It’s crazy how we’re at a point in society where something is LITERALLY shown in front of people’s eyes with no smoke and mirrors and some people STILL find a way to deny or defend it.
I don't think it's that deep dude, these people know this guy and are on their payroll probably - just a matter of money talks really, defending him will get them rewarded
@@Azurethewolf168 tell me you dont know what sexual assault is without telling me you dont know what sexual assault is. you dont need to be naked for something to be sexual assault, sorry to drop such a big bomb on you at such a young age bud
@@Azurethewolf168 If you kiss or do anything romantic without any consent whatsoever, then yes of course it's sexual assault. This is a very easy concept to grasp
Imagine getting sexually harassed on-stage on live television in front of millions of people and YOU get in trouble for it cause whoever touched you is an old man on the upper class and you weren't in tears of joy for receiving such an action without consent. This is the world we live in.
Too many nasty old narcissistic sentient sacks of money in every fucking industry on the planet. But yeah I’m sure 90 days will fix his deeply corrupt, goblin shit of a soul
the most vile part was when he announced in a huge press conference that he was not going to resign, most of the reporters there cheered and applauded his decision. disgusting situation all around
Update from 3 months later, he basically got forced into stepping down after having the entire country of Spain turn against him and has been banned from the sport for the next 3 years. Also, the police are looking into potentially pressing charges. He has still yet to claim any responsibility. *FURTHER UPDATE FROM MARCH 2024* His house was just raided by police as part of a complete separate corruption investigation.
@@jar207 Blame your fellow men for that. For some reason men also don't see an issue when female pedophiles prey on male children as well. Not a feminism issue, its an issue with society seeing men as purely sexual creatures that obviously enjoy and consent to any and all female attention no matter what the circumstances are.
The fact that he tried to make her say it was mutual is honestly sad. I’m happy he has stepped down currently, and hope others will be exposed that are like him.
His protected, the Spanish goverment has said they are doing some investigations into Luis Rabiales, and people have been protesting. But the actual football organization have said they are going to do nothing. His protected, he knew the outcome but also knew the board would nothing. Evil does not act on impulse alone. It has a mind, a hand and a soul.
Fr! I've just seen some of the reply sections in other comment and people are so aggressively trying to defend the guy it's actually scary what kind of people these are
@@EmotionalSupportDemon69 You too, wtf are you talking about? I bet you thought Amber heard was telling the truth, and called for Johnny Depp to be cancelled too. He was fuckin innocent. Don't talk shit without proof!
@@MrMabawsaritchieuhm, he did it in front of live tv, and she has stated that she did not feel comfortable with him doing that. Don’t know what else needs to be said.
My man risked it all. If only the media hadn't manipulated Hermoso. They've shamelessly made her a pawn for the feminist agenda, and she's powerless to speak her own mind. The first tweet she posted betrayed her true feelings about the situation.
@@damnation6667 How would you feel if some random guy came up and forced himself upon you're Grandma/mother/sister/daughter/girlfriend/wife? He knew what he was doing and he knows its wrong and smiles anyway. Imagine yourself in her position and tell me you wouldn't mind it hm? Also they're probably not friends and have no personal interest besides him and he abuses his power in his job and you don't see that as a problem? Imagine being the victim of sexual assault and people blame you for it happening when it wasn't you're fault. And why bring up other problems bruh dodging the obvious bullet. If this is such a minor incident then why do you care so much to comment it? And how does looking up 3rd WC problems to get mad at wtf makes no sense and no correlation to the subject. People aren't mad, they are outraged. Molesting and rape starts off like this too, holding hands, grabbing ass, force kissing someone. It starts off small then leads to one person getting forced into something they don't want. Horrible shit happens not only just in 3rd world countries too bro. This dude prob doing this behind the scenes too and he slipped up on LIVE TELEVISION on one of the biggest and popular SPORTS in our HISTORY. Stop defending rapist. He should be banned from the sport and in prison getting forced kissed by other prisoners and see if he likes it. Its like seeing a horrific scene and telling the victims to "get over it, its not that bad. Look at poor third world countries, they don't have running water and its so bad you'll kill yourself reading about it" Stfu
@@damnation6667are you dumb? just cos there is worse stuff in the world doesnt mean this shit gets a pass...people are mad, and very rightfully so. This poor girl just went to get an award and ends up getting sexually harassed. Not okay at all. He should be punished. Imagine if this happened to your sister or daughter(hypothetical), you would be enraged.
@@theautumnwind8437What do mean stranger? He's literally president of her team, they have close relations. He actually hugged everyone but this happened exactly to her because she's a star player. After that there's footage where doesn't seem assaulted or anything, actually she was laughing about with her teammates. That's how assaulted people act in your world? By calling this assault you underestimating actual acts of assault, this could've been resolved if she talked to him one on one , but she decided to do it publicly thus ruining his career. Do you think he deserves getting his life destroyed because of that? It's fair to have some sort of punishment if she feels "assaulted" but ruining mans life is just too far
she was literally joking about it in the locker room after the game! You people are the ones putting preasure on her and making her feel weird. rubiales fucked up, he needs to quit! and thats it.
