To see a man ask his former adversary for permission to raise his child so that he can give him a better life is so profound and beautiful. The Wire is in the top 5 shows I've seen in my lifetime.
@@zero1188 nah, in one piece a man asked his former adversary the final request of him raising his child out of respect and knowing he was gonna be executed. Roger asked Garp to raise Ace, not Garp asking Roger if he could raise Ace. One Piece is definitely the best story still currently being told though 🤙
Luis Capellan he can't be built for the streets & be soft @ the same time fam, can't have both. Dee did things that went against his morality, the show actually portrayed his character that way.
@Ram1 Only1 you can be street tough and be "soft" at the same time. Seen it from many a gangsta/street dude who have kids/family. They can be the most cold hearted of people in the street, shoot someone and not think twice about it. However, when it comes to their family, their kids, they will listen to reason. They will do any and everything to protect them and insulate them from the life of the streets because they know that while this is the path they went down, it doesn't have to be the same for their kids.
Luis Capellan Dee was not built for the street his heart just wasn’t in it. He was capable of putting in work but he had a conscious and all the bad shit he did bothered him. Which is why he wanted out. Naymond was just soft overall and had no grit in him
Ludo045 bro your trash. And no you ain’t gonna get me all lashing out. First he was going to send him out there because that’s all he knew. That’s all that whole family knows. He didn’t know that there was a way out of that and breaking a cycle. The game is the game but wee didn’t know that Colvin was a way out. The fact that you don’t see that, you’re straight garbage. Troll ass bitch.
@@Ludo045 that is the wisdom from Wee Bay... listening to what Bunny had to say and acknowledge the opportunity to save his son from the very game that sent him to prison and killed others
@@Ludo045 it's funny reading a post from someone who can't type, spell, or form a sentence...yet has the audacity to call others stupid. Thanks for the laugh!
@Mr. 215 aside form the fact that this man doesn't actually exist, and his character is a result of reading and acting out a script, you may be right to judge someone like this but Nobody is the villain in their own story. The streets raised a lot of people. And I'm sure they know what they do is wrong but to them it's justified because they had it hard and we're forced to be tough. Anyways I'm certain that no matter who you are. Where you're from or what you're doing. Giving up your child to a stranger, isn't a choice made lightly
I love how Bey's body language when Colvin says he wasn't made for the corners. Wee-Bey breaks eye contact and pulls back. It cuts him deep, since he knows its true. To hear another in the game see it too, is hard, but Bey accepts it.
The key moment is when Bunny says Naimond could be out there in the world “in a way that didn’t happen for you and me.” He shows what connects the two men despite being on opposite sides of the law. That’s when Bey’s body language shifted from defensive to curious.
Agreed, and to me this scene is the interpretive key to the whole series: "You want to fix the streets? Ask the streets for permission." Colvin's humility and his willingness to treat Wee Bey with respect changes everything.
+jetshockey5 i hear what you are saying but for people like us that grew up in the hood, projects, blocks, estate whatever things like this bring us peace in a sense that there is always hope. respect
+Tixxx Tixxx I don't think he or Stringer and Avon were completely sociopathic. Wee bay was a product of his environment. He did what it took to get ahead and life and followed the orders of his master's. Considering he had been raised from a young lad in the middle of it is it any surprise he was completely desensitised to it? Marlo, Chris and Snoop on the other hand? They literally killed people for no reason.
People like Bey don't realize how useless their wrongdoings were until they go to prison for life, because they have ample time to think over life. The crimes they commit while free seem normal and conventional to them because of how fast they had to grow up to survive in a famine environment. Life goes 10 times faster when growing up in the hood in contrary to growing up in a middle/upper class neighborhood for those reasons alone.
Marlo was a sociopath. Kernard was a sociopath. Mikey Palmice from the Sopranos was a sociopath. Wee bey grew into a hard murderer, but he wasn't a sociopath.
I dunno, the way he shrugs off that dead woman at the party is pretty sociopathic, not to mention what they did to Brandon. Anyway it's not a black/white sociopath or not sociopath issue, many people have tendencies of personality disorders but wouldn't quite meet a diagnosis.
I love the way Bunny engages with Wee bey on street level and uses the term 'we' as in the collective throughout the conversation. Here was an excellent community cop at his very best
D’angelo was one of my favorites... His ideology on how the game should be with out all the violence, is what I appreciated about him. Unfortunately, his demise was proof that the two, selling dope and violence, correspond with one another.
wasn't about that so much. "the game is the game" and all that, but he made him acknowledge they weren't talking about that, they were talking about his son
I love this scene, because Colvin is speaking to "Mr. Brice" as a man, as an equal, even though opposite sides of the law. Colvin came with respect and love, and Wee-Bey saw that shit. I also loved when his bitch wife was getting snippy about it, and Wee-Bey put her in check. "Man come up in here saying my son can be any damn thing he pleases." "Yea anything but a soldier". "Well look at me up in here, why the fuck would anybody want to do this if they can be something else." That, to me, was very touching/emotional because Bey being locked up for life, would obviously enjoy having a son to visit, etc, but he knew it was in his SON'S best interest to go with Colvin and have a better life. Wee Bey made the SELFLESS decision because despite whatever else, he was a good father who loved his son. I think Colvin's speech really got to him when he told him that Naymond just ain't made for those corners, but he could go a lot of other places in life, better places. Just two men who been through a lot of the same things having a conversation about a boy they love and care about and obviously Bey agreed and that's why he had his son go live with Colvin. The writing on this show is just brilliant. It knows how to evoke emotions.
