This 3D Printer is a BEAST!!! The Pantheon Design HS3!  

I’d like to see some metal infused prints. Perhaps some exotic filaments?

Since this printer is built so rigid, I'd like to see a resonance test as well as print quality on perimeter walls

I hope the v2 goes this route in the next major revision. Having the electronics in the bottom is a pain

get something like RockNRoll mod or something similar from Printables, a huge help when you need to do something quickly, just make sure the gantry is as low as possible

Vzbot :D

Some people like a Porsche, others like a Hilux. Personnally I think its great that we have arrived at a point where we can have a bambu, this and companies make parts for a crazy folks building a voron in their basement :)

@@paulb4334 It is nice that we can pick from so many options. I have two Bambu a Prusa XL and two Rat Rigs. ON order a Magneto and a new Rat Rig Vcore 4.

he's also getting XL and maybe Vcore-4, time for coreXY ceiling winch

I mean, they actually did throw one in the back of the truck and drove around town as a test and it printed fine so uhh, send it!

@@CanuckCreator😂👍

Check the next stream I'll show off some tall prints

@@CanuckCreator And please do the resonance test in clipper this should be sick

Resonance tester please!

@@OvenroastedJerky Second!

Not really, remember any fibers need to be small enough to fit through the nozzle

The CF petg that they sell prints very nice and smooth to the touch

Well to be fair. While it is running klipper. The printer construction itself isn't open source

@@CanuckCreator ah I see. Still a sweet little rig tho

It's probably intentional so that 100lb machine doesn't shake off the desk or punch holes in a wall. Although, you do make me wonder how fast it really can print.

It's true, higher voltage would be ideal. The HS3 operates at a nominal 24VDC bus. The bed is also powered by this bus through an annoyingly fancy DC-DC relay (the amps required for the 500W bed makes it fancy). Reason we everything is powered off the 24V bus is mainly certification requirements. Under 30V is considered "extra low voltage" and you thus has much less stringent requirements. Also, the rubber feet were definitely a requirement, some of our early machines that didn't have such feet walked themselves across the room overnight. 😅

@rileygunn1287 note to self.. first mod replace servo supply with 48v psu. If the bed and servos are running off that it's willfully be underpowered the moment anyway one cranks up the acceleration settings 😒. In the USA, anything under 48v is basically a rubber stamp.. side note, since this is not a linear power supply, it had no way to dump flyback power from the servos. Have they added a proper crowbar circuit with a load dump. ? Otherwise the voltage spikes can blow up the psu, and even the controller. Also I have over 40 products in the global market and 11 patents in my name. I feel I have at least a little understanding on this matter as a hardware and electrical engineer

@@ZoeyR86 I agree, more power = more better! Any increase in voltage potential would increase the max velocity and torque. Maybe a 75V version of the HS3 that one signs a waiver for before buying? 😅 The power distribution Nero points out handles the flyback power from the servos. They are isolated from the bus via an ideal diode and any voltage spikes are clipped and dumped by some zener diodes. Nothing fancy, simple and reliable 👍 The bed is 500W but it only pulls that during warm up, at print temperatures, to maintain the bed at 80-90°C it requires a lot less. Which leaves plenty of power for the hotend and Servos.

@@rileygunn1287 all sounds good I know those servos can peek over 430w each but that's at the upper end of the voltage range I have a few clearpaths floating around I just never ran them below 36v before. Zener diodes work ok I'd at least wire them in series with 5w 0.5-1ohm resistors to help take the load off the diode. I haven't done any homework on the machine to really be saying more then the basics.

it probably could, but the rails wouldnt last as long, there not really the kind you want to use with an "active" load on them, also, personally im not a fan of machines that eat where they poop, so dual cnc/fdm style

i noticed that in the edit lol

which is a shame but understandable, printer works on 120V and 220V without changing parts

Yep

Remind to check on stream, its printing right now lol

6mm ID, 10mm OD

@@rileygunn1287 interesting! I’ve always used much smaller IDs for this.

Hard to say, again, big part of the Voron Design ethos is using off the shelf parts and no custom machining....which are rules this printer breaks alot of Also, first look/over view video....not a review

​@@CanuckCreator Maybe just design a big square shape on the top with 6030 extrusions then mount everything on it like this machine?

750 watts was a lot less then I was thinking.

300mm3

who is this lend currency williams you speak of?

I believe it is

Yes they are

Different kind of machine for a different use case Not everyone NEEDS PEEK/PEKK printers but still can benefit from a very solid reliable printer design with very low maintence requirements

Ehh, not quite, if you look up the BOM cost (plus custom machined components like the common plate and others) + labour your still looking at a quite large pricetag, then add service and support + ya know, paying your employees, it gets pricey very quick

@@CanuckCreator Is there a BOM to look up? I'd be super interested in that if it exists (no time to create one based on guessing plus i havent looked... no time atm). This is the kind of printer i wanted to design and build for myself years ago but aren't in the position to time/life wise). But i can do all the "expensive" machining/manufacturing myself so i may well be able to make it for a fraction of the price and it be a viable option. Given how nearly all of the components aren't proprietary it may be feasible.

