive how many attacks this boss has.
@susiehaltmann3342
@susiehaltmann3342 Год назад
I also noticed how Chaos Elfilis’ “Soul” pulls a Void Termina and copies moves from other bosses. Star Dream Soul OS core fight cutter attack, Drawcia Soul bouncing, Magolor black hole. And the Master Crown boss in Magolor Epilogue copies the laser move that goes all around.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw Год назад
It's pretty cool that some final bosses in this franchise utilize moves from other bosses.
@riospark8849
@riospark8849 2 года назад
Chaos Elfilis is just too cool. Those traits inherited from Morpho and Zero Two's colors make it an awesome design, and it's even cooler if we add his second form and the moves of previous bosses like: - Creating star portals and shoot beams at them or even going itself inside them to hit Kirby from different angles like Magolor - Drawcia's, Sectonia's and Void's bounce attack, and the fireball too. - Marx's and Sectonia's cutter attack - That move in which it turns its "body" into some sort of liquid and launches towards Kirby like Marx, Sectonia and Drawcia - And even the ability to proyect giant copies of something (like itself) like Void Termina did with the Master Crown - Oh yeah, and the ability to make appear blades and launch them towards Kirby like Galacta Knight and the Marx's black hole
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
There is a lot of amazing references in this boss fight. I think it may also be to celebrate that this game is the celebration of Kirby's 30th Anniversary. I wish I could have noticed certain things while fighting him instead of trying to survive lol
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
I am looking forward to facing Magolor in Return to Dreamland!
@riospark8849
@riospark8849 2 года назад
@Sammus the Ignoramus That's what I said/meant
@riospark8849
@riospark8849 2 года назад
Oh sh**, then I think I spoiled something xd
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@riospark8849 no worries, I already knew Magolor was the final boss since I have played it before.
@winterdragon2004
@winterdragon2004 2 года назад
You actually can damage Chaos Orbfilis while in fireball mode, including when he's flying over your head. Its chip damage and involves getting close to a blazing sun, but you can do it!
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Awesome! That's good to know. Thank you!
@kadinchawah2873
@kadinchawah2873 2 года назад
Shoutouts to Michael for that important piece of advice on how to dodge Chaos Elfilis' Deadly Sun attack. Also, shoutouts to both of you for completing the nearly-impossible Ultimate Cup Z! (Although, I wouldn't say nearly-impossible because there are so many Copy Abilities that can destroy bosses in no time flat. Regardless, great effort and congratulations!)
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thanks! I am sure if we were to go back to this boss, it would be so much easier because of all the attempts we had.
@godsgirl935
@godsgirl935 2 года назад
I didn't think forgo could take morpho knight's power. This REALLY tells you just how powerful morpho knight is for forgo to gain a new body without even needing he's other half. Hmm so where could it go from here 🤔
@godsgirl935
@godsgirl935 2 года назад
Also REAL good job on beating this 100% is not to far from your grasp 👏🏼
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thanks! We are almost there, just one more video which hopefully should be up soon. As for Forgo taking Morpho's Knight power, I wonder if we will ever see him (her?) again now that they are technically part of Elfilin.
@godsgirl935
@godsgirl935 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw well one thing is for sure as usual we wanted answers and all we got was questions let's hope we get some answers next time.😁
@anomalysaberinterdimension205
@anomalysaberinterdimension205 2 года назад
Congratulations on beating The Ultimate Cup Z! It seems like Elfilin has become the ultimate life-form once again now that it has reunited with Forgo. Maybe he and Forgo can now fuse together to transform into Fecto Elfilis? Who knows, but nonetheless it's still a really great ending and closure for Forgo and Elfilis.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
It really was a great ending to such a tough but satisfying boss.
@alicearrival6744
@alicearrival6744 2 года назад
The Ultimate Cup Z is awesome. I was able to beat it on my first attempt but only because I went in with 2 health bars, a backup 2 health bars and on the last phase of Chaos Elfilis I had to use my amiibo to get a third double health bar. And even then I only barely came out on top and was one hit away from dying. Such an awesome boss and the music during the first bit with the orb creeps me out in the best way.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Congrats on beating it! It is definitely one of the most difficult Arenas I have ever had to go through.
@MikeTheMcer
@MikeTheMcer Месяц назад
I just 100% completed this game, mostly playing with a friend of mine too, and I used this series to see what the game is about with co-op. I really like it, Forgotten land might not really be designed with co-op in mind much but I still think it's good fun, isn't it? Having seen these bosses I knew the attacks and won the ultimate cup z on our first try! We also got in with 200 seconds of speed up and attack up, the second health bar and a maximum tomato in the x slot...
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw Месяц назад
It is a great game in co-op. It does make it easier, but we don't care. We had a ton of fun.
@Damariobros
@Damariobros 9 месяцев назад
You can actually hit him while he's in his fireball phase. I discovered a video a couple months ago of someone hitting him with hammer. I incorporated it into my speed strats whenever I re-fight Chaos Elfilis by, on his first fireball attack, hitting him with a fully charged giant sword attack as he flies overhead. It actually reaches him from the ground, surprisingly! And then I hit him with another one, fully charged holding the button and waiting for him, waddling over to him and releasing B the instant he lands back in the battlefield right as he ends his Drawcia Soul attack. I also get a couple of cheeky midair hits off him as he passes below, when I climb the pillars. Oh and as the lasers come from the balls, the reason there are varying amounts of lasers each time he fills the battlefield with uppercuts is because you had different amounts of the orbs destroyed when he starts the attack, and then when they regrow they don't start emitting new lasers. You can actually end the laser attack prematurely through this. You can also end the cross-lasers attack, the one with the two lasers that take half your health, by destroying enough orbs, or even break all of them before an attempt and Chaos Elfilis just skips over it and doesn't do it.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for all the tips! We had a lot of people mention particular things about this battle, and it is really amazing the tricks you can pull off with enough skill. I should try and tackle this fight again to see how well I do.
