This is so disrespectful and it needs a name 

As a goalie I can confirm it feels 10x worse. The mask has space on the front but is tight on the sides and back so there’s very little dampening in comparison

@@macgregorallin6974 They should design masks differently and make it so that it absorbs impacts and doesn't bounce the puck into goal or make a rule where goals like that don't count.

Especially that jaw shot. That shit HURTS. Maybe not THAT shot but can have the capabilities.

Make the mask protect better cause there is nothing wrong with that move.

Goalie here…back of the mask basically no protection…the mask is designed and angeled for straight on shots, but shots like that on a side angle all the energy will go to the head instead of defect off…I’ve never had this happen to me but I can imagine it might hurt (but also maybe change strategy of staying up while pucks in corner)

Billy Smith and Ron Hextall would approve.

Not at all. In fact, the right move. We need more goalies that won't take bs. Also a goalie, but sweet jebus, D/enforcers need to put this on the list of "if you do, you earn fists"

This is something from video games that seeped into the game. Definitely disrespecting the goalie. They have always gotten upset when players shoot pucks at their mask.

There are definitely some players out there who could use taller crotches, so absolutely, ring the tinkerbells.

@@jsb2372 brother i've heard video games get blamed for a lot but i think thats a bit of a stretch

I didn't really realize you had little armor in the back. I like the back and in, or calf n in shot myself, as a non-goalie. But now that you say that I'll think twice.

​@@jonathanallard2128shoot anywhere in a game bro. Our joints are (mostly) protected but a goalie looking the wrong way then bitching is a goalie that needs to retire

Since you're a goalie, let me ask you... do you think those goals should be disallowed?

Ask your mom for a hug, or play soccer.

@@RedRisottohe’s not complaining lil bro 😂

reminds me of the arcade game NHL Open Ice 2 vs 2, get in the zone power slapshot to the goalies mask haha rebound in the empty net.

Whoever came up with that is down bad. It doesn’t even make sense.

@@oliverquach9614you seem fun.

@@oliverquach9614 You must have no idea what it means, it makes perfect sense and it's hilarious. Ask your girl. From her previous relationships she could probably explain really well.

@@daltondrouillard9308OHH SHIT 😭

Skully is good, definitely my favourite

Surely better, that FACIAL, lol

thats a good one

So.. you're not wearing a neck protector or Dangler? I always wear both. Never understood why anyone doesn't. That's your life you're playing with.

@@josefmacleodExhibit A: see Clint Malarchuk.

@@josefmacleod heightens awareness... you play better with your life on the line *sarcasm but probably true as well*

Also the rubber smell! It's a concern, but a bank shot isn't usually that hard. It'd sting or leave a hicky but not too life threatening. I took a hard wrist shot from the faceoff dot when my dangler broke. Thankfully it hit inside shoulder pad first but deflected into my neck and stayed there spinning and grinding away. It left some tread marks in the top spot and 1 long mark at the bottom where it settled.

"You hear a ding sound for like 10 min after using the bucket." DUDE, if you're hearing ringing for a long time after, you need to get a new mask and see a doctor, those might be serious concussions happening.

I get the idea with this name, but the weird thing is that these types of goals wouldn't happen against Cheevers, because goalies of that era would not use the technique that today's goalies use. Instead, they'd stay on their feet and hug the post, leaving no room for this kind of shot. Goalies today do what they call the RVH in those situations to be able to defend against plays to the front or to the opposite side of the net.

Figures it was Florida doing it in this vid

@@JH22533 jack hughes cough cough Also it lundell hit his shoulder

@@Mason-14p Hughes is irrelevant this season. Florida is always doing crap that could easily injure opponents.

​@@JH22533 no they are not. They just play rough hockey and some teams can't take it

goodbye wrap around goals

@@kohl4life Behind the goal line, outside the trapezoid, is the corners. Wrap around goals would still work because the player comes in tight (within the trapezoid) or out and wide (past the goal line) before shooting, both of which scenarios would bypass this rule and mitigate the target being the goalie's mask.

@@keldera some wrap around goals are scored from behind the net tho

​@@kohl4lifeI think you misread the initial comment. He said allow goals only within the trapezoid, aka behind the net, and not the corners. This wouldn't affect wraparounds at all

Yeah no, there is no unwritten rule about shooting for rebounds off the mask.

Yeah, great idea. Fight the other team for scoring on you. That'll sure teach them to think twice next time they decide to play hockey better than you!

​@@MarshmallowEclipse it's one thing to treat it like those "it's rude to score more when you're already up by a lot" unwritten rules and it's another when it's "I'm going to intentionally target and hurt your teammates head for a competitive advantage" unwritten rules, which is one of those that makes the game safer for both teams. That sort of rule being broken is not "you're better than me", it is "you're more ruthless and care less about the well being of other players than me" and that deserves hands.

​@@MarshmallowEclipsemissed the point by a mile

@@colmecolwag While I do sympathize with that to an extent, I also can't shake the feeling that there's more to it than intent to injure. If you can successfully score by shooting against the head, and it's more effective than doing something else, then you'd be a dumb player not to take advantage of that. If there's too high a risk of injury, then maybe a rule change needs to be made. Like, no intentional headshots or something. Accidental headshots happen now and then, but it's similar to like you can't deliberately kick the puck into the net with your skate. Sometimes the puck bounces off the skate and there's no clear "kicking motion" but that's legal because it wasn't done purposefully.

@@colmecolwag There's no rule being broken though and why would you pass on an opportunity to score a goal if you see one?

