I took a two day handgun class with John Lovell and I remember I struggled to bend down to pick up my empty mags. At the time I was and still am following a Starting Strength program. My legs were sore from the squats and deadlifts the day prior. My two worlds collided then. Nice to see these guys cross paths.
This is one of the few things that I disagree with mark on, it’s called fitness not brokenness, at a certain point you should not be worried about 5lbs because eventually you’re gonna fuck your shit up like If you can deadlift 405 what’s the benefit of deadlift 455 when the risk is fucking your shit up in the process lol
This is the most productive podcast you've done, besides that one with Stan Efferding, which by the way, successfully got me doing more research on dieting and I'm now eating meat again. Like the guy said here, if you side step the ego a little bit and make some good points, it goes a lot further than with just an offensive, dismissive position with no explanation. You're also letting people talk more which of course is great.
Excellent podcast. We would also say that both Rip and John deal in industries where the vast majority of practitioners have a very over-inflated sense of their ability levels and what they believe is the 'right' way to do it. There are also a ton of people in the shooting industry and the strength training industry who are high level competitors/operators who have absolutely no idea how to teach. "Bona Fides does not equal relevance" - Will Petty, Centrifuge Training
I think many grapplers believe that strength equals large muscles and a lack of flexibility and mobility, which is not ideal for grappling. Many old school grapplers look at Marcelo Garcia, who regularly talks about how he never lifted while he was regularly competing in grappling... and so if it worked for him, it must work for everyone. About 1% of grapplers are legit competitive athletes, while the rest of us compete periodically to gauge our progress or never compete and just do BJJ because it's fun. I am a cop and both strength and grappling ability is important to me... I have to push disabled vehicles down highways, lift heavy things like trees or light poles that fall into the road or extremely obese people that fall down way more than I have to arrest violently resisting suspects. Both attributes are extremely beneficial and so I do them often (along with dry firing and live fire training at the range often). Anyway... great podcast by both of you. Rip, you've had two of my favorite people on recently (John and Stan) and nailed both podcasts... keep up the great work!!
@@jkennedy28 when you train bjj everyday multiple times like Marcelo Garcia you don't need to go to the gym or sometimes even have the ability to add more workload because you can't recover fast enough. Bjj classes usually have a long group warmup, calisthenics session with pushups squats etc and long training sessions with intense live rolling at the end. Live rolling is just like sprinting hard. You can't sprint hard everyday and lift hard. Its too much unless you don't have a life or job outside of training or have access to anabolics.
Mr. Monitor I am certainly not Marcelo Garcia and I think the majority of grapplers are nowhere near his skill level or train as often as he does. I was referring to the average BJJ practitioner, who trains a couple days a week for 1-2 hours a day.
@@jkennedy28 okay It was you that brought up Marcelo G in the first place🤪 I wasn't arguing about that. Was just pointing out why he can get away without lifting and probably doesn't have enough free time to add more training.
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It's almost impossible to hate John Lovell. He is the mild mannered decent guy, looks like a youth Pastor, or your favorite math teacher. ... and he can turn your head into a canoe rack with any number of weapons.
Not that John needs anyone else to defend him but maybe watch some of his videos first, then come back and edit your comments here. He is immensely loved for good reason. Wise, mature, smart, classy, and perhaps most of all funny as hell. His sense of humor is second to none.
"Functional training" is a plague in the BJJ industry. You will never see as many people doing tricks on Swiss balls as you will see in a BJJ gym, by the side of the mats.
Those days, "we count assholes" is the days we ain't got no humility....lol Humility is not to be confused with humiliation. In my own quest for humility Ive been humiliated until I become teachable a friggin strange paradox... Like watchin skinny kids out lift me in everything sometimes..lol
I came down here hoping to see John joking around. I'm really disappointed John. Then again we could probably have more fun over on your channel. Good talk with Rip though.
@@joshuatate5671 no hate whatsoever mark is a leading authority on strength and conditioning. I believe his system is the best most practical all round system for strength be it sports specific or general population. I also think he doesn’t understand the standpoint of martial arts coaches with regards to S&C
You don't have to build a huge muscular body to get really good at bjj. But....I don't know anyone who would get worse at bjj because they got stronger at the gym.
James Western Absolutely. Nice guy and all. He’s well read and wants us all to know about it. Comes off as pretentious at times. Needs to be more self deprecating
Yall are all dumb fucks. Hes a man whos seen war over and over again. Seen life and death to furthest of both spectrums. Maybe none of you are as well read as either of these men