This type of mini-PC rig is interesting to me. It's amazing how much can be packed into a small form factor and the power management is astonishing compared to even five years ago.
Love these reviews on these mini PC’s. I’m considering building one for myself. I haven’t been a PC gamer for 15 years now. How do these APU’s perform with War Zone ? Maybe could you test Warzone on one of your next builds.
I would like to see more of small factor/extreme small pcs that can game AAA or emulates within 30-60fps. Also would like to see a build under $500 that can game within that realm.
I’m not sure RDNA2 will push APU, APUs are really limited by memory bandwidth. The RDNA architecture did improve quality for the Steam Deck when compared to the AYA NEO 60%+ frames. But the reason we don’t see bigger jumps is mostly due to that, luckily RAM is moving pretty fast.. But I doubt RAM will hit GDDR5 bandwidth levels anytime soon.
The 6800 i got seems to be a lot more stable than the 5700 xt was at launch. I think the next apus will be phenomenal and I too am anxious as I know what happens when I get me hopes up!
Interesting little setup from Asrock... If I had this i would modify cover and put a beefy down draft air cooler on this 5700g. If I could buy the 5300g or use 3000g it would be a great media content/general use mini pc. Interesting and very useful video ETA Prime. It seems performance with the CPU portion is similar to a 3700X I have. Thanks again for the professionally laid out and detailed video.
This seems like probably the best performance to form factor PC currently available. 1L is awesome. If they could bump up the fan size and make the entire CPU heatsink copper it would be perfect.
So...many...mini/small form factor pc. I honestly wonder what is done with all of them? Surely he can't be using them all. Sell to friends? Save some for giveaways?? Who knows
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Great build, may I ask? why the blue tape on top of the Ryzen APU? Is there some type of information there that needs to be obscured? I just wasn't aware of that, if that was the reason.
That DDR4L RAM is probably holding that thing back quite a bit, but for such a small form factor that performance really looks good and I'd 100% take that dip for it. I got a 5600g in a SFF case atm, but not nearly that small, with 4000mhz CL15 RAM and a 2287mhz gpu overclock I was able to get 18033 in 3DMark's Night Raid
@AF When I first got that system the jump from stock speed (2666mhz) to the higher speed one I had near 25% speed increase. Also while I was waiting on my RAM in the mail I was running a single 16gb chip (so single channel) and compared to that it was a more than 50% boost lol
Hello ETA PRIME, whatsup?? Man, can you include some RTS like the AOE2 Definitive Edition in the game testing too? That would be the kind of game i would be playing the most. Congrats for the great work
I wish I would have seen this before building my 5700G based mini PC. Oh well, the one I built has the potential for expansion in the future if I moved it to a bigger case since I used a mini-ITX board with a single PCIe slot.
@@jayjayhooksch1 im not sure. U can find an a320 chipset one on ebay from italy but thats the only one left after i bought one off techinn. An asrock support agent said they were for a project and werent coming to the us let alone being sold anywhere so id say snatch it just for the rarity alone
I have the 3200g build ... I could take i3 10100f but didn't want to pay premium for gt 730 so settled for 3200g .. ngl it's working out great for casual gaming
Hello and thank you very much for your great channel. One question suggestion. Could you add in your benchmarks the feature of the AMD FidelityFX (FSR) when you can, because maybe that people don't know about it or have forgotten. It would be awesome to show how much more the fluidity and playability is with this new tool. Plus for the reference on youtube, there is no video with "Ryzen 5700g * FidelityFX (FSR)" and this could give a nice boost to your views and the value overall for those apu. Thank you very much and i hope that "upgrading " APU's openly with this method will popularize them even more, and for the sake of your channel too. ♥ Have a good day and take care.
But not the same Vega 8 each gen improves the design and increases the max speed. That does not mean every game will be much faster than the last gen but most will. But yes RDNA is on the way and not soon enough.
