The Video Game Crash of 2024... 

Ok

haiii ^^

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We are at the point where there is no need for a "next gen" Becuase developers can't even handel curent gen

True!!!

I guess people buy all of these. If they didn't, this business model would have stopped by now because it wouldn't be profitable

$70 games shouldn’t be a thing at all

AAA w/ love service business models ain’t released yearly but their long stay affects the gaming space with the gradual increase in player base. we still keep on thriving and winning based on gauging the titles nominated in Game Awardees.

Yet people will buy a $40 DLC for Elden Ring because Fromsoft is a good company

Ya capitalist Ganna capital... Cut to get more profits charge more for games to get more profits then make games that nvr end to... Ya guises it get more profits. This year will be the biggest revenues the business has ever seen and one of the weakest years for good games, capitalist Ganna capital;)

How is it dying when people keep preordering and buying? Even an obvious scam like the day before managed to literally top the steam preorder chart

​@@Maximilian1990Yeah sadly theres too many idiots buying new games

Yep, and it starts from the top down. CEO’s and executives have too much input on a games development. Let the gamers, devs, and artists make the games. The execs need to sit in the truck and do what they can to keep good workers and keep them working.

Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.

​@@Jadty wtf are you talking about?

We are gone from the days of gta San Andreas which was 20 years ago

As far as AAA goes, that is a desirable outcome

Could not have said it better myself

That’s a good thing though, finally gamers are voting with their wallets and are buying games that deserve all the success/getting our monies worth.

@@B34RProductions I've always been doing that. The problem is, it's the casual market that is keeping shit like this alive, and that is not going to change.

Yeah that's about when I needed to start taking rejection meds to stay vigilant against the big game companies. Last COD i bought was MW(2019) for christmas at half price, assassins creed was Odyssey (i enjoy the larger AC RPGs, just wish it had more variety), and never one for sports games. I'm a gamer not an athlete damnit lol

Can't they fund big games without paying a ton for it to be good/fun? GTA 6 is a very expensively made game, yet it will be good. You have other great looking games rhat dont cost that much and are fun, but yet we have other expensive triple A games that are still horrid.

@@SquidCena You just contradicted yourself. Firstly, you have NO CLUE what the state of GTA 6 is. You're assuming that since it's taken Rockstar 12 years to release a new game that it'll be good. Second; "yet we have other expensive triple A games that are still horrid"- I think you proved my point here. Third; *Most* games that look good aren't made by AAA devs. Yes they have the potential to release the next big thing, but no incentive is there.

It kind of sounds like we might be hitting a new era of game dev.

​@@SquidCenaGTA VI is going to be a dumpster fire based on the fact their writers shouldn't be employed alone.

BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING UP TO QUADRUPLE A WITH THE GAMING BABY YEEEEEEEEHAW -ubisoft, probably

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Facts. More people are understanding indie games and pirating is the way to go until triple AAA games get their shit together.

i was gonna say helldivers 2 kinda disproves this also games like deep rock survivor etc, people just dont want trash woke games and shit from mega corporations that have no soul in them and are scared to even say shit anymore.

its a recession full stop not just gaming

George Carlin

​@@AliHamza-sv4niFor me it's simple. Just don't play games that needs online connection.

@@AliHamza-sv4nithat soft language bit really has stood the test of time huh? not so much his bits about “corporate republicans,” since almost all the the biggest corporations are run by democrats now, including all these video game companies, (elon musk being the only outlier) but that language bit keeps on kicking 😂

​@@AliHamza-sv4ni "who are you people and where is my horse?"

@@mkv2718do I hear a Jaden Williams skit idea

I commented something similar. Absolutely agree, all of tech thought there was this huge need. There wasn’t, that viral video of the Twitter employee’s “day in a life”, where she just bullshit all day is my favorite

Agreed. I see layoffs every single day on LinkedIn. Cisco recently layed off 4200 employees, and people are so whipped that they'll post how grateful they were to work at companies that throw them away like trash. I also saw a guy posting the other day that he was on the verge of homelessness and he was begging for referrals. We're heading towards a second great depression. The gaming industry will be the least of our concerns.

Time to sell..