Clearpath servos + ballscrews are bulky

as someone who actually HAS both and has USED both lol no, there are in no way comparable

it is YES monies

they do ship outside of canada

how original

If you mean the bright orange, it's just the only colour IGUS supplies a 10AWG single conductor cable/wire in their "chainflex" series. (CF885-PE) When we have a bit more purchasing power to ask a big company like IGUS to make a custom colour, we could. SSR is on the high-side of the load, what colour do you think it should be? Red? Also, does polarity really matter for a resistive load? 🤔

It does have a chamber heater....100w of hotend and whatever else heat the bed is dumping out that circulated by the chamber fan. But for Pet and nylon based filaments It's enough and It's prints em beautifully and it's designed to meet their customers needs. I do believe they are working on an activily heated chamber but this model doesn't have it

Maybe it is enough ... But if i want to print PP on PP tape or POM on a POM plate, I keep my bed off . So I won't be able to it in good condition. It was so easy to add an infrared lamp, why they missed that ? This printer is for which market ? Why would anybody buy a printer rigid like this one if it is not for really high temp filament which need rigid frame because of the dilatation of the chamber. I don't get it.

I mean, did you watch the video? I went over some of the markets there selling to and they are very much in touch and communication with their customers so if something like your talking about was in a high enough demand, they would be catering to it. Adding a chamber heater is by no means a hard thing to do, and i figure if there market segment demanded such a feature, they would be adding one (that may even be something there actively working on)

is it a waste though if thats not what the customers there serving want/need? Its very easy to add one, but theyve had the machine on the market for years in various iterations and yet, no chamber heater (at least....for now....)

Ahh shoot, you should probably tell all their ongoing customers this cus you seem to understand the entire industrial/commercial 3d printing market

​@@CanuckCreator You really didn't demonstrate any of the features in this overbuilt printer that makes it worth it. Yes, it's made of expensive components... wow cool! In the end you're still going to be fiddling with it like any fdm printer, but at 6-10x the price without any of the 6-10x the price features. I've seen first hand the types of things companies are willing to waste money on. Having a company buy this isn't proof it's worth the money. However.. I bet a little bit of money coming my way for each one I sell might change my mind about it too.

@@nzalog It's a bit difficult to show reliability, dimensional accuracy and good support in a video. Not to mention all the certifications this printer most likely has and all the China printers don't.

Sorry, im part italian

It doesn't have a chamber heater cus it's not really needed. It's aimed at printing filled pet/nylon plastics cus that's what their customers use it for

well this is kinda budget tier in the industrial world

@@8bits955 but it's what X1CE (or original X1C launch marketing) claims to be was more my point. Just hit print and done.

@@christopherwestphal7149 true that x1ce isn’t much different to x1c. Although depend on what u want form the printer that might be enough, if you aim for production then that is a whole different level most printer that is capable of that cost a house

Every company starts somewhere

Fun facts, all vorons have a hat, its just built into the frame Your always going to have a "volume" above the toolhead, they COULD have put an extrusion frame above it and made it integral like say a voron trident/vzbot/ratrig vcore ETC Or, you have an easily removable hat that you can move up and out of the way for easy access. nothing wrong with that

@@CanuckCreator Its why I dont like any of those machines. Maybe im just too spoilt by bambu tbh. I got rid of all my vorons and replaced them with X1C for my business. The vorons just take up too much space for the build volume they offer.

Would be nice if someone made CF-filled filaments that where not black, but is what it is.

I don't get it, why he should not print it in black ?

@@chatroux399 It might get mistaken for a real gun, thats why black is controversial. Adding an orange tip is something that might work, since in the US people do that to show that its a "toy" gun, not sure how it is in Canada

We can buy black toys so it is ridiculous to complain about the colour. He prints whatever he want as long as it is legal.

somewhat, theres pics on their site if you want more up close one, also, you know you can have multiple questions in a comment, dont need a seperate comment for each question, unless your doing that to feed to YT algo as it thinks theres more engagment on the video, if so thanks :)

@@CanuckCreator fair. but to my i original point. when doing a review on a technical item you have gone to a lot of effort to SHOW the watcher the item in great detail. i feel its so easy to do a few still or panning shots of what you are talking about instead of throwing it around in a close up shot so we cant actually see what your talking about. just neutral feedback. i think your dialogue is spot on, you got the right mindset and speech patterns. but sometimes its hard for intelligent people to step outside themselves and see from that 4th wall especially why they are doing such a job at giving the information. just trying to help you get more views. like imagine if you and your friends just go a hold of the new latest greatest gadget you had all been anticipating and you all wanna take a look but your one friend wont stop throwing it from hand to hand and he wont let you take a look. super frustrating. your right, people can go elsewhere to see the item....and thats what they will do. you dont want that. you want them to come to you when ever there is a new thing in the 3dp world. i know thats what i do, i say oh theres been a new technology or machine come out, who can i go to find out everything i need as fast as possible so i can move on with my day. thats all. hope my filterless drivel helps you suceed. greetings from your fellow prisoners of her majesty (POM) in australia

CF-PET is just the "bulk" filament, its mainly designed for nylons, which thats what the customers who are buying the machine and providing feedback on it, are using it for.

Please rewatch the video and let me know at what point I called it a review?

@@CanuckCreator You can call it a "presentation", "first impression" or even "ad", I think my point still stands.

I mean, theyve been "failing" for 3+ years so far and been doing just fine, but ok