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In my recollection she picked him out with intent to kill him but she was interrupted in the middle by the friends. She wasn't trying to "save" him with the affliction, she was justifying the killings for herself by taking out people who were going to die anyway. Perhaps I was mistaken but that's the way I took it when I watched it.
My mom actually survived two brain aneurysms bursting. The doctors were astounded by her luck, they said she had a good chance of dying and if she survived she wouldn’t be able to walk or speak but that wasn’t the case. She had no permanent damage at all and is perfectly healthy now. She was extremely lucky Edit: Thank you all for your love, i’ve shown my mom all your comments and she found them absolutely sweet and hilarious :)
My dad had a brain aneurysm 17 years ago, it hasn't burst yet but I think it was about to when they found it. They were able to put a stint (stent?) and coils to keep it from killing him. But while they were doing that they got to watch a blood clot break lose and started pumping him full of medication before he started having the stroke. Quite a few of the staff had said they'd never had seen a stroke happen on inside in real time so it was a nice learning experience for all.
Gotta say, the peeling of the cornea is a very new take on the transformation for me. Its unique, slightly disgusting, and a very cool idea. I love it.
Hey, Maurice was a familiar not a vampire. She didn't turn him. She was just using him as a reliable source of blood and he was cool with it in the hopes that he would eventually be turned into a full vampire.
Affliction is maybe the only vampire movie out there that actually makes this curse FEEL like an actual curse and not something that turns you into "superman that drinks blood."
I think there's a different angle to Maurice and why he was taken down by Derrick so easily. From what I understood in the movie, Derrick wasn't supposed to come back as a vampire but the OG vampire woman had been attempting to turn Maurice as payment for him getting rid of her victims bodies. Maurice was so pissed because his body wasn't accepting the virus, and he didn't understand why she would give the gift of vampirism to some rando who hadn't done anything for her. I believe he was still very much human at the time he finds Derrick in his apartment, and he was terrified of Derrick because he maybe hadn't seen the vampire girl in her feral state previously. Edit: Also, you have some audio overlap at right around 17:14
I really enjoyed the premise of "your body wont LET you die" as a concept adding to the horror of it all. I do despise how.... even with video evidence and multiple reports of hey we literally shot him multiple times... just... eh i dont know like such hyper skepticism to a fault
@@jmhaugen4757 Yes, exactly. In some fictional media, it's Cain's punishment for throwing away God's love and turning his back on God's light, making him the first Vampire.
He could kill himself but it take a lot more then a shotgun or the GiGN in theory you could probably cut off his head and put it in a box lol so he wouldn’t put it back on assuming he can’t regenerate that or put him in concrete so he couldn’t hurt anyone or escape but at the cost him still living but I don’t think any of that would work because it is supposed to be a punishment becoming a vampire
i feel like he might be avoiding it due to how little the show tells us about the creatures, we hear vampires logic applied, but vampires never had worms be the source of the infection as far i know, so it'd be more like a parasite infection that kills the host and overrides the behavior based of what the shared consciousness wants done, shared consciousness is more sci-fi so it'd be hard to make a long video with known info, etc.
@@gamersixvideos4239 he does videos on straight up supernatural creatures that have no explanation at all, so I don’t think any of that is holding him back
@@gamersixvideos4239 but at the same time he's done videos on creatures we know even less about, example. That fish creature he talked about had very little information and most of his video on that creature was just speculation. Idk I just feel like the parasite worm would be right up his ally. I'm gonna comment till he does it
There are flatworms that seem to retain memories even after regrowing their head. It could be possible that Derek has a back up for memory. Or he could have a distributed nervous system like an octopus. Basically his entire body could be the ‘brain’ in a way.
one of the closet ways ive see a biological way of maintaing life without the brain was the necroa virus it had a evolved trait to reurpose tissue in the lungs and spread new neurons there to effectivly act as a new but much less powerfull or efficent brain.
dude I almost lost it at 17:13. I thought I was going nuts with multiple voices in my head but it was your voice speaking at the same time. 10/10 Highly recommended.