Also, your fellow players should pull a Clark Gillies them as well…

“The Billy Smith Experience” - my new band name. 😂

Or the Hex, then it doesn't need to be the offender, it could be anyone on that team that comes within range

Then maybe you should be a better goalie and you won't get scored on when someone ricochets a puck off your face. If you want to fight every time someone scores on you, then get good.

@@MarshmallowEclipse who ever said I got scored on mallow boy😂😂

They are both headshots in a way

lol I knew someone would say something like that@@kesler171717

All my years of playing I never took one to the gonads but did some splits that made them bounce off the asphalt ( Brooklyn Roller Hockey ) 🏒

the shots down below hurt in a way that is almost difficult to understand. the pain would travel into my body and go into what felt like my tailbone, my stomach, sometimes even my teeth would tingle....all those headshots just glanced right off my helmet. i had an early 90s JOFA player helmet and it would take any slapper no problem. when i went to my first goalie helmet ('97 era Itech) the dome shots would cause my ears to ring so badly I couldn't hear anything for 10-20 seconds. I'm glad they improved goalie masks and was able to play with new ones (2000s) that didn't have that problem. I didn't take any off the lower regions after that so I have no comparison anymore, but man the cup shots were almost debilitating when I got hit as a bantam/midget/High Schooler and i even had a goalie cup @@Richard-od7yd

For real. A purpose made goalie cup is practically a brick wall for the balls-all but the absolute hardest and most direct shots you barley even feel. Mask shots though, always feel those.

yup, the leafs need a little bit of Wendel Clark in their game right about now.

Malarchuk injury happened on March 22nd 1989… the Sens 1st season was in 1992! 😂

@@sylvainguenette9828 I KNEW when I wrote that I should have fact-checked my feeble memory. I modified my original comment. I'll let that sit for a few days, then I'll probably delete the whole thing, because who could let that floater hang out there for all eternity....

I’d say it’s low enough percentage it won’t force goalies to change much. Maybe hug post with helmet or abandon paddle down during RVH on the blocker side

we are not talking about slapper from no angle but yes in some instance it might hurt the goalie 100%

@@mikescorpio13 they'll either have to redesign goalie mask to better absorb from the sides and back or not allow it

😂

Super underrated

Bedard has 20 his first year and missed 6 weeks. Lol

And he’s doing it with the jackets. I can’t wait to see where they trade him too. I know the head office will give him up for a pick in 2 years

@@TomLopez17 I'll have whatever you're smoking my guy

You mean casinos. There are no gambling gods. The house always wins

Sure, goalie coaches are going to teach people to let in an extra 200 goals just to stop 1 of these bank shots...

I agree, we are seeing so many goals from down near the goal line (unthinkable in the past) because shooters know that spot is open without even looking. I'll take the open back door play over people scoring from below the hash mark anyday!

I think you'll just see them actually sealing the posts like they're supposed to instead of being lazy.

Glue helmets. The puck just sticks to it if you try it 😂.

@@nitePhyyre This. 😂😂

There is something they can do about it, but that probably won't happen until goals from this angle of deliberately banking it off there head are more frequent than actual shots on goal from the front area of the net or goalies start getting injured a lot from these shots, even if its just a wrist/snap shot (still would hurt) which may also result in the players group fighting more often due to targeting the goalies head. I feel the solution would, and I'd hate to see it, be that you can only take shots between the blue line and the icing line which prevents that angle that targets the goalies head. As for the mention about normal shots being targeted shots at the head you will never be able to tell that because its a random shot. They do there best to target certain spots for there shots, but they can't prevent the outcome of the shot. Which is why they call any normal shot an accident if its hits there head. A player can deflect the puck into the goalies mask, the goalie himself can move into the path of the shot or the player can mess up his release and accidently send it at the goalies mask. I don't think players intentionally shoot at the mask of goalies as was mentioned in the video, but the shots from behind the net to bank it off there mask is an intentional face shot which could end up being dangerous.

Absolutely spot on agree 100% with this take. Also, "doink shot" is kinda catchy that'd be my pick for a name

well they can specifically ban shots released from behind the goal line thats first point of contact is the goalies mask.

⁠@@jtobin1985I think that would be a pretty reasonable limit. Shot from behind the goal line, first contact is goalies head, not allowed. Anything else goes. But otherwise, I pretty much agree with the original comment. Your suggestion *might* be a feasible way of reducing risk, once this becomes a daily thing that is.

As a distinct kicking motion negates a goal, a shot directly off the mask could be disallowed. Any other body part, then mask, good goal. Gotta keep players safe, man.

Your coach was an asshole.

That rule was rescinded partially. IIHF I think is more stop play after the scoring chance is over.

Fair game? Remove the trapezoid to allow goalies play more. Then it's fair.

W

and get scored on low or on a wrap around

True. In a way this is one of the natural consequences of all goaies adopting the butterfly style. Same way that the Michigan goals wouldnt work unless the goalie butterflies.

@@CreepBoot Well God forbid they should try to put one past the goalie

@@rogiemac I don't understand

@@CreepBoot you said they get scored on low if they stand up...but they may get scored on high if they butterfly. Cant let the goalies cover the whole 6x4

Sure they won't bank it off the mask. They'll just put it directly into the completely open net. And Brodeur wasn't stand up.

@Disturbed420420 Crazy because the rules have changed. Goalie can't leave the trapezoid. When goalies get too good, the NHL wants to nerf them. They don't care about good goalies. They just want more goals.