Exactly I get so tired of the doom and gloom videos during Covid and before too many companies expanded took funding etc now they realized they all need to scale back. It’s so tiresome to hear gaming is ending from dudes who play literally the same copy and paste garbage every year literally 2023 was one of the best years in gaming we got Zelda, Mario, Hogwarts, Armored Core, Final Fantasy, Starfield, and so much more. But gaming is dying? No the emphasis on COD and NBA is dying cause those franchises are redundant mediocre garbage

@@jamesfort3 yeah gaming Is doing great. Alan wake 2? Bg3? People just don’t want to leave their comfort zone

Yeah,the pre NES generation to me wasn't Atari or Intellivision but C64/ZX Spectrum.Those crappy console versions of Pac Man and Space Invaders couldn't beat the likes of Manic Miner and Dizzy.

Video games existed in 1980s???

​@@Kevin-mx4vmthey even existed in the 60's (although extremely barebones), video games only started gaining in popularity in the 70s though

I wish you the best of luck...

Good luck

Heck yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing what you and your team release. I actually started indie game dev, last year and while its a solo project that's probably going to take a good while for me to make, I'm making of the best of it and learning some new things on this journey is a pretty cool experience, personally.

Good Luck!

@@nsgames24 congratulations! I hope it continues to go well!

LMAOOOO

The portal is actually selling well somehow

@dark_winter8238 H-how?

​@@dark_winter8238that may be because they did not make a lot

@@dark_winter8238homebrew community already got to run a PSP emulator

Man, I used to run BO1 zombies with a dude that was in his 60s.

Why did he die so young?

@@SCHMALLZZZTf2 is 17 years old. He didn’t say the guy died at 60, he said he was in his 60’s playing until he died. Can’t be sure, but it could mean he died anywhere from 60-77 years old

Lol I'm playing pso2ngs right now with a guy in his 60s!

RIP to your grandfather. He was a true one

Truth there !

True fax

If this industry is around in five or 10 years, this industry is eating itself

the cycle being referred to is called : BOOM , BUST and ECHO and happens in all industries of the economy .

I guess most of the lay offs were in administration and other paper jobs. Not much of in the way of creative power..

True. The only AAA game experiences I buy are from Sega, Nintendo, and From Software. Aside from those, I only play indie and retro games.

yeah same. they got fresh and nice ideas.

Especially recently with games like palworld and lethal company it feels like indie games are the only ones worth playing nowadays lol

Me to but that's probably mostly because I've had a shitty pc for 15 years.

​@@toyvaniatake a detour for helldivers, but you should be good, can't wait for the elder ring dlc, and I'm desperate for more armored core.

This is why I'll never understand why there's many folks, out there who focus on visuals and resolution more than anything in a game. It's just one part of the experience. Games can look pretty, but that's never been a selling point to me personally. There have been games that released in the past and present that have up-to-date visuals, but was severely lacking in the gameplay department.

Robocop Rogue City was made on a AA budget and while the character models and facial animations show the budgetary constraints, the actual environments look great. And gameplay was also great and very much in line with Robocop. I think games like that are the future. Still bigger than indie to have greater scale but smaller than AAA to still minimize risk and retain some freedom. A game like Robocop was a huge success for publisher Nacon despite obviously not selling AAA numbers, because it doesn’t need to sell AAA numbers and fill the game with microtransactions or battle passes to turn a tidy profit.

Based Yharnam grandpa.

You had me till u said destiny...

Root beer 🍺

Bloodborne and Elden ring are just too good

Helldivers 2!

*milking machines*

milking machines

Wallet milking machines*

Pumps... 😏

B-b-but won't someone think about the shareholders? They need those extra yachts and private jets, and a modest, reasonable return on investment just won't do. They need to milk consumers for every last penny, won't you have a heart?

I had 3 engineers on my team but we laid them off because we can use AI to do their jobs.

@@JP-pq9xiAs an engineering major, well done that’s just what I wanted to hear

They need a Engineer that accept in been paid in banana or peanuts. They don't wanted to pay a wage where cover all the necessity.

@@lordxeno8270 i wouldn't worry actually. One thing I am just starting to realize is how much new technology we can create. This is going to accelerate progress which will require even more people. Right now, in the short term, it sucks. But I actually think we can focus on solutions to problems far exceeding our current expectations from humanity that you will be more than gainfully employed. Do not think your degree is useless. It is not.

