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@davidrigdonrigdon4848
@davidrigdonrigdon4848 Год назад
Konami giving new support comes in one of three forms: 1. The extender that does everything 2. Skill Drain 3. Towers Shout out to Cyberdarks, they got all 3
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Год назад
4. absolutely useless extra deck monster that either is difficult to get into it or adds little to nothing to the deck
@ctusiard9755
@ctusiard9755 Год назад
> the extender that does everything Fucking Rikka Princess. Rikka wasn't winning YCS before, fine, but this card is the most custom shit ever, to the point where it is basically the same shit MBT made up for Heroes.
@Groxworld1
@Groxworld1 Год назад
@@ctusiard9755 Didn't he base that off Princess?
@MP-cj6df
@MP-cj6df Год назад
Wait which Skill Drain did Cyberdark get?
@impendio
@impendio Год назад
I fucking hate the extender that does everything, hurr durr special as quick, mills as cost, has a gy effect, maybe two, on summon runs even if not summoned by its own gimmick, effect activates and resolves in hand or is just inherent! No shit the deck is gonna be better…
@nothinspecial8004
@nothinspecial8004 Год назад
4:35 I personally like the Junk Speeder combo as it takes just enough time for me to google and listen to the entirety of Clear Mind before I die to a bunch of sparkly dragons and a flower on a horse.
@yellownotmellow
@yellownotmellow Год назад
a mommy on a horse
@indumatipngtuber2790
@indumatipngtuber2790 Год назад
I use synchrons to go into an infinite loop on themselves to do a degenerate FTK because I hate the concept of fun.
@sushiroll3795
@sushiroll3795 Год назад
My immediate reaction was "What kind of dogshit Synchron brew are you on that only ends with half a negate?"
@indumatipngtuber2790
@indumatipngtuber2790 Год назад
@@sushiroll3795 True, it's not a true Synchron Deck unless you cycle through your entire deck turn one and make all the sparkledragons.
@sushiroll3795
@sushiroll3795 Год назад
@@indumatipngtuber2790 My optimal end board for Synchron in Master Duel ('cause we still have Chaos Ruler there) is usually Baronne, Hot Red Dragon Archfiend Abyss, Stardust Dragon, Crystal Wing, F.A. Dawn Dragster, and Herald of the Arc-Light. Though I usually end up with only about three of those with a couple hand traps in hand on average.
@katzuma7641
@katzuma7641 Год назад
To be fair to dinomorphia the deck needed a skill drain or they just ducking lose
@jj12343211
@jj12343211 3 месяца назад
Making monsters with layered interaction or interesting activation timings: konami sleeps Making another unplayable skill drain so based fred finally gets hated out of his LGS: konami real hours
@johnnyTimothyRokket
@johnnyTimothyRokket Год назад
When i was 16 it was the yugioh online thing before they shut down the server. It was this one light sworn player. Boy i never hated a card until he threw judgment dragon down
@kylesecord9960
@kylesecord9960 Год назад
at 0:10 shoulda had MBT as Mandark a much better fit lmaooo
@InsolentCrow
@InsolentCrow Год назад
The "literally anything that isn't meta" dude makes me rationally angry.
@skywardbound67
@skywardbound67 14 дней назад
That’s the first world problem of Yugioh decks
@impactfulsimp
@impactfulsimp Год назад
I just hate maiden with eyes of blue, listen everyone at my locals played blue eyes in like 2017 and I'm never not going to hate blue eyes in general
@MrLednard
@MrLednard Год назад
Blue-Eyes is just so borring. I love the concept of sitting on one fat dragon ass and just blasting everything and pretending I know how to play the game, but somehow they manage to make that borring. To me Maiden is the funniest card of the whole archetype except now it's super outdated; but oh boy, if you played the game when it was usable, I think either you played Maiden or you hate it, or both.
@JJSquirtle
@JJSquirtle Год назад
If it makes you feel any better Maiden wasn't nearly as popular when bewd was the best deck to play for world's. It was like 0-2 depending on who you asked and whether or not they ran mausoleum
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 Год назад
Hatred for Blue eyes is completely just. Never forget that 😀
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher Год назад
Me with HERO's
@MrLednard
@MrLednard Год назад
@@Honest_Mids_Masher Come on now, what don't you like about heroes ? The 15 to 20 minutes turns ? Them being able to easily get a board with a tower, a skill drain, a Macro + anti-search, and also the ability to completely field nuke you with a quick effect during your turn ? Oh, and also Penis Enforcer
@glacierwolf2155
@glacierwolf2155 Год назад
Dire definitely earns a W for that Skill Drain song at the end.
@3slaps
@3slaps Год назад
Rare Dire W for sure
@heyitsthatdude17
@heyitsthatdude17 Год назад
Unacknowledged but common Dire W
@chompyzilla
@chompyzilla Год назад
Cyber-Stein. If it’s not FTKing, it’s summoning a monster that either negates all spells and traps, or prevents you from summoning.
@grw18
@grw18 Год назад
Everytime i let a guy cook and it ends on reprodocus and cyberstein, IM OUT!
@indumatipngtuber2790
@indumatipngtuber2790 Год назад
*Sad last warrior noises*
@HaydenX
@HaydenX Год назад
Cyber-Stein has been a staple in multiple tier 1 strategies in the history of YGO. It might not be good now, but that's hardly fair...
@joanaguayoplanell4912
@joanaguayoplanell4912 11 месяцев назад
Not sure how a card that got emergency banned soon after release and whose only downside keeping it in check when it was idiotically brought back was it's inability to be consistently accessed, with a second and hopefully this time one-way trip to the banlist once that issue was inevitably fixed, can be mentioned on a video about BAD cards.
