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The Walking Dead Game: Final Season Episode 4 Review 

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Spoilers, as usual. So don't watch if you haven't finished the season yet. But you probably have since I'm nearly 2 weeks late for this review.

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@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
Don't you love it when you make a video and LOSE subscribers?! In all seriousness, don't subscribe if you have no interest in future videos, that's kind of the point of subbing in the first place.
@dragon707lp2
@dragon707lp2 5 лет назад
I wanted to thank you for your videos. I agree with you. I love the game, the story and Clem, but there were some "story-holes" and thinks like Clem got bitten, in a scene where it didn´t fit well after thinking about it. I am greatful for being able to play it. A great ending for their conditions !
@solidparas1925
@solidparas1925 5 лет назад
i only subscribed to you because of the beta content of s2 and 3 anyway what i want from you is to make more videos about beta and unused content i hope if you are intersted that someday you Will find someday some beta builds
@mateuszpruchnik3370
@mateuszpruchnik3370 5 лет назад
Yey, that means you’ll keep on making videos. I thought you were going to lose you after TFS ends. Great to see we won’t.
@Ozzie_YT
@Ozzie_YT 5 лет назад
True that
@SomeGuy234
@SomeGuy234 5 лет назад
It is normal that that happens, we just have to deal with it.
@rangergeorge6808
@rangergeorge6808 5 лет назад
I personally liked the ending. I think even if they'd had an axe available, Clementine would have focused more on getting AJ to safety than cutting the limb off and basically being unable to go anywhere. Her whole story since season two has been about protecting AJ. It helps that I bought into the fake out death. This season has thrown up a lot of parallels between Clem and Lee, and I would have bought the bittersweet ending that AJ finally has a settled home, but at the cost of Clem's life - it would have been heartbreakingly full circle. But I'm glad they went with the cheesy happy ending for once.
@itsblitz4437
@itsblitz4437 2 года назад
Well said there.
@michealjacksonsinnocent2488
@michealjacksonsinnocent2488 5 лет назад
I would have moved the ranch flashback to the beginning of the episode, than after Clem’s death have a dream of season 2 Clem and Kenny talking about death and what they would do in heaven.
@Redberd36
@Redberd36 5 лет назад
Thematically, this is probably what the team at sky bound considered the best ending for everyone considering budgetary issues they couldn’t account for most likely. The people who wanted to see Clem die got their wishes, no matter how faked it was in the end. And the ones who wanted the good ending had their moment as well. I think it’s well deserved since this series was never about choice in the end. It was about Clementine finally breaking free from the chains of a cynical world of death and turmoil that she faced since season 1. She found peace within the Erickson kids because of their open mindedness and willingness to not change who they are for a world that still clings onto the past traditions. It’s why I like the fact AJ talks about wanting to see a fireman, but he needs to be what he considers a fireman for the sake of living in the new world they find themselves sinking into.
@jaytonius560
@jaytonius560 5 лет назад
Take Us Back was a splendid finale for such a beloved series. The only things I didn't like were Lilly and Tenn's treatment. Instead of redeeming herself by helping Clementine, she just takes off, proving that she's nothing more than a selfish coward. As for Tenn, I feel like he had no purpose other than getting himself (determinately) and others killed and not learning from his mistakes. I saved him in my playthrough and I hope the kids train him to be a better, smarter individual.
@joel.jpgvid
@joel.jpgvid 5 лет назад
It did feel like Telltale was just giving the fans what they wanted with the whole Lilly situation... But, I mean can you blame them? Ever since Season 1, people have been making videos about returning characters and it was getting so annoying. People kept theorising that Lilly was the leader of Wellington in S2, or that Christa was going to return at the ranch and have this big storyline with AJ. Or that Arvo, Bonnie and Mike were gonna turn up and Clem was gonna murder all 3 on sight, it was so weird... It was a nice notion to bring Lilly back, however flawed it was... Great video by the way! Can’t wait to see the full season review!
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
That's true. I think people just wanted definitive answers to what they thought were 'unanswered' storylines. I personally never expected to see Arvo/Bonnie/Mike, but maybe Christa/Lilly since they mentioned a returning character from S1 before release. I feel like if you're going to bring back a character then it's important that you use the history they share with Clementine as part of the narrative otherwise their spot could be filled by someone else (Abel may as well have been the leader of Delta because of how different Lilly was from S1)
@joel.jpgvid
@joel.jpgvid 5 лет назад
Exactly. Also, I had no idea they announced a returning S1 character before release. Kinda ruins the surprise doesn’t it? Plus, I don’t know if Lilly was even the leader of the Delta, I just assumed she was a general or something. I was also prepared to expect that we’d barely talk with Lilly about the past based on that Make-Your-Own-Clementine thing they released before the first episode, it never focused on the relationships characters had between each other, my Lee was practically friends/allies with Lilly, yet S4 Lilly just acts like it was nothing and ranted about Lee being weak. It came off really weirdly.
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
@@joel.jpgvid Yeah, that was one of my biggest issues. I was pretty friendly with Lilly yet she was super cruel towards Clementine and had zero remorse. I think I wrote quite a bit about that in my episode 2 script for the video I never made (if you want to read it, it's in the description of my ep3 review).
@joel.jpgvid
@joel.jpgvid 5 лет назад
@InColdBlood > I will!
@Vale96.
@Vale96. 5 лет назад
Yeah yeah, many fans wanted Kenny's Hat and yet...
@joel.jpgvid
@joel.jpgvid 5 лет назад
Also, I was really hoping for multiple endings, seeing as they wouldn’t have to continue the series. They could’ve had as many endings as they want. Like, one where Clem dies & AJ lives. Or, one where AJ dies & Clem lives. Does the school survive? Or fall apart? Would AJ/Clem have a home? Or would they have to go on the road again? I get that Skybound had to finish it off somehow and I am ETERNALLY grateful that Clem gets a happy ending, but I just wish that Telltale’s last game ever would really give a shit about our choices...
@mrbooty4281
@mrbooty4281 5 лет назад
There were tons of unanswered questions, this episode felt rushed. Overall i was underwhelmed.
@SamuelJohnsonYT
@SamuelJohnsonYT 5 лет назад
@@mrbooty4281 yeah and it was only 1 hour long
@avianroyalty1158
@avianroyalty1158 5 лет назад
@@mrbooty4281 to be fair, it probably WAS rushed, and had less resources to be completed than other episodes of the game. Episode 3 was already nearly complete before Skybound took over, so the bulk of the limited-resource work was done on this episode. Personally I think they did a pretty good job all things considered
@Slickolas
@Slickolas 3 года назад
They will probably make more TWD games eventually so they probably didn’t want to screw with the outcome too much except for whether Violet, Louis, or Tenn died because they needed something that would be different in the end but not dramatically different endings.
@demijaymes
@demijaymes 5 лет назад
I love your content but here's something I've noticed: I think she goes pale because she was just in three different fights in a few hours. First, Minnie partially stabbed her in the chest (it was able to penetrate her skin enough for her to go weak) before Clem had to either knock her out or rely on Violet to shoot her. Then she has to fight Lilly (a military trained combatant who's the daughter of arguably the strongest character in the entire game). Lilly really beats the shit out of her, too. She rams her into a wall and has her in a chokehold. If AJ didn't stab Lilly so that Clem could twist the knife, I think she would have strangled her to death rather quickly. She also either gets pushed by James or has to fight Walker!James off. Then in the bridge scene, Minerva goes ham on her. I mean, she slices her leg open. I went completely white and passed out after slicing my finger open on a can of cat food, which is definitely not as severe as getting part of your limb split open. She barely manages to jump a bridge and climb a mountain afterwards. I would imagine the paleness is a combination of fatigue, excruciating pain, and blood loss. She's tough and has survived a gunshot wound, getting her arm ripped open by a dog, car accident(s), and determinately fighting for her life after slamming her finger in a car door, but she never had all those things happen to her at once. She was basically a punching bag in the 3rd and 4th episodes.
@jjkilhij9531
@jjkilhij9531 5 лет назад
I’ll miss this game and Clem 🙏 I thought the ending was alright, as you said we almost got no ending at all, so the “happy” ending for Clem was good for me
@fakeninja4447
@fakeninja4447 5 лет назад
"But considering how hampered this season was with its budget and the fact that we almost never even got an ending, I'll take what I can get". Good point, imagine what Telltale would look like today if they never had that corrupt leadership in 2014. After TWD season 1, they would have an enormous budget and some of the best video game writers on the planet, they would literally be able to afford spending a year on each episode, I mean TWD season 1 was a fantastic game even though they barely had any money at that time, imagine what later seasons could've looked like :( Anyway, great video, I really like hearing what you think about these episodes. It's been quite a journey with this game series, and I think everyone will agree when I say it's been a rollercoaster as well. I hope you'll continute making TWD videos even though the series has ended! :)
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
You know, that's a really good point I didn't think about. I have to imagine that Season 1 had a lesser budget as an unknown studio back then than Telltale in 2018 did. Or maybe not. Definitely got more twd videos planned. Thanks for following along with me for this long either way!
@AKAProm
@AKAProm 5 лет назад
I'm actually slightly upset there wasn't an ending where Clem died. I know it sounds pretty hecked up but it was set up perfectly for it and it was all for a bait and switch. I don't mind that there is a happy ending. I'm very glad that there is a happy ending but I really felt like it should've been something that not everyone got. I'm very happy the game got finished and all the praise to Skybound and the Still Not Bitten for actually making it to the end. (Now if only we could get that promised second season of Wolf Among Us.) Looking forward to the new content! Keep up the stellar work.