​@@JP-pq9xiNone of the AI I've seen can do the job without an engineer being very hands-on. But at this point, the AI is also out of a job. There are no projects to work on.

He strapped

ABP Always Be Packin'

​@@ManyDogaint he in Canada, thought Lil Fidel was against Canadians owning guns

​@@TimeBomb014Xnah he moved to the states

@@tetrisgonzo37 good for him, hopefully he went to one of the saner states

I also lived through it. It it the console market hard. The Atari 2600 was the market leader, but there were many competitors, and by the time of the crash, the technology of the Atari 2600 was becoming out of date. There was a lot of shovelware, both from AAA studios and indie developers. I remember the $5 bargain bins too. By the time the crash happened, I had shifted to the Atari 800 computer, and I stayed with that for a while until I finally jumped onto MS-DOS. I left console gaming after the Atari 2600 and have never returned to it. At the time, the genres I liked (CRPGs, text adventures, and the like) were primarily PC games, while the consoles got more of the arcade-style games that are not compatible with my poor reflexes. Aside from the colossal flop of E.T. and the bargain bins full of obscure games, I didn't initially notice the crash, but in the intervening years, there was a wave of mergers and bankruptcies which affected the entire market, not just the console market. The video game market on the 8-bit computers was a niche, but it remained viable through the 1980s. Atari was hurt, of course, by the collapse of the console market, but Commodore and Apple weren't players in the console market, and they came through the crash in better shape. However, the video game market on the 8-bit computers was stunted by piracy, which was rampant back then (and I'm sad to say that I was part of that problem).

Too much stagnation combined with an over-abundance of low-effort games. Sounds a lot like today's mobile inspired market.

People comparing the crash in that year when there were a handful of companies making games to nowdays where indie games are flowing and even big games are still hitting like bg3 is just silly and out of touch. There is going to be a crash though, but it's gonna be the entire american economy itself at this rate.

The crash of the 80s happened because Atari was doing great so they just allowed absolute garbage to keep pouring out because they thought their fans were loyal and they had the market cornered. Little did they know, people wouldn’t take it and just stopped buying games because it wasn’t worth the money for the garbage they were spewing forth. Completely different than today where the game companies are doing the same thing they were back in the 80s with the added stick in the eye of monetization, but gamers these days just keep consuming it. Worse yet, they blame the company and not themselves. You know how to tell it’s your fault and not the company’s? BECAUSE WE’VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS ONCE! We crashed gaming in the 80s because companies just stopped caring. What did we get? A gaming explosion for the next two decades where gaming was actually innovative and awesome. Now we just blame the companies while handing them fists fulls of money. There’s no crash coming. Gamers are too busy blaming everything else while making it worse. I hate to say it, but gamers are far too unintelligent to crash gaming again. Which is also blamed on the companies because they use psychology now. It’s still no excuse and nothing will get better unless people wisen up and stop funding the ruination of their own hobbies. Review bombing doesn’t do anything to stem the tide when you’re still giving them enough money to profit. Gamers are completely oblivious to how it works. Complaining without action is akin to doing nothing at all. As the saying goes “All bark and no bite.”

Same here. 2600 and 5200's for 20 to 50 bucks

What the shareholders should want is good games since it would increase profit margins as long it’s advertised well

​@@staringcorgi6475the problem is that share prices react disproportionately to short term factors, and of course there is also a quarterly and annual reporting cycle that increases the pressure to show returns.

It's how things work in any publicly traded company unfortunately. Bad revenue means shareholder pressure; the easiest way to lower said pressure is to increase the revenue share by slashing costs. And the easiest way to slash costs is to fire people.

​​@@staringcorgi6475the problem is, shareholders only pursue short term profits. The moment the devs stop growing, some will panic sell and the rest will follow them (like the good sheep they are) and then the devs will be ruined.

