The Ultimate FLIGHT SIM JOYSTICK? Logitech 3D Pro 

Bro, you opened that package like a savage - like a vegetarian assaulting an avocado.

USB-A plugs are designed to never be the right way up the first time you try to plug it in. haha

I've had the same joystick as you since 2006. Seeing yours made me think "So that's what color it is."

I also have the Logitech 3Dpro at the age of 12 and I’m very satisfied

This joystick has been designed for the right hand!

I had 8 Logitech 3D Pro joy sticks that went though 5 years of aviation summer camps with 8 to 14 year olds. Then 7 years of high school aviation program. They were used a lot. I still have them all and still works great. Can't beat it for the price.

Basic sim setups make you work a lot harder to make up for the lack of normal controls usually available to you in the cockpit, which is great cause it will force you to improve your scan rate! It’s great fun to set zero visibility and fly an ils all the way to touch down and see if you can get it on the runway....keeping up with those twitchy needles the closer you get gets very challenging , failing an engine in a twin makes it even more exciting! Home flight sims are so useful!

i literally have this for about 10 years now, most of the buttons still work. :D

if you want a left handed joystick i can really reccomend the thrustmaster t16000m joystick, it allows you to make it a left or right handed joystick

You can edit the response curves with linear and non linear for the joystick sometimes its too sensitive and sometimes its lacking sensitivity you can adjust this by reducing the gradient of the curve. Helped me alot bc flying the 777 and C172 is soo different

Good to see we both are using the same joystick 😁 Great video Stef!

Great video Stefan👍 thanks for the information on what a good cheap flight sim setup for a student pilot is. Also i never knew just a flight sim joystick could include a rudder and throttle!

Really great video considering all of the flight sim videos these days. Thanks Stefan!

I've used one of these Joysticks for a few years now along with the Flight Sim built into Google Earth. Great combination for practice flying a navigation exercise or for familiarising yourself when planning to fly to a new location! It even has a SR22 built into it!

thank you for the demo I got one just like this and I used it for years like 20 years and it works for all planes and I hold a PPl since 1981 thank you for the demo I am glad you like this one.

This guy really just promoted the Logitech 3d pro in 2020, what a concept 😂😂😂😂😂😂

These are the vids i was waiting for again.

Thanks! Great vid!!! I’m planning to get the exact same thing. Very helpful!

"Older style USB" haha your hilarious. PC master race!

Been using this for 2 years.. I love it a LOT

wow thanks specially on mac , just the video i was looking for.

Great video Stefan been a big fan since like ages lol. Stay safe :)

It's $32 US on Newegg right now. I picked one up for Flight Sim 2020 in a few days.

There is one trick this joystick played on me when I was practicing before my first flight as a student. Yaw axis control. To turn right you need to turn joystick clockwise. Seems logical. I got used to this wery well after many hours in simulator. But when I got in the real airplane and used rudder pedals for turning I got confused... To turn right you move your right foot forward, left goes backwards... which is counter-clockwise! Intuitive direction of steering is exactly opposite from what you have on joystick. As a result it took me more that one lesson to unlearn this and start steering correctly. So my advice for anyone planning on using this kind of joystick - also buy pedals.

Awesome edit Stefan! Love it!

Thanks for getting one!

I have been working on my Instrament written and using my flight sim along the way. One of these days I will fly a decent ILS :) I have the Logitech Yoke, Pedals and Throttle Quadrant. IT is also really good for learning things like how to use the G1000 or GNS530 when you are not paying $$$ to do so

I purchased this stick after watching this video. Thanks for the recommendation!

PERFECT DEMONSTRATION ... WELL DONE 👏

Was debating getting this joystick and XP, now I know I'll definitely get them :)

I was thinking to myself during your first approach "remember to the gear down." Good job Stef!

I used the Extreme 3D Pro for years doing online combat with IL-2 Sturmovik. I wore out three of them, but they each had three years use of at least 25 hours each week and could be repaired by replacing a worn pot.

Good video and very appropriate during this trying time. I too have a very similar setup to you including the same joystick. Simple, inexpensive and quite effective. From my experience I’ve found it most effective for practicing IFR procedures. Many aspects of IFR flying. Is it a tear drop or a parallel entry, the hold, course reversals, going missed... combining the sim with actual ATC communications available from many sources like RU-vid, Live ATC, etc can, in my option, keep certain aspects of our IFR skills sharper than they would otherwise be. Using the sim with foreflight on the iPad is particularly effective. Perhaps there are other iPad apps, that might work just was well, that you could have available to you. Thanks for the reminder! Love your channel.

nice video well done stefan a+

Cool video stef! Ive got the same one as well as the yoke and throttle. but the joystick is definitely worth it. Keep up the cool videos :)

Another awesome video ^^. I have that joystick too. Was using the twist for yaw for a while then got some pedals. Took a little while to stop twisting the stick for the rudder as Force of habit. xD

Very informative video

I bought one of these probably over 10 years ago. Almost gave it away but decided just to hold on to it, and I'm glad I did now. I've been thinking about getting Flight Simulator and hopefully this will work with the game.