@rajkanishu
@rajkanishu 19 дней назад
​@@joanaguayoplanell4912 remember that thread about cards that never saw any play where like 70% of responses were cards that did? MBT viewers cannot follow basic instructions and will simply post whatever they feel like posting
@literallynoone9923
@literallynoone9923 Год назад
It's really awesome when decks have multiple of these awesome, fun, and exciting, and cool floodgates, like for example HERO, which has Skill Drain, Macro and IO, which is always fun to see.
@DrAiPatch
@DrAiPatch Год назад
And they keep getting things! 3 of those cards don't even see play in Hero decks now but the fact they have them is infuriating.
@xtc_w
@xtc_w Год назад
@@DrAiPatch This is incorrect. All 3 of Plasma, Dark Law, and Dark Angel get play in about every deck that isn't Jaden Yuki cosplay.
@DrAiPatch
@DrAiPatch Год назад
@@xtc_w Dark law does see play. The other two not so much every now and then I see Plasma as a one of and I can honestly say I never seen anyone play dark angel.
@mrshadowcristal
@mrshadowcristal Год назад
@@xtc_w Dark Angel is much more niche since you need to get a bunch of Destiny Heroes into the GY (annoying, not impossible though) and he's a brick by himself. You can never go wrong with Dark Law and Bloo-D though.
@rokechikan4481
@rokechikan4481 Год назад
I only play the Macro, but most of the time I'm just trying to go for the OTK with all of the other cards.
@Sandals396
@Sandals396 Год назад
Wow what a cool video Joseph
@DragoRaRaRa
@DragoRaRaRa Год назад
Dire needs to be paid more. Their edits fucking kill me in the best way
@Ideabot_69
@Ideabot_69 Год назад
MBT, give Dire a raise for that sick post-credits song.
@pretsel5132
@pretsel5132 Год назад
Our based wincon (Ghost Meets Girl - A Masterful Mayakashi Shiranui Saga) ve their horrific floodgate (Ocean Dragon Lord - Kairyu-Shin)
@TWLSpark
@TWLSpark Год назад
The more I return to the Yu-Gi-Oh rabbit hole, the more I realize I wasn't the only unlucky piece of work that suffered against Garunix. A friend of mine had (still has) the Fire King SD, and consistently beat me down with it for almost a year, until I finally got my hands on some Bottomless. Let's just say that we haven't had many duels since around 4 years ago, and when we do, we make a gentlemen agreement: He doesn't play his SD or Garunix, and I won't play Bottomless.
@four-en-tee
@four-en-tee Год назад
Bottomless isnt even that good, and you have to see it in your hand turn 1. What, are you playing Traptrix? Now, if neither of you are playing any modern staples, then I guess thats a bit more understandable.
@Noah-hz9cx
@Noah-hz9cx Год назад
@@four-en-tee yugioh games got alot longer if you dont play a competitive format. I dont think you HAVE to draw skilldrain in the first turn, in order to not lose against Fire King SD 😂
@mayonasepizza
@mayonasepizza Год назад
​@@Noah-hz9cx i mean you cant out it it just comes back and floats
@TWLSpark
@TWLSpark Год назад
@@four-en-tee Well, I certainly never said it was any good, mind you - it just happens to work specially well against their deck. But yeah, we're not playing any modern staples, or cards in general for that matter (not like they sell Yu-Gi-Oh cards anymore around here, unfortunately). We're on some random bs, if you're curious - I'm on a plant pile (not even a good plant pile), full with stun traps, and with random synchros and XYZ in the Extra. In a way, I guess it's kinda like Walmart Traptrix at home; it's a hideous thing, but I also have been playing it for almost a decade now. Hopefully I can get my hands on a Traptrix deck someday, actually.
@calumbishop7082
@calumbishop7082 Год назад
The thing is, when Skill Drain was banned, it at least made some logical sense to create weaker versions which were locked into archetypes. You can make the argument that it is lazy... and it is, but Konami have done this before where they make cards, which are just archetype versions of banned cards. (See something like Toon's basically having their own version of Snatch Steal). But now that Skill Drain is at three (even if it probably shouldn't be), many of these cards are even more worthless than before. Sure some of them might give their archetypes an advantage, but others are basically just weaker versions of Skill Drain... so why would you play them over Skill Drain.
@elijahpadilla5083
@elijahpadilla5083 Год назад
Most of them are just one-sided versions of Skill Drain so the player using them can still play, but that's it.
@theradams97
@theradams97 Год назад
i think the best example of everything getting an in-archetype version of a banned card is how every gx era deck has its own mirror force
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 Год назад
Powerful effects limited to a specific archetype makes sense, and is good game design. Just, fundamentally, that's how you balance things. Add meaningful restrictions.
@nuhrii3449
@nuhrii3449 Год назад
just like mirror force, like karakuri klock and froggy forcefield
@GumshoeClassic
@GumshoeClassic Год назад
What makes the Masterful Mayakashi Shiranui Saga even more annoying is that they could've used that card slot help out Shiranui and tie the two archetypes together more. Which Shiranui kinda needs. Maybe something that actually allows them to get their gameplan started properly and also counts as Style Synthesis on the field. You know, so that Solitaire finally has a chance to use his enhanced effect without having to play bad cards.
@mateusrp1994
@mateusrp1994 Год назад
That trap came in the same set that gave Linkage and Hamp to Sky Strikers. Really makes you think.