Stop buying AAA games. It might suck to not buy the new COD or Assassins Creed or FIFA. Boycott them and only give your money to indie titles. Side rant: I still love Nintendo. They could probably put out whatever slop they want and I would still begrudgingly buy it. I literally have both Scarlet AND Violet and they're both just as broken as launch day. The last Call of Duty I have bought was modern warfare 2019. Kinda disappointed in that purchase but I had fun playing with friends. About the only reason I got it that year. Assassin's Creed was Odyssey. I personally like the large, open world Assassin's Creed games. Just wish there was more variety and purpose behind it. Valhalla took it too far. Never been a big sports person and they usually drop from (now a RIDICULOUS $70) at launch, to being worth $5 a year later. Become a smarter consumer. Now I'm not saying skip a AAA title you're genuinely excited for, like a new FromSoft game or Pokemon or FF remaster/remake or whatever. Just stop supporting the machine. Earn the microtransactions yourself. Challenge yourself to do so. And if it's so ridiculously long to earn it, well there's something fishy up with that. Microtransactions are probably the worst part of the industry hand in hand with loot boxes.

sun setting has been a common term in the gaming industry for a long time.

Well you're other options would be to buy out the sunsetted ips, or to cry about it online

​@@Maximilian1990"Well your only other options would be to buy out the sun setted IP's or cry about it online" ☝️🤓

Cmon big guy, suns getting real low

I truly hope so. There are better games made by individuals or small to medium teams than those made by big corporations.

GTA 6!!!!!

It's probably going to go through a route similar to mobile games, where most of the casual market is gonna be flooded with garbage, with some inner circles of gaming connoisseurs sharing around the few good games that come out

Then they'll become the megacorps and in another 40 years rot for nee independent studios to repeat the cycle.

It started with indies and they are damn well gonna be there till the very end.

Exactly what I was thinking!

there ever is a few great games, helldivers 2 is great, so what is the next great game

Even more than full price, these Corpos are always trying to move the price higher to see if they can get away with it. 70$ for Skull and Bones is laughable.

I also hate that 40+ games having no demo is becoming the norm. I gotta trust other people to know if im gonna like the game cuz AAA companies cant make demos.

Not only that.. but many people can’t afford it anymore.. they’re poorer. Inflation, taxes keep increasing.. = luxury spending will decrease

Exactly lol I don’t think it’s a huge “crash” necessarily

Don't worry, you can just go with the Asmon area and say it's the downfall of woke game companies. When they literally seem to think a game with a girl who doesn't have huge tits is woke. The point people don't care about rational and logical reasoning, the internet has fostered in the age of ragebait and everything is always the nuclear option instead of just the natural course. People are talking about video game collapse, right? Forgetting just HOW GOOD gaming was last year and the genuinely AMAZING titles we saw?

To be completely fair, it's coincided with a GIANT surge of games that are failures critically and financially.

​@@nerdjournal I watch asmon and he has never complained about any weird anti woke stuff, he covers the stories of ppl freaking out but rarely is on there side or says they are aloud to think that even if you disagree

@@nerdjournalthis. Gaming is fine rn. Some stinkers got released, but it’s not like indie games don’t exist. Plenty of shit to play if you look around or leave your comfort zone

Yeah. Honestly a lot of the problems with companies come from shareholders and the higher-up's greed, eventually. Shareholders force the company to constantly grow, which is just not sustainable. And the greed makes it even worse. Even this situation is because of that, the AAA studios constantly pump out complete garbage as fast as possible for as much money as possible, which obviously is going to make people go to indie studios instead. I just wish that could happen with a lot of other stuff.

Or they could drop it a bit and rake in a lot more cash by boosting sales

It's incredibly optimistic. Especially considering how expensive it is to get the equipment and permissions to use the AI.

None of those games you just named are going to be fun beyond a handful of hours, so yeah they still are necessary

Hollow Knight stops having charm when you have to basically force yourself into eating a trash map design and when everything looks the same. Terraria I got 300 hours on, but it's 300 hours with friends. Phasmophobia and Lethal Company died like 3 months after launch. There are good AA and AAA games out there, like Gungrave G.O.R.E. and Doom Eternal.

​@@vicc6790People have sunk thousands of hours into them, how much is a handful?

@@kizururaLethal Company's 24 hour peak on steam is only 73000 players, and Phasmophobia's is a mere 24000 players. Dead indeed.

