This Secret Grigri Hack that only Mountain Guides Know! 

I'm glad you are alive! NEVER GIVE NOVICE CLIMBERS GRIGRIS

@@dannyCOTW thanks man.. Yeh for sure haha

@@FLOOPC Glad, you made it to see another day man. Couldn't imagine.. That must've been terrifying. I've had a couple friends take ground falls from that height because of an improper belay, and hearing their recollections of it make me shiver. Thank you for the heads up, because I wouldn't of foresaw this sort of mistake happening as a result of adding something like this. I've been climbing for a long time, and I'm usually pretty good about double checking that we're both clipped and tied in safely, but I'd be lying if I said I hadn't ever left the belay without a care in the world lol. Giving things just a quick glance... or in some cases, no check at all. How are you doing now? Are you returning to climbing?

@@mohawkman9 thanks mate, I'm doing good, you're bang on, slowly back to my old tricks with a bit of light climbing and caving, definitely got some ptsd to work through as I find myself getting to the top of climbs now and not being able to let go, just climbing down instead 😂 also doing SRT activities I find myself struggling to get over edges now, I find myself straight back where I was at my accident and can hear the gear slapping the wall, the rope whizzing passed and a black hole opens in my chest, even watching certain climbing shit on TV does it. Time on ropes will fix that i guess. Whole body has suffered from the accident unfortunately, so I feel like half the man I was, but training back up to health now that I'm able to a few things, I just have to pay for it the next day 😂, I get constant pain in my back where the break is but it's dealable with most days with painkillers. Can definitely recommend NOT doing this to yourself! 😂 And yeah 100% complacency kills.. We get too comfortable and forget to double check things, I know I do triple checks on everything now and I still feel gross. But thanks a lot for your reply as if this message reaches even 1 person I feel better about it as I wouldnt wish this happening to anyone, don't get me wrong this trick is great and I still use it, just stay vigilant!

Damn bro that sucks man. I hope u get well soon

That’s even better. When potentially working over people I use dedicated lanyards to do that for tools. Anything that’s not tied in will fall eventually.

Agreed. I always put it right in their belay loop

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Did you get your grigri back?

@@Grethko free booty 🏴‍☠️

@@Grethko Haha free booty for me! Luckly it was a low-angle belay station and came to rest on a ledge about 15 feet below me. I just loosened my clove hitch and grabbed it. Made sure it wasn't broken and waited to tell my wife about the whole thing until we made it all the way to the top 🤣

easy solution: use a belay device that is better suited for multipitch climbing ;)

That's gonna get verbose at the belay when you swap each piece of gear.

yes

Of course man

Petzl states that doing this mod voids the warranty & releases them from liability. It’s a common sense mod & necessary if you’re using it for solo lead climbing to rig it to a neck tension loop though. It would be nice if they would just add it as a feature.

they should, but they will not. It's the grigri conspiracy, they want you to drop it so you can buy another one!

ありがとうございます!

You can do that, tether might be alittle longer and more annoying. Thing the drill hole looks cleaner

Some people do and also try to tether the pin as well. But like you said that would separate the plates

Grigri is standard for guiding, especially for belaying from above (bringing up a second)

Me too.

I use it on every multipitch and carry a tube device as well for rappelling. The extra weight doesn't make a difference, honestly. The friction for top belaying with a Grigri is so much better than with a tube device that it's totally worth it! Plus if you need to lower the person a bit, that's much easier, as is setting up a 3:1 haul if you need to get your follower past a hard section. I also just feel safer belaying with and being belayed with a Grigri. It's nice having that insurance in case the belayer gets hit with rockfall or something

It’s about a million times safer and easier to belay with

@@Grethko i Thought this is not recommended because the camming action can get blocked by the rockface

Some ppl loop the pin.

You may be able to sling the pin

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Guess you could find a way to fix a pocket clip some cheap ballpoint pens have to the handle of a spoon... so it at least wouldn´t slip out of your pocket/ bag.

Smaller the better. It’s not suppose to be load bearing just catch a fall. If something was to catch on the loop you would prob want it to break off. I can try to get the exact dimension of that hole if your really interested.

@@BetaClimbers no stress

You can also do that. But it maybe spread that plates apart a little. Maybe in that case if you where found to be spreading the plates you would still be found in fault. But just for argument sake if you did have an accident it wouldn’t be because of the string unless you found a way to loop the tether around the break to some how hold it down. I tried to do that and found it very difficult.

Oh you mean near the pin? Yeah that is also somthing ppl do but the tether needs to longer and might get tangled and be annoying because of the length. But it also can be done good point.

Of course le little hole Won't break thé grigri ^^ but the insurance would take evrything to not help you ! And yes i think i was talking about the pin! Thank you =)

Good tip! I did a video on that actually 😂

@@BetaClimbers I think every climber, should know A bunch of other knots, to include arborist knots. Like the Blakes hitch and others.

@@BetaClimbers and I mentioned the Blakes hitch specifically, because what if you drop your carabiner as well. In a pinch, you can do it with the tail end of the rope that you’re climbing on.

@@BetaClimbers I say this because when I first learned how to climb in the early 70s belay devices were not exactly widespread. And I learned climbing, from people who have never had one before. Not that I am that old of a man, but a lot of skills are being lost.

@@NoName-OG1 I hear you loud and clear thats the stuff I like to cover!

What's "englature?"

Lol 😂 yeah hopefully that’s stays on the harness

Use what you're comfortable with. Screwgate isn't wrong either.

Belay-ception

Lmao get a load of this guy

Agree. ATC. You can rappel a single rope doubled and pull your rope. A grigri is useless in that situation.

@@pentachronic actually you can do that with a grigri too, with the ‘Biner block’ method you can abseil on a single strand and still retrieve your rope.

@@theinsiders-climbingtv5645 Fair comment. I still feel a grigri is more of a binary rappel device. It seems to open too quickly. An ATC is easier to control and it has more utility (ATC Guide to be more accurate). ATC guide doesn't bog down with grime like a grigri does.

How in the world did you find your way here?

@@rokronroff ummmm I think one of his climbing fails video's got recommended to me after I was watching another channel "howNOTtohighline" and he was doing break tests on some climbing bolts

Thanks I’ll fix that now

Strange…it works for me 🤔

Worked fine for me too, even though on my computer I'm already a member, still accepted the invite via browser

@@BetaClimbers If i go the Discord first and then use the link it works! Strange that clicking the link itself doesn't. Anyway nice vid, sweet little trick!

@@AndyBizzzle maybe my discord wanted to update first :/

Knock on wood. Lol same here though, I just never fully take it off and if I do I’m death gripping it. 😂 I Bought a phone case with a tether on it because dropping that freaks me out.

@@BetaClimbers ...I need a phone tether....

@@Sublime_visions #climbingselfies

@@Sublime_visions I just have elastic cord tied to my pants, and use a mooring hitch around the phone's popsocket

@@eyescreamcake that's a really good idea :D thank you 👍

HARD disagree. If you mess up or get hit with a rock, your climber is dead without a grigri. We never climb without it

@@gooz0mbie grigris can’t handle twin ropes unless I’m mistaken. Most of my multipitch routes and alpine routes require 2x 50m ropes. I’d love the safety features of the grigri, but I also love the simplicity of a guide plate.

You can use a mammut smart Alpine🤷‍♂️

@@alpinekiwi that’s fair

Why?

Lol yeah I’ll admit it’s a bit of a clickbaity title 😂 🤙🏻 but still, it’s a pretty good tip.

@@BetaClimbers It is 100% a great tip. I won’t take away from the fact it is a great piece of info I teach to anyone I bring up in the sport.