For those wondering why women are often reluctant to come out with assault allegations, this is why. Literally happened in 4k, and there’s people trying to justify it by saying he did not use tongue.
Or why a lot of women don't fight back physically, because if noone could stop him, he could hurt her back and if he doesn't do anything but is in a position of power (which he is, in this case), he can still press charges on her and he would get nothing.
Just poking someone with your finger is sexual assault if it wasnt consensual. All it takes is contact and for the victim to say it wasnt consensual. That's literally all it takes and charges can be pressed. Now, whether or not the charges stick is up to the courts, but this should 100% stick.
You and Charlie got huge L takes she was smiling after if she actually had issue with it she could’ve said it there in front of everyone she’s definitely using this for the bag
@@brezio5251Multiple people have shared similar stories in this comment section, and it has clearly hauted them... Do not dismiss the kind of horrible memory this can create.
He probably wouldn't ask for a small peck from a male player either, and you shouldn't ask players for those things anyways, Jesus Christ it's not that hard to be professional. Also I highly doubt he asked for any type of permission.
I can't post links here, but if you google male football players kissing each other, you will get lots of hits. Has anyone seen the video? If you think this was a sexual thing, you should spend more time offline. Also, everybody around them is hugging and kissing, too. Should everyone step down, including the players?
male players tap eachother on the ass all the time it's part of the culture snd you don't see people freaking out over it.. If these women want to be treated the same as men they need to grow some balls
I'm glad so many other players are stepping up to defend her and refuse to play if this keeps up. If nothing else, it's good to see so much camaraderie between the players.
@@gamingmadster calm down! he didnt kill the lady, let him get his normal punishment and thats all.. he didnt do a crime, imagine a lady kissing a man like that infront of everyone would she be brutally attacked in the media like this? of course not
Fr man i've been seeing so much comments saying like: "Oh they're *_accusing_* him of kissing her on the lips" Have you not seen the 4K 8GB Ultra HD Artifically Enhanced 240 FPS video???
As a spanish, everyone hated him even before this, he didn't resign because his lawyers adviced him not do it because that could be taken as admiting doing sexual assault in the jury
idk what the big deal is, he just pecked her, not like he stuck his tongue down her throat. I've seen guys give sloppier kisses to each other during soccer matches. ppl r just overblowing this tbh lmao 😏
@@John-X what if it was your wife. I'm sure you'd love seeing another man slobber her lips on life tv for like 4 seconds too? Its all for celebration so
@@John-X you need more context to understand this, Luis Rubials has also been accused of sexual harassment many years before and there's also been some conversations of him and Sergio Ramos about rigging the ballon d'or for him. Same with Pique and the spanish supercup, not only that in 2018 this guy fired Lopetegui (spanish manager) 1 month before the world cup making us lose any chance of winning it. This guy is a jerk and an absolute incompetent at his job.
As a spanish native, I saw this unfold live. The reactions from everyone around me were pretty much the same: surprise and mild concern. Perhaps they had some sort of relationship, we thought, or maybe this was something common for them or that they had agreed to. But as statements from the players kept coming, the realization of what happened weighed on all of us. The girls had just won the World Cup! This was a moment of celebration, dedicated to congratulating the team for their amazing performance and immense efforts, but it was overshadowed by a fucking creep. Disgusting.
Wow could you be more hysterical? A man briefly kissed a woman on the lips after winning a world cup and she was uncomfortable. So what? Why do you people have to make such a big deal about these things?
@@jackthehat1093because it is, it’s extremely disrespectful to have no regard for someone else’s bodily autonomy and the fact that you can’t see it means you are probably as self indulgent and entitled as luis rubiales
@@boxinashoe8223 I think it's weird and annoying sure, but it's not sexual assault. I had to put up with it all the time as a kid from friends of the family or neighbours. Am I now a survivor? LoL.
As a Spaniard I’m disgusted and amazed that this event has become more relevant than the mere fact of our women team winning the World Cup….it feels so frustrating. At least media has finally exposed this creep to the world ig…
As someone who’s been forcibly kissed by a man physically restraining my head the same way that Rubiales did to her, this was hard to watch. But it being downplayed my some people is sadly not even surprising because both times it happened to me, it was dismissed by friends and family who I told about it as not that big of deal. But it feels horrible.
I mean, I'm sorry for ya. But you didn't have to make it all about you, unless there was another intention in mind. But usually when people are like "oh i wemt through that too" its pity begging
Heyy! A genuine question Later a video was released where we saw the team behind the scenes right after the kiss happened And the woman seemed completely ok and not even shocked. Did that happen with you aswell As in feeling fine but later realising that it was bad Byw sorry for what happened to you
The most pathetic and sad part about all of this is that now she's going to think of this terrible moment every time she thinks about winning this as well when it should be an amazing moment for her and now it's a terrible moment. She worked her ass off to accomplish something amazing and now it's tainted
@@TupackYGOYeah because you just suddenly start finding some traumatizing event funny. No one does that. Its never going to be funny. Trauma isnt funny bro.
@@psychoticax645 what if the positions were reversed imagine urself (a male) winning the world cup and your football federation president was a female and she kissed you after winning the cup, would you be traumatized?
