@@MachineGunMouth That scene when Coliccho threatens to beat the crap out of some 10 y/o when Hamsterdam is finally torn apart... and Bunny gives him the glare.
The look on Bodie's face when McNulty says, "Smart kid," is touching. You can tell Bodie genuinely received and respected his words (in that moment, at least).
Carver started out like Colicchio & Herc too. Remember when they couldn't find where the lil hopper ran off & he had no one to talk to for information, he stood on top of that car & yelled "We are going to beat you longer & harder than you beat your own dicks"... Just thankfully Bunny Colvin had an influence on Carver.
“Police officers should try to be Carver”? Are you fucking high? He was by far one of the worst. Always power tripping and with a sense of entitlement regarding respect, whilst having his head too far up his ass to understand that it’s earned, not owed. Plus, he suffered from LMS, too. That character - and the man who played it - were both absolutely fucking horrible.
I always kind of thought Carver was as bad as any of the cops. He did have a hunger for climbing the ranks that made him act a certain way though. He became Sgt by going to the Depty Ops behind Daniel's back in season 1 then used Colvin's advice as a way to try to move up again. Inside he was probably no better than Herc or Callechio . The part was acted really well. When he says "where's the love Bodie" it seems forced. He probably wanted to smack him around like he would have un season 1.
This scene is a great example of how McNulty is “natural police”. His mix of banter and seriousness is so natural. Carver is on the way there, but it isn’t ingrained in him yet.
It's about building rapport, building relationships. If you can't engage people, you're not even a person to them and they aren't a person to you...just ideas and impressions.
There's a long lecture from Colvin to Carver at Season 3 Episode 10 7:45. "You ain't shit as a police" because Carver doesn't have informants or even friendly acquaintances in the community, unlike for example Bushy Top (McNulty). There are two short but important scenes in season three leading up to this harsh dressing-down. Episode 5 @ Colvin asks who the mid-level dealers are and Carver goes "I don't know... I didn't know I was supposed to be taking a census." Colvin scowls. Episode 6 @ Colvin asks which gangs are warring, all Carver knows is "gangs. Assholes who don't like each other." Colvin shakes his head as how useless Carver is. BUT in Episode 9 43:30 Carver moves a dead body to protect Colvin's free zone even though it's a stupid move that of course will be detected by forensics if not detectives. I conclude that the point of the Carver character is to illustrate the pattern of inept but hardworking and loyal police rising to the top ranks over better cops. Cite me in your college essays, any kids who use this! (end of many edits)
@@banyarling I think thats what Colvin teaches Carver. That Carver is a great solider, but a terrible police. After that we get to see Carver grow as a police rather than a soldier.
That look Bodie gives McNulty when McNulty calls him smart... great acting. The subtle facial expressions and eye movement. You can tell Bodie appreciated and need that compliment
That look in Bodie's eyes at 1:23. God damn that kid needed a father figure. He looks to Cutty with the same eyes in Season 3 and you can tell he yearns for the approval of Slim and Stringer. Really makes his character so much more tragic for me
Bodie is def one of the most tragic characters on The Wire. So much potential, and def needed a father figure, as you said. Was sad as fuck when he got popped.
Like how McNulty gives them an hours selling time, these guys are pawns at the bottom of the ladder, treat em with a bit of respect and it pays dividends later.
This is one of the best scenes in the whole show. Bodie low key laughing at Carver's joke then smiling when McNulty calls him "smart kiddo" ... it's all just gold.
How the hell did Carver become one of my favorites on The Wire? He was such a piece of crap in the first half of the show (just like Herc) and then he starts to turn it around when Hamsterdam becomes a thing until finally, he becomes an effective, moral cop. One of the darndest things to happen on this show.
His arc is one of the best, along with Bubbles. We watch one dude make lieutenant and another dude walk up some stairs. Those are the little victories.
Bunnie reached him just as he did Naemond this show is all about the lost and found some make it some don't Herc didn't he became part of the system who don't care just trying to make money and exploit the situation like everyone else. That's why he ends up with the slimy lawyer
@@deb7457 Man herc only did that cause it's was his fault that led to that little fella being change into a corner boys into the system so he didn't really do anything herc character showed how some cops don't have any desire to really do good but just get a check he was a Valchek in the making that never made it.
Bunny was the greatest thing that ever happened to Carver, as well as Daniels. Daniels got the ball rolling for him to be good police and Bunny sealed the deal.