Hey dude, I'm pretty sure his son would still visit him even after being adopted by Colvin. I don't think they'd burn their bridges completely, and Colvin probably befriended Bey to some extent.
A big reason why I absolutely love watching The Wire is because the show is as real as it gets for most of the time. This scene is an example of that, the characters act, talk and think as human beings and this gives you mature and interesting dialogues. The Wire is the most mature and intelligent show I've ever watched.
In the midst of a depressing season with depressing outcomes, is this triumphant scene where there is a that shed of light in this world we need to keep going.
Colvin had the gift of understanding a situation and talking in a way to diffuse any escalation in tension. He did this well a number of times: when he addressed his men as a major - in their introduction to hamsterdam - and in his homily to Carver, about community policing, who changed considerably because of it. He capped all of that with this masterful delivery of empathetic oratory in a potentially explosive confrontation with Weebey.
Mkc N lol no I think you totally misinterpreted my comment I use hero in the terms of a person who is heroic IN REAL LIFE, not in an artificial genre sense; Colvin is admirable because he is as limited as any normal person and ultimately has nothing to gain and a lot to lose, but does the right thing anyway. I mean, damn them criminals all on the wrong side of the law! Cutty what a bastard, no redeeming qualities jail 'em all! (that was sarcasm, which I note so as to pre-emptively avoid a second misinterpretation).
Colvin was one of the most underrated characters in the show. He had a duty to do what was the right thing to do, and was totally selfless. It's the definition of heroic.
1:05 - Amazing how Colvin found common ground...’Our kind’..’You and I’...Weeby initially looked at Colvin wearily and adversarily, but as soon as Colvin found that common ground you could see Weeby’s defenses start to come down. He also pointed out there shared history which Weeby could relate with. He started to intrinsically trust Colvin, sensing Colvin had his son’s best interest at heart.
I am so proud to say I got the same chance Namond got... Proud that folks like Wee Bey existed in my world to force me to know dont go their path. Damn this show captured so many gritty scenes and kept it 100. This is one of those scenes...hits so close to home for me. The hood is rough but thankfully folks do exist who will look out for you--even if they doing/did wrong. Im proud of Wee Bey.
1:32 I love that little moment. All the barriers between them were gone in that little bit of reminiscing. Back when they were kids, before they became cops or criminals or whatever path of life that they took.
During that exchange, Wee Bay makes eye contact with Carver for a split second before pulling back. World class acting and writing. This is the most powerful scene in all five seasons - these two men are deciding to make a real difference!
Bunny was a underrated character. Being real with Cutty helped set this whole meet up. He also put in a good word with that nurse who ended up with Cutty.
I gotta agree. I watch a lot of Wire scenes, but I always come back to this one. The look in Wee-Bey's eyes the whole time is some amazing acting. It's like Colvin is his conscience talking, telling him all the things he already knows deep down.
"You asking too much." "Yeah. But I'm asking." Bunny pulls no punches, and Wee-Bey respects that, plus they both see the future for Namond. Great scene.
If he was 15 years older, he would have been starting as a cop when they were starting out on the streets. Speaking for their respective trades, they were in the same cohort. Weebay even went into retirement at about the same time as Colvin.
He called him "Mr. Bryce"....Ultimate respect to me! Colvin was addressing him as his regular name vs his street side and that made Bey think because this was a cop showing him the upmost respect because Colvin also said "But i'm asking"....Bey knew as a cop that Colvin has the power to just take Namond if he wanted to but he gave Bey that respect as a father and as a man!
As much as I like your post, I’m doubtful over how much power Colvin has. He wasn’t in the police force by that point, and even if he was, a major doesn’t have the right to just take a kid off the streets. Social services trumps the cops in that case, just look at Carver’s situation with Randy.
@@uncclelocc The parent is endearing the welfare of a minor, Colvin could've definitely called DCSF on the mom. He already ran away after he got slapped, drugs in the house etc.
@@joejoiner8582 in the child would have ended up in the system... In people would have got murdered. A Killer/Enforcer like his Father with the Power of Avon would not tolerate child services. That's why the ex cop went at it the way he did.
I love how, even if these killers commit depraved acts and become totally dehumanized, most of them are still human, and are not totally beyond some positive contribution to society, if given the right chance (the exception: Marlo). It's obviously really hard for Wee-Bey to give up his gangster ideology and admit that under difference circumstances, he might have been different - and better - and in admitting that, to give the chance to be different and better to his son.