The main reason why he isn't stepping down and he is being defended by the organization is basically because he managed to get lots of money to very influential people/groups
well, tbh that and the fact that the global political climate of the past few years has normalized just flagrantly denying inarguably true events that there is abundant video (and other) evidence of, like it's a thing people in power are doing more and more because they now *know* they can get away with it (at least as far as some very deluded people are concerned), and just because they're left with pretty much no other option in the era of 24/7 media coverage and literally everything being easily filmed and photographed but to plead the "Shaggy defense"
2:09 > Assaults a woman in broad daylight > Denies that it happened despite there being tons of footage of it > Threatens to sue the victim > Fails to elaborate > Leaves
We live in a world where you can commit a crime, break a moral law on camera, in 4K, filmed on multiple cameras, witnessed by millions of people over the world, on TV and on the internet and ger away with it. But if it's an accusation with no proof whatsoever that's "in fact true"...
He gave her a kiss. He didn't drag her into an alley and violate her. A judge wouldn't even bother to look at this case. By your logic, there'd be a lot of middle schoolers in prison. What you need to do is calm down. I've had to restrain many an out of control woman for creating public disturbances.
We live in a world that if you have enough power, you can ACTIVELY BREAK THE LAWS ON CAMERA and get away with it with no repercussions. I’ve officially given up on humanity.
@@warlordofbritanniaTrump is on record telling his supporters to go home, and is on trial for leading the “insurrection” that resulted from Capitol Police opening doors to let people in, and FBI agents agitating on the other side of the building. That’s “justice”? lol. There’s literally been people acquitted because the authorities were on film letting the people in.
I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate your videos when you call out people on these things. Over 20 years ago when I was in school I went through something terrible. With my experience, even though things went through a court with a guilty verdict & a restraining order was placed , I was told that I needed to change high schools. The reason I was told to change instead of the boys that inflicted injuries and harm to me, was I didn't have extra curricular activities after school hours where these individuals did. They didn't want to ruin the future of them getting their scholarships so it was "easier" to move me instead of them. I wish I had RU-vid back then because I'd seen this video for example I'd have known someone somewhere actually cared enough about how wrong this all is. Sadly 20 years later we're still dealing with these problems. I can almost guarantee that someone somewhere is getting validated by your words for justice and compassion. I am extremely appreciative of that, thank you.
We were made to give hugs to the boy who hit us, this was in daycare. That's how young this crap starts for some people. And if we refused the daycare workers (immigrants from India) said "we will put you outside where the strangers can get you". When my mom found out she took me out of the daycare luckily and told my friends parents about it as well, they were also taken out of the daycare. I was lucky to have a mom who knew better than to put up with crap like this. Many women are raised to be inferior and don't know better than to stand up to BS. Sorry you had to go through what you did
Too bad someone somewhere is getting raped while Spain feminist groups only worries about a priviliged woman receiving a 0.5 second kiss while emotions are high during a celebration. But backdoors they release from prison more than 100 sex offenders... i don't understand kissing is bad but rape it's ok? Google it, Ley Solo Si es Si. (Law Only Yes mean Yes) proposed by the Feminist Minister of Equality, Irene Montero.
He was not a stranger, and there was no drool involved. It was a very smooth kiss. Hermoso has not been kissed all that often because her body language reminds me of an awkward high schooler's when she gets her first kiss. Also, and most importantly, Hermoso supported him and brushed the kiss off as insignificant until the Spanish media and her teammates urged her to change her position.
@@RobbieStacks90you said yourself, it's a kiss. That's the point. Come back here after getting kissed on the lips by your male boss, and let us know you're OK with it. Edit: guy said 'My boss is not homo.' Lol you sure about that. 👀
It really is horrible when these kinds of deplorable people are in positions like a coach or teacher, because sometimes they harm so many people and can get away with it
God, I agree When it’s someone in a powerful position, that’s when it’s the scariest to deal will; if enough people back the suspect, your ass is getting *negative one* justice
Yeah quite common for people at higher positions to get away with particular kinds of crimes, especially if they are wealthy fellas. Imagine this situation, who'll likely win over this lawsuit. A popular well known multimillionaire who had multiple allegations commiting sexual assault on his/her coworkers, or the many people that back up this allegation along with the suspected victims? No wrong or right answers here, just want to see both sides of the matter.
Thank you for talking about this. I know women that this happened to, and it’s NOT OKAY. Kissing someone’s mouth without consent is assault. Period. There is no excuse for this behavior. That man could’ve kissed her cheek, given her a friendly hug, a handshake, a high five… But he purposefully chose to violate her boundaries instead.
It's the corporate suits, the people in the RFEF, and any other corrupt people in leadership positions that need to be investigated and charged. I am so sick of these "cover ups" and denial of heinous events. These Individuals who so quickly abandon morals and ethics for a paycheck, it's disturbing.
You talking about the kiss or this person with this attitude? Just my opinion but prison time is hard for that its still a crime and one should recieve consequences for example be removed from such a position of power (and maybe others) im not a judge tho.