@skiing4everPS3
@skiing4everPS3 Год назад
Yeah but I'll fucking take it. Like people can find it frustrating to not play with their extra deck but my deck loses to every handtrap in the game so suck my nuts tbh. +I can FBG it off Mayakashi Return and get a second Mezuki for longer combos. Card is amazing and actually facilitates a deck that uses both shiranuis and mayakashis. Only reason people don't know this is because only about 4 people are actually dedicated to the deck.
@pablochaves1942
@pablochaves1942 Год назад
I'm gonna die If they finally print good Style Synthesis cards for shiranui and make then playable. Also the Mayakashi trap is more of konami asking Sorry for locking Mayakashi extra deck into themselves lol.
@gabrizzz
@gabrizzz Год назад
@@skiing4everPS3 yeah its good, but its fucking boring to play a deck that was interactive, and now all of a sudden its just a turn skip turbo, its so cringe
@BlackBeartic229
@BlackBeartic229 Год назад
@@skiing4everPS3 I'm saying this as a Mayakashi fan Fuck that card lmao. It's lame as hell and honestly could've been a decent effect that recycles the hard OPTs on Yoko or Tengu or another starter. If anything this card makes it less likely to get a monster to search said S/Ts (since that's where most of the non Yoko removal is) in the future now. It's good but at what fucking cost
@MacMens0100
@MacMens0100 Год назад
Quintet Magician feels like a custom card you find off google image searching an archetype its just a big beatstick that clears the board and swings for game but for some reason it couldn't be tributed because everyone and their mothers complained about kaijus in that time period. From then on I had an irrational hatred of Dark magician players
@uninspiredname2974
@uninspiredname2974 Год назад
I can't hate Quintet because in duel links I had a gravekeeper deck that ran Quintet as an alternate wincon and *no one* ever saw it coming, I'd just drop magicalized fusion with 5 different gravekeeper names in grave and otk
@chucklesdeclown8819
@chucklesdeclown8819 Год назад
@@uninspiredname2974 XD
@r4nd0mguy99
@r4nd0mguy99 Год назад
That's one of the reasons for why I like Superheavy Samurai. They attack while in defense position, Susanowo can steal your opponent's spell cards, so generic cards like Monster Reborn are easily abusable and Gigaglove outs Quintett because it sets the ATK of any attacking monster to 0.
@AZ-rl7pg
@AZ-rl7pg Год назад
To be fair I'd much rather all floodgates be tied to an archetype than having to deal with generic ones. At least then it's something you have to work up to and maintain instead of just flipping one card. I mean, for example, if Eldlich had an in archetype Skill Drain that only worked while "Eldlich the Golden Lord" was on the field then it'd be much more manageable than normal Skill Drain that's always active.
@jabermogwai5996
@jabermogwai5996 Год назад
But if they make that floodgate as a part of the archtype it means that thing will be searchable using their archtype engine/searcher, that will bring a new problem (even worse imo).
@AZ-rl7pg
@AZ-rl7pg Год назад
@@jabermogwai5996 but then you'd typically know when they have it and to play around it instead of being blind sided by one that wasn't telegraphed (can't be search so you never know when they have it) and is always live.
@KaiserTheDarkWolf
@KaiserTheDarkWolf Год назад
the problem with that type of takes is that you either make a card too good because is just on that particular archtype cofcofinfernitybreakcofcof and you force bans on the archtype or the archtype remains bad but now "you will win against othr rogue decks because they dont have enough staples to beat your semi-good card"
@munchrai6396
@munchrai6396 Год назад
I like the idea of a floodgate being reliant on you controlling another specific card. Makes it much easier to out and therefore, much more balanced even if it became searchable
@gabrielgois8724
@gabrielgois8724 Год назад
Konami only has two ways of giving legacy support to rogue/bad/unplayable deckks: 1 - Give the deck some good tools to work with and a unique Boss monster that isnt just "When opponent; Negate and destroy their life" like Ninja, SHS, etc... Or 2 - Just give them a in-engine floodgate like Shiranui, Dinomorphia, and call it a day
@Rahnonymous
@Rahnonymous Год назад
"Hey Konami, can we please have retrains of the 10+yo Aesir monsters? They're absolutely unplayable." Konami: Here's a skill drain and a link monster that gives the Aesir monsters half a shoe's worth of protection
@SknowingWolf
@SknowingWolf Год назад
"when opponent- negate and destroy life" is my new favorite way to describe the despair lol
@coyraig8332
@coyraig8332 Год назад
3 - change the gameplan so much the old stuff is incompatible
@Alb410
@Alb410 Год назад
I can't wait for Genex to get Vanities that cant be destroyed or targetted.
@joanaguayoplanell4912
@joanaguayoplanell4912 Год назад
Ninja belongs to the second category. The only reason it's decent is the new monster that permanently locks monsters into face down defense position.
@NightKnight-gi2zd
@NightKnight-gi2zd Год назад
I was watching the skill drain thing and immediately thought Harpie’s feather storm. This time it works with hand traps too
@seqka711
@seqka711 Год назад
2:09 This reminds me of when I taught my best friend to play Yugioh. We were using GOAT-ish decks, but I wanted them to know about special summons, so I threw in a single Cyber Dragon in both of our decks. 10 games. They drew CyDra 9 times. The deck was shuffled properly, I SWEAR. Anyway, fun fact, even though they never got super into the card game (they like the animes which is why they wanted to learn to play) they keep a CyDra in their wallet as a good luck charm.