+Mkc N how about when they rolled that body up in a rug. He didn't seem like too nice of a guy then. D cared; he was horrified. If you call that weak fine; I call it being human, and Wee-Bey not giving a fuck was pretty dehumanized there. You probably just think Bey was a hero because the gangsters who followed him were so much worse, but that doesn't make him good.
this is my favorite scene of the whole damn show. namond becomes the exception that breaks the rule, the one ray of light peaking through the clouds. and it's beautiful that it comes down to this original decision; this old school, west baltimore understanding between a career-cop and a convicted murderer
Brilliant!! They clearly knew each other and grew up together, both being from the street! This reprises the idea of cycle! We can assume that Randy will grow up and become WeeBay and Naymond having an opportunity, will make something of himself...Colvin! Best show ever
yes, fantastic scene. colvin and wee-bey, 2 great characters, having a man-2-man talk about the future of 1 young man. colvin's 'but i'm asking' nails it!!
This was a POWERFUL scene from a truly great series. Wee Bey was always one of my favorite characters. He was streetwise and tough but he had an incredibly human side as well.
"West side we knew... is dead man." Most people can relate to the world changing too fast. Brilliant scenes like this is why The Wire is a critically acclaimed top 10 series of all time
Goes to show you, life doesn't deal you the cards you want. Randy was a good kid with a lot of potential but he got eaten by the system. I don't know if it's fair to say that Randy deserved being saved more than Naymond. Shouldn't we all be saved? Tragedy is life.
That actually broke my heart as well. It just shows how good these young men are and how little chance they have in their environment and circumstances. It's a damn shame. Those boys had so much potential and there's so much in the world to see and do, yet everyone but Namond got swallowed up by Baltimore.
Its interesting. The most spoiled kid and the one who benefitted the most off of the fruits of the streets was teh one who was saved, while the other kids all had terrible endings (dookie next bubs/drug addict, Chris - next Omar, Randy - foster system). Goes to show you how unfair life can be
Yeah, and it's nice we never had to see him die. I guess the way he took the fall for Hamsterdam is a kind of a death, but then he popped back up as a teacher along with Prez and I couldn't be happier. "Get on with it, motherfuckers"
@@Onigirli Colvin was an amazing character, as were all the main cast. I'm amazed at how this show could even make me like a guy like Wee-Bey so much, despite everything we know he's done.
The guys on this show who don't ever have to front or put on a show like there tough because every one knows they really are that tough; those are the ones who are actually able to make some reasonable decisions at times without having to worry about how it's perceived. Weebay giving up his son or even taking this meeting is a perfect example. Avon letting Cutty leave or half the shit Omar did also fit
The stare at the end has a compassionate intensity to it. Wee-Bey is checking for the sincerity in this man's eyes! Can he trust this man with his son? What a great scene.
Brilliant how he wins his trust, equating the two of them based on their shared experience, and making Namond out as someone better, someone who can move past all the shit. This way Wee Bay doesn't need to be defensive. He's not being accused of anything. He's not being belittled. And his son is being praised. But then he also presents the truth - that Namond doesn't have the hardness necessary for corner life. That he needs help to get away from all that. So now Wee Bay has to decide if he's a father or not.
They should have ended the series on this episode. This scene gets the whole story in 3 minutes. 2 guys, 2 jobs.... both on those corners in one way or another.
Look at the way he speaks to Weebay. He doesn't look down on Weebay, in fact he relates to him. Weebay shows resistance but Colvin still politey persists with patience and keeps a subtle tone in his voice after a little bit of humour. Beautifully powerful.
For real, I think that exchange at the end is my favorite moment of dialogue from the whole series. "You asking too much."..."Yeah, but I'm asking." So much packed into Colvin's character right there.
Wee-Bey realized that basically Bunny was Namonds new Dad and had to hand him over. However, he knew that Namonds life was going to be sparred and under Bunny he would go on to a better life. He handed him over because he trusted Bunny and knew he would still be able to see Namond, because Bunny would make sure of it. Sometimes the cops and the guys they arrest have a bond - even though Bunny probably beat up on Wee-Bye...’back in the day’...
The dialogues in The Wire are pure genius. Take this conversation for example, I challenge anybody to find waste in this conversation. It's just perfect. And the actors are just impeccable!
Stone cold killer and street cop showing mad respect for one another. Bunny Colvin was the conscience of this series. Even Bill Moyers once said that Colvin was his favorite character.
This show has dialogue that's almost too good and witty to be realistic but somehow it's executed in a way where you feel as if you're watching a real life conversation
Anyone notice how the top of the pane begins to blur as Bunny starts to get through to Wee Bey about his son? I thought it was meant to represent the division between the two characters and their worlds but it dissolves when they connect on a human level.
"Yeah but I'm askin" Wee bey knew right then what that meant. Not a lot of kids from that area got the opportunity Colvin was giving Namond. At least someone gives a shit about his son's future.