@PlanetSamix
@PlanetSamix 5 лет назад
It’s better than nothing
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
Pretty much.
@darkstar9380
@darkstar9380 5 лет назад
Agreed about the ranch, it was good but it should have been in the beginning. My main issue is that Tenn and another walker had human traits in them just like in the show's first season, that's not part of the comic canon. I saw through their fake out I was more mad that the tried to make you think that she will die, that annoyed me. Agreed about the fact that Clementine should have ended the game and not AJ, pointed it on a rant post myself on Reddit lol. Either way it's good that the fanbase had an ending for the series. Care to share that post on how AJ saved Clem? Thanks and great video as always!
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/comments/b611zi/how_i_protekted_clem_by_alvin_junior/
@alfonsorodriguez3432
@alfonsorodriguez3432 5 лет назад
Kang era Daryl don’t see why its a problem with A.J being the last character you see bc s1 did the same thing. It ends with Clementine on the screen and not Lee. I guess its a way to say lee passed the torch to Clementine and s4 Clementine passed it down to A.J
@Doom_Hawk
@Doom_Hawk 5 лет назад
Personally, I felt the writing was incredibly contrived in this episode. It felt more like things happened because the writers wanted them to happen, such as Clem's pale look and Minerva maintaining her cover while not acting like a walker and then when it breaks at the end and gets her killed. Regardless though, I didn't mind the shortcuts they took considering all of the behind-the-scenes. Like you said, the individual scenes were all really good. The horror aspect was played up to a great degree in this episode and I absolutely loved that. In terms of the Raider plotline, I spared Lilly in my first playthrough and I was actually fine with how they handled it. We know either way that Lilly is finished and the Delta' plan has been thwarted in regards to this detachment. The focus was never on that though and it was always about this tight knit community in Ericson's. I'm a bit late to see this video unfortunately, but I'm about to start the cut content video and can't wait!
@indedgames4359
@indedgames4359 2 года назад
The pale lock Was a visuel thibg
@rhondahoward8025
@rhondahoward8025 5 лет назад
Here's what tipped me off about the death scene and why it always seemed iffy: No one brings up that Clem could just chop off her foot. It seemed odd to me that they would leave out this potentially life-saving information. They even reinforced this in an earlier episode if you pushed Abel into the walkers. *You can survive a bite if you cut it off fast enough.* What I _thought_ they were doing was showing that there would be no time to do it, as soon after the bite, Clementine says "We have to keep moving" because of the herd showing up. But they don't even mention and then _dismiss_ this. Even Season Two had Pete consider sawing off his foot, then write it off as a lost cause because not only would he lose too much blood, but Clementine couldn't carry him back to the cabin afterwards anyway. Another thing is that Clementine's "death" doesn't happen at the end of the story like Lee's. She "dies" when there's nearly an HOUR left of gameplay so you kinda figure that something's up. Instead of a gun, AJ has an axe. Hm, I wonder (sarcasm) what he's gonna do with that. Oh, and if you tell AJ to leave instead of killing you, the twist REALLY gives itself away. He refuses to do this and turns back around to swing his axe. Once again, (sarcasm) I wonder what he chopped off! There was no thematic purpose for Clementine to die either. Lee's death was foreshadowed as early as Chuck warning him that should anything happen to him, he needed to prepare Clementine for the world ahead. It NEEDED to happen because Lee's story was one of redemption. He basically died a hero. But the whole theme of the Final Season was finding a place to call home. For this theme to be fulfilled, Clementine had to be alive to see it through. She even had that dream sequence in the train with Lee reassuring her that everything would turn out fine.
@fullhousefrek
@fullhousefrek 3 года назад
Plus AJ didn't seem that sad. If clementine had died he would have been much sadder
@MrGrenful
@MrGrenful 5 лет назад
I agree, pacing was an issue. The episode felt like it had no time to waste on mourning characters or just keeping it slow and silent for a bit (like, say, the season 1 ending, where you had several seconds of silence and a black screen before the choices and credits came on, that kinda stuff to let you breathe out). Still, I'm with you on that we're lucky to have it as is. I'm sure their plans for the season were different in some areas before the company died, maybe this episode was a bit more expansive in planning, but whatever. We got an ending, we got some heartfelt moments to remember the characters by, and I'm happy for that. Maybe I'm biased because they totally got me with the twist, but eh, what can you do. Thanks for your videos, man, your work is very appreciated!
@X1GenKaneShiroX
@X1GenKaneShiroX 5 лет назад
Been awhile since you uploaded a video but still am subbed to you, hopefully you grow your channel. I’m pretty sure TFS isn’t a perfect game but with Clementine in it, it’s just enjoyable. I made a tribute to the whole entire TTG TWD series.
@YeahAlright1983
@YeahAlright1983 5 лет назад
I like how you just state the facts with a little about your views and opinions rather than just saying, This is why IIII LIKE this scene and this is why IIII HATE this scene. Thanks for all the vids hope to see more content soon :)
@velvet3302
@velvet3302 5 лет назад
anyone who saw through the ending is lying
@xMari2130
@xMari2130 5 лет назад
I love your reviews on the episodes. You bring up new viewpoints backed by fair reasoning. I'm hoping you do a cut content for this season, if possible :)
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
It'll be my next video!
@xMari2130
@xMari2130 5 лет назад
@@InColdBloodTTG That's amazing news, turning on the notification bell as we speak!
@Leon_2777
@Leon_2777 5 лет назад
I assumed she was going to live when I saw the bite and where it was, but when I saw her in the barn pale, bitten, and brittle I was no longer coherent in the situation and fell for everything. I still feel like we should've saw Lee one last time in EP4, standing in the courtyard waving Clem(And Us) goodbye, even if it would've been cheesy. Also, I wish Marlon's death was determinant and done much like Conrad's was in S3.
@TWDKenny
@TWDKenny 5 лет назад
I always love your reviews because you make points that I tend to miss during/after my playthrough of the episode. Above all, I'm sooo proud of the #StillNotBitten team for what they created and for truly delivering on TFS. I think there definitely was a lot of loose ends they could've tied up/tied up better in TFS though. I know a lot of the questions brought up with Clem's "death scene" I personally thought up of myself. I was convinced that that was the end of the road for her. The fact that she looked so pale and was so weak convinced me that she was gonna turn or die in that barn. After, of course, Clem's reveal back at Ericson, I definitely wondered how a walker-blood-covered axe was able to hack off her leg and somehow not kill her or speed up the infection process, but like you said, consistency really hasn't been a point of priority for Skybound in the TWD universe, I guess. Realistically though, I wasn't thinking about this during my playthrough and I was just happy Clem was alive. Talking about Lilly, though, I think you're right in saying it was wasted potential...it was a great reveal and throwback to S1, but the fact that Lilly just kinda gets that brick-thrown-at-your-face ending with her either being shot or...casually floating away...was really disheartening for Lilly fans. With such a diverse character as her being painted as your cliche TWD villain, I felt like they really could've expanded more upon her. Instead, I felt like she was just a scapegoat for Skybound to make the fans hate someone or make a villain. Lilly was always a hardass in S1, but how belligerent and violent she was in TFS just felt uncharacteristic of her, honestly. Just some missed opportunities, I think. Not to mention that with Kenny's hat...oh God don't even get me started. I loved how you brought back the idea of the point system like Kenny had; that would've been awesome to have in TFS for a branched ending...but I get that the game was under massive restrictions as a whole. I thought the ranch scene was a little half-assed myself, but I also am glad we at least got the closure from S3. Sad to see Eddie make a cameo just to be mercilessly killed by Clem though. I think the whole scene just felt super rushed. Nobody knows why the ranch was set on fire. Clem doesn't know anybody there, so she feels obligated to put a bullet in their heads (whether out of mercy or self defense). There's also somehow a random car just casually crashed and parked through a wall with the radio blasting? I dunno, it just felt rushed and out of place. I think you made a great point in saying it should've been the start of the episode rather than near the end. You know, as morbid as this is to say, part of me wishes Clem died so we could've gotten some scene where she reunites with all the people who have died in your playthrough (Kenny, Jane, Rebecca, Alvin, Carley, Lee ofc) all the way back to season 1. Don't get me wrong, I'm sooo happy Clem is still alive and happy with all the other Ericson kids, but imo if they wanted a true "bitter-sweet ending", that's how I would've done it. With how tragic this year has been for Telltale and their games, words can't describe how happy I am with Skybound and the #StillNotBitten team with their work and how well they've picked up the ball with TFS. Like you said, it's not a perfect ending, but at least it's damn well satisfying. Can't wait to see what both you and Skybound have in store for us next.
@KAlovesherkitties
@KAlovesherkitties 5 лет назад
Super awesome video. I just found this channel not too long ago so I watch your content when I'm on the treadmill. I pretty much agree with your points BUT I will add that her color changing is pretty legit given the injury. I know I questioned it too during game play so I asked my husband (he's a doc) if one could look that pale from losing blood within 15 minutes. He said yes it's entirely possible but that it's easy to get her paleness confused with turning because that's the first thing one would assume in a zombie show/game/etc so shrugs. I'll take it as given the time it took her to get to the barn she'd look like crap due to the blood loss.
@IgorNetoAnimation
@IgorNetoAnimation 5 лет назад
*Yes.*
@digtalfear1177
@digtalfear1177 5 лет назад
I definitely liked hearing your opinions on the different episodes as they came out, and I enjoyed your mini reviews a lot! Can’t wait for the cut content video, and whatever you release next!