Awesome little PC. Suggestion: you can add tests using FSR (theres that new software Magpie that enables it). In cyberpunk it was 720p Low and GPU usage was 99%. MAYBE with an even lower resolution + FSR the results could be better. anyway, thats just an idea. Keep it up :)
@@scudsturm1 building you own pc, aka DIY, is a really niche small percent of the pc market. These tiny pc like this are a really niche small percent of the DIY market....more companies don't compete in this because it is a very very small amount of people buying
It's just a TinyMiniMicro PC, the likes of which Lenovo, HP and DELL are already offering... the plus being that ASRock is actually doing the form factor justice by offering 65W TDP compatibility instead of the 35W we're used to see in these chassis.
looks like an interesting PC if you wanted to give it more juice than the supplied power supply what would you use? Also if you wanted to keep this little form factor cooler what would you do? Im very interested to know.
I love this form factor, sadly its not avaliable in my country at all. ive seen the desk mini intel version on sale once. and now the saturn factor is amazing. I would love to build many of these with the am4 socket using some ryzen 3 or 5 to play with my friends on lan parties.
For what it's worth PSUs are rated for the wattage they can deliver. Since PSUs are never 100% efficient that means that they'll draw more from the wall than they'll deliver to the computer. So 126W is more than what the PSU *output* is rated at, however you are measuring the input. So factoring in the inefficiency means that it's very likely that the PSU was not delivering 120W to the computer. That said, your stress test probably was towards the higher end of what the PSU could deliver.
It is what it is.Personally if i were to get one.I would lock it at 30 and call it a day.It will also use less juice that way.One thing i do like is the design.The layout is good.To keep that cpu under 80 in gaming is already as good as it's gonna get.Hopefully they could ship this with at least 180w brick...
This thing looks like someone squeezed the Node202 to be super compact. Love it! Love it but don't need it really as I have my Node202 with dGPU inside and my AyaNeo is supposed to ship as well.
The thing is, that x8 PCIe lanes dedicated in this processor would be useless in this PC. I was hoping they could just redirect those lanes into something, maybe like Thunderbolt controller or extra M.2 NVMe slot. ASRock, please read this.
I thought it was a router in the thumbnail when I saw the video and I then I realized my router is almost the same size as this PC. This is what I call a true sleeper PC.
IDK why I keep watching these....I have a actual gaming pc(that I barely managed to build thanks to GPU shortages but lucked up on one at best buy lol) and yet keep watching these apu builds XD
@@ETAPRIME An Cryorig C7 but I am not gaming, I use it only for streaming, 4K videos and internet, the beast is hooked with an 82 Inch TV, only for this. Maximum was 48C, after one hour of 4K video, 60 GB video file. I've set it up with a second cooler, an Noctua mf-a4x10 flx, on the grill back side, pushing the airflow from outside to VRM's. Be aware that the cooler needs some modifications, will not fit inside without fiddling with it. Thank you for your videos, otherwise I was still looking for what's better to have as media pc.
Looks amazing with the build size..but 90 degree at stress test is not a pretty comfortable temp to work with..especially if you buy it for gaming purpose..
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Hai ETA PRIME I have a question.. i want build my R5 2400G with x300 jupiter But i dont have ac in my room will it be overheat for daily use? Gaming only valorant and genshin impact and edit filmora Thanks
92 degrees?? I've got a 5700G on PBO in an X300 with an ID-Cooling 47mm cooler... It barely hits 75 in a hot room doing 4k HEVC encoding. 92 is nuts....
What about in comparison of the 3.3L, 8 cores, 16 threads, Super Tiny Ryzen 5700G one? I don’t know too much about computers but I love the lighting on the 3.3L one
They really should've made 5650G with more balanced CPU GPU combo Don't get me wrong these APUs are amazing, but looking at the GPU pinned at 99% while the CPU is chilling around 30%. It could've been so much better.