@gregdavidson1885
@gregdavidson1885 Год назад
*suddenly realises King Tiger Wanghu automatically wins against Spright, Runick and mathmech (but then automatically loses to everything else)*
@arobnugzo6818
@arobnugzo6818 Год назад
Well, just put up a couple Wonder Balloons and Burden of the Mighty if you want the full experience. Oh, and Hanzo is another copy of Wanghu if you play the Ninjutsu Art. Yes, I was batshìt insane enough.
@Jokoko2828
@Jokoko2828 Год назад
Tiger King Tiger King control is a fun deck to play exactly ten times before shunting it into the void for the next 2 years until you start feeling like bullying children again.
@FakeHeroFang
@FakeHeroFang Год назад
Harpie's Feather Storm is another one of these 'lol have a random floodgate' cards. Winged Beast decks with a wind monster (cough FLOO) gets to blank all monster effects for a turn, and Harpies get to activate it from the hand so you better have Red Reboot bozo. Oh and if you destroy it, they get to search Duster for free, as if it wasn't good enough already.
@TheAlterEgo_Ark
@TheAlterEgo_Ark Год назад
God it is so fucking frustrating
@RamixTheRed
@RamixTheRed Год назад
This thread was probably the most "No one read the prompt" thread of all time
@Tokumastu1
@Tokumastu1 Год назад
Yep. I was rolling my eyes when I saw Madolche Ticket. It's like this isn't a bad card, it's a really good card that's part of the deck's core.
@dhanyl2725
@dhanyl2725 Год назад
Many meta-changing cards too tbf, not really casual cards
@theclosecall4095
@theclosecall4095 Год назад
almost all of them tweeted annoying but really powerful card lmao. ik floodgates are annoying but thats not a bad eff at all
@matchanavi
@matchanavi Год назад
HERO is kind of in that ballpark tbh. At least DPE exists and is way more interesting than Plasma, Dark Law (except the hand banish, that one's fun), and Dark Angel. I hope the upcoming support with the Wingman retrain will be good for making interactive boards that don't die to Raigeki.
@HuskyTorchiks
@HuskyTorchiks Год назад
Obviously time will tell if it works out, but unfortunately i feel like neos builds at least are just gonna turn into search favorite contact, activate and summon cosmo neos in standby turbo.
@grw18
@grw18 Год назад
I actually am cool with HERO currently on plasma/DPE pass. But oof the really old hero builds EVERYTIME were shadow mist set 4 pass. It was the most annoying thing that i didnt enjoy going up against hero decks for a while.
@impendio
@impendio Год назад
Why does dark angel even exist, it’s like such a specific effect and completely out of place compared to literally every other hero card…
@betmen225
@betmen225 Год назад
@@impendio it's the anime's fault because Dark Angel was a card specifically made to counter Plasma and D-Force, as Plasma was intended to work with D-Force in the anime
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 Год назад
DPE and interesting don't belong in the same sentence. Any card that negates other cards effects is fundamentally uninteresting. "No, stop playing the game" is not an interesting game mechanic.
@manynukes11
@manynukes11 Год назад
Yugioh players really can't read. He asked for cards which sucked and people are saying Junk Speeder and Shenshen
@ogeid772
@ogeid772 Год назад
Surprised nobody said Dark Law, considering it should be the poster child of taking a bad deck that should be interesting and giving them a floodgate. But for some reason Hero players like to pretend the deck isnt a floodgate pile
@MrOzono
@MrOzono Год назад
I love how konami card designers sit at a table, take the next deck that needs support, flip a coin and on heads they just print a skill drain as support... But hey, at least my fur hire and springans got nice support even on tails
@dhanyl2725
@dhanyl2725 Год назад
Springans got peak legacy support tho, actually good, versatile, and not floodgate based
@MP-cj6df
@MP-cj6df Год назад
Verre and the Nordic trap aren't Skill Drain, they are more like Dark Ruler. They aren't continuosly active, they only blank effects once
@darkwolf9637
@darkwolf9637 Год назад
3:00 i absolutely love mayakashis artwork and lore but i absolutely hate how the only way to play them and be even slightly viable is always the boring thing possible like turn skip turbo or bone tower mill
@Xeborou
@Xeborou Год назад
I will not stand for the Junk Speeder slander! Instead I will sit for it because our combos take too long and it would hurt standing for that long.
@808vibess
@808vibess Год назад
There are also the Psyframes and Kaijus as archetypes, trash but so annoying.
@Menphistus
@Menphistus Год назад
Konami on their way to find more methods of creating skill drain again. I hate what dinomorphia became after rexterm was introduced. First time I saw dinomorphia, I actually liked the deck and it was kinda fun to use(specially using casually with friends, since there won't be any floodgate bs)... And then they just "yep floodgate" for no reason, for a deck that could've been more interesting than just floodgate turbo
@PrecursorIdeliron
@PrecursorIdeliron Год назад
Okay, we’re gonna need a recording of “Skill Drain by MBT” as a ringtone, a stream alert, something. That’s too damn catchy not to reuse and listen to all damn day, no joke.
@Y0G0FU
@Y0G0FU Год назад
All Konami hears is: Give Rogue Decks more archetypal Foodgates.
@kailikwoh498
@kailikwoh498 Год назад
Feels bad when one of the best ways to play the game is to prevent your opponent from playing the game
@ScottSheazusSheahan
@ScottSheazusSheahan Год назад
2:42 Ouch, that hurts MBT! It's unfortunate to hear my Top 8 at YCS Chicago and Top 16 ARGCS Championship in 2014 have been forgotten at this point.