@@tinfoil778 I guess he fixed it somehow. It was like 2 sets of audio was stacked on each other so you hear 2 of his voice talking at the same time. can't check what time stamp the second voice line was on cause it sounds normal now
I'm one of those people that have unusually dense bones. And it made things kind of hard that time i had to have *_neurosurgery to remove a brain tumor_* and the blade on the bone saw kept wearing out.
@@senju31 Yes. It was something my neurosurgeon told my family while I was in recovery. They had to change out the blade twice and then the saw started to malfunction. The doctor said it was the craziest thing he had every saw. Side note: the surgery went fine once they could get into my brain to extract the tumor. Some peripheral vision loss, but better than expected.
@@dogofwar6769 I'm happy to hear they were able to remove the tumor. Your experience reminds of me of that episode in Luke Cage where they had to disable his superpowers of super durability in order to do surgery on him because he got a serious injury and had internal bleeding if I remember correctly.
19:19 My friend and I actually have the bone mutation Roanoke is talking about here. I've never broken a bone even though I've done things that by all accounts should have broken multiple bones, which definitely didn't feel great. I've also almost drowned multiple times because I have almost no buoyancy, which makes swimming difficult which sucks because I love swimming and water but the feeling is not mutual lol.
i have it as well. i have to use a wetsuit to have any kind of decent buoyancy for swimming. i have been put through the wringer due to situations and just got an all the way through bruise instead of fractures. bruise goes away in a few days and a hairline fracture hurts and affects things longer than that.
Y'know, that seems like a plausible reason for the stereotypical thing of vampires not liking running water (crossing rivers) or something along those lines.
Heck, I ruptured a large blood vessel in my lung when I broke 2 ribs. Enough blood came out of me that I turned from a good bronze to pale ash gray. Doctors said I shouldn't have survived, but instead I not only stayed standing but I kept up intensive physical exertion carrying a few hundred pounds while running.
I absolutely loved this movie. I actually jumped into it without seeing any trailers or reading a blurb/synopsis, so coming to realize that it was a vampire movie as I watched it made it more fascinating
You know the whole vampires can’t cross running water thing. Well that makes a lot of sense if the body is so dense because they’d just sink like rocks. My vampires also regenerate using stem cells rather than metabolic additives.
@@Luna.Tenebra Yep it is one of the really old weaknesses of vampires that people mostly forgot about. If vampires are so dense then it does make sense that they would have trouble swimming.
@@theeguy9022 Well in this case they more or less sink due to their density, and the running aspect isn't really important they just drown in any sufficiently deep body of water they can't get out of.
I totally love how you break all these down and make them plausible via your in-depth education. At the end of the video, you said you love our input that could add to your perspective. I am paraphrasing and adding inference. When a supernatural being that's a super-regenerator, if science is to be applied, I picture it as the micro-biome taking over via a far more structured way where a viral and prion infection alters it to be akin to each cell being superiorly evolved like the amoeba. Each one being like a tiny electrochemical charged computer on a network of trillions, with the information control of each cell being akin to a super-computer. That would not only explain the super-fast healing, but the bioforming and the unusual weaknesses too (the cost of the alterations). That would also make it so nothing is lost, including memories, if the body has the resources to rebuild and reanimate.
@@RoanokeGaming hey saw a video of lex Friedman recently. His guest was talking about the regeneration of tapeworms ( possibly a specific one) and apparently if you say cut one in half booth pieces will regrow the missing half. BUT! The one that regrows a head also will retain memories from the original. Also you can trick it into say growing two heads. Then each one that made from that one after will also grow two heads. So yes it’s possible to regrow a brain and retain memory
Hi. Great content. Keep it up. I’m a new subscriber, I like how you explain the movie and then you actually explain the infection/semi magic shenanigans.
7:37 It IS rather refreshing to see someone, instead of dancing around the subject and coming up with a random name for something, just call it what it is.
You know the VHS movie *also* had an Azazel Deamonic baby that literally raised or resurrected all the undone cult members as hyperactive zombies just to get to his father that movies ending was hilarious !