@@samgoff5289 Indeed, but the GPU is the bottleneck everything in this PC (except maybe the power delivery) can handle higher frame rate and/or higher quality. You want you CPU and GPU to match each others power. If you pair a 2500k with a GTX3090, or a 5800X with a GT1030 you'll have one or the other pinned at 99%-100% while the other is barely used. It's just a waste of potential unused. And because this is an APU you can't swap out parts. ofc this APU is killer for productivity, slap this bby in an office PC and you're good for the next 7-10 years, but it would be nice to have a gaming option too. It's also a great APU if you plan to put it in a larger case and get a GPU later. Honestly I'll probably buy one because it's great, but it's not balanced for gaming. For reference, with AMD Radeon RX 580 and AMD Ryzen 5 1600, in Time Spy I got a: 4665 Graphics Score: 4478, CPU Score: 6113 And in Fire Stike: 13064 Graphics Score: 15599, Physics Score: 17413, Combined Score: 5038 If you compare those numbers you see that my CPU is actually worse than this APU, but because I have a better GPU the overall score is also better. My CPU is at 85% while my GPU is pinned. (once again it's not about absolute numbers but about relative balance. I'm not trying to compare performance of my 35L PC to a 1L that can fit in my hand.)
Love to be able to do this kinda thing just can't tho too expensive lol. Love ur videos u have helped setup plenty of emulator on my pc and batocera too! Got switch working in it now! I'd be ok with 30 fps in cyberpunk at 720 shoot grew up with a ps3 lol.
Too bad these cases are only available to reviewers. It would be great if Asrock decided to start producing some of these mini cases to export outside of Asia.
Just comment that I don't like the background music in the begining. I have been waching you about 2 years now and it is the first time I notice the background music. To me, your voice alone is more beautyfull and relaxing. For the rest, great review as always!
Have you considered using Ryzen Master to shut down half the cores so you can pump more power into 4 cores and 8 threads. I bet you'll see those clocks speeds you're use to with the 5700G.
Hello ETA Prime, i have exactly the same setup as this, using Jupiter X300 and R7 5700G. my only question: during those game testing, do you lose output connection to monitor and get black screen? Because mine can't survive gaming for more than 5-10 min before losing output ( my suspect is due to reaching thermal limit ) And if the answer is yes, can you share a solution how to avoid this? because i keep crashing trying to undervolt this APU via Ryzen Master. i just can't find the proper underclock settings. THank you!
Im in the market for a new pc, just using it for daily tasks and occasional gaming, playing on an old fx6300 with a gtx 1650 no man sky, eve online, Diablo 3, truck simulator, doom eternal, some simulators like sim city, mars simulater etc. I may just get me one of those.
i just put one together myself for living room/couch gaming. i have most of those games if you want some feedback on how they run. i am downloading doom as i type. fallout 4 runs pretty doggy at 1080p/low, but its playable. trove and minecraft dungeons run fine. it's not great, and it's not quiet. if i had to do it over, i would probably go with the asrock desktop mini x300 and the best cooling i could find. BUT if you want SFF this is hard to beat. it's not that loud, but it ain't quiet. think PS3 slim at best and PS3 fat/Dreamcast at full-throttle balls to the walls. very easy to slap together. the most frustrating part was installing win10 to the m.2 nvme drive with all this secure boot crap.
Can't seem to find the pricing of this one. If this is below 650 with a 500gb m.2 ssd and 16gb rams, would really be a good buy compared to gaming laptops getting cheaper nowadays.
Any chance you could use do a follow up showing movie streaming capabilities, whether it be from a Plex server or like Netflix? This would make for a great mini PC that is not a smart PC is my books.
So im really torn. I dream of having all the retro games in one place. Mainly ps2 and gamecube down but should i buy an old lenovo tower? Wait for steamdeck or get the ayn odin?
Awesome video and content! I am thinking doing the same, only thing that concerns me if this setup would support 1440p@144Hz on the video output? Most Asrock MBs support Displayport 1.4, but this one does not specifty explicitly.