We used these Logitech JS back in the BF1942 days, good family of joysticks, my wife likes 3D Pro, (for planes), I prefer the Wingman Extreme, it has better side throttle position IMHO (helicopters). Both our nearly twenty year old Logitechs are still working perfectly in 2021.

Pretty cat, i have 3, just purchased the Logitech 3D Pro, looking forward to the full release of X-Plane 12, thanks for the review.

Another punchy and entertaining video. Well done. Keep them coming. I have the same joystick, and am very satisfied. Can you please do an RNAV-Z for Moorabbin 35R??

Ha, I found my Extreme 3d Pro sitting on the side of the road during a free giveaway weekend like five years ago, I still use it to this day!

this is the only good review video! thank you

i'm amazed these are still being produced i have had one since 2005

I have been using one of these for at least a decade. I have tried all the other gadgets and I end up with this thing back on my desk at the end of the day

Ordered one today. Can't wait to use it in DCS World

Legendary timing Stefan! Was told on multiple occasions that the Logitech 3D Pro won't work on my MacBook Pro with X Plane. Obviously I should have checked your channel first. I've just ordered one. Have not been very successful flying with the mouse/keyboard so I can't wait to get some more realistic flying completed on X Plane. As always mate, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.

I also have this joystick, I’ve had it for 5 years with no problems:)

I have had this joystick for quite some time and I like it

Nice video! Affordable joystick that does the job!

That's the one I'm using right now. Recommended for retro flight simulators 😀

I got the same one a few weeks ago from a thrift store for 3 dollars. Its so good

I have one of these and the most positive feedback I can give is that it was relatively cheap and it works

I had this exact Stick since I first started flight simming, because I was not old enough to fly yet. It still works to this day. Good choice of hardware!

The Thrustmaster T16000m is a bit more expensive, but well worth it IMO. It's ambidextrous, with configurable hand and thumb rests. It has several more buttons (and an symmetrical throttle). Most importantly however, it has hall effect sensors, not potentiometers; it will last forever! Those Logitech sticks flog out in as little as 6 months of light flying and with such a small range on rudder input/stick twist, it will end up driving you crazy!

Nicely done, Will be back.

Great review man!😉 But can you Show a replay of the landing in 3rd Person next time?

I have about six or seven 3D Pros. Most of them I bought at flea markets or thrift stores for under $10(US). They all cleaned up and calibrated perfectly, when I got them home. You can buy them new for $35(US) at Best Buy ( bestbuy.com ). The 3D Pro is THE MOST ergonomic stick you'll find. After a several hour game session, your hand will thank you, believe me. And don't believe the propaganda about the sensors on the 3D Pro. As long as you have a gentle hand on the controls, yours should last you for MANY years, FAR beyond the value you would expect for the low price. Not only that, but the button placement and ergonomics are MUCH better than on the Thrustmaster T16000m. The buttons on the T1600m are also known to break very easily and fail VERY quickly. I own six different types of joysticks and two types of HOTASs. With all that hardware, guess what's sitting on my desk, that I actually fly with. Yep, a 3D Pro. BTW, watching you use a 3D Pro left handed is like nails on a chalkboard. :) If you HAVE rudder pedals and want a similar (but non-twist) ambidextrous stick, pick up a used Logitech Attack 3 off Amazon or eBay. The Attack 3 (left) and Extreme 3D Pro (right) also make a great two-stick setup for space sims.

I bought my Logitech Extreme 3D Pro in 2005 and apart from a bit of rudder wobble in the middle and hard button presses it's good.

"I didn't assign a button for flaps" ... A euphemism left on the 'Blade Runner' cutting room floor.

I can't believe they still manufacture this. I sincerely recommend T16000 if you are looking for a beginner stick. It is a bit more expensive but the quality is night and day.

i have this exact joy stick its pretty good

Casey would be very proud of your unboxing technique!!! I have an older Logitech Attack 3 joystick and I am all over the runway during takeoff without any rudder control. Can't even assign keys. Might have to upgrade

I had this stick once. But if you use it to play Tie Fighter it will quickly wear out because there is a lot of maneuvers in that game that requires extreme movement to fire on the enemy or avoid being fired on.

For a general purpose joystick my buddies and I, after our Sidewinders failed, switched to the 3D Pro. Along with Thrustmaster (TFRP) pedals. The 3D Pro is approx, in the UK, £39.00 at the time of writing and the TFRPs, approx £80.00-90.00. The downside with the 3DP is that it's handed, whereas a Thrustmaster stick can be configured. The 3DPro is great value and great durability too, so are the TM pedals. On the 3D Pro wear in the throttle lever eventually does for them, but still usable - some aircraft over rev/runaway that's all LOL! I use the top hat button for outside views etc. I use the trigger as a trigger (for combat sims) or brake for stick brakes as fitted to certain ultralights (or TM pedal toe brakes as appropriate for most other aircraft).