I have to explain this to my toddler and even he understands now. "No matter how excited you are, you can't just touch people or kiss them" it's kind of wild to me that a grown man isn't being charged for this very obvious sexual assault.
Diferente country different culture the west is intoxicating people with this agenda, making a simple kids into international news but forget about the war crimes that’s happening around the workd
The fact that he’s is so confident in his action could mean he sees this situation as nothing, which makes me believe that he does this normally or does worse and gets away with it. His unyielding support by the foundation just reinsures his confidence in getting away with this and he probably knows it. Seems like he got so used to that life he thought he could do it on international media and be fine. *federation
They are confident because she assaulted him grabbing him against his will and lifting him 3 feet in the air before the kiss. She later forcefully brought his body close tight next to hers. The entire sequence is on pictures. Just at that moment he asked her verbal consent before doing it (there is video of it). There is a reason why this goes the legal way. They are confident because she went out of her way to attack those who mentioned the kiss when she was being asked after the match calling them puritans who wanted to create a problem where there wasn't because it was a mutual act (those were her spontaneous angry words, not a written statement). She broke the protocol like the other playes didn't, she went against his consent turning the situation to an intimate level. A judge does not see just a tiny piece of the evidence, and the whole sequence is more than just the kiss
@@cristianproust Your reasoning makes absolutely no sense. Her hugging him and lifting him in the air is not sexual assault or comparable to forcefully grabbing someone’s head and kissing them without their consent. Have you never seen members of a sports team hug each other and lift each other in the air in celebration when they won? That’s completely different to forcefully kissing someone on the mouth which is a borderline sexual thing. Forcefully grabbing someone’s head and kissing them without consent is one of the most cut and dry examples of SA, the fact that you refuse to acknowledge that it’s SA is clearly because you’re blinded by your own bias and don’t WANT to acknowledge that it’s SA.
@@cristianproust “she forcefully brought his body close right against hers” what are you talking about? Hugging your coach / team member or putting your arms around their shoulders is extremely different to forcefully kissing them. The fact that you are trying so hard to defend something that is obviously not defendable makes me worried that you or one of your friends have forcefully kissed a woman before and now you’re trying to justify it to yourself.
@@cristianproust she probably “attacked” the people asking about the kiss because she was massively uncomfortable about the situation and didn’t want people mentioning it and bringing it up again. If she didn’t explicitly come out announcing that the kiss was consensual, then it probably wasn’t, considering we have video evidence of it happening and he didn’t once ask her if it was ok, he just grabbed her forcefully. Idk why you’re claiming that there is video proof of him asking her for consent when that is objectively not true 💀
@@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy Of course it is assault to grab a person non consensually, lifting them in the air and then bring them chest to chest to you with a hug. Do you think you can do that to people on the street?
Yeah I heard about this yesterday. Pretty insane he’d do that. He should be fired. The RFEF should be ashamed of themselves for defending him. They’re all a bunch of idiotic clowns. She should sue for the simple for fact she was threatened with legal action. That’s insane they’d threaten legal action in the first place.
It's corruption all the way up in Football. Imagine sexually assaulting someone on live TV, denying it, then threatening the victim with lawsuits for speaking up. For some reason everyone around him backs him up.
@@potato6785 I don’t think Spain can be more internationally embarrassed than it was after nearly half a century of Francisco Franco, but you may have a point…
As a spanish myself im sick of seeing this dude on tv and how he´s stepping out saying he´s not going to resign his job and people praising him like he's some kind of hero. I´m glad more players are speaking out about him and defending the player.
My favorite part is the braindead Twitch chatter saying "Nah bro, you just don't understand Spanish greetings" when the Spanish player + the entire country of Spain is saying that it was weird and uncalled for.
The entire country lol how bold could you actually back something like that up? The player I believe but could you truly source an entire country? Oh you were just being hyperbolic after being on Twitter. No surprises there. Hyperbolic time chamber use dulls the mind.
@@lucamckenn5932this is such a stupid and dishonest statement that detracts from the point, jesus christ. The point is that there’s enough outcry from the general public of the nation that one cannot make the argument that what he did is considered normal.
Even if this was a moment of adrenaline. The guy is still terrible at his job and also did a pelvic thrust at the queen and king. Also he supports a coach that made half the roster quit. Also he’s corrupt. Did I mention he’s a pretty bad guy?
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This is why I don’t believe people when they say “well if they had more evidence, I’d believe them…” like here’s all the evidence. You saw everything in front of your very eyes. And you’re still defending the abuser!! You don’t care about how much evidence there is, you just don’t believe victims. Just say that, sweaty!
I hate to be that person but, it’s ‘sweetie’ not ‘sweaty’ I’ve made that mistake before and had people think I meant sweaty so they were confused. Anyway, you’re 100% right. Those types of people who are denying this are victim blamers but, in this case, there is nothing that could twisted and used against her. So they just stay in denial.
That's the thing right, I remember saying to my aunt, "Why is he kissing them like that!?" and he just seemed so creepy and she said it also. So I'm pretty sure that I'm not seeing things, I cant believe we have come to a day and age where we see someone taking advantage of women on live television and they try to tell us that we "misunderstood the situation." its pretty obvious it was un-consensual, she even said herself that she didn't want it. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE WORLD?