Considering how specialized the virus is. It might have cells specially made for storing all needed information in the brain as head injuries would be pretty common given the amount of jumping and climbing the vampire does along with the fact that some victims not disabled before feeding would likely strike at the head. Which while the skull is thicker, i doubt it has developed a way to cushion the brain
My family has double bone density, I'm 6 foot and over 200 pounds but have more of an ectomorphic body shape. My brother had his density tested and it came in as double density, I later found out I did too after I was in a major crash on my Motorcycle, was thrown off the bike and smashed against the concrete, I was too poor at the time to buy proper gear so no bike armour on at the time, and luckily I only fractured my collarbone. So on the one hand, difficult to break bones, on the negatives, I just cannot swim, at all. No matter how hard i try, straight to the bottom of the pool.
I know this probably doesn't have a lot to do with the science of it, but I love the idea of 2 best friends realistically reacting to how one of them is becoming a vampire as the other is helping them cope with the change.
Nice to have another piece of vampire media with vampires that actually hunt ethically. 19:16 [waves] Hi, how you doin'? Of course, it's just one more thing the BMI doesn't account for. But hey, it kept me from getting any breaks after being hit by cars twice and being in a wreck.
To be fair, with that crazy witchcraft level regeneration, would it really matter all that much if he shattered his arm when punching the rock or broke his legs from jumping? That would have been a cool concept to explore in the movie.
When the subject of keeping the memory of the brain was healed the first thing i thought about was the digestive track and it's sensory cells it could have been overhauled to help store the information from the brain in a more compressed form so that the brain has a sort of blueprints to worth with while recreating itself. I thought about this because i once heard that the gut has enough sensory cells to almost be considered a second brain.
I loved this concept when I first watched the movie. I unfortunately had been unable to find any sign of it existing till now, thought I had dreamed the whole thing. definitely one of the better found footage films
Please cover the Manhattan Virus from *Crysis 2* at some point! I'd love to see you look into the fine details regarding how Team Ceph bioengineering of viruses is similar and different from that of Team Human! The novelization by Peter Watt has a fantastic write-up of the Manhattan Virus and can be found on the Crysis Fandom Wiki!
I believe her "Kindness" didn't mean Turning Him but draining him. As his mates actually busted in before she would have finished "Draining" him therefore leaving him infected and alive
Put me in as another vote for you covering the Strain. They piece meal a lot of medical stuff and while the show's a bit hit or miss at times, the science is awesome. I'd also like to suggest "Helix" and "Solitude".
Litterally just watched this movie yesterday. Perfect timing after i watched the breakdown. She actually intended to kill him quickly, thats why she chose to feed on him.
Just FYI Roanoke, there seems to be a 30 second section after minute 17 of the video where two of your commentary audios are running at the same time, over the bit with the caveman.
Hey Roanoke, I'm wondering if you could take a look at the zombie pathogen from a relatively unknown movie called Dance of the Dead. I think it'd be interesting to cover because it's a pathogen that affects people and animals. Since I think the first undead was a toad that killed the guy that reanimated it. Which is fun.
Hey, have you done a video about the V/H/S movies. There are some of these movies that have very interesting ideas, and although they don't develop them too much, I think there is at least something you could discuss. Specially on V/H/S 94 where there is a doctor that experiments with mixing humans with machinery.
i have two ideas on how a monster creator might go about preserving memories. but there's no evidence for either of them in this movie. 1. The creature develops a secondary brain, possibly a secondary CNS, which the nerve connections are somehow rearranged or rerouted to, a seperate memory center to act as a backup. Good spot is along the vagus nerve, could be used to explain an increase in hunger or consuming unusual things in spite of being full because of the connection bacteria have to the brain via the vagus nerve. This might be similar to the Krogan and their redundant nervous system. A node like that would be small and along the spine. Unfortunately it would be an added energy suck for the body and present a possible target to gunfire. Remember you're taught to shoot center mass, not headshots. But the use for it in an alien might be as insurance against deadly injury that could prevent you from remembering lifesaving skills, like running from predators, making fire, firing a gun, making clothing, remembering the properties of plants ecetera. Memory is important to us because we learn survival skills. Lose that learning and you don't know how to protect yourself. It may not be a common mutation though, or it might be common as dirt because Fermi paradox, we just don't know. However, it is a mutation that wouldn't show outwardly, allowing our guy to maintain a human like physique. 2. A secondary nanite infection piggybacking on the first or the virus causing a doubling of neurons. This would create cybernetics and/or a second set of the same connections. In the case of cybernetics it could send a virtual backup of one's memory to a server and then upload it to a person's mind when their brain is heavily damaged. However, there is no sign of this in the movie and extra neurons in the brain would mean less room in his head possibly causing diminished brain function, he would need a bigger skull. He does not appear to have a bigger skull in the movie so this option is out. Our brains are very finely tuned things. They spent about 2 million years becoming what they are and they've reached an energy efficiency balence that shouldn't be messed with without the science we have being up to the task.