I have the same joystick myself, its an excellent cost-effective joystick, however, its made for a right hand. Had it for 2 years now, hardly any wear and tear but I've tripped over the cable multiple times and bent the usb plug an socket...

Hey mate, disable the ai aircraft in the x plane menu, as this will really improve your fps( by about 30 in my case whilst flying the default c172). Just a heads up for ya! Great video!

Got this stick for my birthday. Cant wait for MS Flight sim 2020, only one month to go...🤩🥳

Bought it for $49, sat 3 years and along comes MFS2020, BINGO! Still going strong...love it, now that I have a cheap gaming pc! Ignore that last comment below

I'm a flight sim newbie, but I just purchased this joystick for MSFS 2020. Thanks for the review!

nice vid. I fly the same stick and you really get used to fly with the left hand .and now on to the virtual around the world trip :-)

Great vid

Nice one Stef , I had a joystick similar to that and in the settings you should be able to adjust the sensitivity of the Joystick so as to make the flying even more real . Hope your back in EYZ soon , I,m going to try and do my IFR currency this week some time , will bring the cameras along .. stay safe ..

It actually a very good joystick because I have the joystick and xplane11 so great choice of joystick.

I have this joystick till 2006.Works correctly today.

I like the go-pro suction holder in the graphics of the sim program. Anyway... I'm looking into a T handle throttle for the centre, USB port cable. In closing, thanks.

Thanks - really interesting! Rotten XP11 performance on that that laptop though!

Oh dear Stef mate you bounced it on that initial approach. LOL I love X Plane but can't get the hang of it really. I pretty much stick to FSX and my yoke. Really looking forward to the 2020 version later in the year. :-)

One of the first things to start getting wonky will be that twist stick and the lock that keeps it from twisting. If you want a solid. dependable, durable flight sim joystick that will last over 5 to 10 years of almost daily use, get a CH fighterstick. In the space of 6 years I've had 2 saitek 45's an X52 and an X56. 3 logitec sticks, (the same one in this vid) and a thrustmaster joystick. Since then I've owned the same CH joystick since 2008. And aside from having to clean it and one time opening it to put silicone grease in the friction components, it moves just as smoothly and with the same precision now as it did when i took it out of the box.

I had this joystick for 20 or so years and only had to replace it cause one of our bunnies chewed the cable

I love the video

I use this joystick, I am very satisfied with its performance. For this price simply the best solution.

Yep..I've got two or three and get some rudder peddles..and you're all set...Flight Simming is good for practicing flying!!! And its fun too!!!! Simmers Unite!!!

I had one of these joysticks and it was a disaster. After about a year it started developing creep in the rudder (twist) function. No amount of calibration would solve this. I had to disassemble it and rig up something to rotate the potentiometer enough to get the rudder to centre properly. Over time, even that started to fail. Two other friends of mine developed the same problem as well. One started developing problems barely two months into ownership, the other had it develop after about a year. I subsequently replaced it with a Saitek AV8R-01 and that was brilliant...until one of the throttle controls started to fail too...sigh. Anyway, enjoy your joystick, but don't be surprised if problems start to develop before too long.

Hi Stefan, I have not found yet the SF50 in anywhere, where can I get it? and also other question, how realistic do you consider the SR22T G3 of Carenado to training for Cirrus?

Its a cool one! I found a force feedback on Amazon you should look into!

That's one photogenic cat!

Great, thanks it was VERY helpful. Keep them coming. Tesla Paul

OMG I HAVE THAT JOY STICK THE SAME EXACT

What do you think of having the throttle on one stick vs a separate device / using your other hand? My desk space is limited & I will probably get the single stick, but adjusting the throttle looked awkward.

I have the old MS Sidewinder Force feedback 2 joystick. It's a quality product. Once in a while MS does something right. Try it, if you can find one second hand.

Saw the title and was like no way did Stef actually get the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro? I recommended it to you a few videos ago and I was sure you would love it, and I am about to watch the video and I am sure you will. I hope my comment might've helped at all and I am super happy you now have a more realistic flight sim experience! I assume you might've found out the vatsim multiplayer with that "student pilot'? Nice pick Stef!

I use that same joystick for when I play warthunder and eventually fs 2020

I have the same one, I also own the vflyteair SR20 and find the extreme works really well for it. If you are looking for a piston cirrus plane buy the SR20

my first flight stick :)

I'm on my second one since FS2004. These babies are very well built and have more buttons than great grandpa's long underwear. FS2020 recognized it and assigned all buttons and controls to diff control defaults. Of course I changed most of them to my tastes.

I've had one of those joysticks for probably 10 years. It's a stupidly old design (2003) that hasn't changed.

I have the joystick from aussie too. it's a great joystick i've played xplane for a long time i cannot fly because of health reasons but that might be coing to a end

I have one of these, and would like to use it on my, PS2/3, Xbox 360, Wii, Wii U, and Switch. I also have a steering wheel with pedals I would like to do the same with. Once I replace my dead PC, I'm// use them on that as well.

One day I'll get into flight sims