@Damariobros
@Damariobros 9 месяцев назад
@@grekeandshaw I managed to get Morpho Knight down to 30 seconds one time, and uploaded it and one of my best Chaos Elfilis fights to my channel, if you wanna check out some tricks 👌 That charged attack is the most broken thing in the entire game!
@gonzoclan9603
@gonzoclan9603 2 года назад
Noone really apprciates the pipes of the female vocalist in forgo phase two at 52:30 she hits a high note that i couldnt hit if i swallowed a parade floats worth of helium
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Oh damn, I never even noticed that! We tend to play with the volume a bit lower so it doesn't pick up on the microphones. That is very impressive. I wonder who the singer was?
@le_chef-Klown
@le_chef-Klown 2 года назад
Did you know, if you hold b while guarding, you can summon two space fetus that home in on the nearest foe
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Oh yeah, I did know that. I just forgot to use it in all the insanity. Lol
@kirbyydd_
@kirbyydd_ 2 года назад
I was so hyped when I got the notification for this video! I'll watch it as soon as I get back home from school. Looking forward to the next playthrough, glad you guys enjoyed this masterpiece!
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thanks for taking the journey with us!
@kirbyydd_
@kirbyydd_ 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw Congrats on 2k subscribers! Makes my day to have entertaining content to watch :) Hope you guys enjoyed return to dreamland aswell!
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@kirbyydd_ Thanks! I can believe how fast we moved from 1000 to 2000. It's insane how fast we have grown over the last month.
@matthewgarcia8979
@matthewgarcia8979 2 года назад
Chaos Elfilis (1st Phase) laser beam with dimensional rifts is actually based on Magolor's Laser beam attack from "Return to Dreamland" Chaos Elfilis (TRUE Final Form) if you pay attention to the background colors changing, It means it's about to use a different attack on you each time it changes, similar to "Astral Birth Void." The color backgrounds go in a pattern moveset for the true final boss. (Black, Orange, Red, Violet, and White.) P.S the pattern repeats itself until you die or kill it. 1.) Dark background = Black Hole 2.) Orange = Flaming Meteor 3.) Red = Fast Blood Shower 4.) Violet = Bouncing Smash with big red shock waves with lightning bolts surrounding the area. 5.) White = Disco lasers, Teleporting with cutters, and two lasers aim on you or your Partner.😅 A little Kirby Trivia MOST of the SOUL Bosses of Kirby like use the move cutter except Magolor. Black Hole was used for Marx, Marx Soul, Magolor, Magolor Ex, Magolor Soul, Star Dream, and Star Dream Soul OS.🖤🌀🌪️ Flaming Meteor was created by Dark Mind's True Form before Drawcia Soul, Soul of Sectonia, and Astral Birth Void use this attack in future battles. 🧡🔥☀️ Blood shower was actually created by Drawcia Soul, then Marx Soul, Soul of Sectonia, and Chaos Elfilis use this move in different ways.❤️🌧️☄️ The Giant Bouncing Sphere Smash was also Drawcia Soul's move before Soul of Sectonia, Void Termina, Void Soul, Astral Birth Void, and Chaos Elfilis use this move too.💜🏃🏾‍♀️🌑
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thank you! A lot of people have been telling me just how many different attacks Chaos Elfilis uses from previous bosses. It's insane! I loved this fight even if I said it was bullshit at times lol
@matthewgarcia8979
@matthewgarcia8979 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw understandable, it's also half the fun 😁
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@matthewgarcia8979 I mean, it wouldn't be a True Arena if it wasn't tough as hell. I still haven't attempted the one in Planet Robobot yet.
@matthewgarcia8979
@matthewgarcia8979 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw why not that's an easy one especially since all the 2.0 bosses go in order. 🤔 From weakest to strongest. In MY opinion out of all the hard bosses I've seen in the Kirby series (Revenge, Extreme, Deluxe, 2.0, Super, Parallel, and Phantom bosses.) Parallel, Super, and Phantom are the hardest difficulties to fight, but also the coolest I've seen in my life. 🥰🤩😁
@Ars-Nova258
@Ars-Nova258 2 года назад
Great work, hilarious commentary (the Mushroom joke at the end killed me), and proud to see another co-op duo go the distance! My sister and I beat this together as well but we somehow managed on our first try… not bragging as we had a Life Up, backup life up, and 16 minutes of boosted attack active. We weren’t messing around, yet even then it got really close near the end lol This is my favorite Kirby game is the series with one of my favorite final bosses ever! I haven’t had this much fun facing a final boss outside of a Tales of game! Hope you both enjoyed the game as much as I did catch you again next time.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That's incredible that you finished it with your sister. Great job! It definitely isn't easy, but then again, I kind of handicapped us by not using an powerups lol We really enjoyed the game. It's one of my favorite in the franchise now and I am so excited for where they take Kirby after this.
@kooliokenneth7671
@kooliokenneth7671 2 года назад
I really like your content, thanks for your awesome Kirby playthrough. Also, congrats on 2000 subscribers! You deserve all those and more.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thank you so much for the kind words! I hope to see you in future Kirby content!
@itsneo1489
@itsneo1489 2 года назад
Took me and my friend around 8 tries to beat Chaos Elfilis, we didn't upgrade the Morpho Knight ability for the fight either, safe to say we were very happy when we beat it
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Congrats. It is definitely a tough fight. Probably one of the hardest in Kirby.