​@@vicc6790on the contrary, indie games find themselves more replayable than most AAA. there are people out there with thousands of hours in terraria

joe rogans right video games are a waste of time

@@TheSoCalledZoner1 depends, sitting down watching Soccer/Football/NBA or any other sport is also a waste of time, watching a movie is a waste of time, same applies to tv shows too. Yet people call in sick or take days off to watch superbowl etc. If we follow your logic, everything is a waste of time.

But corpos haven't changed their practice nor will they, they just laid off the covid bloat to appease shareholders (another typical corpo move).

Ultrakill moment

@@TheSoCalledZoner1 time enjoyed is not time wasted

That’s the most overlooked fact in human history. At least 80% of all the horrible things that happen in this world is because greedy powerful people ruin something for everybody else.

End times baby, only getting worse and worse everyday

No 😂😂😂 They lost trust of a tiny af portion . Diablo Immortal during it's negative hype hit 30 million players before asia server opened which is currently 60% of its players and revenue, so clearly 50-70 million jumped on board and game is doing well even with all the bad press . People like Muta and these comments only represent 5% of gamers at best . Casuals enjoy the games and keep buying them at increased rates year over year . Your post is nonsense as even if you got everyone who thinks that way to boycott or complain there are far far far more people happily plugging away on games . This is the reality and people need to grow up and accept it because it's not changing anytime in next decade or so .

​@DarkepyonX let's break that down. Yes, this is a smaller margin of thinking when it comes to video games. Yet, truly bad products like Cyberpunk 2077, Anthem, and similar caught legit negative heat from them being bad. When you mention Diablo immortal, people have been hungry for a continuation and were going to purchase it. I personally didn't think it was bad dispute what was put out. Referring to your boycotting response, that's what's called growing up. Knowing which purchases are worth your money and investment of time. Casual players are the same people who rush out to buy a console to only sell it a few months later. If they or whoever want to do that, by all means. So I fail to see how that's not the reality of it all when more than ever people are faced with a choice. Either to Ignore any risk and mindlessly buying or don't and vet/accept that risk on a smaller scale.

@@Faithfulhound Yep! It's people who decide to dive headfirst without thinking, who end up stuck with their head in a hole they can't get out of. If they waited and thought about it, they could have walked around it.

Yeah with how prevalent indie devlopment is even if these massive companies give up on gaming there will still be an industry

I'm quietly rooting for it. It will force companies to rethink how they're monetizing games with a free-to-play model at a $60 price tag. I went back to runescape, because it's a flat fee every month. Even at $12/mo it gets me way more entertainment than these $60 games I play for a week, or continue being prodded to spend money every time i play.

i think Indie will start to become more prevalent, AA studios are already on board

lmao well atleast you are honest because that is not correct at all, you kidding me? look at the US economy, in the near 2050, a new superpower will emerge @hoovysimulator2518

@@rjohnm666 it will definetly destroy Mobile game part of the industry if China will keep restricting its shit, but still, with the age of the internet, and with anyone with a double digit IQ and internet access can make a game, its not really possible to take down this industry, people would have to literally stop playing videogames for a 1983 style crash to happen right now, and we both know that ain't happening.

Final Fantasy 16 its great example. It should be linear movie like experience.

The reason? In PS2, gaming industry start to show more promising revenue and profit, so every greed investors start to search and injecting money, then this start become more and more common and investors want one thing: Earn more money. So to make this more "sustainable" start to move to more DLCs, Microtransaction, Physiological Behavior, this become more clear when Iphone start to become a thing and Mobile Games start to show a big new market open. In resume, Money, that it's happen. Before that, create a game was a really difficult to convince someone to inject some money in a absolute risky thing.

While I completely agree, i say all the time “aint nobody got time to play all that,” i have to point out some of the examples you used are quite large experiences. MGS series games are long even on the ps2, and mass effect is 20 hours at it’s shortest while skipping virtually half its content. I really want to go back to the days when arkham city felt HUGE. When games were DENSE and had a bunch of quality content in them. I think it’s important to give good examples of what we want to see instead of just listing the good games from the past. 05-09 was the greatest run in gaming history

@@Adam-wt5id Personally i am getting burned out if game has more than 35 hours. I rather take short condensed experience than for example another AC Valhalla.