It is astonishing that we live in a world where you have a picture or a video of someone doing something stupid or illegal ,and they say it is photoshop or fake, I just cant ...
As a Spaniard, most of the people defending him don't even say it's fake but that he was 'caught in the moment', 'couldn't think straight', and 'we're just soft liberal snowflakes'. Humanity is devolving.
She grabbed him against his consent, she elevated him in the air and brought him close tight to her body before they started talking. He had his arms around her head, because she had taken hold of his body quite forcefully first. The entire sequence is on pictures, millisecond after millisecond. He subsequently asked verbally for a kiss and it is on video too (the answer it isn't but the body language showed camaraderie and closeness). She subsequently attacked people mentioning the kiss as puritans (her spontaneous words, because she thought it was an invention of the press). I heard it myself. She just changed her version days later in written text in a federation statement. This whole thing is the weirdest thing ever. A judge will be the one deciding because this is against the law, and the evidence will be pondered, not justa selected piece of the interaction
@@cristianproust where did you even get this info? fox news? As a Spaniard myself, I have seen and read all the information first-hand, i literally don’t know what you are talking about. The only thing that I know of is Rubiales saying she supposedly grabbed him first which is not really a reliable or unbiased source
when I was 10 I had a similar thing happened to me at a competition. Right as I was about to get on my horse, one of the grooms (he was probably in his 60s) grabbed on to me and kissed me on the lips. I was too young to understand what happened but I felt violated. I can't imagine having something like that happen to you while the world is watching you. what was supposed to be one of the best days of her life turned into a disgusting situation
I am from Spain and I find it horrible that in a press conference after this, not only did he not resign, but he raised the salary of a coach, and everyone clapped. my country sometimes makes me ashamed.
Becuz of a kiss? News articles are flooding the internet because of this incident but they ignore the war crimes going around the world. Why can’t grown people accept accountability for there actions, why they gotta make such a big drama even tho she said she didn’t care at first?
because charlie is way too goofy and shallow , man's a gamer who cares if he whines and babbles , but clrearly his audience are walking memes@@wackoterp7026
This is so foul. If he's willing to do this in 4k and have the association blatantly threaten her. The whole of women's FIFA absolutely needs an investigation, and a lot of people need to be held accountable. I feel so bad for her.
I know... I was watching the actual video on some other channel, and there were so many people defending him in the comments, it was kind of disturbing
Thank you so much for talking about this, Charlie. I am in Spain and what is happening is absolutely fucking insane. This guy has stolen from the Federation and abused his position to behave in reprehensible ways towards the players, and then the Federation FALSIFIED an statement from the woman affected and reported the clip of the kiss in social media to try and erase in several platforms. I am so happy this is making waves internationally, the whole situation is just surreal.
Es simplemente descorazonador ver cómo todo esto salpica el Mundial Femenino por una persona de esta calaña que cree que el poder es suyo, ojalá las consecuencias sean grandes y pague por todo esto, es surrealista y no hace bien a nadie
The fact he GRABBED her head on both sides so she can't turn away instantly gave me goosebumps. This has happened to me and ITS SCARY. I feel so bad for her, and then he smacked her butt. Oh my gosh poor girl... EDIT: He did not smack her butt, that was my fault on not seeing it correctly. But I still stand by him being awful and disgusting for forcefully kissing her
While this is WAY over the line, and he should be reprimanded, fined, and she could surely get something for her troubles, you guys are blowing it WAY more out of proportion. He did something wrong, it was disgusting and disrespectful. I'd fucking hate it myself, male or female. However, the kiss was between a peck and a real kiss. Still disgusting. And there was no "butt smack" he claps her on the back, as you do to any player after you're like "good job dude" while they are leaving. To me it honestly seems like there is no sexism involved (unless this is never ever done to men), but rather just a wildly inappropriate celebratory kiss, which is still not okay. Especially, as he grabbed her head and basically made it close to impossible for her to pull away.
Also, for the people that say in Spain we kiss all the time: of course it's not like that. People normally give two kisses on the cheeks, and it's not even a kiss. We put our cheeks together and make the "smooch" sound, so it's not even a real kiss, much less any similar to what this creep did
This might sound weird af, but my parents' friend group has had a few moments of intense joy where they would kiss in the mouth (I was told that when talking about this case), married guys and gals celebrating. With that in mind, even knowing this could be a response to joy in very intimate cases, it doesn't even come close to what happened here. This wasn't a peck. It wasn't mutual. This girl is idk how many years younger than you. And you are like, her boss??? Jenni wasn't okay with it. It's disgusting.
I didn't know whether you'd cover this, but I'm so glad you did. I'm Spanish, and I've seen this explode, and everyone talk about it, it's disgusting how even after becoming global news, no one is doing shit about it
So many people can be aware that they have the eyes of the public observing them all of the time, and still do the most suggestive things possible in spite of that
He probably thought it was normal for any men in power to kiss every girl that he wants. This is why kissing should just be left out out of any form of celebration or congratulatory gestures. What a weirdo, poor girl. I hope she sues the hell out of that creep.