@ladyerin9710
@ladyerin9710 2 года назад
Congrats on beating the Ultimate Cup Z guys!! And also congrats on also reaching 2K subscribers for your channel!! I actually really love Chaos Elfilis because of how it looks (as it looks really cool) and how difficult and unpredictable it can be with its attacks. It’s actually tied with Forgo Dedede as my third favorite boss in the game. I just love the unpredictability of that boss and I can definitely see that you had a very tough time with it. Just imagine how much tougher it would be if you didn’t power up the Morpho Knight Sword ability lol!! 😂 It probably would’ve taken like two hours lol!! 😂 But, I’m glad that Elfilin is now one again and I think Elfilin could be the most powerful traveling companion that Kirby ever had. And since you beat the Ultimate Cup Z, you can now get the figurine from the Usher Waddle Dee at the theater as the last two cutscenes are from the Chaos Elfilis and Chaos Elfilis’ soul battle. Also, keep on swearing a lot as it makes some great content in my opinion lol!! 😂 And I just realized that the next video should have that shoutout to me if I’m correct since the next video is the last one lol!! 😂 So, since you have battled every boss now in the game, of all of the bosses if you combine all of them in the main game, Meta Knight, the illusory bosses, Morpho Knight and Chaos Elfilis, who is OFFICIALLY your favorite and least favorite boss in the game if your original opinions changed (or have your original opinions from before not changed at all) and why?! And which three figurines will you hang in your house at the very end?! I gotta know that!! Have a great day guys and I can’t wait for the final episode of this series (in which when will that video arrive?!). I’m sad that this series is almost over as I really loved this series so much. But I can’t wait for you guys to do a play through of Return to Dream Land and Triple Deluxe and also hopefully for you guys to officially finish Planet Robobot and do more content in it (maybe practice replaying the game first before going back to it so you can understand the controls again or you could watch your own videos as a guide to help you remember the controls). ❤️😊
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thanks for joining us for the playthrough! Your comments have been so wonderful and fun to respond to. I think Chaos Elfilis may be my new favorite boss. As much as I said bullshit to it's Soul attacks, after fighting it 3 times (yikes) in this video, it was difficult but very fair. All of it's attacks are in the same order every time you fight it so it makes it much easier to see what's coming ahead. It just sucks that's attacks deal.so much damage lol. Also, yes, the next one will be the last with the both of us for this series. We are going to collect all the figures and talk about this wonderful journey we had with everyone. That shout out will be coming for you as well as a bunch of other people I talked with in the comments. I am not sure when it will be as we need to get together to record, but hopefully it will be very soon.
@NocturnalMelody
@NocturnalMelody 2 года назад
Subscribed, I loved watching you guys’ playthrough! The Ultimate Cup Z is super tough but you did great! (Also, the ending of the Butterfly Effect where he gives up on the girl he loves instead of killing himself is much better IMO)
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thank you so much for taking the time to check out our channel and subscribing! It really means a lot to us! I agree with you on that ending to the Butterfly Effect. The other one where he strangles himself in the womb is too depressing, but also doesn't make sense, because how could he could back to strangle himself if he already died in the past? Time travel doesn't work that way.
@gravitysoul28
@gravitysoul28 2 года назад
if i’m not mistaken, the morpho knight sword also has the most moves! 1. rapidly pressing B: basic sword attack 2. press and hold B: spinning sword attack (first two phases), or giant morpho sword attack (third and final phase) 3. press and hold shoulder button and B: unleash ID-F86… spirits? (i don’t know what else to call them lmao) 4. press shoulder button, then A, then A again then B: rapid sword attack in mid air then ground smash 5. while in midair, press and hold shoulder button and B: soundwave attack in other words, the morpho sword is absolutely broken
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Oh yes, it is a very strong ability. I am glad I chose it for the first time through this. I don't think I would have survived lol
@gravitysoul28
@gravitysoul28 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw yeah, even i just barely survived chaos elfilis with maxed out morpho sword AND attack boost … the fact that people usually don’t see that second phase coming (unless they spoil themselves) doesn’t help at all lmao a lot of people mentioned that maxed out toy hammer is insanely good for that boss fight, but i think maxed out crystal needle also deserves an honourable mention as well, someone managed to defeat the second phase of chaos elfilis with that ability in less than a minute! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GFUeaS7KVtc.html
@rubver6980
@rubver6980 2 года назад
You might've already known this but gooey was part of the dark Matter army before he became friends with kirby
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Ah yes, thank you. I forgot he debuted in Dreamland 2 before becoming playable in Dreamland 3.
@PyonMobileGaming98
@PyonMobileGaming98 2 года назад
Tbh The ultimate cup Z was pretty insane xD I thought I was gonna have trouble with Chaos Elfilis but it turns out I was able to memorize his attack patterns and the weapon I used was the morpho knight sword+⭐️ and good god it’s such a broken ability I finished it within 12mins and 41 seconds which was kind of hilarious because they are 12 bosses to fight lmao xD I may attempt it again but with the hammer ability!
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Good job! I hear the Toy Hammer is very powerful when upgraded!
@kirbstomp1338
@kirbstomp1338 2 года назад
I’m definitely going to watch episode 18, your conversations and green fought a of the game will be so fun to hear
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That's great to hear! We are looking forward to doing it very soon.
@rubver6980
@rubver6980 2 года назад
Kirby lore is way darker than it looks
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That is very true, especially in Planet Robobot and Triple Deluxe.
@rubver6980
@rubver6980 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw in the final boss of robobot you can hear haltmann screaming faintly in the background
@charismaentertainer1657
@charismaentertainer1657 2 года назад
WOW! I can’t believe you did all that in one setting?! Congratulations!
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thanks! It sure was an ordeal and we did it all very early in the morning lol
@thelightangel7559
@thelightangel7559 Год назад
I find it ironic how Chaos Elfilis can teleport, yet he sometimes decides to jump and fly around instead.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw Год назад
I guess they needed you to be able to actually hit him or else it would be impossible.
@calebgoodman3028
@calebgoodman3028 2 года назад
The fact Chaos Elfilis is a tournament boss is a little strange. The Waddle Dees just happen to have a competition where you can have a chance to fight a godlike entity of destruction and it’s somehow completely normal.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Good old video game logic lol. I mean it could be possible that Chaos Elfilis just shows up during the tournament because of you defeating Morpho Knight. I believe it's supposed to be in a different dimension anyway so I don't think they realize what could be happening.
