This is just Sad. 

This situation is so embarrassing for the pokemon community. It's hard to believe all parties involved are adults, thanks for chiming in with a voice of reason JLuv!

Rattle Pokémon just triggers me really. I’ve got no problem with calling out those who should be, but this is a clear example of him going way too far and constantly being negative. You’d think you would do some research before calling out someone for a lack of research…

It's hilarious to see Rattle getting rattled haha.....also he is like a really annoying hall monitor, asking for everyone's passes and receipts 😂 🤣 🙄

People keep saying Ross is immature for threatening legal action, but honestly he is in the right to do so. Rattle's videos are slander. Additionally, Rattle's latest video is an hour and a half of just mocking the poor guy (which isn't illegal, but certainly shows what kind of person he is)

Wossy over Rattle any day 💪💪💪 This was a bad move on Rattle’s part 😅

Rattle should be ashamed for how hes gone about this entire thing.

I use to be really good friends with Rattle back when I first joined E4, he was one of the first to welcome me. Really sad to see someone that you use to talk to everyday spiral down into what is essentially the Keemstar of Pokemon cards.

Over the last couple of months I've left Rattle comments letting him know he's begun letting his "power" get to his head. He ignores them. Dude became a bully.

It seems like 2023 has been the year for Pokemon Card drama, whether it's stolen products or doing something like this for some clicks and views. Can we all just chill out for a minute? It's hard to keep track at times with new drama coming out every week like an episode of Love Island 😂

Ross is great pls nobody hate on ross

Rattles brand is to call out bad actors. The only problem is that for his channel to be sustainable, he needs content, even if there is no evidence in favor of wrongdoing.

Couldn’t agree more. This is the reason I stopped reacting to drama. Stuff is getting out of hand. I understand journalistic reporting, but when it’s your full time gig to use drama to get views we need to draw a line

Rattle did the same thing when the UK middleman grading service GradedGem closed down. He made a video claiming GradedGem was not paying for peoples submissions that had gone missing through courier, however he did not do his research and turned out the person who denied the compensation from GradedGem was overvaluating his cards by a mile.

Rattle is getting a little over himself recently

I’ve noticed that Rattle - who often investigates truly real-life bad actors in the Pokémon community - has become so jaded that he seems to see only bad intentions from even good community members like Ross from PTCGRADIO. I’ve also noticed that Wossy often goes out of his way to to see the good in most people and situations. Polar opposites, eh? My support goes wholeheartedly to Wossy! Cheers to both okJLUV and Wossy‼️

Drama in Pokémon? No..... this can't be? And I completely agree honestly. I don't feel like anyone is at fault except for the odd situation. I don't feel like anyone should be blaming each other for something thats not even in their full grasp of knowledge. I like both rattle and wossy 🤝 this drama doesn't change my mind about any of them

Great video Brother!! Ross is respected on RU-vid and Pokémon fans for all the updates on cards and when they will be available. You are respected to JLUV for your content and telling us facts about cards too Brother!

This was a very weird situation for sure

It's incredibly sad. I couldn't believe Rattle did this video to dear Ross. Worse still he couldn't man up, just double down on toxic behaviour. He continued to denigrate respected members of the community in his "apology" video. Which wasn't an apology. I like Rattle. I am really saddened to see this side of him. Hopefully he can reflect on his behaviour and make things right with a REAL apology. It was shocking behaviour.

Very unfortunate, thanks for covering

okjluv, you should be a “Pokétuber Counselor” with all this drama going on 😂👊🏼

Rattle is a perfect name for him... he's a snake. Can't stand that guy... gett'n off on creating drama through conspiracy theories. Nobody can convince me that Ross is anything other than genuine and just loves Pokemon (art, hobby, collecting, and playing). You just have to follow ptcgradio for a short time to figure that out. Love ya wossy!

Have been watching Ross for so long and haven't EVER sensed any malice from him, sucks to see grown adults stoop to lows like this 🙃

The thing about accusations from Rattle is that you can destroy someones entire channel and reputation from something small. Rattle needs to take accountability for this.. And Rattle's follow up video was just pure mocking. It's awful

I was one of the people that sent him the proof emails from Pokémon and he still made a whole video being a child about it using some of the stuff I sent. It really is very annoying. I hope Ross can do something about it.

I've always liked the honesty of rattle , but in this he goes to far. Everyone loves PTCG , shame this happened..