That is a old thing. They blame the victim. As him being a couch. He should know better. This was sexual contact. Now if she okayed it. Then it wouldn't he wouldn't have been a threat. This was purely a threat he did towards her. He should be fired.
@@jar207 If some rando went on a killing spree you wouldn't be saying "Well this was just a one bad instance, he surely hasn't done anything like this in the past therefore he should not face the consequences" Cause if you did, you should be banned of having an opinion on anything in life
Men kissed each other on the cheeks and even on the lips in situations like these and it was a happy moment for everybody involved. I don't understand why now it's not anymore.
I admittedly don’t follow sports closely but the other examples I’ve seen aren’t people grabbing the player’s faces and forcing a kiss. That’s the difference imo (also how they tried to pretend “nothing” happened)
@@Nat4Brendan forcibly you mean the act of touching by the shoulders and then the head or what? I'm sorry but i don't see how and why this would be felt as sexual / harassment. Mis interactions can happen and in the heat of the moment it can get hard to understand how the other pearson feels about any of it. Also, for many ot's also muscle memory. You automatically give a kiss in certain moment but it can get also akward because the other person might've not wanted it. But you say sorry and everybody laughs it off and or gets off by.
The best thing about this is that it shows the extent to which people will defend sexual harrassment even when it happens in broad daylight, now imagine all the things that happen behind closed doors
I can’t even imagine how she feels. She just got finished playing one of if not the most Important game of her life. She’s celebrating and victory and as she’s stepping off the field, this absolute greasy lunatic plants a kiss directly on her.
Yes it was very wrong of him to do it, but why was she and her teamates making fun of it in the post match celebration. Even laughing at it. This was an overreaction, wouldn't consider it even Sexual Assault. De
@@adanperez648it literally is sexual assault tho. Like by the definition he non consensually forced himself onto another human being in a sexual manner
@NigerianMarauder wtf!? LOL... i mean, I could see how a man who kisses an unwilling person would support another who thinks it's ok to grab another person by their.... genitals. Coach and him would get along...Lmao 😬
The amount of people excusing it in comments of other videos is so gross. Imagine your boss fully kissing you and then strangers on the internet being like “He was just happy!” “She was smiling!” “It’s like you can’t even celebrate anymore” like damn lol
@uh4875 what did Trump do? Genuinely I have no idea lol as far as I know he was just kinda mean. I'm more scared that the persecution of a political opponent is being celebrated by many Americans. That's dangerous precedent to set. I really am a centrist and I see the left as the more corrupt and dangerous party for sure.
This shit is getting out of control.. Even with video evidence they still blame the woman for being assaulted. Thank you for being the voice of reason.
HAH FRR NOT JUST A SIMPLE KISS EITHER LIKE BOTH HAND ON UR HEAD PUSHING U TO KISS HIM liikeee gthat shits violating i hadda guy do that once n it literally felt like i had no choice but to kiss him
this is so disgusting to witness, and even more disgusting to know there are people defending this and acting like it's okay. no, it's not being "sensitive" to say that it's gross to kiss someone without their consent in front of millions of people. it's honestly scary knowing how many people are just willing to bat an eye to this and let it go.
A little of piece of advice for you Gen Z boys... If you aren't a woman, stop using "disgusting" to describe anything you find objectionable. We straight men look at you differently when you use it.
ON THE LIPS no less 😭 i’m not a hugger - even with my closest friends - but if i were in her position and had just been hugged, i wouldn’t be mad at all. that’s a perfectly normal reaction to being proud of someone and feeling overwhelmed with excitement. kissing, on the other hand, is so obviously too far and not a natural response for most people, no matter where it happens - but on the lips? i think i would kick him in the groin out of instinct if he did that to me. i’m shocked he hasn’t already been forced to resign because of the whole orgy thing since, morality aside, huge companies and organizations usually have a much lower tolerance for losing money than for sexual harassment & assault. and like some other commenters mentioned - if this is what he does in 4K, then what’s he like in private? i wouldn’t be surprised if that mf is all sorts of touchy-feely when the HD cameras aren’t rolling & he isn’t surrounded by a huge crowd.
Recently, I was kissed by a strange man without my consent while I was just walking down the street. I froze up and my mind just shut down. It was absolutely terrifying and I felt really violated. Like, after that happened, I wanted to rub the skin off of my face because i felt disgusting and humiliated. All of this to say, I really feel for this woman. We need to completely end this culture of predatory behavior to women. I hope she has people in her life that support her in this situation.
I feel you girl! I had a grown male customer give me a sloppy wet kiss when I was working as a hostess. I was SEVENTEEN. Ruined my entire week, I felt so violated
The sheer violation, humiliation, and disrespect this woman faced makes me nauseous. This moment, which should be one of her most victorious, is now forever tainted because some old impulsive creep decided to act on his entitlement. It is disgusting.