@Kuu-n-koi2317
@Kuu-n-koi2317 2 года назад
iirc cmmentator waddle dee says that a portal appeared in the colosseum and that the ultimate cup z takes place in another dimension or smth
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@Kuu-n-koi2317 Yep, the commentator does say that, so I assume whatever is happening during this specific cup is in a totally different world where it won't affect the Waddle Dee Town or Forbidden Land at all.
@GuidingLightAngel
@GuidingLightAngel 2 года назад
Late, RU-vid didn't give me notifications, there is a way to make chaos elfilis so much harder, there is a bug in the game with hammer that lets you bounce super high, doing this and leaving the arena during orb form of chaos elfilis causes phase 1 to spawn in, meaning you can fight both phases at once, it's super challenging, highly recommend it, tip, use spring breeze mode and fall on the stairs cuz they are solid.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thanks! There was a few other people that told me about this. It's sounds pretty crazy. I might give it a shot in the future. I am just going to have to practice the glitch.
@shadowitz1789
@shadowitz1789 2 года назад
29:24 You could say he is Dededizzy! (Pun fully intended) Also take a swing everytime you hear "Ha ha Sucker"
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Lol! Yeah, I sure said that a lot. It's the downside of having recorded this so early in the morning.
@yamatanooroshikirin4001
@yamatanooroshikirin4001 2 года назад
Outside of what's obviously very broken, I personally did two more runs after just getting the completion for Ultimate Cup Z, one for Needle and one for Tornado. Aside from using buffs or just picking the most op abilities, Storm Tornado and Crystal Needle are actually pretty good against the final arena boss since they either kill all the orbs around it or pick up the orbs and use them as ammunition for throwing them back. Got around 14 minutes with both abilities with no buffs/stock item, slightly faster with Crystal Needle. Also, Tropic Wood's barriers are more like a maze; there's a path through them and if you go the right way you get a lot of free time to just hit him as many times as you want.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Wow, 14 minutes in insane! I like the fact that you can use the orbs against it. I think most people wouldn't even try that because they would rather use the OP abilities, so it's pretty cool that the game offers a lot of different ways to beat the bosses. Thanks for the tip on Tropic Woods. I was trying to do a no copy ability run earlier today and found that out. I couldn't believe I didn't figure that out earlier.
@CloverDragon03
@CloverDragon03 2 года назад
I can't dissociate Shaw's voice from Bandana Waddle Dee anymore
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That's pretty funny. I will have to tell him that.
@CloverDragon03
@CloverDragon03 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw Been playing Forgotten Land with a friend and anytime Bandana Dee revives, I just hear "I'm back motherfucka!" in my head in his voice. I love it
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@CloverDragon03 Haha, that is so awesome. That is really going to make it his day to hear that. Thank you!
@iluvtempura
@iluvtempura 2 года назад
I died as much as u do for ultimate cup Z too 😂😂
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Lol yeah, that second form is pretty rough.
@pjskFanWithALimbusCompanypfp
@pjskFanWithALimbusCompanypfp 2 года назад
Will watch as soon as I have free time. I suck at most true arenas, but this one I actually needed the Morpho Knight Ability as well as 2 Life ups, 1 used beforehand and 1 I kept with me. Morpho Knight's dodge helped alot.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
I can see why! This was pretty tough, but thankfully Michael was with me to help.
@mattiasernacchioli5317
@mattiasernacchioli5317 2 года назад
Finally the video of the ultimate cups, tbh this was a sick let's play and I loved it Thanks for all @Greke and Shaw And now to the next lp/video
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thank you for watching! We are glad you enjoyed the entire playthrough. There's going to be one more video, but it's just to collect the rest of the figures.
@mattiasernacchioli5317
@mattiasernacchioli5317 2 года назад
Ok thank you
@LzeniX
@LzeniX 2 года назад
There a glitched that if you use super jump in chaos elfilin fight and fall out of bound it will respawn you with second chaos elfilin to double the chaos
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@LzeniX Oh yeah! I heard about that. That sounds like it would be a nightmare to deal with lol.
@rotinderdalamaha9356
@rotinderdalamaha9356 2 года назад
28:56 had me all like "NOOOOOO!!!!!!" Grabbing 3 or more Tomatoes in an Arena Rest Stop break is a huge crime. Well, to me it is. It brings back bad memories of my friend rushing to grab all the Tomatoes in Kirby Super Star during the first Arena Rest Stop break. I couldn't stop him and explain to him in time that the Tomatoes would have to last us the whole Arena playthrough. I'm pretty sure we didn't make it to the end of that Arena playthrough.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That's unfortunate. At least the Super Star one isn't too hard. I am glad we still managed to beat this one, but it's too bad we had to continue a couple times to beat this. Did you end up completing the Super Star Arena even though they took all the Maxim Tomatoes?
@rotinderdalamaha9356
@rotinderdalamaha9356 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw I'm pretty sure we didn't make it to the end of that Arena playthrough. Well, we were doing The Arena for fun anyways, since my siblings and I already defeated The Arena on that save file.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@rotinderdalamaha9356 ah well, I guess that's not too bad then.
@Damariobros
@Damariobros Год назад
All the bosses have defense frames during certain animations. If you wait a little bit after the opening roar after they spawn in before hitting them with the charged attack you can one-shot the mid-bosses with upgraded Morpho Knight lmao And the charged shot takes out nearly half the health of most major bosses too
@Morpho_Knight
@Morpho_Knight 2 года назад
I defeated Chaos Elfilis on my first try with the Morpho Knight Sword
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That's probably why you are King Galacta Knight.
@EBTheOriginalMaster
@EBTheOriginalMaster 2 года назад
Congratulations on clearing The Ultimate Cup Z. Words can't describe how pissed off I was when I attempted the mode and died so many times to Chaos Eliflis Soul, to the point that I gave up on it. Idk if I'll ever return back to it as I have pretty much done everything the game offers. I have a 94% completion on my file as of now.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
It's a tough fight, that's for sure. It's those damn lasers that make it rough. They do such insane damage to you, even if you block them. I am sure you will be able to beat it at some point. I noticed that the boss uses all it's attacks in the same pattern every time. Once you know what's coming, it's easy to avoid most of it.