@LadyTsunade777
@LadyTsunade777 Год назад
Feels good being an Exosister player, where as a rogue deck my only floodgates are _completely turning off the graveyard_ (for the turn) and not archetype Skill Drain / TCBOO / Warlords. Also, Exosister support was _phenomenal._ A new starter/extender in Malfa, new fun strong interaction in Returnia, and a new boss monster that offers very unique and cool interaction _that doesn't have any floodgate or negate on it._ Seriously, Magnifica being able to quick effect rank down into one of its materials is some of the coolest XYZ shit I've ever seen, and it turns on the lower rank Exosister XYZ effects to boot since they are being "properly" XYZ summoned with an Exosister material, along with it being an XYZ that requires two other XYZ of a different rank as materials to summon. I've always liked XYZ, especially ones that do weird things with it. Exosisters and Madolche are a couple of my fav archetypes, and I'm super excited to try out Purery. (especially because Purery Leap is a trap version of Magnifica's effect, letting you spell speed 2 rank up _or down_ your Purery XYZs)
@BlackBeartic229
@BlackBeartic229 Год назад
Only problem with Exos now is that they can brick somewhat easily for some reason and they have problems rebuilding. And of course Xyz's decks main problem (excluding martha) where if your Normal gets negated in some way you're boned. But for what its worth the deck is still really fun lmao.
@VVheeli
@VVheeli Год назад
I’d argue that Witchcrafter is also pretty tame and not just “heehee skill drain”. Yes there’s quick effect blanket board neg, but it’s easier to play around than straight up floodgate, and the non-floodgate variant is a pretty interesting control strategy. Constant value engine, pretty good consistency, and interaction that feels substantial but not smothering.
@wailord2692
@wailord2692 Год назад
When you have to make it to 8 minutes so you just turn MBT into 'music'
@matthewwallace5315
@matthewwallace5315 Год назад
I will not stand for this fire king slander!!
@dragonknight1560
@dragonknight1560 Год назад
Mekk-Knight in Duel Links. It was SO BAD to deal with them due to their EASY way to add them in any Deck, mainly Cyberse Decks and had that Continuous Trap that negates Spell Cards before it was limit to 1. Every time I see them or Galaxy-Eyes, I just can't help but surrender because there's no point. HONESTLY... I have more fun dealing with Salamangreat more than Mekk-Knights.
@streetgamer3452
@streetgamer3452 Год назад
Tbf to Dinomorphia, what else would you give it that would be impactful enough and keep you from dying at low lp other than a skill drain. I play Dinomorphia and HATE rexterm because I wish Kent was the boss monster and got support to help her but I understand their thought process when making it. Also, Witchcrafter doesn’t count because it’s a skill drain that was out from the beginning unlike a lot of other skill drains that came in the future
@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm
@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm Год назад
Labhonest to god labyrnth is just dinomorphia done right, just make their graveyard protection better
@SVTDI
@SVTDI Год назад
I play Dinomorphia and kent is for sure the boss monster, she gets you the second rexterm.
@jonas162
@jonas162 Год назад
this might sound stupid but, burn damage. i feel like dinomorphia couldve been a really cool burn deck if rexterm read something like "once per turn if you would take damage, inflict that damage to your opponent instead"
@7996AD
@7996AD Год назад
How about something like, Rex is a once per turn negate (quick effect obv) that also sets the targeted monster to zero attack/def. Unaffected by card effects and in exchange we set it to 2000 attack and 1500 def. Finally, this card is the only one that can be targeted for attacks. When this card is destroyed by battle, return the attacking monster to the hand or extra deck. I think the problem with the original rex is that it turns what dino was originally meant to be, a high risk, high reward deck, into a "does your deck have an out to this specific floodgate." I think something like the above effects adds ome much needed safety from battle damage, makes the dino player think carefully about when to use the negate (without needing to worry about an opponents negate), and makes the opponent think carefully about how to out it while the low attack and def make sure that most decks have a response to it. Edit: Oh and it should also have a "you "can only summon/control 1 rex per turn."
@streetgamer3452
@streetgamer3452 Год назад
@@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm Lab and Dinomorphia have different playstyles even though they’re both trap decks so you can’t really relate them since their strengths and issues are very different.
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx Год назад
Nebra disk is definite stockholm syndrome for me as chronomaly player with all of its restriction. I really got the end of the stick to have MF konami printing a somewhat merciful stratos on their "fuck stratos" period. But still, a stratos, praise konami!
@lorenzocampici7885
@lorenzocampici7885 Год назад
Misc is so goddamn boring "Oh, so you have nibiru? No you don't! Time to watch my 10 minute youtube combo for 18 negates!"
@Epzilon12
@Epzilon12 7 месяцев назад
2:28 Gotta love yugioh, this did not age well.
@NoJonts22
@NoJonts22 Год назад
“Anything non meta I hate having to figure out an entire archetype on the fly” ok that’s fair um have you consider uh fuck you! 😂😂😂
@TateDeichert
@TateDeichert 2 месяца назад
2:45 that statement aged REALLY bad
@maskofthedragon
@maskofthedragon Год назад
6:04 I remember all the 30 card decks that would open their ONE copy of that and ONE copy of Red-Eyes Fusion
@maxumusjesus
@maxumusjesus Год назад
I think this is a good sign of what Konami's real motto is: "We play backrow, deal with it."
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 Год назад
I mean, backrow are what made Yugioh popular in the first place. Without backrow, it's an MtG clone. It's core to Yugioh's identity. It's the thing that sets the game apart, makes it unique. A deck that works without them should, fundamentally, be a gimmick deck with a low chance of actually being competitive. That's the ideal. Like a burn deck in MtG, it's a gimmick that doesn't typically work, because it ignores fundamental aspects of the game. That's what the goal should always be. Every aspect of the game's core should be important to success. If it's not, that's just bad design.
