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Witches can´t be compelled. Even with Bonnie´s mom without powers, she is still technically a witch, so she is safe from compulsion. I understand that she wanted a new start because after losing her power, it must have been hard for her, but in my eyes what she did was wrong. She just disappeared like she never had a daughter. What makes it all even worse she still took care of Jamie after she totally forgot about her own kid and didn't at least try to have a minimum contact with her. Little fun fact: the actress who plays Bonnie's mother, Persia White is married to Joseph Morgan (Klaus) in real life, and this is actually where they first met.
I absolutely agree with your comment! 💯 Yep, she should have been there for Bonnie. Even if she had no powers left, she had experience she could share with her daughter.
Seasons 1 and 2 Damon would have definitely killed Meredith after she stabbed him with Vervain, so I love that he didn't even hurt her because he understood what she meant to Alaric. Really enjoying his growth. This episode also showed how good of a friend Elena is. She stopped Damon and Stefan from coming with them because she wanted Bonnie to have a good experience meeting her mum. It was around this time that I started to realize that Klaus and Stefan's feud is weirdly unnecessary. All Klaus would have to do is capture Stefan, drain him of the Vervain, then recompel him to obey and give his family back. But I do enjoy the drama that comes with Stefan's plot armor. I love that Elijah's baccccck!! There is just something about him that's so unique. Him and Klaus, I wish I could see them in every episode.
I agree with Aiden, it's hella selfish of Bonnie's mom that she just abandoned Bonnie and on top of that she adopted and raised another kid ( Jamie). Talk about twisting that knife, ouch! And Kyle I love that you always come with different perspectives :D Aqeel, love your humor and your jokes during the reactions and you're laugh makes me laugh :D Sometimes you're a little harsh towards Kyle though :P But you guys are awesome reactors! :D Can't wait to see y'alls next TVD reaction ^ ^
So sweet that Elena went with Bonnie to find her mom and she didn’t want either of the Salvatores involved bc it’s something personal to Bonnie. Elena using the fact that Jamie was compelled to not hurt her to her advantage in order to save Stefan, big brain 😌 Damon undaggering Elijah yay This episode shows what I mentioned in my comment in the last reaction, there are zero consequences for what Stefan did to Elena last episode. He doesn’t even properly apologize to her, he just acknowledges the bridge was too far after she tells him she kissed Damon. Not even a single day of anybody being upset with him, it’s just forgotten and moved on from. It made me upset bc why isn’t Stefan getting held accountable by the characters…it’s so frustrating.
@@LovedByYou Elena doesn't hold him accountable she pointed it out then never brought it up again. She wasn't happy with him but its like they all moved on.
@@LovedByYou I don’t think Stefan was held accountable and this wasn’t about Damon so I’m not sure why you brought him up. “Just like they overlook all of Damon’s horrendous behavior” since you want to include him in the discussion over what Stefan did to Elena, the comparable Damon scene would be force feeding her blood in 2x20. Even then it’s not the same bc it was under very different circumstances but I’ll use that scene anyway. Damon was wrong to feed Elena his blood in s2 but his reasoning was him wanting her to be alive. He thought he was saving her if all else failed. It was also done impulsively. What Stefan does is take her to the bridge her parents went over in a speeding car. His reasoning for feeding her his blood was bc he was hyper focused on his revenge. He put her through that trauma again and used the state of her mental health as leverage. It wasn’t impulsively done. He planned out taking her to that bridge, he counted on having her panic, and he decided it was a good idea. Then in this episode Stefan says “don’t tempt me Elena” when she asks if he’s going to kidnap her again so that she won’t tell anyone where the coffins are as if last episode wasn’t enough. He’s evidently very remorseful the day after he did that to her *sarcasm*. I’ll even humor you, let’s act like both Stefan and Damon’s situations are the same thing: What’s the outcome of what Damon did? Elena was upset with him and Damon in the same episode tries to remedy his mistake. Both brothers were wrong when they fed her blood but only one of them actually apologizes to her for what they did and asks for her forgiveness (hint: it wasn’t Stefan). For me it’s not just about actions, the intentions behind what’s being done and the consequences are important. The aftermath of both of the feeding Elena blood scenes weren’t the same. Elena told Damon that she needed more time when he apologized and that’s fine, I’m glad he’s held accountable, but why isn’t Stefan getting the same treatment when his reasoning was his revenge and under worse circumstances? I don’t mind characters liking Stefan it just seems like sometimes Stefan is free from criticism from most of the other characters no matter what he does. I’m not trying to start a debate over it but the bridge scene was 1000% brushed over and I, as an Elena fan, am frustrated by the way the writers chose to do that.