@EBTheOriginalMaster
@EBTheOriginalMaster 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw I actually went back to it this morning and finally beaten it, Lmao. I cleared it at 28:53.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That's awesome! Congrats! I knew you could do it.
@EBTheOriginalMaster
@EBTheOriginalMaster 2 года назад
Thank you
@lianaverwood9810
@lianaverwood9810 2 года назад
I warned you you'd need Morpho Sword +♡ and at least the second health bar (to hang onto the Sword Beams longer), so I'm glad to hear you admitting your underestimation of its necessity - even if you chose to half-ass things! But that's the thing about The Ultimate Cup Z: You start off feeling overpowered, so you allow yourself to make mistakes, taking damage here and there - using up what little food is supplied to you; Then when you reach around Forgo Dedede, everything onwards hits like a Bus, causing so much damage you waste the rest of the food just to survive the next battle; And then there's the Triple Threat of Forgo Leon, Morpho Knight and Chaos Elfilis. I'm actually surprised you managed to hang onto your remaining Health all the way to the Soul Battle, just on Bandana Waddle Dee and the minimal healing the Morpho Sword gives! And on the subject of Soul Elfilis, it's no surprise you were overwhelmed by it. Nobody on a Blind Playthrough would instantly pick up on all the BS attacks that thing launches at you - and starting the fight with _the freaking BLACK HOLE ATTACK_ is a serious Low Blow! Those Lasers do _way_ too much damage, they also fire too quickly to hit with an attack as a method of prevention, and the Laser Field moves completely at random - at least until it decides to send a quicklaser at you from behind you from offscreen! Then it goes Drawcia on you, faking you out before sending boulders falling towards you. It's actually surprising that it was this attack that did you in the first time - it's one of the Easiest attacks this boss has, and the longest-telegraphed one too, as you discovered! But yes, that Black Hole can easily come out of nowhere and end anyone's run, so don't feel bad about that. Having to endure the Chaos Elfilis fight before it's Soul every time you replay it is another kick in the teeth, too. This _single round_ is why I recommended the heavily-stacked preparations - the weardown throughout the rest of the Tournament is what sets you up for failure, so powering through them gives you more of a chance to get through the complete BS of Chaos Elfilis' arsenal! You may find that, at least in the Soul fight, you could even have an easier time beating Chaos Elfilis *without* a Copy Ability, since as long as you know when to attack and when to dodge, you can inhale the orbital blobs and fire them at it, which lowers the risk of damage while it's running that Laser Field. The number of closely-packed Stars it drops with its attacks also means you'll do much more damage to it per hit, provided you manage to hit it! But with that massive trial out of the way, it's smooth sailing to reaching 100% - unless you're bad at Tilt 'n' Tumble Ball Puzzles...
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Yeah, I grossly underestimated how difficult it would be, that's for sure. The Morpho Knight Sword definitely saved my ass for this insane gauntlet. It's too bad we lost 3 times on the Elfilis Soul, but I think now I can with confidence that it's not an unfair fight and I actually want to try and beat it without a copy ability. Thank you for sticking with us through the playthrough as well! As for 100%, that should be the next video. I thought all I needed was the figures, but is it true that I have to complete the Tilt and Tumble Extra Hard tables? I only have one left, but it's really tough...
@lianaverwood9810
@lianaverwood9810 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw I'm pretty sure you need to do at least the ones to earn the Special Figure associated with it. AFAIK, that'd be the Three-Star Puzzle complete...
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@lianaverwood9810 I finished the first set of three and received the figure for it. I am not sure there is anything for the Extra Hard ones other than Rare Stones.
@lianaverwood9810
@lianaverwood9810 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw You should be Good then.
@aishabrown6360
@aishabrown6360 2 года назад
I really like watching y’all for playing this game
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That's great to hear! Thanks for watching!
@aishabrown6360
@aishabrown6360 2 года назад
Ur welcome
@scottdreemurrthegodofcreation
@scottdreemurrthegodofcreation 2 года назад
And here we are
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
'And here we are!"
@susiehaltmann3342
@susiehaltmann3342 2 года назад
And we all thought the True Arena from Planet Robobot was brutal but try to do Ultimate Cup Z without paying for a retry
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Oh yeah, I tried it without copy abilities and it was very tough. I made it to Forgo Dedede before ultimately failing. I need to try it again.
@susiehaltmann3342
@susiehaltmann3342 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw what a huge understatement IMO THIS is the hardest arena in the franchise we'll at least without cheating if you pay to win or save an attack boost then your a wimp
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@susiehaltmann3342 I agree. We only used continues just to get through it for the video, but if we were to do it now, we would just start over.
@Firesonicx03
@Firesonicx03 2 года назад
Chaos elfilins have the same attacks but buff and fuse with morpho knight skills and powers making this boss more powerful than ever before it no joke
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Yeah! This boss was tough! Probably one of the hardest in Kirby history.
@kirbstomp1338
@kirbstomp1338 Год назад
I was about to comment explaining the plot of the true arena, and then I saw my own comment. And then I remembered this came out a year ago. And then I realized forgotten land came out over a year ago. And then I sat down and contemplated. Also did you watch that second lore video I sent?
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw Год назад
I haven't watched it yet, no. I should get around to it soon.
@joshthcookiekinghermit8387
@joshthcookiekinghermit8387 2 года назад
The 2nd time I faced Chaos Elfilis, I accidentally lost my copy ability just before beating the first phase. At first I thought I was toast until I found that I could suck the little orbs surrounding the thing, sometimes several at once...... Kinda made the final fight seemed trivial at the end.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That is good to know when I attempt to beat it with no copy ability. Thank you!
@huntergenovese5844
@huntergenovese5844 2 года назад
Although i'm a bit upset that you used retries instead of starting over, I think that it was a great video overall!
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
I am glad you enjoyed it. We are sorry that we had to resort to using retries, but we have very limited time together to do these videos so we have to make unfortunate choices at times so we can get these videos out.