I like long games, but I do agree. Wild Arms and Gensou Suikoden II could be beaten in under 50 hours with the latter being beatable in under 40 hours and it is one of my favourite stories.

Layoffs causing stock to go up is such counterintuitive thing for me. Yes the operational costs will drop... so will productivity. Imagine if a car company were to fire ALL of the staff responsible for making new cars. If it's indeed how you say it is the stock would go up... for a year, and then as company can only make and sell old models the sales start to drop.

Well said on the backlog. Ditto.

Inflation is down and costs are going down , remaining high prices are corporate greed now .

months? you think it'll take months? try years, if even

It will take over a decade for that

My backlog will last me years.

You nailed it

-Bethesda probably.

That's not it. These companies have too many employees that don't need to be there.

Capitalism baby

​@@kevinhixson1586Bethesda, training AI that thinks clipping is mandatory.

Don’t forget DEI and other dumb shit like that ruining companies.

Exactly, dont know why everybody is looking at the game industry at this recession i mean heck there are tech layoffs in non game dev jobs as well.

I'm an animation student. I've seen Disney and Warner laying off a lot of people too, which means I'll struggle a lot more to find a job when I graduate

​@@zeejay-junejo from what I can gather from Muta's video, its not the layoffs itself that is the main problem, but that those on the higher positions are raking the money for themselves, and moreso by kicking out the actual people who work. This results into having less passionate people working on the games, which in turn makes the games worse, which allows the execs to make an "excuse" that they aren't doing well, hence they're kicking more people out of the company to "streamline". This is particularly the case with AAA and AAAA companies, though if they'd actually focus on game quality, they wouldn't have this problem; layoffs would've been quite unneeded.

discord is laying off people too

But the government says everything is peachy-keen.

Haha

i agree, but the people who buy them are usually casual players. There’s nothing wrong with being a casual player, but they usually arent interested in the state of the industry.

So real, my elder brother and I had to stop buying NBA 2k a couple years ago because we realized that we were allowing ourselves to be robbed year after year.

especially from 2k, who say f u to pc and wont give pc next gen features

I only buy mlb which is the most consumer friendly of the sports games

Ok lets cut the bs. I love larian and I love baldurs gate but larian was NOTORIOUS for being a bad video game company to work for because they constantly laid people off due to never being profitable until the success divinity.

@@gregorysheridan2015now that they're making a shit ton of money that shouldn't be a problem right? Larian doesn't seem like the type to lay off people if they're doing good financially, but you never know

@@koli4213 yeaaaaaaah.... I dont know if you were born yesterday but everyone has said the same thing about every other successful game company barring like... from software and even they shit the bed with dark souls 1 remastered. Everyone thought blizzard, bethesda, cd projekt red and plenty other companies could do no wrong at one point.

​@@gregorysheridan2015 at least Fromsoftware is still releasing good games

@@gregorysheridan2015 we'll see. Im not putting much hope on any developers but there's no doubt that Larian have potential, we just gotta wait and see

They need dedicated workers who love the projects they're working on - something those companies lost along the way in sight of goals and milestones.

@@davethescrub858unfortunately, the leadership will incorrectly assume the wrong thing about indies and small teams and will again shot themselves in the foot.

The lesson learned: you can make games with small teams. The lesson they will refuse to hear: The CEO cannot stand behind the engineers and ask "are we there yet?" Nor can he insist on a billion extra microtransaction revenue streams to find his personal $375 million severance package. Bobby Kotic and similar suits add negative value when the cost to pay them is enough to develop palworld 50 times over but you better bet the suits aren't gonna learn that.

They don't, and these big companies have the resources to make great games. The difference is they lack any creative sense whatsoever, and push aside innovation in favor of cookie-cutter crap. They've done it for so long, they've become incapable of doing anything else, creatively. The small companies are winning the market because they do what it takes to make a great product; they HAVE to, because if they fail, they probably go out of business. They are the new Nintendo when NES was new: They have to prove the quality of their games, and if the games aren't good, they can't fund the next one. That's how it should be, but these big corporate gaming companies have the funds to keep shoveling out garbage, and the brand names to get people to buy on name alone.

​@@Semmarv case in point: Arrowhead CEO's response to some random being annoyed with the servers "Would it be better if I stood behind the backs of the devs asking them "Are we there yet?", or should I let the professionals do their goddamn jobs in peace?"

