These Soft Beads are the New Salmon Candies! | Fishing with Rod 

Just subbed! 😁 Really injoy the content. Even calabs with kitty. Love the mushroom huts too.

Glad to help. Thanks for watching!

Yeah I love it! I bought a few of those on eBay a few years ago. 🙂

32! I’m coming up.

That is awesome!

Thanks 👍

Sounds good, maybe add a bunny hop or face plant in there when opportunities arise. 🤪

Thanks! 😊

Definitely more options than what I’ve shown in this video. 😊

Which color for the yarn? White or pink?

Thank you! 😃

You are so welcome

Hey you gotta use what you have. I used to do just fine with pretty entry level gear too. A little more spoiled these days lol.

I’m glad to hear that I can be helpful. 🙂

Thanks! 🙂

I'll have to try 30lb for the next spool I think. 🙂

Thanks! I normally do that, forgot about it in my last video. 😅

When I get home later today, I’m going to measure it! 😆 This video is filmed with a wide angle lens so whatever is in front of me would look bigger than it actually is lol. Thanks for checking it out! 😄

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Same😂 they are the best part of fall salmon

Yes! Actually, there was fair amount of eggs from the fish in my last video and I gave them to another angler who wanted to use bait. I was thinking afterward that I guess I could have used them for sushi! 😆

They’d work awesome for bull trout and rainbow trout! We used to fish beads for bull trout at the tail end of the salmon season and they usually go crazy on them.

@@FishingwithRod Awesome! I can’t wait to try them out😁

Nothing wrong with the spinning rod for sure, especially for casting and retrieving lures, works awesome for coho salmon! 🙂

I think I'm gonna have to leave those for everyone to try out because it's kind of individual's preferences. Personally I have had success with 12 and 14mm. Others have tried bigger but they just seem so unnatural. Motted cerise, pink, red, orange have been the ones I caught fish on last year. I haven't experimented enough to know what in fact works better under certain conditions.

I got those from either eBay or Amazon, super handy!

That’s correct 👍

thank you sir @@FishingwithRod

I like thicker line as well as it’s easier to manipulate and see on the water as well. A caveat is the size of your reel and of course, how much pressure it’s set on the drag so you won’t break your rod. Thanks for sharing your thoughts 💭

Do u use a bumper with 40lb braid? Is 40lb ok with coho as well?

@@megapix2425 the idea in using thick braid is to make it easier to work with and more visible. IMO the thinner the braided the easier to tangle. I believe 40lbs is too much. I use 20lbs bright yellow.

I don’t subscribe to much but You sir gained a sub forsure.. thank you for clearly explaining what you use and why -5months later

The chinook hatchery program is permanent. Without it, these two runs would just disappear because they’re not native stocks. The doubling of the productions should go on for a few more years.

Thanks for the quick reply Rod !

You could try, there's only one way to find out.

Defects! 😆 Actually, I was hoping to test these beads out on the Somass this month but I've committed to too many projects as usual. It should work, but sometimes one particular presentation just doesn't work on some days. I've also heard from others that the bites were hard to come by last weekend at Somass, so it could just be the fish that day...

Pros and cons for each for sure. A good centerpin reel like the Islander Srteelheader provides a smoother drift, where as baitcasters don't really produce the same free spooling advantage, there is always a sight resistance. Baitcasters on the other hand, are way more efficient due to the high gear ratio. This means you can cover waters more effectively.

What is a good beginner centerpin set up in your opinion that will last a while

For for a rod, you could just get a cheaper model like a Shimano Clarus, or even look on FB Marketplace to see if there are some old models for sale (Shimano Convergence). For the reel, my advice is to jump in and invest on a good one right away. Cheaper ones simply don't spin well, and can break after awhile. Islander Steelheader is no cheap, but it's pretty much bomb proof. If taken care of, their resell value is pretty high if you end up not wanting to fish with a pin setup.

I set the float depth just like the way I would fish with roe, keeping the bead a foot or so off the bottom.

Yes!! 🤣

I just buy hair ties from the dollar store or Walmart for holding rods together lol, the one without any sort of metal band on them to prevent scratches and such, they work equally well and don’t dry out like rubber bands can,

@@HATINTHEKAT i get in trouble for taking my girls lol they also work great

@@wadepitcher2211 yeah my girlfriends always looking for her hair ties too, I couldn’t bring myself to take hers haha, just got myself some and now she takes mine 🤷🏻‍♂️ funny how that works lol

The setup should work for all chinook salmon. These are BnR soft beads - bnrtackle.com You should be able to find them at all tackle stores across the Lower Mainland right now.

Those are just plastics holding the wires for the pegs.

The egg loop knot when tied correctly is much stronger than a plain snell knot. And very versatile if you ever do need the loop.

I like the bait loop knot because I do find it better than just a improved clinch. I also want my leader to be going straight through the curved eye of the Owner SSW hook so it doesn't sit in an angle below the bead.