@TimeturnerJ
@TimeturnerJ 2 года назад
So here's a fun little easy-to-miss detail I've been having a minor meltdown over: for his flying slash attacks, Morpho Knight's sword briefly turns into the fucking _Galaxia_ - like, hello?? What??? Why does he have that?! It's the fact that the flying slashes are Meta Knight's signature move, too - just like Morpho Knight has copied the signature abilities of other characters he has absorbed... Uh oh. Meta Knight? You good, buddy? Everything okay?? Is there something you would like to share with the class??? What does it all mean?! 🙀 This, coupled with the fact that Meta Knight's theme for this game is titled "Sword of the Surviving Guardian" for some reason, has me Concerned. Seriously, what's going on?? But also, this might mean that HAL is finally hinting at some Meta Knight lore, and that has me very excited. :D But also concerned. Extremely concerned. 😔✊
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
That's a really cool, but concerning, detail for sure! I don't think it means anything, but it would be great to see HAL dive into some lore of Meta Knight. I have always been wondering just who and what he is.
@meta9492
@meta9492 2 года назад
It might just be a shared effect that they forgot to change, but I really hope it actually means something
@TimeturnerJ
@TimeturnerJ 2 года назад
@@meta9492 It's definitely deliberate - it's not just the Galaxia, it's an altered model of the Galaxia. It has the Galaxia's blade, but the hilt and pommel are that of Morpho Knight's sword. So if they went through the trouble of making an entire new model just for this, it's probably not insignificant.
@Kuu-n-koi2317
@Kuu-n-koi2317 2 года назад
"Sword of The Surviving Guardian" probably refers to how he is the sole guardian of waddle dee town but it could have a double meaning
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@Kuu-n-koi2317 Yeah, it's pretty unclear, but I am sure that there is some intention behind it. I mean, Morpho Knight absorbed Galacta Knight at one point, even though that isn't considered 'canon' so to speak.
@Bowser6495
@Bowser6495 2 года назад
Time for the final installment of Kirby and the Forgotten Land bosses in a nutshell let's do this! Phantom Meta Knight: Ok I know last time the normal version didn't exactly fight honourably last time but I swear this time it will be an actual honorable sword duel. "Phantom Meta Knight proceeds to use Boulders and Cloning" (Facepalming) Goddammit! Chaos Elfilis (1st Form): Anime battle 2.0 Chaos Elfilis (2nd Form): "Does almost half my heath in a single attack" HA HA I'M IN DANGER!
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Yeah, those lasers do too much damage. It's ridiculous! lol I was trying to beat Ultimate Cup Z with no copy abilities earlier and I only made it past Phantom Meta Knight once. I lost to Phantom Forgo Dedede because I pretty much had no health left. It's been fun learning the boss attacks, but man does it take a long time.
@Bowser6495
@Bowser6495 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw I'm sure it does
@cjrecio5702
@cjrecio5702 2 года назад
Now for something wholesome. Have you guys seen the It's Kirby Time videos that have been uploaded recently? If not, I highly recommend you watch them, there are going to be 7 readings in total.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
I have not heard of them. I will try and find time to check them out.
@koenvandemeulengraaf4823
@koenvandemeulengraaf4823 2 года назад
You guys didn't notice, but the morpho knight sword ability has an hp absorbing ability
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
We did notice it. We brought it up in the video at some point. Such a useful ability for the final boss. I don't know how we would have done it without it.
@koenvandemeulengraaf4823
@koenvandemeulengraaf4823 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw oh, I guess I missed it
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@koenvandemeulengraaf4823 That's OK. It is a long video after all and I am sure you skipped through parts like most people would. I hope I didn't come across as rude.
@testx0170
@testx0170 2 года назад
Please add captions, I don't know why they don't appear?
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thanks, I am working on it.
@yate0128
@yate0128 2 года назад
Ultimate form of Kirby final bosses: *Sphere*
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
It makes sense in some strange way since our hero is basically just a round puffball of pink. Who thought a sphere could be so deadly?
@metaKnightSpamer777
@metaKnightSpamer777 2 года назад
'And here We are!'
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
'And here We are!"
@SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance
My Ultimate Cup Z record is below 12 minutes. Solo, with double health and Morpho Knight Sword.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw Год назад
That is impressive! I have always wanted to go back and try to get a better time, but I have just been so focused on playing other things for the entire year so far.
@SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance
@@grekeandshaw Thanks! It wasn't my first run, so I had some experience with the bosses, and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw Год назад
@@SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance I would expect for such a good record time that it would take some practice.
@SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance
@@grekeandshaw It's just over 8 minutes now. But it was tense, and I had all the powerups in effect for max time. I actually lost Morpho Knight Sword in Phase 3 of the Chaos Elfilis fight, and had to finish the battle with no ability. Good thing I was able to inhale the orbs!
@tbonstead93
@tbonstead93 2 года назад
Kirby with out abilities melts the last phase of Chaos Elfilis
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
So I have heard. I can't to try it out myself!
@rubver6980
@rubver6980 2 года назад
Chaos elfilin's ball phase is a mix of void termina and Marx's attacks
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
As well as Drawcia. I didn't know about that much until I did research because I haven't played Canvas Curse yet.
@fangorn875
@fangorn875 2 года назад
You can put up to 3 of the gatcha figures on top of the fireplace in Kirby House
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Oh yeah, we found that out. We are going to decide which ones to place there in the next video.
@thelightangel7559
@thelightangel7559 2 года назад
If you guard against Chaos Elfilis’s crescent beam, tornadoes, and portal lasers, you won't take damage.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Oh wow, I had no idea that it wouldn't do any damage at all if I just blocked. Seems pretty silly of me not to do so.
@thelightangel7559
@thelightangel7559 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw I don't blame you because when you guard against any attack, you take some damage. The tornadoes are strange because you can't guard against morpho knight’s tornadoes, yet you can with Chaos Elfilis’s tornadoes. Also, lasers in past games deal more damage and aren't guardable. So it's understandable that you didn't know.