I don't need to watch rattles video to know it's BS; Ross is definitely one of the kindest, most well intentioned and trustworthy names in this space. It sucks that anyone would try to take him down, and it sucks even worse that regardless of what happens next, it's going to have a impact for PTCG radio. Thank you for making this video❤

It seems like most drama channels in and out of the Pokémon community REALLLY want to be the “coffee zilla” of their niche but they don’t go through 1/10th of the work that coffee does. There’s a reason he takes 1-3+ months to make a video: he RESEARCHES and TALKS to people. Rattle and opossum and some smaller pokedrama channels make great content but some mistakes and oversights due to pumping out content like an aspiring tiktok star discredit the helpful content. Everyone - ESPECIALY Those who call people out - needs to slow down and take proper due diligence.

rattle just treated this whole situation very poorly. its pretty disappointing how unprofessionally he handled this and as someone who enjoys rattles content, the video me lose some respect for him for sure

I like you all and I’m subscribed too all of you as well hopefully this all can be resolved in the end and rattle can be a little cold but that’s why I like him so it kinda is what it is at this point for me I like you for some similar reasons because you’re not afraid too say what’s on your mind either it’s a little goofy having all this turn out like this it’s very unfortunate that this drama is over staff cards but I’m not going to take any particular side of anyone but I will continue to watch all of the channels and hopefully this is just a small speed bump for everyone and they can all eventually get over everything that happened and just move on and create amazing content everyone’s content is drastically different and I’m here for every single second of it! 💯

Rattle has always been a joke.

The organizer at my local LGS mentioned during the last pre-release last weekend that his missing staff promos are supposedly on the way and he heard that from a very reliable source through Pokémon. I don’t have any way to verify it besides the fact that he’s been doing it for 15+ years. I think he would know for sure.

Rattle must be really desperate for this. What a clown

My favorite part of the video is "...not because I dislike Rattle (I dislike Rattle)...."

The problem is that some cards get stolen and even graded early, some get put in the stores early and the staff cards situation is abused; spoiling it for those who wait until the release date.

Pokémon Card Commentary community is batting 1000 this week I see 😐

Better call saul 😮

Level headed take. Also, I like ur set up 😮😊

Bro your such a stand up guy would love to have you on my side any day!!!!!

I bought a set of S&V staff promos off of a judge. I saw Rattle's video and I was surprised that he said that.

Love Ross, I love his channel, too.

I have not watched Ross before. I will starting watching his videos, looks like he is educational to the pokemon community. This day is age everyone has doubts. So proof is always needed. With the digital world it's easy to change manipulate certain things to hurt and benefits others. You made some good points. I feel if there are 10,000 people that watched Rattles first video of what happened they will watch the next one also to make sure they are in the know of what's going on. I do get what you mean it's like a company that has a unhappy customer and writes a bad review or says something bad it will start with that one person who has two friends see it then passes it to four other people and get bigger each time. I don't think Ross will lose followers or subs because of this. Reason for the fan base he built and has know him for so long will support him. I think it will take a lot more then what happened with one video will hurt him. That's just my thought. You see people that got famous for what ever reason and they either got to greedy or caught really doing something wrong for them to fall off the surface and are forgotten. End of the day I feel both are good creators in their own way and have a fan base for that reason. One of the many things that many forget in life is what one person may have the right to others have no right at all. Which is opinions. Some places in the world don't have that at all which is sad. So people that are able to have opinions should not be looked bad on for having one. This is a bump in the road both are experiencing and it will brush over.

drama in local communities are great cause are irl, are fun and you see the true character of ppl, but doing this over the internet is a 🤡 situation

Wossy is solid af I never heard of rattle until he did that robbery video but anyway screw him ptcgradio is legit and does a very good job of informing the community he does a very good job indeed and is a very lovely person

Wonder why he didnt just reach out to Ross before putting his foot in his mouth?? Thanks for your perspective!

See ya at card party Julian!

Are they really missing when they all wind up on ebay anyway? Staff obviously doesn't get paid enough. Haha

Great response to this JLuv

I do believe Rattle was reaching but I also believe Ross should not be reacting the way he has with the “defamation”, demanding the video be taken down, the back and forth ect. Ross should just provide the facts, prove that Rattle is wrong and move on. This happens in any space not just Pokémon. The problem is Ross reacting this way gives the people who are doing wrong in Pokémon a chance to gang up on Rattle to try to discredit him so they can get away with what they’re doing. Unfortunately people jump on drama like this for all the wrong reasons and for their personal benefit. Rattle is a necessary evil in this space and we all know it. I will continue being a fan of both Rattle and Ross. And always a fan of yours jluv!