@esbernhawkins5912
@esbernhawkins5912 Год назад
I'm going to cry when Muskets get support in 30 years and it ends up being a fucking reskin of Harpies' Feather Storm or some shit instead of something that lets them not brick every 3 minutes/lets them not die to a single quick effect pop. Because that's just what I want for the deck I picked up out of a deep hatred for floodgates: a lingering fucking floodgate.
@matiasbianchini584
@matiasbianchini584 Год назад
"I hate non-meta because I can't read" every meta player ever
@ASoldierify
@ASoldierify Год назад
his response @ 04:00 is perfect.
@cbored3778
@cbored3778 Год назад
Orcust, all of it. Especially when knightmare got released. It was the same shit every single game. Make galatea with any fucking 2 monsters, set crescendo, set your hand of 4 floodgates and watch as they "win through skill" On a related note fuck the entirety of toss format :)
@vasilisvks1448
@vasilisvks1448 Год назад
As a passionate rogue player (and a generaider one at times). Thank you for that 4:03
@ansatsukiraYGO
@ansatsukiraYGO Год назад
07:22 couldn't agree more
@HakureiIllusion
@HakureiIllusion Год назад
MBT: "Even the Mayakashi players don't want this." Yes we do, it's the only way to bring the opponent's deck almost as far down on the power scale as Mayakashis.
@BlackBeartic229
@BlackBeartic229 Год назад
Who the fuck is we? Only a minority of Mayakashi players want a lame card like that lmao. Most, as MBT said, think the card is not only lame but not needed at all. Mayas just needed more interactions (whether in the form of S/Ts, copying Yoko/Tengu) and more starters/extenders. All this card did was basically say "you're never getting another s/t searcher and hope you like getting nothing else for the years to come". Return is almost always searching 1 of 3 cards so you can't even make use of the cards like Mayhem that wouldn't be dogwater if consistently able to search it.
@HakureiIllusion
@HakureiIllusion Год назад
@@BlackBeartic229 Normally I wouldn't respond to a comment taking a joke I made too seriously, but saying "Mayakashi only needs more starters, more extenders, and more interaction and it could've been good" as if that doesn't apply to literally every half-baked archetype in the game is funnier than any joke I could ever come up with, so you win this round.
@BlackBeartic229
@BlackBeartic229 Год назад
@@HakureiIllusion I will admit that I assumed you were being serious like a lot of people in regards to cards like that. And while it might not have made them "good" it would've been far more fun imo. Realistically any half baked deck can be made if konami chooses to. We saw that with Rikka
@graysonshipley929
@graysonshipley929 Год назад
I understand bishbalkin creates a lot of FTK’s HOWEVER…. Punk musket bishbalkin pls I need to see more of that deck it’s so based.
@mmmbhss3468
@mmmbhss3468 Год назад
Screw them, reptile pile needs him more
@giantstrawman543
@giantstrawman543 Год назад
My favorite skill drain they gave a rogue archetype is icejade. First they gave it half of a skill drain, which was kind of cool for breaking boards. Then they gave it the other half. Why did you split it into two????? Also Svalnn is just a one time board-wide negate, not a continuous effect ;)
@thorscape3879
@thorscape3879 Год назад
It used to be super fragile but now with Gymir it's really hard to out. That assumes you actually drew in to it.
@mateusrp1994
@mateusrp1994 Год назад
Madame Verre is the same Svalnn, just a board wide negate.
@thorscape3879
@thorscape3879 Год назад
@@mateusrp1994 Verre at least requires a cost. A recursive cost but still a cost. When there are strategies that can pump out three or more negates what else is Konami to do though? There would have to be a rule on how many negates you get per turn overall or something equally as drastic. The other alternative is to give these archetypes with Skill Drains their own negates which creates a game of chicken of whoever activates their negate first loses.
@DrAiPatch
@DrAiPatch Год назад
For me, it's 100% Eternal soul and Dark Magician the Dragon Knight I came back to the game in 2017ish and I remember every other game I played on Dueling book was VS Dark Magician
@f687sNFM
@f687sNFM Год назад
Misc is my gripe, but besides that infernoble ftk just feels more unbeatable than tear 0. And even if they go second they still otk you.
@PrototypePlatform
@PrototypePlatform Год назад
why did the buster blader dude use prologue as an example. bruh.. buster dragon destruction sword has been used and abused in so many meta decks its not even funny, and the archetype it's home to infinitely loops it back. surely BDDS woulda been a better example. needless to say i agree with hat was said anyways, the deck is just haha 4 card skilldrain haha. which is why im currently playing it xD
@SirenLuna107
@SirenLuna107 Год назад
When I was younger Exabio Drakmor was my favorite card and nobody ever understood how to out it
@bl00by_
@bl00by_ Год назад
Who would've guessed that floodgates are just bad card design?
@Abyssionknight
@Abyssionknight Год назад
Seeing all these decks with skill drain effects makes me feel bad for ice jade. They got a skill drain too, but it requires 3 cards on the field to work, and if any of those cards are off the field it instantly turns off.
@SetSeth-yl6ke
@SetSeth-yl6ke Год назад
Personally, and this is gonna be controversial.. *_Swordsoul_* Every Swordsoul Player has an answer to being interrupted. Oh whats that? Mo ye is imperm'd? LEMME JUST SPAWN LONGYUANG AND DISCARD BLACKOUT TO KEEP GOING!