@LeshenLord
@LeshenLord 5 лет назад
Sorry to throw an essay at you, but for some reason I think this is important to talk about. If Tenn is the one who dies at the bridge, there is a decently long conversation where Violet/Louis get understandably pissed off and scold AJ. I thought that was, at the very least, way better than the scenes with Ava/Tripp in ANF. If Violet/Louis is the one who dies, it's only a brief exchange between Tenn and AJ, AJ being the pissed off one. I'm not sure what they could have done to make these conversations longer because zombies are everywhere at this point and everything is pretty high-octane. Compare that the Ava/Tripp scenes where they were relatively safe on that bridge and could afford to take some more time to talk. I thought the transition between the barn scene and flashback was fine and needed. There is barely any dialogue so you are able to remain thinking about what just happened in the back of your mind. It was also very necessary to cut to something else after the axe swings. The clearly purposeful, overly-obvious foreshadowing of Clementine's death throughout the entire season already left people wondering whether she would die in this season. On the one hand, they they dropped plenty of hints, and it's the very last season, so she could've really died. On the other hand, they hinted at it so damn much that it almost seems like they wanted us to go, "there's no way they'll kill her because it's too obvious! Or is that just what they want us to think so that her death will still be a surprise...?" This makes it so when the scene cuts to black you truly do not know if she is dead. Then you have a flashback that people have been waiting a long time for. "I'll never leave you again", the last line in the flashback, could mean a couple different things. Maybe it's supposed to be dramatically ironic because she'd dead? Or maybe she's still alive, meaning that this statement is still very much true? And if that's the case, the statement still holds some dramatic irony because this time it was AJ who saved Clem and not the other way around. Because we still don't know the truth at the time the line is spoken, even more suspense is created through this. It's rather impressive to me. If the flashback was shown at the beginning of the episode, they couldn't set it up like this. So basically, I don't think you were supposed to be "fooled" by Clem's "death," but instead very nervous. The reason she was so pale was because of hypovolemia. She lost a lot of blood from the axe wound dealt by Minerva which never got patched up. Regarding how AJ saved Clem, Kirkbride (the lead designer who made the Reddit post) said that his explanation was just his own head-canon, basically. Someone asked him if it was a scrapped scene, and Kirkbride said: "[...] it wasn’t a scrapped scene. In fact, this is just my version of events when I really bother to think it through. In terms of the story, the how of Clem’s survival didn’t feel as important to hear as the why of it. The former is a bunch of logistical busy work, the latter is simply because AJ made the first decision for himself since the first episode. In that one, it resulted in a loss of life; here, finally, he saves one. The most important one." [Source: www.reddit.com/r/TheWalkingDeadGame/comments/b611zi/how_i_protekted_clem_by_alvin_junior/ejj6cgy/?context=3 ] You could come up with other ways in which Clem is saved. The other kids were probably out looking for them anyways, and the barn and school aren't very far apart, so it's not implausible that they find the barn, help AJ kill the zombies, and take Clem back together. That's just what I thought of. You can think of a number of different explanations, including Kirkbride's own. If they put in a scene explaining it, it would break the episode's flow and cadence, especially since we don't need an explanation for everything in every story. Like Kirkbride said, sometimes it's much more important to know *why* something happened and what it means for character development as opposed to *how* something happened. And in this case, the only way to efficiently show the *why* was to remove the *how*. And it works. We didn't need to play as or even see Clementine in the very final scene. The final conversation with Clementine shows how she is passing on the torch to AJ, similarly to how Lee did for Clementine herself. After all, the final scene of S1 is a shot of Clem, not Lee (I know Lee is dead but you get my point). Clem's last line is "You're welcome. For everything" which is brilliant in multiple ways. Firstly, she has gone through a lot of shit throughout the whole series. She has done a lot for AJ. What else should her last line be? Clem and AJ's last exchange that we see is one of *mutual gratitude*. I couldn't ask for anything better than that. It also has a meta implication, if I understand it correctly. This episode almost didn't get made. The devs themselves have gone through hell trying to pull this off. The fans and the devs also have mutual gratitude towards one another; a meta parallel to AJ and Clem. What a perfect double meaning. As for "choices not mattering"...what is new? Every single Telltale game in this style has the same "problem." Season 1's ending has as much variation as TFS's ending (which is to say, minimal variation), so what is the problem? Why do we *need* multiple endings? I agree with what Kent Mudle (creative director of the season) said on his Tumblr several days ago: "I honestly don’t think telltale should have ever leaned so hard into choices mattering in their marketing, because really they are just a device to engage the player in he story being told. Agency isn’t the point, good storytelling is. Players THINK they want total agency but they actually want a crafted experience that’s immersive." [Source: kmudle.tumblr.com/post/183866516396/now-while-you-werent-involved-with-season-1i ] And holy hell, it was surely immersive. I hope you at least take some of this into consideration in your larger TFS review that you mentioned is in the works.
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
I read every comment so don't worry about length. I can see where you're coming from with some of the things you've mentioned here but I don't agree with it. Tenn/Violet/Louis scene: I don't have any issues with this scene beyond the fact that it blends into the other scenes way too quickly. Barn/Flashback: I'm going to hard disagree with this, and I say that as someone who really liked the flashback. I shouldn't still be thinking about whether or not Clementine is still alive. Every scene should have it's own mini-story and it would be fine to still have the lingering thought of Clementine if the scene makes sense, but in this case is absolutely does not. It's hard to take it seriously for what it is when all you can think about is whether or not Clementine is actually dead. It removes the tone completely. If they had cut from the 'death' to AJ alone, I think it would work much better. As it is, like someone else mentioned, it feels like filler you need to fight through in order to discover the truth. People didn't care about the flashback because they just wanted to confirm the truth of Clementine's survival. Clementine's survival/rescue: I'm sorry, no. I understand that not every scene needs to be explained, I'm okay with that. I don't need to see her entire journey walking from place to place. If nothing big happens during that time then it's just cutting out dead air. What is not okay is something as significant as the protagonists rescue, unexplained by anyone in the story after it's happened. Could you imagine if in Season 1 after Lee falls asleep it suddenly skips to the morgue and Lee is already bitten without us finding out why? It would be ridiculous, something that important needs to be shown to the player. The reality of the situation is that they did this on purpose in order to surprise the player that Clementine is alive, that's the entire purpose of the reveal and what is supposed to be the emotional payoff. It comes across as melodramatic soap opera writing. If you have to make excuses after the fact as to why something happened because there isn't actually any canonical in-game reason that explains it, then that's not good writing. Clementine final scene: I do like the final Clementine scene we have, but we're just going to have to disagree on whether she should have been there in the final scene. Those can still be her final words, I didn't say she had to talk, but she really needed to in the final frame because it's the ending to her story, not the beginning of AJ's. That was kind of the whole point of the season in the first place She's one of the first and last. As for the choices thing, It's not even neccesarily different endings that I want, but just some kind of consequence. Lee's death makes sense because that was always the plan for his character arc from the very beginning. It's a redemption story where Lee feels like he has made up for the sins of his past. If AJ was always planned to never listen to a damn thing you said and do whatever he felt was neccesary, what was the point of giving him 'lessons' and telling him what is and isn't acceptable if none it really mattered? To waste our time? Immersion only really works if the player feels like the world is responding to their input. If you picked up a controller to play a game and pressed buttons but you realised that it's not you that's actually playing the game, it's somebody else, would you say that's immersive? Satisfying? I wouldn't. That's kind of what it feels like when the game is baiting you into thinking that what you're saying and doing has meaning. Kent's response is basically a copout. Other seasons are guilty of this too and I'd lambast them for that same thing. But even Season 1 had your choices impact who went with you to the morgue, TFS didn't even get something like that. You'd think after 3 seasons they would put forth a bit more effort into making branching paths. Trust me, I've thought about this season a lot. I've considered a lot of things. The thing is, I don't dislike the ending. Aspects of it, sure, but for what it is I'm okay with it. I'm just more disappointed with how the season as a whole was structured. Budget and some debatable story decisions forced the story into this weird angle where I don't think it should ever have been which is really the biggest issues it has. But I'll talk about that more when I make my video.