Honestly, I haven’t heard of Rattle before this whole mess, but the way he has handled the situation paints him as a very negative individual. His snarky and sarcastic attitude is off-putting. He tries to act like the hero of the community, but in my eyes, he is quickly becoming the villain.

I am definitely not picking any side here however I’m not into game play or mechanics of the game so although I watch rossy his content isn’t my niche and that’s fine ! He seems like a kind guy I like rattle to although i was kicked out his discord from some jealous mod for showing off my collection I don’t think they liked that very much guess it was to much bragging 😂 ? Idk what the deal was in there ? That being said I’m neutral here

Rattle is such a tool man, everytime I watch his content I cringe because he just speculates and tries to create controversy and issues lol He's like that nerd at school that constantly rats people out to teachers for his own enjoyment.

Well said.

I don’t think Ross is a liar can’t believe rattle pulled this crap

Sanity prevails. Amen.

Man why does everyone have to be so crazy?

this dropped in the middle of rattles 80min follow up, its interesting to see the different dynamics of poketubers (you), even when not so positive. spoiler avoidance put me on a ross pause, mby i should go back

DONT EVER MAKE A HATE VIDEO ON ROSS!!! I love that and so do 127k+ people. This man doesn’t deserve to be in ANY type of controversy. You mess with him…you mess w/ all of us! Ps….Jluv is a great man…none of this is towards him…he’s just reporting in the controversy.

I watch your content, PTCGO Radio’s, and RattlePokemon’s. You guys all have unique, interesting takes on different topics across the Pokémon community. That being said, it’s always a bit of good fun to stir the RU-vid turd. Enjoy the views and subs, but I hope it’s a hatchet that can ultimately be buried. That being said, stolen or illegally obtained Staff Promo’s are bs and it needs to be policed (short or calling in Pinkertons lol)

Ross the absolute legend

4:54 Russells Brand lol

Wow you got in there quickly huh! This one will be interesting, I hope rattle can make a good apology cuz I don't think the guy takes criticism well and he just needs to take the L on this one. I don't have a twitter so by the time I saw the tweets wossy had taken his down, but word of mouth is not proof the promos are legit - we have seen the stolen promos being graded so I agree that ross should've given proof that they weren't stolen initially. Either way I have no clue why "crybaby celio" was ever typed, sounds like needless lashing out. I do not like ross' youtube channel, its just pokebeach and him hyping cards/products, but ross at least is a good commentator and such a cheerful person I couldnt see him knowingly pumping stolen goods. Also I think your content might be closer to rattles than you realise, I mean outside of busted there's a lot of drama videos around here lately. I guess you could say you arent as harsh when you make a video on someone. Also what is with tpci shipping out these promos to eu then? They can't even ship us prize packs? We have to do one a month and even then one of my locals has run out??? How can they find time to ship us staff promos but no damn prize packs what? Edit: he made a video but by god its an hour and a half & looks snarky

Time to set up a PokeTuber boxing match!

Rattle's a grown ass man that wears shirts of young anime women and fatansizes about asians. Hopefully he doesn't make a trip to Southeast Asia in his 50s!

I am not gonna take anyone's side. I am just gonna enjoy completing my Tinkatink cards lol.

I just can’t respect someone who threatens litigation tho but I still love both creators

that's funny cause Ross beat me up at ocic and gave me a wedgie then stole my deck but he was nice about it so

Rattle is annoying and negative

You should really put an intro so we don't miss the beginning of your speech.

PTCGRadio always seemed like such a nice genuine guy too. It’s good people defended him the way they did. Good video as usual JLuv, always love how transparent you are brother

Rattle and Opossum bud. These two are Big Brained. They can probably find Tu Pacs killer with their big brained powers.😂😂😂

Ill steal your cards bozo

What about the stolen cgc cards they showed and still no proof of legitimate distribution they showed off that PSA turned away. Also how is it rattles fault half the people have watched his second video chances are some of those people didn't agree and didn't return to his videos it happens with all content

Rattle got so much traction from the Logan Paul thing but has been scraping the bottom of the barrel for another big expose ever since. His videos are a total bore.