Ready to take on the ops. 🔫😎

i wonder if he's been taking his schizo meds

I see a mouse

Muda is ready to cancel life subscriptions while he's surfing the dark web... 💀

Airsoft

Always hated this being propagated as a global thing. Even in the UK where I went to college for game design, they tried to teach that the NES saved everything, yet my parents were happy playing ZX Spectrum games and game development was flourishing during the supposed global crash.

@@TheStolenBattenberg well that's because the Euro market was bigger on computers for gaming than consoles in the 80s, the NES saved the console market because the console market was an American thing.

@@gormless-idiot I think that’s part of what the parent comment and my own were saying. A problem with this topic is that rarely will anyone ever make a distinction between computer and console gaming though, sure.

I feel like the reason Japan gets thrown in arbitrarily is due to the real estate crisis that would start not only three years later.

I don’t think so bc the majority of the game dev have no experience in business or don’t have the cash to start an indie dev studio

@@staringcorgi6475 indieslop will be norm my bros.

Indie studios still require money. You can't just say "lol let's all go indie".

where does the venture capital come from? how do i get paid if i work indie? also; if you think that being laid off or just working in a generally toxic AAA industry would push devs and artists to indie.. that's a naive assumption; you dont even want to know how many talented people were bullied out of the industry. why work in a sector that doesnt value you anywhere, squeezes all your energy during crunch cycles without OT compensation.. give a good reason to keep working in that sector.

And the fact that 99% of indies are complete trash, I wonder why nobody talks about something like "sex and the furry titty"

Did you even watch the video? He literally said that the "crash" is a result of a post-pandemic cooldown and he also said that the number of "casual" gamers who are buying identical triple A junk will likely keep rising. Not to mention the fact that AI is about to run rampant through the entire gaming industry. Which part of that made you optimistic

you didn’t watch the full vid 🤦‍♀️ 🤦‍♂️

whilst i get your point, thank god people with your perspective aren't in charge of all office facilities. There is such a thing as culture, and there are ways of promoting good culture through investment in environment etc. Clearly that can be overdone, but the idea that all employees care about is salary and their hours really isn't supported by research.

Reminds me of Sony building super cutting edge offices for their support studios a few years back just to announce 900 layoffs this year 💀

@@chimpana"Shame on you for knowing what you want! I'll tell YOU what you want!" But seriously, you're wrong. I worked for a company that has 15 offices globally, a customer service call center that handled inbound and outbound for a rather large, well-known bank for one of their credit cards, I worked as a Fraud supervisor for about a year. This company spent heaps of money on catered meals, paint jobs to each of the office spaces, and lots of "special activity fun-days" around the office. All of this money and effort was spent to promote a company culture that is literally a lie. 90% of our workforce cared nothing about these activities, most people didn't participate. Most days, most of the employees I worked with walked through the building like zombies, hardly talking to or engaging with one another at all, due to the rules and regulations of the place. Saying the wrong thing once could you get disciplined or fired, and they have a lot of "woke" policies. You could see it daily on the faces of the whole staff, it didnt' matter how much money is spent on promoting a "culture", at the end of the day, people just want to make more money and spent more time with our families. These "company culture" building efforts don't work because we're all just people here to make money, being forced to work with strangers. The last place we want to be is work, and the time we ARE forced to be there, we'd like to maximize the amount we take home, not have it being redistributed to make the office "fun" for the bored management who don't want to be there either.

@@theslx7911 dude I've worked across numerous sectors and sizes of orgs for a good while now. Whilst I understand not everyone cares as much as others, there are plenty that do. Honestly the idea that all work is about is money is so outdated that I don't know what to say to you... plenty of people at a certain level will choose purpose and culture over money every time. I genuinely hope you get to work for a decent employer in a decent environment, as it sounds like where you were sucked.

@@theslx7911 for some reason my reply got lost. Long story short, the irony here is really that you are trying to say that all anyone cares about is cash and hours, and I'm saying whilst that's true for some, it's far from true for many. I've worked across a variety of different businesses, of different scales, sectors etc. and trust me I'll take a sense of purpose and good culture over short hours and pure cash every time (and have done in my career).