@EnergyBurst2
@EnergyBurst2 Год назад
I'm glad Toons don't seem to have any super hated cards, but if a toon card was to have shown up in this video my guess would have been Comic Hand given that it's in archetype Snatch Steal, with 1 bonus and 1 drawback added on.
@arobnugzo6818
@arobnugzo6818 Год назад
I mean, Archfiends had a non-OPT Snatch Steal since 2003 but sadly whole archetype never got any good support.
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher Год назад
@@arobnugzo6818 Still waiting on that
@chucklesdeclown8819
@chucklesdeclown8819 Год назад
@@arobnugzo6818 archfiends have some cool card art, I kind of wish they were better, they now have a link monster but like I've never seen an archfiend player
@SilverHyozanryu
@SilverHyozanryu Год назад
I wasn't the tweeter but I'm glad junk speeder is on here. I kinda hate it even more because it took synchrons from a difficult but rewarding deck to play to make a level 5 synchro turbo that does the rest of your plays for you and the deck still isn't good.
@malcadorsigilite6120
@malcadorsigilite6120 Год назад
Due to my inexperience with YGO, even now, I played against this deck and used Ash too early. It was lovely to stare down Cosmic Blazar Dragon, Majestic Star Dragon, and two Stardust Dragons on turn two.
@KuroeNezumi
@KuroeNezumi Год назад
do remember it was made during "unless you make a link with multiple arrows pointing down you can't have more than 1 ED monster" format. they could ban it now that both that and halq are dead, but I wonder if that makes the deck better or worse, with its current support (IDK I don't play synchron to know if that'd be good or not).
@SilverHyozanryu
@SilverHyozanryu Год назад
@@KuroeNezumi Its not really a ban worthy card even with that in mind. I just find it a lazily designed card that made a once cool deck extremely boring.
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher Год назад
Tbf I don't think there's ways to make a rogue synchron deck without junk speeder. With that being said though I hate how the moment junk speeder resolves you just have to commit to the biggest god damn combo of all time and use up pretty much all your resources to where if your board does get outed you just have zero recovery. Also remember how Yusei's deck revolved around protecting his monsters? Why couldn't Konami make modern day synchrons more like that?
@UshiUshiKakuThe2nd
@UshiUshiKakuThe2nd Год назад
I disagree. I get that all-out combo decks aren't everyone's cup of tea, especially when you have to sit across from them, but Speeder is one of best things that happened to the Synchron archetype. Instead of using 3-4 cards to haphazardly stumble through a Librarian+Formula line and pray that you draw into extra extension, the deck feels a lot more cohesive. It also means you can diversify your disruptions, and make more resource-efficient Synchros, rather than Extra-Deck-draining Level 12 Synchros, like Quasar and Blazar. I also disagree that Speeder "does the rest of the plays for you"; you still have to consider the non-Tuner side of things. In fact, I'd say that's the one thing that keeps Synchron from being truly busted, as the non-Tuners like Doppel and Converter are nowhere near as tutor-able as the Tuners of the deck.
@absoul112
@absoul112 9 месяцев назад
I'd rather old decks get a floodgate to slow other decks down rather than their support just turned them into a worse version of a new deck.
@krullachief669
@krullachief669 Год назад
7:33 Ye, instead give us monster effect raigeki or monster effect harpy's. GIVE US MORE MACHINA SUPPORT, COWARDS
@Emberrs
@Emberrs Год назад
I think the Witchcrafter cards are well designed and fun. Madame Verre released with the release of the archtype so its not like they got the Mayakashi treatment of getting a boring powerful support years later. Verre is one of few cards that rewards attentive players since the Witchcrafter pilot gets their spells from GY to hand in the end phase and discards them for cost when disrupting the opponent, someone paying attention can keep track of how many spells are left in hand, hence Verre maximum possible ATK gain, and play around it.
@hnaf9936
@hnaf9936 Год назад
except they always die to a single ash
@eldavid8774
@eldavid8774 Год назад
To be fair to umi control and buster blader, those are supposed to be stun decks, that´s what they are supposed to do, unless you believe stun shouldn´t exist, which is another discussion entirely and which seems pointless for the game, i mean Yugi won on the first episode thanks to a floodgate if you think about it, it is a part of the game inherently.
@5.99USD
@5.99USD Год назад
Swords of revealing light at least has the decency to go away after 3 turns
@Dori_Dorifto
@Dori_Dorifto Год назад
@@5.99USD buster dragon goes after 2 if u use the trap tho
@chompyzilla
@chompyzilla Год назад
Royal Magical Library. Pretty much only appears in dumb FTKs
@harrycrosswell2844
@harrycrosswell2844 Год назад
I'm not a fan of floodgates. Buy Kairyu-Shin's artwork is so badass that I semi-frequently play Umi-control. I also just love water decks. I'm not proud of it... but at the same time it's so funny to just normal it turn 2 and wipe the opponent's entire board of negates :'D
@rerorerorerorerorerorerore9065
My favorite part about pure predaplants is that the goal is an anti xys/synchro archetype that can be turned into just skill drain and if you summoned anything not getting negated you could be getting super polymerization’d
@luminous3558
@luminous3558 Год назад
I really question if yall ever read skill drain or why its even considered so good/oppressive. Dragostapelia only negates stuff with counters on em so just layer your plays so that you only lose 1 effect to stapelia and 1 to predaplanning.