Idk if you read manga and stuff but there's this one called "one day, suddenly in Seoul" is about a virus outbreak, and they describe this virus as some sort of single cell hive mind or something, idk I feel like you would enjoy exploring this type of virus, plus the story is fairly well written
You know, my dad told me about a gene he heard about that can result in bone density being 5 times greater than normal. And I remember reading up on it, and discovering that 5 times is the lowest it can go. My dad thinks he might have it, due to the fact that he never broke a bone in his life. Also, the fact that when he got his hip surgery, none of the bone cutting implements worked, so they had to use a laser.
Makes sense. I'm blk American and it's already been shown we have heavier bone densities. I've never broken a bone, despite having some crazy wild injuries as a kid lol
Imagine if it was common practice for long-lived vampires to avoid insanity by blowing their brains out and returning to baby. Essentially restoring factory settings.
I would love to see you cover The Strain. I’ve happily passed on my love of your videos to my roommates, and they’ve caught the infectious humor and fascinating insight.
It doesn't make sense that proper anti-vampire squads weren't dispatched. There's no way, in a world where vampirism exists, that Interpol doesn't have, if not specialist squads, the necessary contacts.
I wish this movie had more people talking about it it was a fresh new spin on the horror found footage genre that was very different at the time it released
This is a gem that surprisingly few people I’ve met have seen! I’ve got a suggestion Roanoke. You should watch the short film Rakka and analyze the Klum! Pretty cool alien design imo.
i don't really think there's much room there to science the way a rock gives people telekinesis. I think the only thing that needs to be done with Chronicle is they make a sequel, 'cause the black guy(forgot his name) even pointed out that there were several other people who touched it too, so it's just not possible that only those 3 were given powers.
I just want to say I really like your overview of the movie's and then the science stuff a bit above what I understand but you seem crazy smart. Just simply thank you!
What if the disease has some way to memorize the engrams of a human by late stage infection? What if its something that only looks and behaves like a virus at the surface level?
Can you do a video on the blindsight vampires, I know this from a book and not a movie or tv show but it was interesting to see an offshoot of humans that hunted each other and then eventually were driven into extinction to only be brought back to life for deep space exploration.
Brought back for any kind of complicated problem solving, in fact. They consider serving baseline humans to be a problem, too, and humans have been VERY inadequate in their efforts to make that unsolvable for vampires. (If you read the sequel/happening-at-the-same-time-quel, Echopraxia)
Very interesting breakdown. On the variable density issue, sometimes when things are too dense and rigid they can become more fragile. That's why bridges and tall buildings will have a little bit of sway in the wind and girders are shaped like an H. It's like a little bit of give can make something stronger. Like putting carbon in steel or tin in copper. All of that can be highly variable with material and size though, and I'm sure many of the larger dinosaurs had huge bones that were extremely dense lol. On the brain damage scene, considering the bones started pulling themselves back together so quickly with the healing factor maybe the force multiplier mostly moved things around. Like a bit of parietal, occipital and lizard brain got turned into mom's spaghetti on a smoosh vid for a minute and then just morning gloried itself back together.