@embermist3910 we the consumers have felt the impacts already bc companies are planning for it thus raised prices across the board but the recession hasn't hit companies yet. theyre having record profit years while the consumers take the brunt of the recessions consequences.

@embermist3910 i figured bruv, most of us (including myself) are in the same boat, even people who work and pay bills usually only really only get that aspect of it. one of the ways corporate greed has grown as much as it has is bc consumers only see price go up and hear what theyre being told. were told theres inflation so we don't bat an eye when prices go up even if those prices aren't raising due to inflation, but due to corporate greed

@@ViceHacks to add to your informative comment, it is suspected that 40% of inflation around the world can be attributed to corporate greed.

i was wondering if anyone else noticed that lol, i just bought a couple glocks last week and i saw that by the game cases and im lke s that a real glock or airsoft? i know hes in canada but im pretty sure he said he has real firearms

LMAO i legit thought there wouldn't be a comment about this.

muta's glocky

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In comes Futahar with the big black glock

Whoa whoa whoa We not allowing Bays transformers movies Yes they are basic But still fun

Wait fr?

What in the apples-to-oranges-to-mangoes is this comment

Like in the case of cartridges? Absolutely. Thankfully (if) you're american or have legal access to coming here, we have a fairly robust retro game market. Not so much at places like Gamestop, but at your local game stores and at game conventions. The conventions happen all the time. Also, Pawn shops, Used book stores, thrift stores, yard sales, all have stuff for a steal usually. Or at least inconsistent prices - meaning you'll usually find a couple things for a steal and a few things super overpriced.

@balancedgaming2103 I mean more the production costs. Disks and digital cost companies nothing to produce compared to cartridges. Back in the day, games cost nothing to program and a fortune to manufacture. Now, they cost a fortune to program and nothing or almost nothing to manufacture.

We got X thing before gta 6 🤓🤓🤓🤓

Dump and pump boys

IDGAF

@@chanhjohnnguyen1867 "We got X thing before gta 6 🤓🤓🤓🤓" 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

I'm personally excited for dragons dogma 2 in 10 days.

there was also a huge insider trading scandal at Atari (at the timed owned by Time Warner) which did not help; the 83 crash was also very US focused, as the PC was booming in Europe (especially with the UK and BBC poruing in non-profit grants for game and computing development) and in Japan (thanks to Nintendo/Sega/Taito/Namco/Konami)

That really is just a recipe for disaster. There's too much exclusivity today among consoles and we only really have 3. Imagine having to buy up to 6 fully priced consoles for all the games you want to play, all of which are half-made and are played on a badly constructed platform with cheap hardware, never going to happen if the industry is at least 3 IQ points higher.

It happened when we were leaving thay era, tbh. I remember the PS3/360 having amazimg variety, there were only a handful of IP's already going cookie-cutter but even then MW2, Black Ops 1 & 2 and the likes still obviously had passion from the development team. AAA industry sucks, but you can find that charm and passion with smaller games.

Things like microtransactions in video games started appearing at the tail end of the PS3/360 era into the PS4/Xbone era. Dead Space 3 had microtransactions for the resources in game. Thankfully the game was balanced in a way that you never needed them, but it still rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Portal 2 also had cosmetic microtransactions. Man, it is sad seeing how bad things gotten. I still remember when we complained map packs were greedy for being overpriced DLC, yet that kind of stuff is light years more fair and less bullshit than loot boxes, battle passes or microtransactions. At least I’m buying a product (in this case, a few maps) for a certain price, and it doesn’t turn me into a whale spending thousands of dollars if I want everything. Buy product, give money, everyone’s happy. None of this “games as a service” nonsense.

Literally the exact reasoning for most crashes in history

The bigger they are...

​@hatchetman3662 the harder they fall

Idk that's normally not true for industries who don't get bailed out by Big Government.

Its funny too, “big” games tend to have WAY bigger worlds but barely even the same amount content as games from 10 to 20 years ago

But if they make $10,000,000. I don’t have that much money. That’s a lot They’re a billion dollar company, they cant go broke How much the game cost to make : $10,000,000,000

Was passiert?

​@@Dionysos_____Alters ich weiß nicht :/

I freaking love being alive and playing video games