@OizenX
@OizenX Год назад
I guess my answer would be any sort of Kuriboh like card in Duel Links specifically, because in that game they might as well say "and then next turn search any card you want"
@conorreilly1968
@conorreilly1968 Год назад
Joseph immediately taking the Actman take with the example huh
@thomassparling4739
@thomassparling4739 Год назад
Icejade has two skill drains instead of one. That clearly makes them unique
@PhantomThiefXI
@PhantomThiefXI Год назад
im at the skill drain im at the vanity's im at the combination skill drain vanity's
@tyranitararmaldo
@tyranitararmaldo Год назад
Someone needs to make a compilation of these MBT openings haha!
@dominicsavankham0709
@dominicsavankham0709 Год назад
I loved the Fire King deck back in the deck. Having a dark hole every turn was hilarious and my friends hated it. I actually bought a cloth garunix playmat that's really clean 👌
@johnnyhall9154
@johnnyhall9154 7 месяцев назад
Garunix has now seen competitive play
@bonzey9895
@bonzey9895 Год назад
This is probably a boring answer, but for me it's Mystic Mine when it was still unlimited. I have a Love/Hate relationship with this card. My first duel in forever was a Mystic Mine Burn. I didn't even had a chance to try out Dragunity. Although, later on, i played a Psy-Frame deck with Mystic Mine in it. i managed to activate it once and it was the most trollish thing i've ever done to a person. My other option would be Jinzo since when i was a kid, i played a Yugioh video game and i only played against Joey and when Jinzo was out, it was basically a outo lose.
@AgentOcto
@AgentOcto 5 месяцев назад
Yeah Maiden with Eyes of Blue fuckin SUCKED when I played with my friends. I was THE duelist on my street with my friends fearing for their lives whenever I did the Dark Rebellion XYZ Dragon summoning chant from the anime... UNTIL MY FRIEND CAME ALONG WITH THE BLUE-EYES DECK I LOANED HIM. Uggggghhhhhhh
@bottomtext3460
@bottomtext3460 Год назад
When are we getting the skilldrain type beat on spotify Mr B Tee
@HopeP0H
@HopeP0H 3 месяца назад
Good to know others have the same thought pattern as me. First thing I thought of when I read the title was Harpie’s and DDD, then I saw the thumbnail
@Talguy21
@Talguy21 Год назад
3:07 YEP. Nobody wanted this, not even us. If it weren't for the GY effect I'd refuse to even play it. I'd happily just take the Link 3 from that set and be OK with fielding 1-2 really slow targeted monster negates. no but seriously why did it take until MAMA for Mayakashi to actually have a full ladder
@Salacavalini
@Salacavalini Год назад
Oh come on, Verre isn't a skill drain. Is every monster with a negate a floodgate now? Is Swordsoul Chixiao a skill drain? The entire problem with actual floodgates is that they're continuous effects with no cost (even if discarding a spell is a negligible one it does come up). Anyway, please ban Dark Magical Circle, thank you.
@JustExtras
@JustExtras Год назад
I've been slowbrewing Icejade ever since MBT started to play them in prog but I just cannot stand that every instance of the deck I come up with, that looks remotely viable, is just; 'one-sided skill drain, pass'.
@Zackeezy
@Zackeezy Год назад
As much as I love hero, it really is the exact same. Before dpe, it was just dark law and/or plasma. Like full combo was a one sided macro and a one sided skill drain with maybe a pop off of dystopia if you felt frisky. Now with dpe the end board feels a little more varied as dpe is a cooler design, but lord above I do not enjoy playing against hero if I'm playing something else.
@blaze3422160
@blaze3422160 Год назад
I’ve always disliked Eternal Soul. Cool you get to to maybe summon one DM that’s a towers, but one back row pop and suddenly it’s a free Raigeki. For a deck that doesn’t OTK very well or at least consistently , it feels like a weirdly designed card.
@SyxxPunk
@SyxxPunk Год назад
I don't have much a problem with Kristya, but that's because it's won me more games than I'm willing to admit.
@blacktea1210
@blacktea1210 Год назад
fun fact!! kashtira has exactly that bad design philosophy which is why it's actually ass ariseheart may be a format warpingly broken boss monster bu by god is his deck actual dogwater
@raisp6073
@raisp6073 Год назад
Konami I assure you decks can be playable WITHOUT GIVING THEM SUPPORT IN THE FORM OF A STUPID FLOODGATE
@lukevolts9005
@lukevolts9005 Год назад
Someone get King Scarlet to make a Skill Drain song so he can call it the Skill Drain Beat
@ab2aasd
@ab2aasd Год назад
wow what a cool video joseph
@A.C_B.
@A.C_B. Год назад
Toon Kingdom. The deck isn't good, but once it has its board established it's just such a pain to out. Nvm their searchable snatch steal.
@sebastien5956
@sebastien5956 Год назад
As an Inzektor-Beetrooper/insect pile player, the deck would be incredibly unfun to play against if only it ever got to play. It aims to go second, and if it somehow manages to get past its very obvious chokepoints that have very few workarounds and no follow up, it erases boards. However, it completely crumples to even just a Ghost Ogre on Dragonfly let alone a negate, so it never gets to that point...
@jinxtheunluckypony
@jinxtheunluckypony Год назад
I’m surprised nobody brought up Lady Lapis Lazuli. I love Gem-Knights and I’ll freely admit we suck to play against. We have one long combo and if we do it right the opponent doesn’t get to play Yugioh.
@mayonasepizza
@mayonasepizza Год назад
I would say magnus the king of the computere, but he is not in a bad deck, quant is a secretly insane deck that no one plays
@SloopYGO
@SloopYGO Год назад
in defense of nordics, its a one time negate of the opponents field, its not skill drain but yes konami pls stop printing "banned floodgate but its locked in a bad archetype" type cards
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