@LeshenLord
@LeshenLord 5 лет назад
@@InColdBloodTTG > I shouldn't still be thinking about whether or not Clementine is still alive. The way I see it, we were meant to wonder about whether she will die in the first place for a very long time, and I would think that being left wondering for not even that long is effective (it did affect me after all). > Every scene should have it's own mini-story and it would be fine to still have the lingering thought of Clementine if the scene makes sense, but in this case is absolutely does not. It's hard to take it seriously for what it is when all you can think about is whether or not Clementine is actually dead. It removes the tone completely. I guess I don't have much to say in response other than I did not have that experience. Maybe we're just wired differently, but I felt the whole thing was natural. And that last line, "I'll never leave you again" adds a lot to the suspense I was talking about before because of the long line of previous foreshadowing and the constant wonder about if the foreshadowing is a red herring or not (or a red herring to another red herring...!). That's why I think the flashback needed to be there instead of the flashback being in the beginning, and the barn scene going straight to AJ fishing. "I'll never leave you again" is important to hear at that particular moment, and not before. > Could you imagine if in Season 1 after Lee falls asleep it suddenly skips to the morgue and Lee is already bitten without us finding out why? This seems like a false equivalence; we saw Clementine get bit and we saw Lee get bit. A fairer comparison would be how a 9-year-old Clem had the strength to drag a 37-year-old Lee through a herd without attracting the dead's attention (even with guts on them, you can't deny the risk) and getting to the jewelery store. In the same way I don't care that much how AJ saved Clem, I don't care that much about how Clem pulled that off because both of these actions without explanations serve the greater purpose of having Clem/AJ discover their own independence and agency, which is what both their arcs had been leading up to the whole time. In both these cases, it's improbable that these children did what they did, but not unbelievable or impossible. And it's very easy to fill in the gaps that we don't see, such as what I said before about the other kids coming to find them and help. If we skipped from Lee falling asleep to the morgue, it would be pretty hard to fill that gap, not to mention that the quiet moments leading up to Lee getting bit were important for putting the player in a tense state of mind; a state of mind that the player was already in during Clem's situation. > she really needed to in the final frame because it's the ending to her story, not the beginning of AJ's It's not just about Clementine. The story is about Clem, the kid who spent half her life in the apocalypse, teaching AJ, the kid who spent his entire life in the apocalypse, about how to live and how to be a person. She didn't do a perfect job, but she did more good than bad. She's insecure about it, which is why one of the last things we hear her say is "Did I do a good job?" while on the verge of crying. No matter what AJ says in response to this, it's clear that Clem made the best out of a collection of terrible circumstances. AJ is now becoming his own person, and that is exemplified in the final scene. > If AJ was always planned to never listen to a damn thing you said and do whatever he felt was neccesary, what was the point of giving him 'lessons' and telling him what is and isn't acceptable if none it really mattered? What Clem teaches AJ does have effects, though. His attitude changes in multiple scenes throughout the season depending on whether you told him he committed murder, whether you tell him to shoot Lilly, and whether you trust him to use a gun in the final episode. That last one determines life or death too, so you can't tell me nothing mattered. It was mostly dialogue differences, sure, but that has consitently been the case throughout Telltale's history. I can agree that branching narratives would be cool but it's an unreasonable expectation to have. The only game that succeeded in having a truly branching narrative structure was Detroit: Become Human and that game (1) is written very poorly and (2) took something like 5 years to develop. Imagine how much longer it might take with quality writing that we see in TWD...? > even Season 1 had your choices impact who went with you to the morgue, TFS didn't even get something like that. Yes it did. Who dies at the bridge scene determines what scene AJ has before him and Clem's final conversation. The dialogue and visual differences (i.e. who's standing in the room) in the morgue depending on who is with you are just as minimal as that one scene that AJ has towards the end: either talking with Tenn about how to use a gun, drawing with Tenn, or talking about the "caravan" with Louis or Violet. Arguably, it's a larger impact in TFS because the very conversation that AJ has and who he talks with changes with what the player chose earlier, whereas in the morgue it's basically the same conversation with a couple of extra remarks thrown in from characters that came with you. You say that it's unimmersive because it's "somebody else playing the game" but that's just untrue. That's partly because of what I just said in the previous paragraph but also because there's more to immersion. Immersion is also about atmosphere and getting close to feeling like what it on screen is actually happening (i.e. acting quality, etc.). I say "getting close" because it's impossible to have a video game feel 100% immersive and like it's actually happening, but hopefully you get my point. By the way, don't feel like we have to keep going back and forth about this. I'm just hoping to strike more common ground.
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
@@LeshenLord >I guess I don't have much to say in response other than I did not have that experience. Maybe we're just wired differently, but I felt the whole thing was natural. And that's fine if it worked for you, but judging from the comments on this very video and discussions elsewhere online I'm certainly not in the minority in thinking the feeling was off. >This seems like a false equivalence That's not what a false equivalence is. It's not a literal comparison, the point is that from a narrative perspective Clementine's survival is detriment to the story - so is seeing how Lee got bit. You can't just 'hide' that information away and expect people to suddenly accept it as if it's an insignificant detail. At the end of Infinity War, Thanos snaps his fingers erasing 50% of the population. Do you think it makes any logical, narrative or practical sense that all of the characters that got 'erased' are suddenly alive and well at the beginning of the next film with no explanation as to how they came back to life? That is completely unacceptable storytelling. >A fairer comparison would be how a 9-year-old Clem had the strength to drag a 37-year-old Lee through a herd without attracting the dead's attention (even with guts on them, you can't deny the risk) and getting to the jewelery store. In the same way I don't care that much how AJ saved Clem, I don't care that much about how Clem pulled that off because both of these actions without explanations serve the greater purpose of having Clem/AJ discover their own independence and agency, which is what both their arcs had been leading up to the whole time. Except there IS an explanation for the Lee scene to happen, there is absolutely nothing in the TFS to explain how Clementine got back to the school. Clementine says as much herself that she dragged him into the store in S1. Besides, the difference between dragging Lee an incredibly short distance (she was also older than AJ at the time) compared to a trek back to the school is even more improbable to the point of illogical. I can accept that some details can be left out, improbable or not. But when you have no reasoning for how Clementine got back safe (she was very pale, cutting her leg off with an axe seems like a death sentence) and then expect the audience to find no issue with a six year old somehow knowing how to treat a decapitated leg wound, managing to carry a grown adult back to the school (I guess there were no zombies on the way back?) and her having a full recovery with no proper medical attention (don't say Ruby)... you don't see how one sounds far, far more believable than the other? The comparison is apples and oranges. The audience can only suspend their disbelief so far before it becomes silly. >she really needed to in the final frame because it's the ending to her story, not the beginning of AJ's Didn't really refute what I said, I understand the context but that doesn't mean I agree with it. Had there been plans to create more games with AJ as the lead or had Clementine really died and AJ was taking the mantle, then I could accept it. But if it's truly about 'both' their stories, then both of them should be in that room together. >whether you tell him to shoot Lilly, and whether you trust him to use a gun in the final episode. That last one determines life or death too, so you can't tell me nothing mattered. It's one choice in the same episode. You're missing the forest for the trees. My issue is the buildup from the season as a whole goes unused. You can say and do everything up until the trust point and only then will AJ either act or not depending on what you said earlier in the episode instead of taking into account EVERYTHING that you told him during the story. What they should have done is make the trust choice based on everything you've done throughout the season and then I would have no problem with it. There are dialogue mentions, that's true, and that's something that I appreciate but if they can do that then why can't they take the time to focus on the bigger picture? Haven't played Detroit so I can't respond to that. I'm not asking for 300 different branched endings with different characters, I'm asking for my actions to have some kind of consequence, which from the season overall - they don't. >Who dies at the bridge scene determines what scene AJ has before him and Clem's final conversation. Again, missing the forest for the trees. My point is that what you've done *throughout the season* dictates who goes with you. Even with Ben, you can have a say in whether or not he should come with you. There's multiple different varations of who comes with you, and the scenes of who do and don't vary differently depending on who's there. Whereas there is nothing that takes into account what you've done throughout the season in TFS. I feel like I'm just repeating myself at this point. >You say that it's unimmersive because it's "somebody else playing the game" but that's just untrue. My opinion can't be 'untrue'. If someone finds something not immersive and someone else does, that doesn't mean either of them are right. It's purely a matter of perspective. >By the way, don't feel like we have to keep going back and forth about this. I'm just hoping to strike more common ground. I don't really want to either to be honest. You're allowed to believe whatever you want, you don't have to convince me. I've explained why I take issue with things I didn't like this season and why I don't think they worked. If you think they did, that's fine. But I don't, and I've explained why I came to the conclusion I did.
@LeshenLord
@LeshenLord 5 лет назад
@@InColdBloodTTG Well I think I understand where you're coming from. We just don't see problems in the same way. That's okay, I suppose. Good luck on your next video.