I'm trying to think of a French joke that doesn't involve either The French putting anything in their mouths or the French revolution Side note: have you thought of doing a biology check if all the vampires in Vampyrs?
when in doubt go with bagettes. i hear once they go stale you can use them in construction work. french cooking at its finest ;D (i know its not much of a hilarious joke but i managed to avoid the 2 subjects you mentioned)
About the only theory mcguffin I could come up with for rebuilding memory is a parasite that keeps a constantly updating blueprint of its host. The virus and its strengthening potential would just be the parasites method of keeping its host capable of providing it nourishment. That could also explain why it isn't consistently passed on with bites.
Vampirism links every cell to one another. Giving one control over their body on a molecular level. Each cell of your body stores all information within itself from each individual cell. That's how memories and other body parts are reformed just as they were.
Is there a possibility that the disease restructures the brain writing memory engrams on itself, or even on the new brain cells? It seems like the brain would have to be recreated and fortified as to avoid seizing in the future.
Ya know, thinking on the fantasy game "Blooded" and "Unblooded" vampires, coupled with Roanoke's reasoning regarding The Affliction's vampirism, suddenly the entire fantasy genre's take on vampires makes more sense. On the onset of infection the body's reinforcement at the behest of the illness takes place, rapidly draining the body's resources and forcing a person to eat numerous other people to keep living. Once a week, for example, to continue the changes. This is why Unblooded vampires tend to be fairly easy to take out, and why Thralls occur. Infected who are weak from changes and don't have enough other humans to heal themselves. Once the changes are completed, though, a Blooded vampire can go much longer without feeding. At that point they have more bone to store resources and their body is more stable, allowing longer life and absolute inhuman feats due to the vampirism's augmentations. It's why older vampires are so much harder to kill, and are more dangerous. They're fully stocked, augmented, and used to their new capabilities. Really, the most dangerous part about being a vampire is the first year (or so) of infection. If you survive that, you become nearly unstoppable.
This movie randomly turned on tv for me and i wasnt paying attention when it came on and so the slow burn and then random vampirism was crazy and really interesting
This is such a cool movie, I gotta check it out! Really great video!! Can you discuss the Vampires in the shows Vwars?? I believe those are disease based as well. I just started the first 2 episodes last night and really kinda enjoying it. Kinda weird seeing Damon Salvatore playing a human after seeing him as a vamp in VDiaries for so long. Love love LOVE your videos!! ❤️🔥❤️🔥
If your bones are significantly harder, like mine(LRP5 mutant here), there actually can be more negative effects than people realize. Later in life, certain bones can no longer be held in place properly, causing severe chronic pain, particularly in the neck, lower joints(knees and ankles)and back. As well as the minor buoyancy issue you mentioned, is not so minor... I sink like a rock, putting me at a significantly higher risk of drowning than others. The most notable annoyance would be that your limbs fall "asleep" much faster than normal, and stay that way longer, making it very important to not be sedentary in lifestyle.
yup have had all those issues myself with high bone density. thankfully since i got on my testosterone replacement therapy the nerve kinking issue has subsided (more skeletal muscle there to support things now). the numbing has eased off greatly everywhere but my wrists. (got carpal tunnel before my super slow puberty could strengthen that area. only got on trt recently in my 30s and trust me its weird to have body stuff catching up suddenly). i however didnt know that is likely the cause of my noodle ankles though. things just slide sideways randomly making me stumble and fall sometimes when walking. upside is i dont sprain my ankles anymore. downside is my skin hates french kissing concrete. as for swimming it sucked, once i reached my adult bone growth i suddenly couldnt maintain flotation. i have to use a wetsuit to generate that flotation to swim at "yay i can survive" levels now. so i would recommend trying one to make things a bit safer in deep water >_
@@Everlucky_Clover at my age I've just given up on going too close to bodies of water, lol, but thanks for the recommendation. I remember when I was first told about my bones, I immediately thought I had a super power... oh how naive I was.
Just watched the video, and thought of two things when you talked about the brain repair memory conundrum. 1) The studies of caterpillars that retain the memories of when they were caterpillars even though they are turned into a liquid while undergoing metamorphosis to become moths and butterflies. 2) Axolotls have been found to be able to regenerate their hearts, and brains.