This scene is a prime example if how Carver grew up throughout the show. Compare his attitude here to season 1 when him and Herc spent all their days thumping heads. now hes finally good police by this point. he took Colvin's words to heart.
Everyone says it's all Bunny... but I think Kima was the one to turn the worm, and make him even consider using his head instead of his fists. Bunny and Daniels certainly had huge influences on him, but I don't think he would have even taken notice, if Kima's approach to police work hadn't made him a little bit embarrassed by the was he acting.
"You send him up to Lemmel next month and I'll make sure Ms. Davis puts him in remedial math." That's my old school! Ms. Davis was my cooperating teacher when I first started. It's closed now, but most of the videos I've posted were shot there.
One of the best scenes of the whole series. Definitely one of my favorites. Sidenote: I think many of the real-life police in "inner cities" with multiple excessive force allegations have the same hostile attitude and mindset as Colicchio.
Sloth from The Goonies Don't know who said anything about race, but okay lol. I, for one, kind of beg to differ on that (it's kind of easy to beat up on people you view as subhuman or inferior to you), but I don't really disagree with your point as a whole.
oRuTRa45 I'm just making the point that people are now trying to use race as a common motive for brutality. Their is virtually no evidence to support this, all races have been victims. I think we should be focusing on the police culture of brutality, rather than unproven race issues,
***** Very good answer but you negated the existence of unquantifiable factors. No police shooting occurs in exactly the same fashion. Is the suspect armed? How is he behaving? Is the officer trigger happy or does he harbour certain prejudices? The information may suggest that race is an issue but correlation does not necessarily imply causation. I think we can assume race probably is a factor, but it would be naive to suggest that it's nothing more than an assumption.
It is partially a race thing, though. Regardless of the officer's race, their primary targets are young black men. If officers were to start predominantly harassing young white college kids who were loitering about, you think they wouldn't get their ears chewed off by their captains about it later? Cops (regardless of race) tend to focus their efforts on black folks because that demographic has much of the least political capital to have their complaints heard.
I loved the character development in this show. Pretty much all of the characters grew, but Carver grew the most. Followed swiftly by Bodie. He was a real nasty piece of work in season 1. By season 4 you could tell he was a real nigga, and a righteous hustler.
+David White (Mr. No Chill) (Spoilers) I was surprised by how big of an impact it had on me when Bodie left the show. He was my favourite character in the entire show and I completely agree with you.
I don't think he was a 'nasty piece of work' but more so, just venting pent up aggression in a self destructive rage like most of them do. Even his grandmother said when he came to her as a child, she could tell he was dead inside. His parents died and then his older brother. He was acting out and was a lost, angry kid looking for the approval of the local gangsters he admired (Stringer, Bey, Avon, etc.). Hothead and temperamental, as one most likely would be in his case, but I would not say he's a 'nasty piece of work', as in he's some sort of flat out vile, evil person who did a complete 360 into some stand up guy (as we see he still has those temperaments). He just grew up and got a new position and new authority but he was still the same Bodie. lol
This scene was one of those classics where this show was really firing. So much screen chemistry from good long form storytelling and some serious acting talent bringing it to life.
The opening scene of S1E1 The Wire is McNulty talking to a witness and empathizing, making it a human conversation and not an interrogation. He always had the knack for people and a moral code. Carver had to learn from Kima and Bunny, but he got there too. Doesn't matter if you're a natural or you have to work up to it, being great at your job is where you need to be. This intersection of McNulty, Carver, and Bodie (who needed cops in his life that were friendly instead of scary) is not accidental of course.
This scene was amazing. There is a, if not mutual respect, then at the very least an understanding that they are both just out there trying to survive the hand life dealt. It's crazy though, go back to that corner it'd be nothing but ghosts. Lex dead, Lil Kevin dead, Bodie dead.
Good thing they promoted Carver and not that moron Colicchio, even though Carver didn't seem like much of a cop at the start. Kind of surprising since they usually promote the WRONG person (ie, Herc, freaking Valchek who even David Simon said was the only character without any redeeming qualities!).