@SnowDreamFlake
@SnowDreamFlake 5 лет назад
Thank you for making the review! Your thoughts and opinion are always very interesting to me, and i'm already so excited for your video about the whole Season and your big surprise you mentioned! :) So here are my own thoughts and point of view on the last episode :) when i played the episode for the first time and saw the ending, i honestly didn't know what to think about that or how i felt exactly. Right from the start I was one of the people, who kinda wanted Clem being dead, because i couldn't imagine a cheesy happy ending in a zombie apocalypse, where everything turns out good. i told myself: "A happily ever after like in one of these disney movies? Not for me." When i believed in Clem's death at the barn scene (yes the scene tricked me as well) i had tears in my eyes, but i was actually overall pretty satisfied that Clem 'died' , because for me it came full circle with the parallel on Lee's death in S1 and it felt realistic to me, that everyone dies sooner or later and that Clementine, as much as strong and capable she became through the years, can't be an exception. I liked that we saw the others from the boarding school, including Aj (while he slowly walks towards the gate) having a normal daily routine after all, it showed me that even without Clementine life must go on like in real life if someone dies. And i was totally fine and satisfied with this bittersweet idea, that Aj might have lost Clementine but instead won a safe home. And then the next shot revealed that Clem is actually alive and Aj just cut her leg off. I was very surprised and shocked about this, because i didn't expect this at all. In the first moment it felt like forced fan service to me, because obviously most of us wanted her to live and skybound just gave us what we wanted all along. I was disappointed at first, also because (like you said) there wasn't any explanation about how exactly Clem survived after we saw her very weak and pale. The plot twist seemed unlogical and unrealistic... even when i read the explanation on how Aj protected Clem, i couldn't believe that a little boy like him made this all by himself and got all of these clever ideas, like to tie up Clem's leg with a rope if there aren't any bandages or to carry her in the barrow. I highly doupt that Clem prepard him for this kind of situation in a barn. But no matter how impossible that might be seems i started thinking again later.. to the point, that i was actually pretty okay with the ending. I started to like the fact that Clem's journey ended differently than Lee's, otherwise it would have been just a lame and uncreative repeat of the first season. And the plot twist also showed me some kind of bittersweetness as well by losing a leg and a love interest or good friend. (still wished there was more tragic though, like more losses) But overall i could accept the ending just fine and the way they showed the credits on the wall inside was very creative and unique. i also liked that we saw Clem very human, when she talked to Aj alone. The line where she revealed her doupts in herself and her lessons she gave Aj, made her finally realistic as a character. She acted always like a strong, confident fighter and survivor, but now she showed us a new and different side of her by telling Aj that she was in fact insecure and didn't had a plan what was best, but she didn't want to show this in front of Aj, hoped he wouldn't notice her true thoughts and feelings. i really liked this honest and human side of her. Also i didn't had a problem with the very last shot with Aj placing all the collactibles, because i have many thoughts on it... first of all for me the series was in every season about a duo and their relationship with each other and not only about Clem. Like Season 1 was about Lee & Clementine, the second season was about Kenny & Clementine, ANF was about Javier & Clem, and the last season was about Aj & Clementine. Even though Clem was obviously always the heart of the series, Aj played a very big part in the final season (he was the reason she survived in the first place), so for me this season was about Clem & Aj as a Team. Also after all Aj has been through, we finally saw him acting like a little boy by talking to Disco Broccoli for example or to wonder if the crystal has any magical powers, just like a normal boy his age would do. To see him enjoying his childhood, after he had to grown up very fast in this kind of world, was refreshing to me. Also i really liked the idea that the very last shot was actually about Clem's hat. Clem's hat represented her long, messy journey, it showed how much the hat went through (considering how dirty and worn the hat became through the years), just like Clementine went through a lot of messed up things as well. My biggest problem might be the Lily/james outcome. I was disappointed that our choice by either killing Lily or sparing her was pretty pointless at the end of the day. Because even when she is alive in Episode 4, she only lasts for like 2 minutes longer and Clementine and her have a pointless conversation, even the option "Shoot her", that showed up three times did nothing, so why was the option even there? But the james outcome was in my opinion worse. i was very disappointed about his portrayal in episode 4. i knew he would be mad, but aggressively attacking Clem a lot of times seems over the place for his character. One of the main reasons why i liked james in episode 2 & 3 was his calm and balanced personality, in the whole series we never met someone like him before, that made him very unique as a character... but in episode 4 he acts like this kind of agressive character we already often saw in this game, someone you can replace very easily with another. He became a pacifist, because he started to hate violence after all that happened in his past. We learned that he changed for a reason. And now that he breaks his own rules and uses violence by himself came out of nowhere... it felt like, they wanted to force some extra, needless drama. Also the fact that no matter what we did and no matter how well we got along in episode 2 & 3, there wasn't an option he could join the boarding school at the end. in Episode 3 Clem and James had a conversation with each other, where you could tell him he can be friends with all of them and he wanted to think about that. Why was this dialogue choice even there, when it meant nothing? Also in my opinion there wasn't any hard choice in episode 4. The two main choices you could make was either kill Clem or leave her and either trusting Aj or not. Like you already said, our choices didn't matter at all. Clem lived no matter what, Aj became good at the end , even when you taught him all the "wrong" things. All the foreshadowing of Aj can become a cold-blooded killer, if you taught him the bad lessons, was all for nothing. The outcome is the same. The only choice, that had an impact was the death of either Tenn or Violet/Louis. So overall i have mix feelings about the last episode, it was clearly not perfect in my eyes, but i still enjoyed a lot of little details and aspects and i can say after a lot of thinking that i'm at peace with the ending. And of course i'm very glad and grateful that skybound finished the story for us and that we got a conclusion. (sorry for mistakes, i'm not as good in english as you. But i still hope you can understand what i'm talking about^^)
@aquasoul8871
@aquasoul8871 5 лет назад
Always love hearing your thoughts on this series man and can’t wait for the vid on the whole season. Overall I really enjoyed this season (especially more than the previous ANF & Michonne). But I do agree that it missed the mark in some aspects, particularly in what they did with some of the main characters which I think could’ve been fixed with a little more time to work on the episode. For example, although it may seem out of character, why not have James return to the school in the epilogue if you kept him alive? After all, if you pick the right choices he accepts your views and defends you from walkers, so why not wrap up his character rather than leaving it open? Even with Lilly, maybe they could’ve thrown some kind of scene in with her appearing as a walker, putting Clem and AJ at ease of her return. Of course, I think what they did with Lilly/James is better than just killing them off next episode (EG: Ava/Tripp) but I feel like adding to this, and a few other small things, could’ve made this finale perfect.
@SomeGuy234
@SomeGuy234 5 лет назад
Probably everyone said this, but I will say it too. Do a cut content of Season 4! Also, maybe Season 1, 400 days, and Michone's story thingy.
@powerfrenzy
@powerfrenzy 5 лет назад
Really, I think they should have swapped the ranch sequence in e4 with the Lee sequence in e3. For 3 it could relate the stress and fear she's dealing with given her situation and for e4, the peace as (seemingly) letting go and seeing an old friend at the end of the struggle
@Lumaah
@Lumaah 5 лет назад
I enjoyed the episode up until the epilogue and that's when the season as a whole was brought down for me, Clementine living to me was done entirely for shock factor and/or fan-service, the execution seemed really sloppy, in my opinion there should have been 2 endings with slight variations, one where she lives and one where she dies, and depending on your choices with AJ the ending will change to have AJ be a good or a bad person. The ending could be determined by the choice early on in the episode where you can choose to trust AJ or not to trust him, if you tell him to kill/leave you where you didn't then he does it if you tell him to kill/leave you when you trusted him then he will cut off the leg. the epilogue in my opinion shouldn't have even been there since it ruined the pacing of the first half. the episode was way too fast for my liking, my favourite episodes of every season have always been the more dialogue heavy episodes, Long Road Ahead was my favourite episode from season 1, there was the emotional moment with Duck, the hope with the train, the introduction of Christa & Omid, the training Clementine scene, and also the shocking moment of Lilly killing Carley/Doug, it had everything, this episode was all action besides a few minutes of talking. This episode went, action scene with the boat, find a way across the water, talk to Violet/Louis, action scene with fighting Minnie, death, Clementine gets bit, action scene in the barn she "dies" all in the span of about an hour. There should have been a lot of time to get to know the characters, it also seriously annoyed me that there was no dialogue exchanged between Clementine and anybody from the school besides Tenn & Louis/Violet, there should have also been some time to mourn Clementine after her death, same with whoever died at the bridge, Tenn's death is Louis/Violet getting angry at AJ and instantly moving on, it doesn't even last 2 minutes, Louis/Violet's death is even worse, Tenn will just say "I did that" and then AJ will slap him and then you're done. The ranch flashback should have came at the start of the episode with the intro rolling after Clementine drives away and the epilogue should have been only around 10 minutes with us not playing as AJ during it. The biggest issue I have other than the epilogue is that none of your choices do anything big, all the choices you make for AJ (kill the walker couple, kill Lilly, justified/murderer) end up doing nothing, the whole point of the season was to build a home for AJ whilst also raising him to be a good person (or bad) the hard struggle of balancing sacrifice with his sanity, making this choice could make things easier but it could affect AJ in the longrun. Overall I enjoyed the episode, it's definitely my least favourite of the season but I really enjoyed it aside from the epilogue and I'm happy we got an ending I didn't like rather than not getting one at all.
@TheBrightSword
@TheBrightSword 5 лет назад
Do you have any criticism regarding James' unnecessary betrayal in this episode? I personally thought that he is a wasted potential. He was out of character in this episode, and threatening Clem and stealing AJ isn't something he does casually. He also ends up either ditching Clem or 'buying her more time' even though the exit from the cave wasn't that far, and no walkers follow the group whether he stayed behind or not.
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
This is one of those things I would have talked about quite a bit but I didn't want the video to be longer that it was. His mindset is illogical so him treating AJ like he was being 'corrupted' by Clementine makes some sort of sense but the way he went about it was contradictory to his character. You could argue that was his 'whisperer' coming out but I'm not sure if I can give the writers credit for that, it seemed unintentional. As for buying the group time, I think you could argue that he just wanted away with Clementine at that point. He realised that he wasn't going to convince AJ to stay with him and Clementine was fighting back so he probably just wanted an excuse to get away from her and the group with the way they treated him.
@jadaorth6870
@jadaorth6870 5 лет назад
Very excited to see more from you, also skybound mentioned a 5th season on their twitter, SO WE MIGHT HAVE MORE WHO TF KNOWS AT THIS POINT
@ohalr.
@ohalr. 5 лет назад
Yes! The review!!
@Vale96.
@Vale96. 5 лет назад
I'll never get over Kenny's Hat missing. If they'll make other TWD, I don't know if I'll still buy them.