@jordandorsett3106
@jordandorsett3106 Год назад
26:22 Even though Chaos Elfiles' is Tough and fast I FIND THAT PHANTOM META KNIGHT IS MUCH MORE CRAZIER!!!! (HE'S FASTER STRONGER AND DANGEROUS)
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw Год назад
I agree that Phantom Meta is TOUGH! I lost many attempts at beating Ultimate Cup Z with no abilities to him. I eventually gave up, but I should go back to it sometime.
@StiffAftermath
@StiffAftermath Год назад
Can you re-beat the last boss to get the second ending again? I love being able to see the whole ending some times.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw Год назад
It would probably be easier to search it up on RU-vid somewhere else. We aren't going back to this game since it's been over a year now and we did everything to get 100%. Sorry.
@StiffAftermath
@StiffAftermath Год назад
@@grekeandshaw I did look, through 30 plus videos. I Google it. Noone talked about it. Was hoping for a bone here, but I regret that I could not find the answer from your suggestion.
@NL-X
@NL-X 2 года назад
Try doing this without the upgrated power ups. It's insane! Far more harder than just Kirby.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
I heard it was very tough with the basic Sword because it does far less damage than the stars.
@AshSmashReacts
@AshSmashReacts 2 года назад
At least until I beat it the first time, I don't like to go into arenas with powered up abilities. Simply knowing that it can be difficult isn't good enough for me. I have to actually experience that difficulty myself. That's why I do it. And, I can never be satisfied with beating Meta Knight unless it's with a sword.
@AshSmashReacts
@AshSmashReacts 2 года назад
It's no fun at all if you try to rush through it on the first try.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Well, we have a limited amount of time to play so we need to make sure we get through it. This isn't our job, so it's kind of difficult to get through all the games we want to play if we play it how other people want us to.
@AshSmashReacts
@AshSmashReacts 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw I'm sorry, then. I guess it gets hard to maintain a schedule when there's a lot of games yet to play.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@AshSmashReacts It's ok, I am not trying to be defensive. It's just the way it is for us, unfortunately. I wish we had more time to play the things people want us to play, but we both work full time jobs on top of other responsibilities we have. It would be nice if we could make this our jobs down the line.
@AshSmashReacts
@AshSmashReacts 2 года назад
​@@grekeandshaw After seeing you suffer against Phantom Meta Knight. I take back my first comment. I didn't know his magma attack did that much damage. My goodness.
@ViroVeteruscy
@ViroVeteruscy 2 года назад
Hope you do the challenge solo and no powers. Bandana Dee as a constant DoT as well as divert some attacks away from Kirby helps a little too much.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Yep! I will be doing a video for that sometime soon.
@ViroVeteruscy
@ViroVeteruscy 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw Would have added "no dodge button" to the list as every Boss in the game can be beaten without it but figured it'd be a bit too much add. Kirby games are very flexible with their difficulty as you can choose to not use certain mechanics to make the game harder and still be fair. This on top of there actually being a harder difficulty mode for Forgotten Land is a nice step. Hopefully future Kirby games just have more options to make the game harder like turning more functions/mechanics off. Mostly this would be for the Arenas or whatever version of the challenge/secrets Bosses that comes as the default story/game doesn't need it normally (though the option is still welcomed).
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@ViroVeteruscy I agree completely. It would be great for them to add more things so players can choose what to do to make it harder. Not sure how they would implement it, but they are already a step in the right direction with Wild Mode.
@chrisfaithraguel9013
@chrisfaithraguel9013 2 года назад
With the upgraded toy hammer, all you need to do is charge it to full, release the swing, and one shot mini bosss and do 2/3 of the bosss health. Except for chaos elfilis where you do around maybe 1/5.
@chrisfaithraguel9013
@chrisfaithraguel9013 2 года назад
Sorry, forgot to say that it is powerful when you have the attack up. Its still more powerful even though you dont use the attack up
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@chrisfaithraguel9013 Wow, that is crazy! It makes me want to attempt this with the Toy Hammer now.
@doilooklikeyourmanager5938
@doilooklikeyourmanager5938 2 года назад
Weird, I did not hear that sentence from the final boss Chaos Elfilis. Elfilis soul like form always say "Here we are" and "F86," it is El mess up dialogue from his past. Did you hear it 🧐?
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
I did not happen to hear that.
@doilooklikeyourmanager5938
@doilooklikeyourmanager5938 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw Ah, try watch some one play chaos elfilis, you probably hear it. Talk to me if heard it from other videos, or l'll give you link. No rick n roll! 😀
@Malwareinfestation
@Malwareinfestation 2 года назад
if you wanna keep most of your health i suggest using ice bc it has an unbreakable block
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Thanks! Other people were suggesting that as well.
@Dao128
@Dao128 2 года назад
Why?! Why would you go into that last fight without double health and a pocket Maximum Tomato?! Why?! I managed to solo it [keeping both HP bars btw] and it was STILL nerve-wracking!
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
I underestimated how hard it was going to be and I wanted to make it as difficult as I could. Sure, it took three attempts, but it was satisfying!
@nerysstuart4210
@nerysstuart4210 2 года назад
"Am I bad at dodging? No, it's the game that's dumb"
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Wait, did I say that? If so, could you timestamp it for me? I remember saying the boss is bullshit, but now that I understand it better, it's a more fair fight than I thought. Also, yes, I suck at dodging.
@nerysstuart4210
@nerysstuart4210 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw I was quoting the "am I out of touch? No, it's the kids who are wrong" meme lmao
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@nerysstuart4210 Oh, ok. I thought I was being a dickhead in the video lol
@chrisfaithraguel9013
@chrisfaithraguel9013 2 года назад
Maybe in a final video, you do the hammer glitch on chaos elfilis 2nd phase to fight two of them. It will be like a true final challenge.
@chrisfaithraguel9013
@chrisfaithraguel9013 2 года назад
Just make sure to use a life up before and bring an extra life up.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@chrisfaithraguel9013 I could try it, but I will have to get better at using the glitch first. Thanks for the great idea for a video!