Hard to tell what exactly is happening without seeing the rig actually, and how you are casting it.

No, unless you’re catching 60lb salmon.

I have, but I rarely do it.

Hi, welcome! You'd want to try hiking up to Lindemann and Flora Lake in Chilliwack.

@@FishingwithRod Thank you! :)

Pretty much the same as if I’m using roe, but maybe a bit shallower. I find the density of these soft beads is a bit higher than the hard beads, so they don’t suspend as much which is great. This means less swaying of the leader when being drifted. I like mine to be suspending a foot off the bottom. Fish don’t seem to have a problem chasing them down. Last year, I even had one coho grabbing it while it was being retrieved! 😦

@@xplicitfishin I have done this because that’s what everyone suggests in all the videos I see, but when I looked on the water my bead was dragging on the bottom well below the strike zone?

@@xplicitfishin my bead was literally not even an inch off the bottom. I watch the addicted guys, and all the RU-vid channels and articles in the pacific north west and Canada, and all of them say the same thing, weight on the bottom and 3-6 ft leader. And I did that and wanted to see what my gear was doing in and looking like in the water, and when I checked my bead was behind my weight and it was right on the bottom (no higher than an inch off the bottom) That doesn’t really make sense to me and correspond with everything I’ve heard. Any ideas?

@@xplicitfishin I use #2 #4 owner no escape.

I don't think it has a name. You can get those from either eBay or Amazon.

I use size 1.

@@FishingwithRod Thanks rod your videos has help me a lot in my steelhead and salmon fishing.

@@melvinverdan3586 You're very welcome!

I don’t really fish rapid water, so there is only one way to find that out.. 😉

They do. Just use a split shot and bounce it on the bottom

No idea.

Thank you for your valuable reply

Hi Frank, chinook salmon fishing is closed for the Cheakamus River. The regulations are found at: www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html When the species is not mentioned in the river system you are fishing, it is closed to fishing including catching and releasing.

@@FishingwithRod thanks a lot Rod !

Hi Ryan, so the fall chinook salmon are primarily white. It's a transplanted stock from Harrison River. Why exactly the % of red chinook salmon being caught in the fall appears to be increasing nobody really knows, but there are ongoing projects investigating this at the moment.

@@FishingwithRod thank you for the insight

You're welcome. I haven't had a chance to reply to your email, best to DM on IG usually.

There really aren't too many rods which can cover both species because of the size differences. Try to find a spinning rod that's rated 4 to 10lb, or 6 to 10lb. Those are good rods for coho and pink salmon, and still not too heavy for trout.

@@FishingwithRod thanks, I just picked up an fenwick eagle, 9’ 6 with medium moderate action with a line rating of 10-20 lb, might be over kill? I can still exchange it but might just get a second lighter rod

@@georgejs3025 That rod is a well rounded rod for all salmon species, but would be too heavy for trout for sure. Ideally you want to just have a light setup for trout (2 to 6lb) and a separate rod for salmon. It'd make the experience a lot more enjoyable.

@@FishingwithRod thank you for the feedback! I’ll keep this rod and get a lighter rod later! Had no luck at the vedder this weekend though!

Tough fishing on the Vedder right now. Once the rain comes, whenever that is, it'll be a lot better.

I haven't really tried scent on the beads, because they've worked surprisingly well without it so far.

Their spawning colours are different because they’re two different stocks. The summer reds were introduced from a couple different Interior Fraser stocks, while the fall whites were introduced from the Harrison.

And yikes about the procure! 😬

Im sure its the oil in the scents dissolving the silicone in the bead, I still love procure!

Thanks for the quick reply Rod! Is there any reason these stocks turn different colours to spawn like it camouflages them better for their original environment these stocks came from?

Why exactly they turn certain colours I don’t know, but I’m sure there is an evolutionary process behind it so they could adapt to whatever environment they need to survive in.

For 20g floats, I use 20g of weight lol... Check out those sliding egg weights from First Light Tackle in Burnaby. He's got each weight size to match each DNE float size.

Should be 3/4 oz

I’ve heard lots of success on steelhead too. My sample size of steelhead catches is too small to make any conclusive opinions on them in a short period of time I think. 😆

For a couple of reasons. This is the knot I prefer than one that ties directly to the eye of the hook. I like to have the leader going straight through the eye so the hook would hang straight. Also if I choose to add some bait to the hook, that option is still available.

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Of course you can. If that’s what you wish to do then go for it. There are just tools which make the job easier.

30mm would be like a ping pong lol. I really like the 8 to 14mm range.

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Try what?

Logan, contrary to what many believe, Pacific salmon do bite frequently, due to instinct. Coho salmon would chase down a spoon or spinner, sometimes until the lure is almost hitting your feet. Chinook and coho salmon both will bite onto bait, bead or whatever is drifting down the river. Pink and chum salmon would attack rubber and marabou jigs. That's not to say snagging or flossing do no happen, and should be addressed as it is illegal.