@mannewil_
@mannewil_ 5 лет назад
Thank you for this video. I'd say that this episode was pretty... Pretty much a mixed bag, but that's what I also have to say about this whole season in general. I don't quite like how they've portrayed Minnie as this Uber-Tough person, who was bitten at least twice before finding us (HOW?), and with two bites, she's still pretty good at her movement, could aim, and could keep thinking how to fight us (That bloody spit to cloud our vision, for example), but then again, I'm not much of her fan anyway, so I may be just overly biased. I do dislike the system of that AJ's outcome will be the same no matter what. I dislike how they've gone lazy with it only summarizing his thoughts on everything which... Honestly holds no ground, since even at times in that summary, I've seen things which he hasn't thought/used. Like, why? But then again, it's Telltale, so I've never expected depth from choices. I mean hell, it didn't matter if we were to satisfy Ruby or Mitch in the second episode, and while in third episode everyone was bitter about Mitch's death, in fourth season it's basically like Mitch is forgotten by literally everyone. Alongside with other people who've died. Nobody even asked us about Tenn if he didn't make it out alive, like holy shit, the interactions between characters (and they're all still children) I find ridiculous. I also really found this episode funny, in terms of how everyone was oblivious to threats. For example when two of those Delta members die, one's told to shoot Willy and misses, with us killing her, and then that other woman out of rage, while being surrounded by fucking zombies, flips out and tries to shoot us. I seriously don't understand where did all of this "professionalism" of Delta squad go. It seems like it's disappeared, and Minnie was the only one who was shown, albeit it was exaggerated. I think this season is both the best (In terms of how many different "mini-games" throughout the main film are offered (even if they're annoying more than they're interesting) and as well as graphics, and arguably optimization for those graphics) and the weakest in how it tried to make us cry. I've played season one and season two before playing the final gem, and I'll be honest, I still cried at Lee's death, here however, I didn't quite think something that'd be infuriating. As for you, Gray, I'm glad you're still doing this thing, and I'll be on the lookout for your next video. This video is still great, short, but informative and opinionated, as well as it has pretty good editing, which isn't in your face as well as helping it. Anyhow, thank you for giving one shit about this long-ass comment, or name it TED talk.
@LoriTheGirl
@LoriTheGirl 5 лет назад
@F.I.B1
@F.I.B1 5 лет назад
So what do you have in mind after the walking dead final season?
@darkstar9380
@darkstar9380 5 лет назад
Glad that you will keep rolling the channel. I wonder if you will cover life is strange or the TV show/comics of twd.
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
I like Life of Strange S1, it's flawed but it's decent. S2 imo seems awful so far, the writing borders on cringe too many times and is needlessly political. Maybe it'll get better but I most likely won't cover either of those. I won't be talking about the comics or TV show either. I haven't watched the TV show since the the Beth/hospital arc and I haven't read the comics in some time.
@mal3nko
@mal3nko 5 лет назад
As a LiS2 fan, I’m offended.
@kaylagidney6498
@kaylagidney6498 5 лет назад
Should we be looking forward to Cut Content videos of the final season like the ones you made for past seasons?
@frazerpeppitt5179
@frazerpeppitt5179 4 года назад
Had an idea for one of the alternate scenes you mentioned, figured I'd write this out incase anyone else agrees / came to the same conclusion and wants to go "I thought so to!". The barn scene does work , and when I played it I also fell for it, but I liked what you mentioned about a point system. I should stress that these are theories made up by myself and I figure that there could have been at least 5 different endings based off what you pick, so without further ado; 1: (Best, Clem survives) Clem tells AJ to kill her, but instead he tells her he's gonna try take the limb off. Now this would play out if you had pushed Abel, and then explained to AJ you can survive a bite if you cut the limb off fast enough, as well as shaping AJ to be hopeful rather than a cold blooded murderer. This could even play into trusting AJ to make the call, as if you didn't trust him, not only would L/V die, but he also might not be confident enough to try this and instead obey Clem and kill her. If you did trust him, he's confident in himself and tells Clem he's gonna try and stop the infection and cut off her leg. The final shot would be similar, the axe comes up, and AJ says something like "I hope this works" before cutting to black. Obviously you could have the game play out similar, with the player not knowing her fate until she walks up later on, as well as another tense scene where AJ wheels her back whilst avoid walkers. 2: (Bad, Clem dies, AJ alive but alone) Probably the worst ending, but it makes for variety. If Clem and AJ are nothing but horrible to the kids at the school, always put themselves first, never connect with anyone and try to get them killed, there could be another ending where the kids will refuse to take Clem in at the school when AJ wheels her back with a cut off leg and says she's bitten, thus AJ is forced to carry on alone, as the kids don't help him save her or take him in to protect and he has to kill her. Could extend this further with AJ being on the road and being picked up by someone, either James, Lily, Delta, hell even someone from 400 days, the list is endless really. 3: (Bad, Clem dies, AJ lives) Clem tells AJ to kill her, but he asks whether he should try and cut her leg off instead. This would be similar to the first option I just mentioned, but since AJ doesn't trust himself you would get the option (As clem) to tell him yeah try it or no, it won't work, just kill me. This could then spiral as if AJ doesn't trust or agree with clem, he would instead run away to get help, with this being the fact he hasn't shed his childhood innocence, and is still arrogant throughout the series, refusing to believe she'll die before he can save her. If this happened, we could get an ending where everyone is okay, but like in S2, they lead an expedition to the barn only to find a turned Clem, who is executed or left, has a funeral and then the season ends. 4: (Bad, Clem dies, AJ lives) Similar to the above, Clem tells AJ to kill her and he does, meaning he leaves her behind in the barn and goes back to the school. Again, similar to the above, where they return to the barn as a group and find her executed instead of a walker, or could even be an option where AJ leaves the barn but never returns with the other kids. 5: (Bad, Clem and AJ turn together) If AJ doesn't trust or agree with Clem and doesn't want her to die he could refuse to kill her, letting her turn and end up turning himself. This would count as the bad ending as Clem could either resist and try and convince AJ to leave but ultimately fail and then eat him, or she could accept it alongside him, as she is delirious and near death and her last moments are embracing AJ, with a cut to black before she turns. If the dev's wanted they could also have a scene where either James (if he's alive), or the kids from the school eventually visit the barn in search of Clem and AJ and find them together, (potentially as both walkers?) Some of the endings are quite unfortunate and I realise that, but the series has been moving towards this style as it has continued, and since people always love to speculate, the debate for which ending is canon could be left to them, with the dev's releasing more seasons proving she survived or if they don't then she died in the canon ending. Just my 2 pennies worth, hope you enjoy the read! P.S love your content, hope to see more!
@thatonecountrythateveryone1658
I have mixed feelings about the ending. I really enjoyed season 4 overall (Done Running and Broken Toys are arguably the best episodes in the entire franchise besides season 1. That being said,I’m iffy about the ending. I feel like the pacing was pretty bad and some characters (cough cough,James) completely went against their moral values. It’s so weird how James goes from pacifist to trying to kidnap AJ and threatening to maime Clem because of one event. I also don’t like how Lily just bails in the beginning(I was really looking forward to a more drawn out fight with her this episode) but i think that Minerva makes up for it. I still think that these were probably the best batch of characters we’ve ever gotten in any season of TWD they were all pretty fleshed out and even the minor characters were pretty good. The thing I disliked the most about this episode was the ending. I hated how they made Clem’s situation look hopeless and then bam! All of a sudden she’s A okay and they never explained how the hell AJ managed to cut the leg off without killing Clem or how they got out of the barn(at least not ingame). That being said,I still think this is the 2nd best season of TWD the other episodes were really good and even though the ending wasn’t great,it’s still better than the Kenny/Jane clisterfuck in season 2.(I watched your season 2 cut content video and the game would’ve been so much better if they just went with they had originally. Overall though,I’d say Season 4 was really good besides the ending.
@sharkfrenzy213
@sharkfrenzy213 5 лет назад
This episode really played it safe regarding the choices and ending.
@Slickolas
@Slickolas 3 года назад
I honestly don’t understand how people can’t see that it is basically impossible especially with a large game like this to create completely different stories and outcomes throughout the seasons. It also wouldn’t create the same shared passion, love, and camaraderie among the many fans of the game if they all had an entirely different story and experience. Just take for example Lee’s death. The game would not have been nearly as successful or critically acclaimed if that didn’t happen and that’s why everything needs to thread around one central plot with central plot scenes that must happen no matter what to make the story make sense. - Thank you for listening to my Ted Talk
@LoriTheGirl
@LoriTheGirl 5 лет назад
I absolutely love your stuff, I’m excited for the TFS cut content video. Take your time with it, I’m sure most of us are willing to wait as long as it takes for it. Can I ask about the status about the 3 part The Wolf Among Us cut content series? Will it continue after your TFS content video, or are you done with it for now?
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
I think I'm done with it, sorry. It was when TWAU2 was soon to be coming out and I thought they might incorporate some of the cut stuff from the first game to the second but now that it's been cancelled my drive to finish is kinda low. I won't say never but it's unlikely.
@LoriTheGirl
@LoriTheGirl 5 лет назад
Oof. Thank you for the response.
@Phobeyozos
@Phobeyozos 5 лет назад
Really hope you continue to do more videos in which you are talking and discussing man 🙏🏻 including this next cut content vid you are making. It’s interesting hearing what you have to say rather than reading it. I’d love to see more from you other than the walking dead as well, so I’m sticking around for sure.
@michealjacksonsinnocent2488
@michealjacksonsinnocent2488 5 лет назад
Am I the only one who wishes arvo and mike took over lily and mikes role
@watamelon7616
@watamelon7616 5 лет назад
There's a plot hole where the axe is used to gut the walker and AJ uses that same axe to cut off Clem's leg but wouldn't she still be infected? What about the blood loss? I'm not complaining because Clem lived in the end.