@@LovedByYou the problem is everybody knows damon is the way he is so when he acts out or does things selfishly thats his character NOT stefans so when stefan does it its not the same he is supposed to be the nice and caring one that everyone gives him credit for being also while damon was in love with elena he never purposely put her life in danger and he would have never did what stefan did to her. Your making excuses cus you like stefan
@@teamxloadin3128 I think you are right with your premise but you are wrong in your conclusion... The reason WHY most characters is the show are more inclined to forgive or give Stefan the benefit is the doubt IT'S BECAUSE they know for a fact that this isn't "normal" Stefan... They know who he is, how he behaves and it is much easier to come to the realization that there is something else making him behave this way rather than this just being "his character" or "This is what he does"... Characters and viewers are more forgiving of Stefan because there is a real clear line between who he is normally, his morals and standards; and what he does under different types of duress (being compelled by Klaus, No emotions, Ripper blood lust, etc. all of the things over which Stefan has no control of)... Also it isn't out of left field to point out that Elena forgives pretty much everybody, we can go back and forth between all of the times that she forgives or outright overlooks other character's actions, that's just her character. The point is that it is much easier, or much more understandable for Elena to forgive Stefan's actions when she knows that, first: This all happened because he wanted to save Damon and save her; second: even if what he did was awful, like Damon said, it did have a purpose and it accomplished it; and third (and the biggest one): Stefan IS NOT HIMSELF and it is very noticeable, only a few negative emotions, rage, vengeance, nothing more... Therefor it is far more plausible for her to forgive that over the dozens of times she has forgive characters that do bad things "just because that's who they are" or for far weaker reasons like getting their feelings hurt or not getting their way; or far worse reasons like actually enjoying the suffering they inflict or not caring about the chaos they cause.
Elijah is back yay! Elena was great as always, Damon was funny as usual. Stefan is waking up finally, and HOLY FRIK Bonnie's mom is so damn annoying Idk why. Left her daughter to non-adopt some dude... whaaat?
FUN FACTS: The actress Persia White who is playing Bonnie's Abby Bennett is also married to Joseph Morgan AKA Klaus in real life. They actually met on the series or before then.
It wasn't just the tomb that killed Grams. Emily was the most powerful witch in the Bennet line and she couldn't seal the tomb on her own. Emily had to harness the power of a comet to augment her power to seal the tomb. Grams took all that on herself and that's what killed her. Klaus is not a new wolf. He became a wolf right after he turned into a vampire due to his first kill. That's how they knew he was not Mikael's kid and that's what trigger the war between the species. His mother put a curse on him during his first transition and locked away that side of him. The 2nd time he turned was when he broke the curse and Bonny weakened him
So Paul(stefan) is with Joseph's (Klaus) wife and Ian's (damon) then GF Nina (elena) and Ian was with Paul's then wife (Dr. Fell). Lol that is messy 😂😂
Made sense to me! It's a small world. I kept waiting for a scene with Joseph (Klaus) and Persia (Abby) interacting but I don't remember it ever happening.
@@nikkis7375 Lol 😂😂 I was just pointing out it's a small world and how will it feel to act in front of your partner. Just as romantic scenes between Dr. Fell and Alaric 😂😂 Paul, Alaric and Torrey would be uncomfortable (as per considering human behaviour and emotions) filming that but yet it happened and here we are.