@chrisfaithraguel9013
@chrisfaithraguel9013 2 года назад
Your welcome. By the way, I like to call the 2 chaos elfilis duo elfilis and its really tough. With each of them covering the others flaws. But man, you can get some cool pics with it.
@AGGRESSIVEMILK69
@AGGRESSIVEMILK69 2 года назад
Ngl I found ultimate cup Z way to easy and a good way to grind stars
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
I can understand that. It's probably pretty easy for quite a few people, especially with certain abilities.
@consideratebulbproductions4277
@consideratebulbproductions4277 2 года назад
I mean, if you use Stat Boosts and Fully Upgraded Abilities lol. Anything else will result in it being PRETTY difficult.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@consideratebulbproductions4277 Yeah, that's true. We did go into this with the fully upgraded Morpho Knight, but no other Stat boosts. I am surprised we made it through.
@323starlight
@323starlight 2 года назад
Wanna know a joke? DSPgaming.... lol no seriously though, this boss made DSP rage quit Kirby
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Lol Phil is such a joke. He should just stop. Seriously. He is not a good person nor is he even slightly entertaining to watch.
@Pancakes_Master
@Pancakes_Master 2 года назад
Something I didn't see you mention, the song that plays at the first part of the second phase of the ultimate final boss (that's a mouthful) is, well, this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--WMonWNdqzg.html. And the attack at 54:43 is Marx's attack. In fact, the burning sphere, black hole, and splatter attack that chases you down are also from Marx's Soul, although the burning sphere isn't an exact copy, it's more just a very similar attack style. And they also take the laser attack and bouncing attack from Void, who takes the bouncing attack from Drawcia Soul, who also has the burning sphere, cutters, and splatter attack. Sectonia's Soul also has those three. Wild.
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Oh wow, that is incredible. I didn't even realize the bouncing sphere was from a different boss other than Void. Drawcia is from Canvas Curse, is that right? I have never played it so I am just taking a wild guess.
@legendary_legend841
@legendary_legend841 Год назад
What is so hard about this thing it gives you like 10 hours to read it's attack chaos elfilis is so easy I beat 2 of them at once with no copy abilities no boosts in wild mode and set a record for the fastest time to defeat it
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw Год назад
Well, congrats to you. I really don't care.
@legendary_legend841
@legendary_legend841 Год назад
@@grekeandshaw what I don't care about is you beating the easiest boss in the game
@jonathanmartinez2788
@jonathanmartinez2788 8 месяцев назад
16:54
@AneonAnon
@AneonAnon 2 года назад
the final charge on the morpho blade just eats through boss health. ive beaten the entire collasium x in under 10 min becuse of it
@AneonAnon
@AneonAnon 2 года назад
after a lot of practice and with powerups of course
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Wow, 10 minutes is amazing! Congrats! I am trying to practice Ultimate Cup Z with no cop abilities right now and it's pretty good until Meta Knight. He is just so fast.
@AneonAnon
@AneonAnon 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw yea- i tried it once and i just couldn't. i failed it around 5 times (no continues i was trying to save coins) before giving up. hope you have better luck with it then i do
@crowcoregames1785
@crowcoregames1785 2 года назад
so i know this is gona make u mad but when you dodge with morpho sword if you spam it even if it seems like u dodge into the lazers morpho swords dodge is so stupidly busted that by spaming it any time this boss atacks (minus metor and black hole atacks) you never take any damage even sitll this boss took me way too meany trys than id like to admit
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
No worries! I understand that I was not dodging properly and people are going to think I am not playing the game efficiently, but it's also not easy trying to do this while commentating. I will get better at it for sure.
@crowcoregames1785
@crowcoregames1785 2 года назад
@@grekeandshawyou still did relay well imo, the game never tells you morphos dodge is difrent than regular dodge and also never tells you normal dodge exists. And for some reson (maybe a bug?) The timeing on morphos dodge isnt always 100% visualy clear for when youve dodged, cant count how meany times the lazors or bounce atack hit me becuse i dodged but nah i take damage becuse *shrug*
@Pokeninja7
@Pokeninja7 2 года назад
I beat without abilitiesss
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Congrats! How long did it take you? I tried a few times this morning without any additional power ups and made it to Phantom Forgo Dedede.
@DIVINE-SMOKE-GENERAL-MAHORAGA
@DIVINE-SMOKE-GENERAL-MAHORAGA 2 года назад
18 viewer
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Yeah, sorry. We swore and screamed A LOT during this.
@Kurumithespiritnightmare
@Kurumithespiritnightmare 2 года назад
wow nice job on the ultimate cup z i actually had a hard time with caos elflis as well especially phase 2 but i eventually beat him hell i actually used the toy hammer against him which made him seem like a joke because of how utterly Powerful the toy hammer + is which is honestly why i love it so much as i tend to focus on power in my games especially rpgs and such i made a video about using the toy hammer against caos elflis too and by the way my mom heard you guys cursing and was not really happy hearing it from my phone but i honestly thought it’s hilarious lol but anyways awesome video keep up the good work my friend
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
Sorry about the swearing! I really need to tone it down, but it's just my go to language when things are insane. Also, congrats on finishing the Ultimate Cup Z! It's a tough arena, but thankfully the game gives you lots of tools to use to help get through it.
@Kurumithespiritnightmare
@Kurumithespiritnightmare 2 года назад
@@grekeandshaw no it’s fine i’m honestly completely fine with you guys swearing as much as you guys want lol it’s really funny and yea it’s honestly one of the hardest arenas because of caos elflis alone because he’s the hardest kirby boss of all time so it’s definitely worth fighting him in the end
@grekeandshaw
@grekeandshaw 2 года назад
@@Kurumithespiritnightmare Well, I am glad you enjoy it! It's just not good around parents lol. My mom always tells me I swear too much. lmao Chaos Elfilis is definitely the hardest boss I have faced in Kirby, although I still haven't fought Star Dream OS yet...
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