@robbyg1232
@robbyg1232 4 года назад
as much as it would suck i would have preferred Clem to have been killed instead of the really inconsistent walker bite time lapse with all the questions about how the bite and infection takes hold, also how AJ dragged her back in one piece and stopped her from bleeding out without applying a tourniquet. But they wanted a feel good ending i guess so they just magic her back to life with a pair of crutches. maybe they want to use her for season 5 if they ever make it.
@NiallJ
@NiallJ 4 года назад
Binge-watch complete! Keep up the awesome work man, looking forward to seeing what your future videos hold :)
@YouYubeEnjoyerNum1
@YouYubeEnjoyerNum1 5 лет назад
I completely agree with your point about pacing. I feel like Episode 1 was better than every other episode in terms of that, but it was also the best executed episode (animations, facial expressions and etc.), probably because it was completed back when Telltale was still a full company. But I felt like this Season was completely different from all the other ones, there was so much filler talking.. it was unbearable for a lot of people, including me (and notably, pewdiepie, a fan of the series since the first season).
@theroyalwraith791
@theroyalwraith791 2 года назад
I can’t lie, I really disliked the ending. I just can’t overlook how little sense Clem’s death made. I’m not super knowledgeable about the series, so maybe I’m wrong, but I was under the impression that amputation needed to happen very quickly for one to survive a bite. Reggie’s dialogue back in Season 2 implied that amputation needed to happen almost immediately, and this is later supported by the fact that Clem can choose to chop off Sarita’s arm as soon as she is bit. I doubt she would have done this if they had a time frame of over 15 minutes. I think the most I could believe someone could make it is 5 minutes. Not only is the walk to the barn likely around 15 minutes, but the scene in the barn itself is another 5 to 10 minutes. Combined with the change in Clem’s complexion, it is impossible to believe that she wasn’t infected. The only other explanation for this is blood loss, which if it was that bad then chopping off her leg would have almost certainly killed her. I’m then expected to believe that AJ then was able to stop the bleeding, cauterize the wound, and then get them both back to the school, which is just not happening. Not only does it not make logical sense, but it doesn’t feel very fitting narratively either, at least in my eyes. There was so much foreshadowing for Clem’s death, and it paired well with how they set up AJ and Clem’s dynamic to be similar to her dynamic with Lee. The story seemed like it was going to come full circle. Sure, it would have been predictable, but it would at least make sense and would feel fitting with themes of the series. Honestly, I think it would have been cool if there were multiple endings, but they were entirely dependent on what you had said to AJ in the prior episode. Imagine if in her final moments, just before she could tell AJ what to do, Clem lost consciousness, and AJ would decide what to do based on what she said. He’d either put her down, leave her to turn, or, the really messed up option, decide to stay with Clem and allow himself to be turned by her. It really would have solidified the idea that AJ is what you shaped him to be. Imagine if they had tried this ending with Season 1. It would have taken all of the emotion out of the ending, and I am confident in saying that the game wouldn’t be remembered nearly as fondly. No one liked seeing Lee die, but it was necessary for his arc to feel impactful. He started the game in handcuffs, and (possibly) ended it in them. The same is true of Clem. She started her journey as a scared child sleeping in a barn, and ends it as an adult, comforting a scared child in a barn, before going to sleep one final time. I understand a lot of people wanted Clem to live, and I would have been okay with it if they just never had her get bit in the first place. The tagline of the series is literally “Still not bitten.” If you’re going to have her get bit, then why half ass it? With all of the foreshadowing, and with how little sense the ending makes, I honestly believe that Clem’s death was intended by Telltale, but was altered when Skybound came in to finish it, likely wanting to play it safe and not piss off the fans. To my understanding, Episode 3 was pretty much finished when Telltale closed, while Episode 4 was still in an earlier stage of development. I think Episode 4 would have played out mostly the same, except for the ending, where AJ would make it back to the school after Clem’s death. Perhaps the others would bury her there, and AJ would soon after find her hat in the river. It would be a bittersweet end far more fitting of the series. As bad as it was at times, at least Season 3 understood that you can’t have a happy ending without some kind of cost. Clem’s death isn’t the only issue I have with the episode. For one, I find it strange that the school and its characters play such a minor role in the final episode when it is supposed to be Clem’s new home. I understand that the plot is about them making it back home, but that doesn’t excuse half of the characters from the school doing literally nothing in the episode. I think the group should have either stayed together throughout, or have them all separated at the beginning and then find them throughout the episode (and then maybe have Clem and AJ get separated from the rest near the end). Maybe we could have gotten a scene that changes depending on your choice from the last episode, either capturing Lily and deciding what to do with her, or having a more in depth conversation between James and the group about AJ. That’s another problem I see with the episode. James’ character feels like he does a complete 180 for no reason. Sure, the signs were there that he had doubts about you with how you raised AJ, but he was always portrayed as pretty tolerant of others and their beliefs, such as how he understands when you are forced to kill some of the walkers in the woods. I didn’t expect him to try to take away what is essentially her child. I liked James as a character because he felt almost like a parallel to Chuck from Season 1. Whereas Chuck warned Lee that Clem needed to learn to survive, James was fully aware that AJ was a survivor, and warned Clem to make sure AJ keeps his morals in check. It’s another instance of a parallel between Season 1 and 4. It’s a shame, because I honestly enjoyed Episodes 1-3. They had some pretty cringey dialogue at times, but that juvenile tone fit the story well. For what they’re worth, it felt like the people making them actually cared, and then Episode 4 just completely drops the ball. If other people enjoy the ending, that’s great, but for me not only does it not live up to what it could have been, but I can’t really even enjoy it for what it was. Of course, hindsight is 20/20, but if it weren’t for Episode 3 being as good as it was, I probably would wish that the game never got finished at all.
@ashandesilva4622
@ashandesilva4622 5 лет назад
I definitely enjoyed the episode, but I was slightly disappointed that we didn’t get closure on Christa (maybe even Arvo and Mike also), I was thinking maybe she would be in that group of survivors mentioned at the end. Also why didn’t we encounter Lee again? I dont see why they had him cameo in the 3rd episode and not the last
@skywalker617
@skywalker617 5 лет назад
I basically agree with everything you said i think all the other episodes were so much more exciting than this one another guy pointed out in the comments all of the writing problems to that i agreed with but one of my biggest gripes is the fact that they left out to make it feel like more can be done now im not mad that they could do more with this game but im sorta off on the fact that if they were gonna keep clem alive why tf did she need to lose her leg? Ik its better than her being dead but you basically made her deadweight in a world where mobility is very important i get that she might not move from that school at all but its the walking dead eventually something might happen i cant see her being deadweight the whole time with a bunch of kids who would easily get killed if someone ran up on them who was just as armed as lillys last group but i think im going to deep into as if they are gonna make more all ik is if they do i hope they retcon the bite and leg coming off cause if they do another one based around clem she better be playable we all knew what happen when they tried to make a season without a playable clem plus i felt season 2 had the best options when it came to endings
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
I wanted to mention the whole leg issue somewhere in my video but I pretty much agree. Ericson has quite a few cripples now. If another attack happened, there's no way any of them would live and that's a major reason I disliked the raider nonsense. Better hope the warring going on in Richmond doesn't find it's way to Ericson, or they're fucked. I dislike the idea that Clementine isn't mobile as she was either. This is the last game though so any unanswered questions will forever be unanswered and it's basically canon that nothing bad will ever happen (probably) but it doesn't really give you the feeling of there being a hopeful future, which is something the season really needed.
@skywalker617
@skywalker617 5 лет назад
InColdBlood exactly thank you basically what i was thinking just felt like the story was not done or didn’t have that good of an ending as it should have
@skywalker617
@skywalker617 5 лет назад
InColdBlood disappointed this episode wasn’t longer either should’ve been the longest with atleast 4 hours of gameplay or 3
@aidan3768
@aidan3768 4 года назад
I agree with the poor placement of the flashback seen at the ranch, I went from crying to trying not to die back to crying.
@willrigby8202
@willrigby8202 5 лет назад
Better than you'd expect for a game cancelled with only two episodes released.
@ZaneBlake25
@ZaneBlake25 4 года назад
i really didn't like episode 4, the ending was not what i was hoping for, just like he said, it should have been clem putting her hat on the table and last scene with her, the seasons few episodes, i should have been 5 episodes, just like it always was, for me, season 1-2 still the best ones
@robbyg1232
@robbyg1232 4 года назад
wish we got some sort of resolution with mike and bonnie and even christa but i guess its over and we will never know.
@rebeccasimpson-wallack2144
@rebeccasimpson-wallack2144 4 года назад
I respect your opinion and I get it- but I actually think this was a flawless ending. Because AJ is his own person. And it goes to show that no matter what you do as a parent, your children will be who they are. I thought that worked so well.
@lulukomadori9651
@lulukomadori9651 5 лет назад
least lily was shown, meanwile christa no where to be seen. and was never told why clem didn't return to javier
@viewbob4755
@viewbob4755 5 лет назад
what did you think of eddie?
@XzBiTCLAN
@XzBiTCLAN 5 лет назад
I thought that the ending was fantastic, I can understand people maybe not liking the way she survives but just remember what she went through, her parents died at the age of 8/9, she lost so many friends by the time she was hardly a grown adult. Clementine as a character deserves this ending and also it makes everyone optimistic as this opens so many doors to DLC with the caravan crew. I would love to see them continue Javis story as I think he’s a great character but we will just have to wait and find out
@lilchad-ig1oj
@lilchad-ig1oj 5 лет назад
She’s not even a adult yet shes 16 still 2 more years until then
@pugtie4695
@pugtie4695 5 лет назад
I agree with the flash back it should have been at the beginning heck thats how I thought it would play out do to the veg shots in the trailer.