She acts so high and mighty and always says she is better than Katherine. When in reality she is worse than her. Atleast Katherine only compelled stegan to forget she was a vampire and both brothers were ok sharing Katherine. She made both of them happy. This,what elena is doing playing with their feelings is too much. I mean if she wants both of them just sit them down and tell them. So they can both share her 😂
@memo i mean the salvatores are the ones who involved her into this whole mess. if not for stefan to wanting to meet her and get involved with her, she would've just been a regular high schooler. the thing is everyone complains about elena but once the actress left the show, everything went south. maybe the writers should've putting less focus on elena in earlier seasons but they always wrote the plot around her so when she left it's like they were kinda lost. i understand why people dislike her but i personally lost interest in the show once she wasn't part of it.
@@sathyanarayanay.h.9630 the brothers were not okay with sharing katherine, they always had issues with one another because of it, they were jealous when she spent time with the other brother. katherine is a more compelling character than elena but she's not "better" than her. she's manipulative and a villain for a good part of the show. she does a lot of terrible things to protect herself but she also does a lot of terrible things just because she feels like it.
I find Stefan frustrating this episode. He was the one that told Damon that it's his job to protect Elena, now he's the one putting her in danger, implying that he wouldn't mind kidnapping her again. He's revenge towards Klaus has impaired who he is, he continues to emotionally hurt those he cares about when it's Klaus who did this to him.
Lol i dont think u understand the story here. Stefan's emotions r not fully back. He is channeling all his emotions on revenge over Klaus, so that means he doesn't care about anyone or how they feel about him. The first time his emotions came back when Michael tried to kill damon and this time was Elena telling him that she kissed Damon. His emotions i think now is fully back after her saying that, but he is not allowing it to still fully take over him bcoz as he said it will devour him and he will not be able to get back bcoz he had killed so many people.
Stefan doesn’t have his emotions, and klaus is the reason for that and he ruined his life so all he can think about is revenge but he realises all this when his emotions return
@Macmel oh I get what your saying, I do agree with him being frustrating I just don’t think you can blame him for what he’s done when others have done worse for less, I just feel like he gets hated on for nothing imo
@Macmel if Stefan did all these horrible acts when he was in his right mind,emotions on, and not being forced then I would hold him accountable but he never is. And with klaus Stefan couldn’t control the blood like others so again he’s not in his right mind but other vamps even when they are will kill somebody and everyone ignores it cause they do it so often. And him being ripper wasn’t his fault I’m pretty sure it’s like a condition for some vamps.point is he’s never in his right mind when he does that
Makes sense on what Kyle said about Stefan saying Elena’s better than Damon and both of them, he’s saying it and it’s true but also he’s only saying it when she’s thinking on being with Damon. He’s actually quite manipulative as a character if you notice lol in a sense he guilts a lot of people and judges quite a bit
When Kevin Williamson (main writer of TVD) was still part of TVD it was absolutely wonderful show with fucking hard storylines and developments after he left IT went downhill and never came back 😒😒. Just an Opinion folks 😁
I think you guys doesn't under the klaus hybrid stuff....even though the curse lifted by the rituals after thousand year...he was still the hybrid..only difference is before ritual he can turn to wolf only in fullmoon just like normal werewolf..he was stll control by fullmoon..now can turn willingly...and doesn't control by moon...his hybrid can do the same but stll klaus is stronger than them because he has turn every fullmoon for thousand year...normal warewolf will die when age comes...but because he is vampire...he has to go through the pain for thousand year..he knows the pain more than anyone..even though tylor turn hundred times and broke the shire bond...klaus will still be unbeatable..plus he can compele the other hybrids...
If I’m being honest Stefan had no right to punch Damon bc Elena and Stefan were broken up 🤷♀️ love the reaction can’t wait for the the next one specifically the ending episodes to this season there really good.
@@cadencekemp1183 yes he did. stefan does no wrong. he makes no mistake. if he felt he had to slap his brother, he had every right to. i would’ve slapped damon for him!!🤗🤗