@@FishingwithRod Interesting! Thank you so much! Probably another factor is that I'm in Ontario, I'd say definitely there are bites but not that frequent? I remember my friend tried all sort of eggs, roe or sac to trigger the instinct bite

Yeah, some days they are just tight lipped, while other days/times they would turn on all of a sudden. Coho salmon are well known for these behaviours.

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Would it be worth playing hooky from work Friday

Any news on your lost rods and reels? I posted the information up yesterday.

Nina is really bad at remembering faces/names btw. 😆 I am usually either asleep or out fishing mid morning so you should come by again in late afternoon that’s when I’m usually home because the fam expects to be fed by me. 😉

@@FishingwithRod No and I am not on facebook so just wanted to stop by and say thanks. Really missed my twitching rods today. Thanks for the excellent vid on beads. BTW

I'm still hoping those rods would turn up. Sometimes it takes a week or two for someone to message me about found items.

High abundance doesn't always translate to high catches, I have experienced that many times too. 😅

@@FishingwithRod yes, at times I feel like salmon fishing in rivers is hypothetical lol that kinda works... some of the time. do you find spinner and spoons is less effective on springs than coho? Or about the same!??

I found this opposite, especially if I’m holding my line/float back a little bit. Make sure your bead isn’t bouncing on the bottom occasionally, because then there’d be some drag for sure. That may be what’s happening with the longer leader because there’s too much swaying going on. Kind of like going on a swing. The longer your swing is, the more you would be able to move.

@@FishingwithRod so are you setting it up so your bead is fishing like a jig or roe, suspended? Like if the run is 4 ft deep and your using a 2 ft leader do you set your bobber stop to your bead at 3 ft so your bead is a foot off the bottom? And what are your thoughts on all the RU-vid videos out there and articles, even from the bead companies themselves that say the bead is meant to be on the bottom acting like a real egg and to use a 3-6 ft leader and set your weight so it hitting bottom? That seems to be the general setup for almost every video and article I have read. And I’ve gone out 6 times fishing beads with that exact setup and haven’t got a bite and noticed my bead dragging behind my weight right on the bottom. To me that doesn’t seem like it’s in the proper stroke zone like they are advertised to be with that setup, but even BnR themselves recommends the setup with a 3-5 ft leader and your weight on the bottom. So I’m just really confused because from what I’ve seen that bead is way to low on the bottom with that setup, but they literally recommend that setup and they slay fish. And obviously you are a great fisherman and are catching lots of fish on your bead setup that’s way different than I’ve seen everyone else setup. I don’t k ow what to do lol.

@@UnRaT3Dx your leader will likely flow horizontal under water so if you want to fish 1 ft off bottom of 4ft deep run, you just need to set your bobber 3 ft away from your weight

@@nhatran6888 that would mean if you are using a short leader of 1 ft your bead would be dragging the bottom. Which is what people say should be happening and how bead companies advertise their beads to be fished, but I was under the impression that it would be floating in randomly in the bottom 1 ft of the river and along the bottom and bounding all around, but after looking at it in the low clear water the bead literally just drags on the bottom, it doesn’t even come up an inch, literally just the bottom, and that is not the strike zone of the fish. Rod seems to suspend his bead like roe (a foot off the bottom) so that means his weight would be set about 3 ft from the bottom with a 2 ft leader. I’m just confused because every bead video and article I’ve seen/read tells you to use a 3-5ft leader and set your weight to the bottom of a foot off the bottom, and you will be in the strike zone. And I tried that and looked in the water to what it looked like and the bead was just dragging right along the bottom

A lot of people in Washington use those super long leaders and beads or Corkies on a drop sinker rig to floss fish. Whether they admit it or not. Especially if they do a sweeping motion with their rod at the end of the drift. Longer leader means more line to floss through more potential fish’s mouths, and the sweeping motion add more probability of that also.

Good point about the braid test strength for sure!

Well that’s a first, never heard this one before. 🤣

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See ya on the river

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@@FishingwithRod lol I think anyway. Even with 6mm beads I put them three fingers above the hook

Not really. 😅 My teeth are not great because I do what I did in this video way too often. 😬

Not for me, cast left , retrieve right. Fly cast right strip left , and I'm right handed

Was it not enough?

@@FishingwithRod Well it's kind of a lot

@@slickwilly4613 Then watch something else lol...

That's not what this video is about. Bait would still work better, and I will still enjoy using it from time to time.

I doubt I'll be able to come to Alberta this winter Ethan. ☺️ I'm already travelling so much for my work unfortunately. Sorry!

That depends on what’s local. 😄 Pretty much all the stores in the Lower Mainland and Fraser Valley are fully stocked with them now. I walked into both Fred’s and Pacific Rivers Outfitting Company in Chilliwack a couple of weeks ago and their racks were all full. 🙂

@@FishingwithRod perfect thanks! Right between both stores!

Me too! 😜

@@FishingwithRod I'll try my luck tomorrow morning!