@davidbell2607
@davidbell2607 5 лет назад
I feel if they where going to end her story, she would've died in the barn. I do doubt that she'll be a playable character in the future though😔
@Marie-vg8iq
@Marie-vg8iq 5 лет назад
I think most people are just attached to this series when it’s not even really good. The only good season is season 1 honestly... I cried so hard when Lee died, when Clem “died” I didn’t cry at all. And then when she came back I didn’t cry tears of joy, I was more annoyed than anything else bc it’s just so unrealistic. And I didn’t like AJ as a character that much either. Everything after season 1 just isn’t that good and I’m surprised when people actually say they liked the other seasons 🤔 I honestly don’t understand how
@SnowDreamFlake
@SnowDreamFlake 5 лет назад
Could you make some kind of a breakdown video about all seasons, where you compare all seasons with each other and where you tell what you liked and disliked about each season, which one is your favourite/least favourite and why and maybe a breakdown video about different twdg characters, where you analyze their actions and personality and talk about your thoughts on that. Maybe even about underrated characters like Ben and Chuck for example, or about some deep, complex characters like kenny. There is already a video named "We don't talk about kenny" on youtube where someone is talking about his own interpretation about ken as a character, i would have loved if someone would make the exact opposite kind of thing, with a different point of view. Also.. i remember that you mentioned somewhere (i think that was in your comment section) long time ago, that someone you know explained why it would be out of character for Clementine going alone at the End of Season 2, but couldn't find this kind of video and maybe you could explain that with your own words in the Comparison video about all seasons i mentioned. That was all just some ideas of mine, if you are not a fan of this ideas, that's totally fine. :) anyway.. looking forward to your next video!
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
This is actually what I want to do after my "cut content" video for tfs. Going to talk about Season 1 first, then probably do a video on every season in detail, talking about the game as a whole (I'd rather do long form videos than like 8 parts for 1 video) talking about the characters, the games development, point out neat details and missed opportunities and that sort of thing like what you mentioned. There's some other stuff I want to do as well like a video on a theory I have. I've also always wanted to respond to that Kenny video because I think it's really manipulative (I even wrote half a script in response which I'll get back to at some point). A big part of my my s2 video (when i get around to making it) will definitely cover Clementine as a character, though it might warrant it's own video, I haven't decided yet. Either way. I've definitely got a lot of stuff planned. ok I accidentally misread your comment just now about the Clementine thing, the video I was referring to was this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7o_Y1FKQctw.html he brings up a lot of good points, but it's an overwhelmingly negative video and I don't agree with everything in it. Might be worth skipping towards the end to hear what he says about it.
@SnowDreamFlake
@SnowDreamFlake 5 лет назад
@@InColdBloodTTG it's really great to read, that you are so passionate about this game, you invest a lot of time, thoughts and work on it, it tells me that you really have fun by making this kind of videos, and the best part of it: You actually share all of that with us, which is much appreciated! So thank you once again! I'm already excited about this whole "project" and nice to hear that you had the same ideas. "manipulative" is exactly what it is. Because it tend many young people to think that the guys interpretation and opinion about kennys character is the only right way you should see him. So many times i read comments on other videos, where people showed other people the link to the kenny video with the argument: "Watch the video and you will know why kenny is bad" , " why shooting him is right" or something like that, like there is only one single thought you should believe in and no others, you know? While it is clearly ONLY an individual opinion and point of view from a random guy and not an official statement from the game writers or developers. Opinions from people can't be right or wrong, you can just agree or disagree with them. Opinion only means the individual way you see things, it doesn't mean facts. You decide by yourself how you wanna see it. And thank you for the video i watched the second half of it. And i agree, he made some good points, like the second opportunity to shoot kenny (after kenny can kill jane) was dumb, even if you hated the fact that he killed Jane and you found out that the baby is actually alive, you can still leave kenny at the car and going with Aj alone, so you don't have to accept kenny by your side if you don't want to, so there was no need for the second chance to shoot kenny after the fight was over. But i don't agree with the guy in the video, that Season 2 was "bad". But that's another subject.. ^^
@crazygamesreview5751
@crazygamesreview5751 5 лет назад
*It's cool*
@marjlyn
@marjlyn 2 года назад
I'm very late and I know you're done with this channel but it'd be nice if you could make more reviews on the other Walking Dead episodes. Like obviously you've already played them and know what happens, but I find your reviews/opinions so interesting to watch. (I'm trying to think of more Walking Dead content you can make so you won't leave us. 😅😔)
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 2 года назад
Thanks, I initially wanted to do a whole season by season review. It seemed like a lot of work and after doing all my cut content videos I was a bit exhausted by the end. I feel like some of these other videos that review or talk about the games don't really do it justice. Next year will be TWD Season 1's 10th anniversary and It's a game that's near and dear to my heart so i'm likely to make a video on that, probably talking about what went right and how Lee as a character stands the test of time.
@Hulala706
@Hulala706 5 лет назад
Can you please make another cut content for final season ?
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
That'll be my next video.
@itsinkk6393
@itsinkk6393 4 года назад
The Walking Dead: The Final Season 7/10 'cause episode 4 felt rushed and the ending was silly could have been a bit better, seeing clementine alive didn't make me cry I wouldn't call this a masterpiece but I call it Solid Work
@stevevigilante9944
@stevevigilante9944 2 года назад
It's below s2 for me
@angelo8304
@angelo8304 4 года назад
I know it's late to be saying this, but the choice in the cave about trusting AJ. How could it be completely meaningless if it determines whether someone lives or not? You don't need to respond. I just want to point this out.
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 4 года назад
Because that's not what I said. I said all other choices leading up to it feel meaningless when all it comes down to the 'trust' choice. Everything you ever told AJ to say and do has no effect, you could treat him terribly all game but will respect you if you choose the 'trust' choice.. It's bad game design.
@angelo8304
@angelo8304 4 года назад
@@InColdBloodTTG Oh okay. My mistake. BTW, (you already know this) the atone or justified choice affects AJ's behavior for a little bit but it seems like he'll just just end up the same. Would be interesting to see him be comfortable with killing depending on your choices but as you can see...
@dieselxi-1193
@dieselxi-1193 5 лет назад
Hey InColdBlood, I like your channel and the videos you make, can you do a video about cut content in The Walking Dead The Final Season? I am sure there are a lot of unused files. Thank you so much, I appreciate your work.
@fullhousefrek
@fullhousefrek 3 года назад
The ending was the only thing I liked about the finale tbh.
@Zilock-rc1bw
@Zilock-rc1bw 5 лет назад
Now that the seasons over will you be doing a video on the cut content of the season?
@Ccrypto
@Ccrypto 5 лет назад
Will you do a cut content video on this? It'll be interesting
@mahira1659
@mahira1659 5 лет назад
How do you feel about the game files (Clems house textures for possible flashback) not being used? do you think Telltale originally had planned to use these?
@InColdBloodTTG
@InColdBloodTTG 5 лет назад
Probably not... but I'll be talking a little bit more about the original story in my next video and I don't think I was exactly wrong. You'll see.
@sfxgamer609
@sfxgamer609 5 лет назад
OMG NEW VIDEO AFTER LONG TIME
@sfxgamer609
@sfxgamer609 5 лет назад
OMG The next video is cut content thanks bro
@wetemup671
@wetemup671 5 лет назад
Cut content video gonna be lit
@Toucheeee
@Toucheeee 5 лет назад
Is there any scrapped content in final season?
@vatergagamehl6783
@vatergagamehl6783 5 лет назад
@InColdBlood can you tel me where you got ur profile pic from?
@alfonsorodriguez3432
@alfonsorodriguez3432 5 лет назад
Which game has a better sound track this game (all 4s) or the last of us
@ghoul7206
@ghoul7206 5 лет назад
i only sub to because of the beta in s1 and s2 and s3. i hope i can see more beta in s4. keep going bro. then do some beta in other interesting game like the last of us. or something.
@MadaraUchiha-zm6sm
@MadaraUchiha-zm6sm 5 лет назад
is you still gonna upload more coldblood
@venomousentertainment2461
@venomousentertainment2461 5 лет назад
Your voice sounds like Paul Prenter
@scottyh.thomson6557
@scottyh.thomson6557 5 лет назад
Are you still doing cut content?
@ahQtr2006
@ahQtr2006 5 лет назад
i didnt trust aj too and oh boy it was a shitfest
@redakted808s7
@redakted808s7 4 года назад
In my eyes you kinda have to give them slack for most of the season cause you know they kind of didn't have a company at that point
@stevevigilante9944
@stevevigilante9944 2 года назад
There's really no excuse if you bought this game. This shows why it's best to complete all the episodes before the game actually releases
@SamuelJohnsonYT
@SamuelJohnsonYT 5 лет назад
The 3rd episode was better than this
@ITSSNUPPY
@ITSSNUPPY 5 лет назад
YES! You're not DEAD! FINALLY I'VE BEEN WAITING!
@blackmanwhitesuit
@blackmanwhitesuit 4 года назад
Coming back here after getting through TLOU 2 and wow, the parallels are as thick as zombie blood. It's cool to see this new content as this channel has been jade mine of content for my TWD fixation. I'm sad this channel didn't take off but new TWD game coming out (Saints and Sinners) and this type of research applied to other games. I believe in you.
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