I’m Australian, I’ve loved this World Cup so much, the Matilda’s have done so well and the Spaniards deserve this win so much and I’m appalled that this happened and that it took away from the event
Appalled by a man making a move on a woman? The only reason Hermoso was "repulsed" by it was because the Spanish media and her teammates pressured her into changing her stance. Her initial reaction was one of indifference. When you like a girl on a date, you don't ask to kiss her. You read her body language and make a move.
This guys defended his actions by saying it was due to the euforia of winning the world cup and that he felt like doing it. Imagine your company celebrating great results and the boss going to the sales team and kissing the women in the lips due to "euforia". No boss of any company would be able to do that and get away with it. As a Spaniard this is so shameful, to see my country in one of Charlie's videos for this horrible reason. Edit: congratulations to the women's football team for the incredible achievement! The whole nation is proud of you!
@gharnsnatch4088Would love to see how you express yourself in a language that's not your own, mate. Instead of shitting on someone for misspelling one word maybe you should focus on learning a new language yourself.
@gharnsnatch4088 Bro what you even mean? Education in this country? OP is Spanish, Correct me if I'm somehow miraculously wrong, but I'm pretty sure English isn't the first language in Spain.
Being from spain is so sad to see that this kind of guy has any kind of position of power, not only what he did but how he justifies himself and lies time after time. Damn its so embarassing
@@warlordofbritannia It's even more wild that people are DEFENDING HIM, like what? How can anyone possibly defend a coach kissing a player without permission, it's so stupid.
What is even sadder is the people in the replies trying to pass it off as a thing that happens all the time being blown out by foreigners. Spanish people were the first to be outraged, the team is protesting it, the woman herself said it was gross, the acting president made a statement against it, any spanish association that isnt buyed out by him has denounced him, what other spanish people should say that it was not a normal "tradition" for them to be satisfied? Do we reanimate Pelayo to ask him? Its baffling how anyone can think of the man who has accusations of syphoning money to finance his sexual degeneracy in parties attended by known tax-evaders is somehow a more reliable source than a 4k video of the transgression corroborated by the people who where there to witness it.
This happened to me at a concert when I was a teen where some random guy ran up to me, manhandles my head, and kissed me on the head multiple times before scurrying away. It felt extremely violating to my personal space and embarrassing to me even though no one else saw it, so I can’t even imagine how Hermoso felt with this happening in front of the entire world watching when it should have been a happy, celebratory time for her
you have no idea what women go through. If you had sisters, or sisters that trusted you enough to share stuff with you, you wouldn't be so dumbfoundingly ignorant. Women go through this constantly, grow up man.@@NoName-tr3vs
@@NoName-tr3vs exactly what do they gain by making this comment to you? why are you this mindless that you think a comment of someone sharing their story is somehow mischievous...
It’s worse than that, he’s being supported by the press over there. Because boys will be boys, amirite??? Seriously though, this is gRape culture in action.
The worst part is knowing that there will be some twitter troglodytes that will defend this and say she's just being "woke" or something as corny as that.
Some people in the comments are already doing just that. I see terms like "American ignorance" already, ignoring the fact that many SPANISH women are the ones protesting.
Reminder that it doesn't matter in the court of law what his intentions were. Sexual assault is the act, not the thought process. Mouth on mouth contact can inherently be considered sexual in a situation where consent was not given.
yeah, nevermind the journalists that go to countries in conflict, the goober that sits in his room and rambles for 10 minutes is totally "carrying the journalism industry".
I watched it as an english fan and thought it was crazy to see, also very sad that the other spanish player found out her father had died after winning but I was accused of being bitter about England losing for bringing it up. I wish Rapinoe would keep out of it though, the US women's team have been completely classless with their attitude in tournaments for years.
@@jar207I want you to mention male sexual assault at any single time other than to take the spotlight away from a woman who has actually been assaulted.
I, and other women I’ve know have been through similar situations. In school, we were groped and kissed without consent and when we would tell an adult, we would be criticized for “wanting it” even as early as middle school. Misogyny is deep rooted and won’t be fixed anytime soon.
@@FirstLast-yr9kxthey literally said that they tried to tell adults and they sided against them. Next time read the comment before replying. Also, if you think the coach had the right to grab the player and kiss them like that then you already lost.
thank u moist someone with a brain and a heart. dude is gross as hell, and an example of the kind of BS a lot of women go through. I got sexually harrassed at my old job by someone who was at the company for 40 years and well known/important to them. When i spoke up about it my immidiate close co workers and boss agreed it was disgusting and helped me but a higher up defended the man and even told me it was my fault…idk why this reminds me of this. I kinda burried the memory after i left but seeing u talk about it im like wow this was not chill…it wasnt my fault…
Can you elaborate? It sounds to me like you've embellished the details of your particular situation. Sexual harassment to a lot of "women" these days means "he asked me to dinner." If your situation constituted sexual harassment, you needed to get law enforcement involved. I know you like playing video games, but this is real life.
That was something I realized very early on in my childhood. Powerful and rich people can get away with anything they want and it’s sickening. We live in a corrupt world that’s ruled by the wealthy
We live in a world where some men can get accused on zero evidence while they have an airtight alibi, and it sticks so hard their life is ruined. And then this guy can get caught, not only in 4k, but have millions of people watch him do it *as it happens* and he still gets away with it.
we live in a world where women, with DNA evidence, report rape and never get taken seriously. you seriously agenda posted on this? guys what about MENS RIGHTS? who will think of the men?