I'll be clear again that I once watched and followed Rattle until certain contents he created i did not agree with and I blocked any rattle's contents in my feed. At least okj is trying to describe the issue and pointing how disappointing someone can go for views and likes. But any followers of a creator will try to be loyal until others have left them or seeing the content does not suit them. Knowing Ratlle would only create similar or worse vids to be legit isn't enough for me to go back and watch anymore. And even if ptcgradio or maxmoe or okj or opossum were to do some discusting vid like Rattle or worse, I wouldn't hesitate to block them off too(not gonna happen, these are my favs in the YT pokemon community and are too entertaining in my daily life to drop them, my opinion).

Rattle always thinks he’s right especially when he’s making shit up. The Fusion Strike bit he did made me unsub. I honestly believe that hits were definitely stolen out of a certain print run. You can’t compare a recent print run where hits are pulled to a random old run where hits were stolen. He couldn’t disprove the fact that black code card packs where people pulled nothing in sets like Evolving Skies (I had a few of those myself). For him to go off on Ross is desperate as fuck. 30 minutes of jibber jabber smh

Bro I always knew rattle was boof af. That man’s content is just him complaining ab everything.

Great video

I just think the whole of Pokémon community is drama. That’s why i stay away as much from this toxic behaviour and just enjoy Pokémon my own.

Pokemon cards are great. Pokedrama is hilarious. None of us really care about a playground tiff between content creators.

Damn I i dislike rattle did that. Sometimes I click the ptcg channel to hear him say his intro

Rattle is a disgrace, most of all to himself and second to the hobby. I don't care much for ptcg but we all know he has been at it for a long time. I would never think to question him despite not caring for his content. Rattle is an instigator and desperate for attention. I feel bad that he doesn't understand the whole premise of his channel revolved around honesty and integrity and now it's all gone. I hope he can actually be a man and apologize for real, until then I don't think he should have any support

Who cares about Rattle and what he has to say?

ROSS IS GOD.

I've noticed all the tit for tat videos going around and it's so stupid. Like how embarrassing these are the guys that are speaking for our pokemon community. Every single one of them is doing it for views, nothing else, they could all care less about the pokemon community. This is just an easy community to get along with so why not make money off us thinking we like you. they just wanna monetize off each other fighting.

We’ll said

Guilty before proven innocent? I thought rattle was all about obeying the law. I will admit, I do watch his videos, and recently I just been feeling like he’s been reaching hard as if there’s a lack of actual shitheads to make content about.

Saw both videos and the follow-up he just did. Both individuals are cringe, especially in the DMs. Anytime you throw the lawsuit/Lawyer card, you look foolish and goofball. As stated, all this could have been avoidable if a DM was send.

Yeah rattle is douche. I remember that video he made saying that parents are teaching their kids that stolen cards is ok when oeople get card early. There was no evidence that the kids have any idea about how the parents get the cards. He just reaches and thinks hes some kind of wise guy.

.Only time i ever disagreed with Ross was during the pokemon go showing up in astral packs. Other than that all his content is bangers. While rattle bring alot of informative content ill also say he gives alot of useless content as well

Well rattle apology vid aint even an apology it was a literal waste of time xd, just go to 1 hour 23 minutes and u can tell why that video is worthless and digs him a deeper hole.

Love things more specialer

the 3 part, 3 hr video about the Base Set case was a sign to never watch his videos lmao, thank god I don't watch any of his mundane vids

Getting boosters before release? It must be stolen!!! Outrageous! Getting Staff promos beofre release? It can't be stolen because it's Wossy!!! xD Yeah good arguments there. Also it doesn't necessary means Wossy stole it, but he might've bought it/was given from someone who stole it.

“I’m tired of drama” so let me make a video fueling the drama lol

This is dumb. Ptcg believed one thing with his sources. Rattle believed one thing with his (lack of, at that time) sources. As far as I’m aware, Rattle believed one thing before receiving the information/receipts from people that he goes through in the follow-up video. I think what should be emphasized is that everyone should be watching these two men with a grain of salt. I’ve watched other RU-vidrs who does thorough research but sometimes even they miss a few things. It’s not that deep and projecting this “his side, her side” thing is childish. No one should be exempt from criticism and I say this for both rattle and ptcg.

Looks like Rattle’s views were getting low and he resorted to desperate measures 😂

So tired of all this drama from grown adults in a community that collects shiny cardboard, good night this is just sad 🤦‍♂️ I side with Julian & Ross btw 👍

Rattle literally makes his living off of speculation and no research. Sometimes he gets it right but a lot of time she blows things way out of proportion and makes it seem like he is just searching for something to get mad about.

I’m not a fan of Rattle he has made gains on RU-vid by trying to take down others