+Colonel Hart the reason Carver got promoted despite not being incompetent was because he had Bunny, then Daniels, looking out for him. Mainly Daniels, I think
Something about McNulty commanded respect on the street. They sensed his intelligence and toughness...He gave less of a crap then they did and though a people person, wasn’t co-dependent. I think they also sensed he was sort of a rebel, like them...Natural 👮♀️
notice the constant tension between the crew and carver/colicchio - it's not because the crew isn't friendly or they haven't had their share of moments (especially bodie and carver). it's that even though carver's cracking jokes, looking familiar and chummy with the cops is a death sentence, hence the weaker response to carver's joking from the crew. notice bodie trolls colicchio because he knows he's an easy target - you have to reinforce the rules of the game and that they still exist, and to remind the crew that cops are still cops. carver's still kind of new to this community policing bit, and it shows in the way he openly says "who you going to talk to when the shit goes down" in front of the crew before he gets in the car, basically calling all of those kids potential snitches. bad move. mcnulty knows this so instead of trying to directly build a rapport, he points out an instance in which bodie outsmarted the system to give him more credibility amongst his crew. he also enforces the order to shut down business for the day, reinforcing that he's still the police and they aren't on good enough terms to get a pass - effectively protecting bodie's life and putting to rest any suspicion that bodie might be an informant or getting special treatment for testimony. mcnulty is incredible police.
great point, i think bodie also was aware so he said good evening to collichio because he knew it would get that sort of angry response thus setting things to the norm, Lex even relaxes and calms down once collichio curses them out because its the norm and theres no danger naymore
Wrong Carver is putting it in all they’re heads that they can all potentially snitch on each other therefore making them suspicious of each other and not him. Bro you obviously ain’t ran the streets.
Tony was only in it to kick down doors and rough people up. Violence goes down, nobody for him to arrest and rough up, he gets angry. The worst kind of cop.
That look bodie gives mcnulty. He’s just a kid who needs a father. God the character depth in this show. U gotta watch it twice-one for the dialogue and second time for all the non verbals u missed the first time.
The slight message of the wire was so great. Carver tries forcing respect when mcnulty shows up and gives it to bodie then tell him to move on. In the end mcnulty is who they respect not carver
Carver gets it that you gotta know your beat, who's out on it, everything. The fact that he even knows Reese be the one that messes up the count shows how deep he is in.
Carver's comments to his partner stemmed directly from the mentorship of Bunny from the lecture he gave him about leadership, where he drew up comparisons to Carver's busting heads mentality to warfare. Which was a great scene unto itself. That was a great callback from some very encompassing, writing.
Despite all the bad shit that happened in the series, it was really rewarding to see characters grow and mature over time: Bodie goes from a hotheaded punk to a man who can see the big picture, and Carver goes from a self-serving opportunist to a truly exemplary leader and police officer.
We used to have a police officer like McNulty way back in the day. He knew that the so called war on drugs was bullshit and used to tell us to split from our spot when the station got too many complaints. Needless to say, he didn't last that long. What replaced him was a pyscho cop.
"Bust every head, who're you gonna talk to when the shit happens?" No matter what was actually intended with that line, I choose to believe that Carver goes to Bodie whenever he needs marriage counselling.
mcnulty loving the entrapment is so perfect for mcnulty, he plays the game but hates how its established, if bodie is able to get away using the lawyers own bullshit, thats perfect, you'd think mcnulty is all about catching the criminal but its more playing the system and winning
The wire is fucking awesome. Carver knows all their names because of what Bunny Colvin told him in season 3, that he wasn't a cop worth a shit. When Carver tells the other cop, who you gonna talk to when the shit goes down, that was exactly what Colvin asked him and Carver couldn't tell him anything
When I was a cab driver it was a bit like this. I knew the cops and all the fiends and criminals alike. I rode a thin line between the two. Was actually the craziest job ive had.
Phillip Pirowkowski Carver. He said it in an interview. Something like “I auditioned for Stringer Bell. And obviously wasn’t fit for the role. So they called me up and asked me to come in again for Carver. This time a threw a few more “fuck bombs” in there and got the role” hahah
I think this is the first scene with Carver on the street after the big lecture from Colvin. Those two scenes together are perfect examples of The Wire's greatness.
Naaa he doesn’t mean who’s gunna snitch when he says “who are you gunna talk to?” Since season 1 it’s been about the rapport mcnulty and the team has with the people on the street, you can’t just be an enemy, people can talk without snitching or testifying
@EJWKnight lol the Pit is gone cause the towers fell. & Bodie is standing on a weak corner not cause there's less junkies but cause Marlo's organization has pushed him into a weaker spot. Without the Barksdales, Bodie can't do nothing. damn boy you must be still in season 1
What's sad is that Marlo's crew pretty much took out all of these guys...Bodie's crew, I mean. Bodie, a little Kevin and Lex -- all dead under Marlo's orders. At least Reesy was still breathing (hopefully at least) by the series end.