@@griggletv6974people don't defend him because he is rich, people are defending him because they think unwilling/non-consensual intimacy is perfectly fine.
@brandan5708 If you don't think his wealth and power are not used to getting away with s assault then you are dumb and you missed the point of me being sarcastic
I hate how there is people (mostly men) who are saying that she enjoyed it because she wasn't pushing him away...... you don't understand that 1; it was a moment of joy so she was barely registering anything 2; being assaulted takes time to process specially when it's so sudden and infront of so many people. the fact that she was asked to "aliviate" the pressure on him is a clear proof that HE KNOWS HE DID SOMETHING WRONG. Mad respect for every female player who is refusing to play until there is justice.
@@notedjog9haha, what a funny guy you are. man, you have all my homies laughing. Anyways, you'd better get back to your homework. Your parents probably work very hard for you to have the best life you can so don't take it for granted little buddy
Can you truly, with official numbers, confirm “mostly men”? Or are you just being sexist and adding to the problem? PS: I’m a male and I’m not defending him.
@@carlc4564 well, to be fair to them. The only presenters I've seen covering for him are men. When he announced that he wouldn't be stepping down I literally only saw men applaud. In these comment sections there are people with usernames with male names who defend him. Note that they said it's mostly men that are defending him, they didn't say most men. It's an observation, not a statistic. I wouldn't call that sexist as it doesn't generalise men, it doesn't say it's exclusively men, and it doesn't degrade men.
In college, some guy that wanted to go out with me decided to do the exact same thing. He asked if I liked him, I thought he meant in a platonic way since we were friends and said yes, and he essentially licked my face trying to force a French kiss onto me. While he didn’t grab my head, he pressed his hands against my back to push me into him in order to try to get a better kiss. We aren’t friends anymore. I KNOW how it feels to have some creep force a gross, sloppy kiss on you. I washed my face twice a day for a week afterwards and felt completely unsafe around men for a long time. It’s not just about the unsolicited kiss; it’s about the trauma behind it as well. Jennifer’s definitely having a hard time right now because she must be feeling just as I did: Unsafe and violated. I hope things get better for her...
I’m sorry that disgusting creep did that to you. It feels so disgusting when a person violates you. The good thing is, most guys I’ve met haven’t done that to me. But the ones that do, make you feel terrified and disgusted.
I dealt with a similar situation when I was 13. He was my boyfriend at the time, but the farthest we had done was cuddle. We were cuddling on the couch watching a movie when he whispers in my ear, lingering his hands on me. "I don't want to take advantage of you," he said, very creepily. Well, at the time, he wasn't touching me inappropriately, so I said, "you're not?" He took that as an opportunity to immediately start groping my chest. All I could do was sit there. And needless to mention the countless times he had kissed me after I told him no and tried to touch my crotch after I was very explicit with being uncomfortable with it. I said I didn't want him to touch me and he did it anyway.
I'm sorry you had to go through that - at least it's very relieving to see that there aren't any victim blaming replies to this comment, unlike most others. Yet. : ( Edit: not for long >:(
I'm so sorry to hear that...😓 Mine isn't as serious, it was a confession and even though I said no and ran in, he followed me to my room and try was laughing and giggling. I was laughing but in a VERY uncomfortable way and I was about to cry I tried getting away from him and sad no and even got a hanger as a defense weapon to put some space between us. We were living in the same neighborhood and I think of him as a friend at first, but after that he creeped me out so much I got traumatized with boys and never see him again. I was lucky I ran out and my grandma returned and I pretended nothing happened but it made me lose my appetite for 2-3 days. Also, he was 14 and I was 11! It was the most scariest day of my life. It is a bit blurry now but he definitely tried to pin me trying to stop me from going away and backing away from him. NO..IS NO AND HE TRIED GETTING PHYSICAL
It was hardly ruined. She knows him well, and, but for the media influencing her to repudiate his advances, I could see them dating. You need to calm down.
It is insane how this man treats women like objects and how he thinks everything he does is valid. These women clearly are in danger and we need to fix that.
@kingdoingstuff people on here can read minds. They see a short and know everything. It's fcking insane how intelligent people are on youtube. They know when I'm going to take a sh't next, mind blowing intelligence.
What he did is obviously horrible but to extrapolate it to "these women clearly are in danger" is the sort of crap that his defenders laugh at his detractors about. Yes he's a creep, yes he's probably a narcissist based on his response, but he kissed a player at the height of emotions on live TV. He's outed himself. It's not like he's prowling around the women's changing rooms looking for Spanish players to SA.
This situation is super bizarre, yesterday Rubiales' mother went on a hunger strike to protest against those who attack her son, stupidity runs in the family
This is so unbelievably disgusting. How could anyone treat a woman like this, let alone do this to an award winner athlete on national TV. How depraved do you need to be?
@@wkeezz yeah because in a situation where a woman was sexually harrassed it's more important to find a situation where it was the other way around to demonstrate women are as bad as men. bruh.
